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ToxicAdam · « **Reply #1680 on:** February 24, 2009, 03:55:07 PM »

Quote from: Eric P on February 24, 2009, 03:40:28 PM

GOOD

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil-for-Food_Programme#Abuse

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #1681 on:** February 24, 2009, 03:58:46 PM »

Quote from: ToxicAdam on February 24, 2009, 03:39:00 PM

House Democrats propose $410B spending bill
House bill to keep govt. running totals $410 billion, features thousands of pet projects

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #1682 on:** February 24, 2009, 04:02:53 PM »

FDR's only failure was he didn't SPEND ENOUGH!

/krugman

Eric P · « **Reply #1683 on:** February 24, 2009, 04:03:02 PM »

Quote from: ToxicAdam on February 24, 2009, 03:55:07 PM

Quote from: Eric P on February 24, 2009, 03:40:28 PM

GOOD

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil-for-Food_Programme#Abuse

here, you'll notice my confusion

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #1684 on:** February 24, 2009, 04:05:20 PM »

Just that food/supplies rarely gets into the hands of people that need it the most. They are usually horded by those in power or the most ardent supporters of the dictator.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #1685 on:** February 24, 2009, 04:06:54 PM »

Quote from: siamesedreamer on February 24, 2009, 03:58:46 PM

Quote from: ToxicAdam on February 24, 2009, 03:39:00 PM
House Democrats propose $410B spending bill
House bill to keep govt. running totals $410 billion, features thousands of pet projects

(Image removed from quote.)

And yet the Dems still haven't spent as much as Bush had in the past 8 years. Between the Iraq war and TARP, the dems have some more ground to cover.

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #1686 on:** February 24, 2009, 04:08:36 PM »

bububu Bush

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #1687 on:** February 24, 2009, 04:11:58 PM »

bububu OF COURSE we're going to bring up fucking Bush.

Eric P · « **Reply #1688 on:** February 24, 2009, 04:13:51 PM »

Quote from: ToxicAdam on February 24, 2009, 04:05:20 PM

Just that food/supplies rarely gets into the hands of people that need it the most. They are usually horded by those in power or the most ardent supporters of the dictator.

oh?

you think i cared about that?

nah, i just want travel restrictions to be lifted.

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #1689 on:** February 24, 2009, 04:19:22 PM »

Quote from: Zero Hero on February 24, 2009, 04:06:54 PM

And yet the Dems still haven't spent as much as Bush had in the past 8 years. Between the Iraq war and TARP, the dems have some more ground to cover.

They've only been in full control for a month and they've already passed a bill that costs more than the entire Iraq War. I doubt they'll have much trouble surpassing Bush's horrific record.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #1690 on:** February 24, 2009, 04:29:12 PM »

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #1691 on:** February 24, 2009, 04:31:31 PM »

I'm pretty sure the Iraq war has cost into the trillions ... (too lazy to look).

That's why Bush has been such a disaster for Republicans. They have zero ground to stand on when it comes to criticising spending. He has effectively killed them for decades to come. But .. they should still shine the light on things that are too expansive. It serves a purpose.

Fragamemnon · « **Reply #1692 on:** February 24, 2009, 04:39:19 PM »

I'm not sure the conservative criteria for opposing things should be ideological-"too expansive" if they are looking to regain relevancy.

I think they'd get far more mileage out of opposing things that are not effective. America doesn't want reagan style conservative ideology, it wants old school, pocket protector "but can it really work?" pragmatism. too bad they purged that from their ranks in the 90s.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #1693 on:** February 24, 2009, 04:45:05 PM »

Haha, dumbass Mike Pence (R-IN) was just on talking up a spending freeze. AGAIN. What tards.

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #1694 on:** February 24, 2009, 05:00:53 PM »

http://zfacts.com/p/447.html

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #1695 on:** February 24, 2009, 05:09:22 PM »

Speaking of which:

Quote

The United States plans to withdraw most of its troops from Iraq by August 2010, 19 months after President Barack Obama's inauguration, according to administration officials. The withdrawal plan would fulfill one of Obama's central campaign pledges, albeit a little more slowly than he promised. He said he would withdraw troops within 16 months, roughly one brigade a month from the time of his inauguration.

The officials said they expect Obama to make the announcement this week. They spoke on condition of anonymity because the plan has not been made public.

The U.S. military will leave behind a residual force, between 30,000 and 50,000 troops, to continue advising and training Iraqi security forces, the two officials said. Also staying beyond the 19 months will be intelligence and surveillance specialists and their equipment, including unmanned aircraft, they said.

<snip>

Congress has approved more than $657 billion so far for the Iraq war, according to a report last year from the Congressional Research Service.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090224/ap_on_go_pr_wh/iraq_withdrawal

Has to happen, but I really fear the aftermath.

Cheebs · « **Reply #1696 on:** February 24, 2009, 06:21:06 PM »

He had to pull troops out, it was one of the central issues he ran on. I think Iraq will be a lot calmer in the end after all the troops (well combat troops) leave than a lot predicted when railing against pull-out. In the end I bet this will be a rather non-issue.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #1697 on:** February 24, 2009, 06:25:50 PM »

Quote from: Cheebs on February 24, 2009, 06:21:06 PM

He had to pull troops out, it was one of the central issues he ran on. I think Iraq will be a lot calmer in the end after all the troops (well combat troops) leave than a lot predicted when railing against pull-out. In the end I bet this will be a rather non-issue.

Why?

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #1698 on:** February 24, 2009, 06:36:58 PM »

HUD secretary just said, and repeated, that the Obama White House is confident that the recession will be over by the end of 2009. There's no way he was supposed to say that, is there?

Cheebs · « **Reply #1699 on:** February 24, 2009, 06:47:45 PM »

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on February 24, 2009, 06:36:58 PM

HUD secretary just said, and repeated, that the Obama White House is confident that the recession will be over by the end of 2009. There's no way he was supposed to say that, is there?

It was Bernanke who said that, maybe he got confused. And Bernanke said that is on the condition that Obama's economic polices all work.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #1700 on:** February 24, 2009, 06:52:36 PM »

Quote from: Cheebs on February 24, 2009, 06:47:45 PM

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on February 24, 2009, 06:36:58 PM
HUD secretary just said, and repeated, that the Obama White House is confident that the recession will be over by the end of 2009. There's no way he was supposed to say that, is there?
It was Bernanke who said that, maybe he got confused. And Bernanke said that is on the condition that Obama's economic polices all work.

Bernanke said that with major caveats, and that is clearly not what I am talking about

Cheebs · « **Reply #1701 on:** February 24, 2009, 07:18:32 PM »

It would be odd if the WH said it any way. Obama has been going out of his way to be realistic (if not pessimistic) about the economy.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #1702 on:** February 24, 2009, 07:23:58 PM »

Hence, my post

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3719710/

I don't know how long they take to put up a transcript, but I guess it'll be up there tomorrow if it's not already headline news.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #1703 on:** February 24, 2009, 07:43:11 PM »

I don't think Iraq will be calm after the troops leave. There will either be continued ethnic cleansing or a Saddam-like dictator that rules the region with an iron fist.

Quote from: The Card Cheat on February 24, 2009, 04:45:05 PM

Haha, dumbass Mike Pence (R-IN) was just on talking up a spending freeze. AGAIN. What tards.

I think most Republicans these days are just looking to keep their seats. They no longer seem interested in actually doing anything other than unrealistic propositions that they know won't pass.

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #1704 on:** February 24, 2009, 07:53:03 PM »

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on February 24, 2009, 06:36:58 PM

HUD secretary just said, and repeated, that the Obama White House is confident that the recession will be over by the end of 2009. There's no way he was supposed to say that, is there?

I don't think that's really all that unrealistic at least on a technical level. But, Roubini has been saying that recovery will be so weak that it will still feel like were in it.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #1705 on:** February 24, 2009, 09:22:25 PM »

watching the speech SD? Did you hear Obama, once again, call out folks who bought homes they couldn't afford?

Cheebs · « **Reply #1706 on:** February 24, 2009, 09:28:42 PM »

Nobody messes with Joe

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #1707 on:** February 24, 2009, 09:36:36 PM »

Uncle Obama is gonna help you guys finance those new Hummers.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #1708 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:02:47 PM »

Quote from: Green Shinobi on February 24, 2009, 09:30:09 PM

So my uncle and grandfather (the staunch Republicans I mentioned in the election threads) are making comments in their emails like "so Obama's been in office a month and it's not looking good so far," or "sorry to say, but Obama is not inspiring confidence in the markets."

What do you guys think? I can't see how any of the continued downward spiral is Obama's fault, but it seems that Republicans (not the ones in Congress, but Republican voters) are already trying to spin it that way.

Of course they are. They won't change opinions like that EVER, no matter how well Obama does.

Fuck 'em.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #1709 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:12:33 PM »

So, if Bobby Jindal was smart he'd probably just go out and get a beer.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #1710 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:13:03 PM »

health care reform this year!

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #1711 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:13:34 PM »

Quote from: The Card Cheat on February 24, 2009, 10:12:33 PM

So, if Bobby Jindal was smart he'd probably just go out and get a beer.

yeah

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #1712 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:14:25 PM »

Home run out the park

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #1713 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:17:17 PM »

It was long, drawn out, and full of double speak. But, I thought the bast part was when he said dropping out of school was giving up on your country. I think that's where he can really make a huge impact.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #1714 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:18:29 PM »

Quote from: siamesedreamer on February 24, 2009, 10:17:17 PM

It was long, drawn out, and full of double speak. But, I thought the bast part was when he said dropping out of school was giving up on your country. I think that's where he can really make a huge impact.

*yawn*

Hitler Stole My Potato · « **Reply #1715 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:25:43 PM »

Uhhh...is anyone watching this Republican response? Who in hell is THIS guy?

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #1716 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:25:56 PM »

Jindal's awful.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #1717 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:26:11 PM »

Jindal sounds like a kindergarden teacher, what the fuck

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #1718 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:27:00 PM »

Well that about wraps it up for Jindal 2012.

I hope they keep sending more sacrificial lambs to Obama after every SotU. Next year is Sanford, 2011 is Pawlenty and 2012 will be Palin.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #1719 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:27:35 PM »

Let me tell you a story

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #1720 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:27:52 PM »

I feel like I'm about to get touched by this guy on the penis. He's fucking creepy.

Hitler Stole My Potato · « **Reply #1721 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:28:45 PM »

OMG, I cannot fucking believe the Republican party is putting this guy out there. I mean Jesus Christ, first Sarah Palin and now this. smh

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #1722 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:28:56 PM »

Y'all see him walking in? Pidgeon-toed and a suit that looked about three sizes too big.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #1723 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:29:46 PM »

Huh huh, he said "larded".

Cheebs · « **Reply #1724 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:29:57 PM »

Did Jindal claim we cant trust Obama to solve the economy cause govt. messed up Katrina? Whaaaat?

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #1725 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:30:22 PM »

edit: jesus, a volcano metaphor

A FUCKING VOLCANO METAPHOR

Cheebs · « **Reply #1726 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:31:50 PM »

If Jindal is the so called rising star to beat Obama in 2012 then.....

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #1727 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:32:36 PM »

Quote from: Cheebs on February 24, 2009, 10:31:50 PM

If Jindal is the so called rising star to beat Obama in 2012 then.....

He'd never survive the exorcism story anyway. SD, you guys should be grateful.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #1728 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:34:11 PM »

god, this guy is fucking pa kettle

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #1729 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:35:04 PM »

I never really liked him anyway. His stance on abortion is completely absurd (and I don't really even care about that issue). Plus those tax cuts he mentioned now have Lousyana deep in the red.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #1730 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:35:15 PM »

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #1731 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:35:42 PM »

Anyone who is 40+ but still looks like they're wearing their Dad's suit will never be president.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #1732 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:36:42 PM »

Not that I think he's the greatest, most progressive Senator ever or anything, but if you want an example of a kick ass SotU response, go back to Jim Webb in 2007.

[youtube=560,345]GjZ_pVR1mbk[/youtube]

[youtube=560,345]vpVgD2srqog[/youtube]

Cheebs · « **Reply #1733 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:37:15 PM »

Quote from: Mamacint on February 24, 2009, 10:35:42 PM

Anyone who is 40+ but still looks like they're wearing their Dad's suit will never be president.

He is in his mid 30's.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #1734 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:38:09 PM »

yeah jimm webb was incredible

Cheebs · « **Reply #1735 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:38:28 PM »

MSNBC are mocking jindal lol

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #1736 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:40:07 PM »

You know, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Jindal one of those Congressmen doing nothing about running up record deficits until 2007 or so?

Cheebs · « **Reply #1737 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:41:26 PM »

Quote from: The Card Cheat on February 24, 2009, 10:40:07 PM

You know, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Jindal one of those Congressmen doing nothing about running up record deficits until 2007 or so?

Yep, he was one of the GOP congressmen during the bush years who just voted along with what he wanted.

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #1738 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:43:19 PM »

Quote from: Cheebs on February 24, 2009, 10:37:15 PM

Quote from: Mamacint on February 24, 2009, 10:35:42 PM
Anyone who is 40+ but still looks like they're wearing their Dad's suit will never be president.
He is in his mid 30's.

I sometimes hate the web because you have to properly wiki every word of your post rather than throwing things out for natural discussion.

But fine. He's in his late 30s rather than his early 40s. Put an e-notch in your belt.

This doesn't negate him looking like a weirdo college republican.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #1739 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:44:13 PM »

chris matthews just said they outsourced the response to jindal

outsourced

lol

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