"A black sheriff?!": The Official Topic of Obama and New Era American Politics

[Oblivion]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2012/you-decide/who-won-final-presidential-debate

[Steve Youngblood]

It's a shock that he won in Aught Eight with this skeleton in his closet.

[Joe Molotov]

Trump is dropping a "bombshell" tomorrow. Twitter suggests it'll be on Michelle allegedly filing for divorce in 2000; a fringe anti-Obama book earlier this year had the same charge

My favorite blogosphere guess is:

—Secret Service agents rarely call 'traveling' on POTUS during White House pickup games. 

[Great Rumbler]

Trump is dropping a "bombshell" tomorrow. Twitter suggests it'll be on Michelle allegedly filing for divorce in 2000; a fringe anti-Obama book earlier this year had the same charge

GOP "bombshells" recently have been pretty pathetic, so that would hardly be a surprise.

[TakingBackSunday]

PD you magnificent bastard

dude is rolling

[Barry Egan]

here's the link to tonight's presidential debate.  You guys didn't forget, did you? 

[Phoenix Dark]

here's the link to tonight's presidential debate.  You guys didn't forget, did you? 

I'm sure Himu will be watching attentively, given how serious he is on civil liberties and drug laws

[Mandark]

What data you need specifically?

I think I remember an awesome graph from about 1980 onward showing income for top earners vs. median middle class income?  Something like that. 

Basically, someone is asserting that "all economic indicators" lead one to the assumption that trickle down economics does, in fact, work for everybody.

It's honestly probably a waste of my time but I'd like to see the figures anyway and my google fu has sucked

Cumulative percent change in income before tax starting in 1980:

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Cumulative percent change in income after taxes starting in 1979:

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Cumulative percent change in the share of national income since 1979:

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Bar graphs comparing percent change in income for ~30 years after 1979 with the ~30 years before 1979:

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[Human Snorenado]

*splooges*

thank you based mandark!

[Barry Egan]

If you're missing the debate right now, you are missing the best damn impression of Foghorn Leghorn you've ever heard in your life. 

[Great Rumbler]

Cumulative percent change in income before tax starting in 1980:

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Cumulative percent change in income after taxes starting in 1979:

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Cumulative percent change in the share of national income since 1979:

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Bar graphs comparing percent change in income for ~30 years after 1979 with the ~30 years before 1979:

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Depressing.

[Phoenix Dark]

Years later, Mandark remains the one indispensable googler

[Joe Molotov]

Years later, Mandark remains the one indispensable googler

He's one of the Top 1% of Googlers.

[Human Snorenado]

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/mourdock-god-work-rape-leads-pregnancy-17549526#.UIdhGIZrip2

Well then.

[Dickie Dee]

Years later, Mandark remains the one indispensable googler

Indeed Michelle

[Great Rumbler]

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/mourdock-god-work-rape-leads-pregnancy-17549526#.UIdhGIZrip2

Well then.

Look, if you're GOP, just don't talk about rape. EVER.

[Phoenix Dark]

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/mourdock-god-work-rape-leads-pregnancy-17549526#.UIdhGIZrip2

Well then.

To make it more hilarious, his democrat opponent co-sponsored the forcible rape bill in the house. Yeah....fuck em both

[Yeti]

Obama meeting Mitt Romney's grandson. 

[Phoenix Dark]

for fellow Cohen friends on facebook...what the FUCK @ that guy commenting on his EU post 

i'm done, don't want to cause a scene

[Human Snorenado]

I knew who it was before I clicked on it. 

If you really want to get him going, start talking about Israel.

[Mandark]

for fellow Cohen friends on facebook...what the FUCK @ that guy commenting on his EU post 

i'm done, don't want to cause a scene

Same guy who said Israel's "Palestine problem" was solved by building a wall.  I admire/am terrified by his certitude.

[Phoenix Dark]

ohhhh I remember now. That Palestine stuff was just a few months ago iirc

wow

[Himu]

Trump is dropping a "bombshell" tomorrow. Twitter suggests it'll be on Michelle allegedly filing for divorce in 2000; a fringe anti-Obama book earlier this year had the same charge

oh god, we wouldn't want the presidency to be tainted by the ruination of marriages sanctity.

next thing you know, you'll tell me that obama puts it in michelle's pooper.

how can the american people vote for such a man?

[Himu]

You start electing people who have anal sex into office, and soon you get a gay man in office. then a transsexual. then a muslim. then an atheist. barack obama has ruined everything america stands for: successful marriages and vaginal intercourse. With that one decision he alters the course of this nation's future. I want no part in it.

[Atramental]

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Obama meeting Mitt Romney's grandson. 

"When you get to college your grandad is going to be a mere footnote in your history 101 book."

[Oblivion]

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Obama bowing to Mitt Romney's grandson. 

Fixed.

[Phoenix Dark]

I've heard that lowering yourself to a kid's eye level makes them feel good or something. Too bad most children are assholes and don't deserve me hurting my back to talk to them

[Human Snorenado]

I've heard that lowering yourself to a kid's eye level makes them feel good or something. Too bad most children are assholes and don't deserve me hurting my back to talk to them

kids

No coincidence they're just one letter off from aids

[Himu]

Triumph, what are you doing? You trying to scare Beezy away from being a father?

[Joe Molotov]

[Himu]

I haven't watched the third party debate, yet. But I will be voting after I do. Since I live in Tejas, I can vote now.

[Phoenix Dark]

Donald Trump

[Great Rumbler]

Donald Trump

[Howard Alan Treesong]

more of a bomba-shell

[Great Rumbler]

Yes, we have very serious questions. Like "What grade did Obama get in Calculus 101?" and "Did he list 'Communist' under Race on his college application?"

[Joe Molotov]

Trump will donate the money, then file for bankruptcy again.

[Steve Contra]

We need a sitcom at this point called "That's My GOP!" about an aging southern senator and his team of speechwriters (one of which is his granddaughter).  Every week he'll get get caught ding something stupid like say forgetting he released a racist newsletter, or saying something untowards to rape victims (I anticipate this will be about 50% of the episodes).  Every week his opponent, a short haired female former "softball player" will look like she has the race in her hands, but the episode will end with him giving another half-assed apology cooked up by his granddaughter, and no lessons will be learned, and each episode will end with him sticking his foot in his mouth again, to the laughter of everyone.  His catchphrase will be "this isn't San Francisco young lady" whenever one of his young speechwriters suggests something that would have been edgy in the 1960s.

[Steve Contra]

Maybe Mandark or PD can answer this, but what is it about Rasmussen's statistical modeling that skews it's results towards the 'pubs?  I could look it up elsewhere, but this is the more interesting option.

[Phoenix Dark]

Maybe Mandark or PD can answer this, but what is it about Rasmussen's statistical modeling that skews it's results towards the 'pubs?  I could look it up elsewhere, but this is the more interesting option.

Ras polls are nearly 100% focused on land lines (meaning they don't sample cell users), which heavily leans toward whiter and older voters. They also tend to under sample black and Hispanic turnout. But to be fair, Ras' final November polls tend to be accurate outside of 2010, when he over-estimated republican turnout

If Obama wins this election it'll be mainly because OFA got a shit ton of unlikely and new voters to the polls, be it through early voting or absentee etc.

[Human Snorenado]

Rasmussen basically plays a shell game every election (except in 2010 like PD noted) where he oversamples Republicans, then a couple weeks closer to the election somehow magically his results start to get more in line with the average.  This way he can always say after the fact, "Hey, were ended up in the margin of error for the final result!"

[Himu]

Researching the Tejas ballot and damn, I like her.

http://www.michelepetty.com/issues

Look at her compare herself to Nathan Hecht. Goddamn, fire. You go girl.

[Himu]

[Mr. Gundam]

PD plays eleventy dimensional chess. Tread carefully.

Kudos, PD.  You're doing a brilliant job over there.

[Himu]

Hmmm...

Went with:

President - Jill Stein (G)
US Senator - Paul Sadler (D)
Railroad Commissioner - Chris Kennedy (G)
Justice, Supreme Court, Place 2 - no one
Justice, Supreme Court, Place 4 - Charles E. Waterbury (G)
Justice, Supreme Court, Place 5 - Michele Pety (D)
Presiding Judge, Court of Appeals - Keith Hampton (D)
Judge, Court of Criminal Appeals, Place 7 - Barbara Hervey (R)
Judge, Court of Criminal Appeals, Place 8 - Elsa Alcala (R)

[Steve Contra]

Rasmussen basically plays a shell game every election (except in 2010 like PD noted) where he oversamples Republicans, then a couple weeks closer to the election somehow magically his results start to get more in line with the average.  This way he can always say after the fact, "Hey, were ended up in the margin of error for the final result!"

I figured this was the case.  I'm also guessing he is somehow aligned with the right?

[ToxicAdam]

My festering misogny causes too much inner turmoil and prevents me from voting for Jill Stein, that's why I'm going for Rocky.

Now I know how Democrats from West Virginia feel.

[Himu]

Rocky isn't bad, actually.

[Human Snorenado]

I've liked Rocky Anderson for a number of years.  I voted for Obama today, though.  The only 3rd party candidate on the NC ballot was Gary Johnson and I don't vote for Libertarians, plus there's still the off chance my vote may matter.  Romney probably wins the state, though.

[Phoenix Dark]

I've liked Rocky Anderson for a number of years.  I voted for Obama today, though.  The only 3rd party candidate on the NC ballot was Gary Johnson and I don't vote for Libertarians, plus there's still the off chance my vote may matter.  Romney probably wins the state, though.

Was there a line?

[Human Snorenado]

Yeah.  I went during lunch, though.  I had to wait for maybe 30ish minutes or so before I voted.  Line was mostly old people who I could tell were obviously voting Republican, due to how many took "a list of conservative judges" from one of the ladies handing out sample ballots and shit.  I had a fun moment when I first got there; a candidate for one of the judge positions was actually there trying to get votes.  She was a Republican and had worked as a prosecutor for like 15 years or something.  I asked her if she agreed with mandatory minimum sentencing; she said she was "100% for it" and I told her that I wasn't interested in voting for a rubber stamp but rather a judge.  She thanked me for my time and moved down the line.

[Himu]

When I voted today there was a huge line. Took me about 10-15 minutes to actually vote. Minorities came to vote today, fa sho.

[Himu]

Also, I'm curious what the ballots for other states look like because Texas' ballot always looks like a goddamn novel.

[TakingBackSunday]

My absentee ballot from Ohio 8.5 by like 36 inchs.  They folded it 4 or 5 times to fit it in the envelope.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

I just found out I can vote for Roseanne Barr for president in CA. Since Obama's gonna win the state handily, maybe I should take a chance on the Peace and Love candidate.

[Mupepe]

I wish I lived in a swing state where my presidential vote mattered.  Oh well.  Voting for Jill Stein.

[TakingBackSunday]

It's pretty great that I'm still considered an Ohio resident.  This will be the last time I'll be able to swing that though.  Then it's on to being a worthless TN voter.

[Himu]

Well, Mups. Tejas will probably be a swing state in 10 years. At the very least, if Stein reaches 5% of the popular vote (and she is predicted to take 2-4% so ALMOST THERE) the Green Party will receive federal funding in the next general election. So your vote is hardly wasted and is its own contribution.

[Human Snorenado]

The 3rd party candidates ALWAYS poll higher than what they end up getting in the end.  No one is going to hit 5%, and I would be shocked if any of them got 2%.  If anyone does it will be Johnson.

[Himu]

Johnson is the one who has the biggest pull in terms of name power, it's true.

I'm shocked at how damn  ORGANIZED the libertarians are, btw. Must be that autism.

[Phoenix Dark]

Johnson will do decent in NM, and I'm sure Virgil Goode will steal votes from Romney in Virginia (he might even flip the state to Obama). But nationally no third party candidate will get 2-5% as some polls show.