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ToxicAdam · « **Reply #1620 on:** February 21, 2009, 12:09:06 AM »

mmm hmmm

Mandark · « **Reply #1621 on:** February 21, 2009, 12:12:59 AM »

I want you to know that even though I used text and not gifs, it's not cause I like Beardo more.

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #1622 on:** February 21, 2009, 12:24:54 AM »

Shoulda used that money to teach them to swim amirite?

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #1623 on:** February 21, 2009, 12:26:58 AM »

We were slightly overpaying for it before the great cleansing, now we are grossly overpaying for it.

Yet, Jindal is an asshole for being accountable and evaluating if they really need federal funds before they accept them.

Mandark · « **Reply #1624 on:** February 21, 2009, 12:32:56 AM »

Quote from: ToxicAdam on February 21, 2009, 12:26:58 AM

We were slightly overpaying for it before the great cleansing, now we are grossly overpaying for it.

Yet, Jindal is an asshole for being accountable and evaluating if they really need federal funds before they accept them.

Do you not see what you're doing?

You assume some sort of public choice theory motive behind Obama's actions, then turn around and assume Jindal's being an honest broker.

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #1625 on:** February 21, 2009, 12:36:38 AM »

I'm allowed to be a hypocrite, I'm a Republican.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #1626 on:** February 21, 2009, 12:38:21 AM »

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #1627 on:** February 21, 2009, 01:52:45 AM »

A minor note, but China is dumping steel into the market at an accelerated rate.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aD1iC4bZCUf8&refer=home

It wouldn't surprise me if other manufacturing sectors will experience the same thing during this year as China tries to maintain their double digit growth. Further causing more layoffs/shutdowns of manufacturers around the western world.

Hopefully it's a topic that Hillary brings up in China during her visit.

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #1628 on:** February 21, 2009, 02:34:30 AM »

According to one estimate, the US Government has lost 85 billion dollars in 4 months since TARP was enacted.

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/govt.s-tarp-losses-86.5b-since-october-2009-02-17.html

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #1629 on:** February 21, 2009, 12:40:21 PM »

Yesterday George Soros said the current situation is worse than the Great Depression and compared it to the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Good times...good times.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #1630 on:** February 21, 2009, 01:11:37 PM »

doom and gloom to sale his socialist agenda. smh obama, smh

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #1631 on:** February 21, 2009, 01:54:01 PM »

We need a Cultural Revolution type event to put the dumbshits of the finance industry of the past 20 years on public display. Also, add any member of the GOP who was a part of the Southern Strategy and any time sooner.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #1632 on:** February 21, 2009, 02:22:32 PM »

that's been soros' line since early 2008, even before the collapse of lehman bros. not saying he's wrong; just that he hasn't changed his verbiage.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #1633 on:** February 21, 2009, 02:41:55 PM »

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that's been soros' line since early 2008, even before the collapse of lehman bros. not saying he's wrong; just that he hasn't changed his verbiage.

The best way to predict the future is to create it

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #1634 on:** February 21, 2009, 02:44:19 PM »

http://www.larouchepac.com/news/2009/02/19/lpactv-we-must-act-rescue-obama-administration.html

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #1635 on:** February 21, 2009, 03:53:48 PM »

Quote from: T EXP on February 21, 2009, 01:54:01 PM

We need a Cultural Revolution type event to put the dumbshits of the finance industry of the past 20 years on public display.

I usually assume posters aren't serious when they make these kinds of comments, but I'm not sure with The Experiment, who I've put on my "might be crazy" list a while ago.

The Stanford prison experiment and the Milgram experiment demonstrate that normal individuals can be persuaded to do wrong when such behavior is institutionally supported. The bad behavior of the financial institutions wasn't just internally supported, but it was externally supported by the government. And any potential congnitive disonance was easy to relieve as the potential harm was more abstract and uncertain than in either the Milgram or Stanford experiments, where the pain inflicted was immediate and tangible. Hence, when certain behavior is supported and encouraged and the potential harm is uncertain, it's easy to see how individuals acted the way they did. It's far better to change the institutions than to go Mao crazy.

Eric P · « **Reply #1636 on:** February 21, 2009, 03:59:43 PM »

yes but you can't argue with the cathartic nature of a good cultural cleansing

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #1637 on:** February 21, 2009, 04:30:02 PM »

Malek, I've been pretty consistent in saying that the first thing that should have been done last September was to build a guillotine on the steps of the NYSE. And I'm dead serious.

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #1638 on:** February 21, 2009, 06:41:50 PM »

I'm sure this will supply us with quite a bit of debate:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/21/AR2009022100911_pf.html

Cheebs · « **Reply #1639 on:** February 21, 2009, 06:52:55 PM »

Quote from: siamesedreamer on February 21, 2009, 06:41:50 PM

I'm sure this will supply us with quite a bit of debate:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/21/AR2009022100911_pf.html

Stricter environmental policies, expansion of health care and a lot done to tackle the deficit? Sounds good.

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #1640 on:** February 21, 2009, 09:06:14 PM »

I'm going to wait until Rush tells me what to think before I respond.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #1641 on:** February 21, 2009, 09:11:59 PM »

Quote from: Washington Post

raising taxes

tells you everything you need to know about what Rush will tell you to think.

Mandark · « **Reply #1642 on:** February 23, 2009, 01:49:48 AM »

The White House is going to start including war costs and AMT fixes in its budget projections. It's slightly embarrassing how stoked I am to hear this.

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #1643 on:** February 23, 2009, 02:09:58 AM »

Can they make an amendment to make that permanent?

Tauntaun · « **Reply #1644 on:** February 23, 2009, 02:05:05 PM »

Quote from: Zero Hero on February 20, 2009, 09:34:45 PM

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DC Republicans are about as useless as thumbs on a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #1645 on:** February 23, 2009, 02:43:51 PM »

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Chuck Todd on why Chris Matthews ultimately didn't run for U.S. Senate from Pennsylvania: "Because [Chris] had a really good friend of his say to him, 'What are you going to do when you get there?' and he couldn't answer the question and he realized that, and that's why he didn't run. It was a childhood dream to be a senator, but he didn't know what he was going to do if he got there."

http://politicalwire.com/

This basically sums up Chris Matthews

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #1646 on:** February 23, 2009, 02:44:44 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on February 23, 2009, 02:43:51 PM

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Chuck Todd on why Chris Matthews ultimately didn't run for U.S. Senate from Pennsylvania: "Because [Chris] had a really good friend of his say to him, 'What are you going to do when you get there?' and he couldn't answer the question and he realized that, and that's why he didn't run. It was a childhood dream to be a senator, but he didn't know what he was going to do if he got there."
http://politicalwire.com/

This basically sums up Chris Matthews

Yet you love the guy, smh. Then again you love Forrest Gump...

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #1647 on:** February 23, 2009, 02:55:15 PM »

So how far below 7000 will the dow go this week?

Cheebs · « **Reply #1648 on:** February 23, 2009, 02:57:50 PM »

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on February 23, 2009, 02:55:15 PM

So how far below 7000 will the dow go this week?

the "state of the union" type of thing is tomorrow night, do those normally impact the market?

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #1649 on:** February 23, 2009, 04:07:19 PM »

I hope you guys like eating bread and waiting in line for the priviledge to do so.

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #1650 on:** February 23, 2009, 04:13:41 PM »

Quote from: siamesedreamer on February 23, 2009, 04:07:19 PM

I hope you guys like eating bread and waiting in line for the priviledge to do so.

I've eaten at Subway for years.

demi · « **Reply #1651 on:** February 23, 2009, 04:15:14 PM »

I love eating bread. I really like Hawaiian Bread.

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #1652 on:** February 23, 2009, 04:22:01 PM »

Hawaiian bread does kick ass. I would wait in line for that.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #1653 on:** February 23, 2009, 04:45:57 PM »

Mmmm... Hawaiian bread.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #1654 on:** February 23, 2009, 10:48:21 PM »

has anyone else ever had real hawaiian bread? like, not the kind you buy at the supermarket but the authentic pink-looking stuff? because it is ridiculously good and destroys the store-bought stuff. highly recommended

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #1655 on:** February 24, 2009, 02:34:22 AM »

Interesting, there are Jindal adds up on Youtube now, promising "a sneek peek" at his speech tomorrow.
http://www.bobbyjindal.com/sotu/?gcl...FQFvGgod8xFm1g

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #1656 on:** February 24, 2009, 08:01:37 AM »

Jindal is going to get smoked in the 2012 primaries...if Palin runs. In fact, if Palin runs, she will destroy the GOP, regardless of whether she comes out the winner or not. I expect all of these Republicans to fight dirty but given her 2008 tactics, when she could be President herself, she will be even worse. All the better for Obama I say.

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #1657 on:** February 24, 2009, 08:12:18 AM »

Everyone forgets about Romney.

Cheebs · « **Reply #1658 on:** February 24, 2009, 08:33:43 AM »

Quote from: ToxicAdam on February 24, 2009, 08:12:18 AM

Everyone forgets about Romney.

You think Romney will be the nominee?

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #1659 on:** February 24, 2009, 08:35:08 AM »

Yes. But I am terrible at predicting these things. I had Hillary and Guiliani winning back in 2006.

Cheebs · « **Reply #1660 on:** February 24, 2009, 08:43:27 AM »

Ignoring my political preference for a weak opponent Palin vs. Obama would by far be the most entertaining to watch. Jindal, while he gets a lot of hype is a really boring guy.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #1661 on:** February 24, 2009, 08:57:51 AM »

Quote from: ToxicAdam on February 24, 2009, 08:12:18 AM

Everyone forgets about Romney.

I dunno, everytime I see Mitt Romney all I hear in my head is "So what's it going to take to get you into this quality pre-owned automobile?"

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #1662 on:** February 24, 2009, 09:07:30 AM »

There is definitely something "too slick" about Romney that is off-putting. Maybe that's why Palin had such a dramatic response, because she is more accessible in some ways.

I still don't believe Palin is a credible lead candidate. She is Dan Quayle all over again. The 30 percenters will support her (in polls) because they always rally around people that are attacked by the media, but when it comes to actually vote .. they will find someone else that is more viable.

Cheebs · « **Reply #1663 on:** February 24, 2009, 09:20:50 AM »

Quote from: ToxicAdam on February 24, 2009, 09:07:30 AM

There is definitely something "too slick" about Romney that is off-putting. Maybe that's why Palin had such a dramatic response, because she is more accessible in some ways.

I still don't believe Palin is a credible lead candidate. She is Dan Quayle all over again. The 30 percenters will support her (in polls) because they always rally around people that are attacked by the media, but when it comes to actually vote .. they will find someone else that is more viable.

Romney would be the candidate they'd go for if they think logically about winning rather than their gut choice. It'd be like the 2004 dem primaries with Palin being Dean and Romney being Kerry.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #1664 on:** February 24, 2009, 09:24:07 AM »

The GOP's problem is that the religious nutbars have an exorbitant amount of power in the party, and ESPECIALLY in the primaries. Shit, look how long Huck hung around, and he wasn't really mean enough to capture the imagination of a lot of those yahoos. Every dimwitted, mean spirited PTA mom that sees themselves in Sarah Palin will be out there on primary day for her. You guys are screwed until at least 2016.

Cheebs · « **Reply #1665 on:** February 24, 2009, 09:32:13 AM »

Quote from: The Card Cheat on February 24, 2009, 09:24:07 AM

The GOP's problem is that the religious nutbars have an exorbitant amount of power in the party, and ESPECIALLY in the primaries. Shit, look how long Huck hung around, and he wasn't really mean enough to capture the imagination of a lot of those yahoos. Every dimwitted, mean spirited PTA mom that sees themselves in Sarah Palin will be out there on primary day for her. You guys are screwed until at least 2016.

Also seeing how there wont be a real democratic primary in 2012 I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of dems show up to vote palin. She motivates the dem base as much, if not more than the republican base.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #1666 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:02:36 AM »

Yeah, if there's still a competitive GOP primary by the time it gets to NC I plan on changing my registration back to unaffiliated so I can vote for the worst choice.

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #1667 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:30:09 AM »

I don't think Palin will make it past New Hampshire.

But, if she does somehow become the nominee, then I will switch my party affiliation to DEM and volunteer for the Obama re-election campaign.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #1668 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:41:52 AM »

Quote from: siamesedreamer on February 24, 2009, 10:30:09 AM

I don't think Palin will make it past New Hampshire.

But, if she does somehow become the nominee, then I will switch my party affiliation to DEM and volunteer for the Obama re-election campaign.

Remember, Iowa is first and Huckabee won there. They'll go gaga for Palin there. She'll probably lose to someone more reasonable in NH and maaaaaybe NV, but she'll win SC handily for sure. That's 2 out of the first 4, for sure.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #1669 on:** February 24, 2009, 11:00:29 AM »

Regardless, it's gonna be fun to watch the GOP divide up and implode during the primaries.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #1670 on:** February 24, 2009, 11:52:51 AM »

Romney is on the sidelines though. Active governors have been making noise by taking political stands they'll be harping on in the 2012 primaries. While Romney will be able to say he didn't support the stimulus, Jindal will be able to say he actually turned the money down.

If Romney wasn't such a flip flopping award mormon I'd definitely think he had a chance. I'm starting to agree with SD/Toxic that Palin is a fluke though. She'll win some primaries with the early buzz and swarm of female voters but I don't see the party letting her win. They were pretty practical last year in picking the republican with the best chance to win, I can't help but think they'll do that again in 2012 since this group of candidates lacks an undeniable leader

Mandark · « **Reply #1671 on:** February 24, 2009, 01:41:35 PM »

The upside for Romney is he doesn't have to be governor during 2G2D. None of the current governors will be able to run on records of balanced budgets, tax cuts, and sufficient public services.

Palin's an idiot, but so was Reagan. Given the right support and prep work, why not? The question is whether the people around her are too amateur-hour to build a network over the next three years.

If Sanford runs, it could help a moderate-ish candidate, counterintuitively. Everyone else could write off SC as a favorite son primary and skip it, making it less important to appeal to the Left Behind wing.

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #1672 on:** February 24, 2009, 03:08:01 PM »

Since when did having a record to run on matter?

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #1673 on:** February 24, 2009, 03:16:00 PM »

Can't wait to hear republicans over-reacting to Jindal's resonse, delcaring it world changing/better than any Obama speech

also
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/24/gop-governor-congressiona_n_169529.html

Utah elected this dude?

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #1674 on:** February 24, 2009, 03:19:11 PM »

I still believe that Palin is a sideshow, one that unfortunately got too far in the current distinguished mentally-challenged man-baby GOP, and being the headless corpse they are it's not surprising that someone of her ilk could rise to prominence. I still think that ultimately the party elders will cut her off at the knees come 2012 just because they don't yet want to drive those final nails into the GOP coffin. If she somehow manages to win though, I'm in it for the lulz.

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #1675 on:** February 24, 2009, 03:39:00 PM »

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House Democrats propose $410B spending bill
House bill to keep govt. running totals $410 billion, features thousands of pet projects
WASHINGTON (AP) -- House Democrats unveiled a $410 billion spending bill on Monday to keep the government running through the end of the fiscal year, setting up the second political struggle over federal funds in less than a month with Republicans.

The measure includes thousands of earmarks, the pet projects favored by lawmakers but often criticized by the public in opinion polls. There was no official total of the bill's earmarks, which accounted for at least $3.8 billion.

The legislation, which includes an increase of roughly 8 percent over spending in the last fiscal year, is expected to clear the House later in the week.

Democrats defended the spending increases, saying they were needed to make up for cuts enacted in recent years or proposed a year ago by then-President George W. Bush in health, education, energy and other programs.

Republicans countered that the spending in the bill far outpaced inflation, and amounted to much higher increases when combined with spending in the stimulus legislation that President Barack Obama signed last week. In a letter to top Democratic leaders, the GOP leadership called for a spending freeze, a step they said would point toward a "new standard of fiscal discipline."

Either way, the bill advanced less than one week after Obama signed the $787 billion economic stimulus bill that all Republicans in Congress opposed except for three moderate GOP senators.

Apart from spending, the legislation provides Democrats in Congress and Obama an opportunity to reverse Bush-era policy on selected issues.

It loosens restrictions on travel to Cuba, as well as the sale of food and medicine to the communist island-nation.

In another change, the legislation bans Mexican-licensed trucks from operating outside commercial zones along the border with the United States. The Teamsters Union, which supported Obama's election last year, hailed the move.

The Bush administration backed a pilot program to permit up to 500 trucks from 100 Mexican motor carriers access to U.S. roads.

The legislation covers programs for numerous Cabinet-level and other agencies, and takes the place of regular annual spending bills that did not pass last year as a result of a deadlock between the Bush administration and the Democratic-controlled Congress.

Congressional expenses are included. The bill provides $500,000 for what is described as a Senate "pilot program" that will defray the cost of mass mail postcards to households notifying them of a nearby town meeting to be attended by any senator.

I'm sure we will get weeks and weeks of media reports about how the Republicans are blocking the government from running.

Eric P · « **Reply #1676 on:** February 24, 2009, 03:40:28 PM »

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It loosens restrictions on travel to Cuba, as well as the sale of food and medicine to the communist island-nation.

GOOD

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #1677 on:** February 24, 2009, 03:45:33 PM »

"porkulus" seems like a far more accurate description of that bill than the stimulus

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #1678 on:** February 24, 2009, 03:49:07 PM »

hyuck hyuck

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #1679 on:** February 24, 2009, 03:52:33 PM »

[youtube=560,345]ocqIEAaPVok[/youtube]

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