"A black sheriff?!": The Official Topic of Obama and New Era American Politics

[demi]

Nice body. I spent maybe 3 minutes looking for that gash. She must be wearing a thong or something

[Cheebs]

I just thought of of something, how has Obama not got any shit from the religious right about going to church? He has not belonged to a church nor a denomination since he quite the United Church of Christ back in May and does not seem to attend church in DC outside the inaugural traditional stuff. I would think the Right would flip out about that.

[demi]

[youtube=560,345]HVievy8bySA[/youtube]

Sorry, I just have to requote this. I made it 10 seconds without dying

[Brehvolution]

I just thought of of something, how has Obama not got any shit from the religious right about going to church? He has not belonged to a church nor a denomination since he quite the United Church of Christ back in May and does not seem to attend church in DC outside the inaugural traditional stuff. I would think the Right would flip out about that.

He prays once a day facing the east.

[Eric P]

dude's not even a good muslim

speaking of good muslims, has djinnfash finally been caught and imprisoned or is he doing finals or something?

[T234]

He said something about exams awhile back.

[brawndolicious]

Finally caught his speech on youtube. No mention of nuclear power, clean coal or oil refineries in his energy policy last night.  Thinking you can throw billions of dollars into the money pit that is solar/wind and that will magically improve their efficiency to match exisiting technologies is laughable.
It should be a 70/30 scenerio. Where the majority is spent on existing technologies that have already been proven viable and can help us in the next few decades .. then a smaller amount spent on the  research for renewables that will be used in the future.
Also, cap and trade? What a joke.

He does mention investment in clean coal but I agree that this speech was pretty meaningless.  Solar and wind are not realistic energy sources for the whole US power grid.  The only alternative that works is nuclear.  It's actually safer and cleaner than coal but I don't think that most Americans are willing to believe that.

[Brehvolution]

Things like Chernobyl and 3 mile island will haunt people for a half life.

[Ganhyun]

Things like Chernobyl and 3 mile island will haunt people for a half life.

lol, I seen what you did there.

[recursivelyenumerable]

I don't really get that cap-and-trade article:

All this only works as the carbon price lifts. As with 1924 Château Lafite or Damian Hirst's diamond skulls, scarcity and speculation create the value. If permits are cheap, and everyone has lots, the green incentive crashes into reverse. As recession slashes output, companies pile up permits they don't need and sell them on. The price falls, and anyone who wants to pollute can afford to do so. The result is a system that does nothing at all for climate change but a lot for the bottom lines of mega-polluters such as the steelmaker Corus: industrial assistance in camouflage.

How does it "crash into reverse"?  As far as I can see, at the very worst, the obligation to procure permits is neutral, there's no way it can actually be an incentive to pollute (non-polluters can still buy up permits and not use them, right?).  And the fact that permits become easier to acquire when the economy is slow (and harder when it's booming, right?) seems like a feature, not a bug.  Whether the overall permit supply is too large or too small is a separate issue.  Am I missing something?

Also, WTF are Republicans doing spreading FUD about the effectiveness of market solutions (to problems they don't even believe exist, so why should they care if a given solution is effective anyway?)

[siamesedreamer]

President Barack Obama wants a significant "down payment" for overhauling the health care system: $634 billion over 10 years. A senior administration official says Obama's budget calls for financing the overhaul by trimming Medicare spending and limiting tax deductions for upper-income earners. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the budget won't be released until Thursday.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090225/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama_budget

On the heels on the House passing the $410B bill today.

[Human Snorenado]

Again... what's your alternative?

[Eric P]

Again... what's your alternative?

Snark Based Economy

[Human Snorenado]

Again... what's your alternative?

Snark Based Economy

I take it more as a nervous hand wringing that all the might of the private industry will be drowned out by the big, bad evil govt.

sd, question for you- would you characterize it as problematic that 3/4 of all the wealth created from the recovery of the 2001-2002 recession went to the wealthiest?  Is it a bad thing that wages for average workers have stagnated since 1980, while CEO pay has increased from 40 times that of the average worker at their corporation to more than 500 times? 

Of course, in these troubling times, we HAVE TO CUT TAXES ON THE RICHEST!  And you wonder why Republicans are getting laughed at.

[siamesedreamer]

Pretty broad brush you're using there. You sound like the typical prepubescent GAFer.

Tax cuts are out the window. Forever. The NYT summed that up today.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/25/business/economy/25leonhardt.html?_r=2

I'm just wondering how long Obama will keep up the farce that he'll only raise taxes on the top 5%.

[Cheebs]

I'm just wondering how long Obama will keep up the farce that he'll only raise taxes on the top 5%.

He cut taxes in the stimulus package you realize, right?

[siamesedreamer]

I didn't. Thanks for telling me. How did I miss that?

[Van Cruncheon]

[Cheebs]

I didn't. Thanks for telling me. How did I miss that?

So he spent over 30% of the stimulus package cutting the taxes of those making under 250k....because he secretly plans to raise them?

[Phoenix Dark]

Cut defense spending
Overhaul health care

/dog meme

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Nuclear power is the future.  Clean coal makes me LOL in real life.

Wind power is possible but not at large amounts.  At the very best, it is a great supplementary power source to a more reliable source.  Which could be nuclear.

Just dump the waste in Alaska, Utah, or some other conservatard state.

[siamesedreamer]

So he spent over 30% of the stimulus package cutting the taxes of those making under 250k....because he secretly plans to raise them?

Come on dude. Quit playing dumb. Obviously I was talking further out. He is going to be president until at least Jan 20, 2013 last time I checked. Tomorrow he's going to unveil a budget that is mindbogglingly in the red. Those numbers remain mindbogglingly in the red thereafter (even with the administration's rose-colored assumptions). The government cannot maintain those deficits and a 4% increase only on the $250k+ers will not be enough. 

[Brehvolution]

You can't put a million piece puzzle together in a day.

You have to have long term goals to be successful at anything.

Maybe in a few years, you can look back to this point and say to yourself "Self, I'm better off today because of the things I've spoken ill of back then. Damn. I should have just let things play out and then bitched."

[Mandark]

Finally caught his speech on youtube. No mention of nuclear power, clean coal or oil refineries in his energy policy last night.  Thinking you can throw billions of dollars into the money pit that is solar/wind and that will magically improve their efficiency to match exisiting technologies is laughable.

Are you 'avin a larf?

[Dickie Dee]

Finally caught his speech on youtube. No mention of nuclear power, clean coal or oil refineries in his energy policy last night.  Thinking you can throw billions of dollars into the money pit that is solar/wind and that will magically improve their efficiency to match exisiting technologies is laughable.

Are you 'avin a larf?

Shuddup Mandark. Phrasing things in a certain way makes them true, durrr.

[Mandark]

Last time I was in West Virginia it seemed like all the billboards were for clean coal.  They really want to believe (or at least make everyone else believe) for obvious reasons.  Understandable reasons, at that.  But it's a pipe dream at this point, unproven at least as any of the mainstream renewables.

[siamesedreamer]

Budget = $1.75T deficit  ...

[ToxicAdam]

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/feb/19/device-to-make-coal-plants-cleaner-passes-tests/


look at me .. im larfin

[Human Snorenado]

Budget = $1.75T deficit  ...

Yeah, sorry it's so high.  The guy you voted for twice had this habit of ordering expensive shit and not putting it on the tab.

[siamesedreamer]

Two wrongs don't make a right and blame doesn't change the fact that all this debt we've incurred for the last 30 years or so is a disaster for this country.

MSNBC has the lowlights:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29392964/

[ToxicAdam]

Yeah, sorry it's so high.  The guy you voted for twice had this habit of ordering expensive shit and not putting it on the tab.

Weren't you the guy who would mock me every time I invoked Clinton when I defended Bush?

How the mighty have fallen.

[Eric P]

"The Jack McBrayer Response To The Internet Response To The Republican Response To The President's Address To Congress."

http://www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com/video/clips/the-jack-mcbrayer-response-to-the-internet-response-to-the-republican-response-to-the-presidents-address-to-congress/1040641/?dst=nbc|widget|NBC%20Video&__source=nbc|widget|NBC%20Video

[Human Snorenado]

Yeah, sorry it's so high.  The guy you voted for twice had this habit of ordering expensive shit and not putting it on the tab.

Weren't you the guy who would mock me every time I invoked Clinton when I defended Bush?

How the mighty have fallen.

Possibly.  What were you invoking, tho- the surpluses? 

[Beardo]

What's the website number for the government's recovery website? Which tube do I dial into?

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[siamesedreamer]

Obama talking about cutting "10s of millions" here and there when he's running a $1.75T deficit makes my head spin. Its worse than McCain.

...and not one mention of the total deficit number.

[Cheebs]

What's the website number for the government's recovery website? Which tube do I dial into?

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[close]

Yes because a man in his 60's should be an internet expert! Recovery.gov is there and full of tons of info.

[Cheebs]

And Obama has a fucking Macbook in the oval office, so making accusations of the administration not being internet savvy is a bit absurd.

[Van Cruncheon]

that makes me think LESS of obama

[ToxicAdam]

It's just like a Democrat. Overpaying for something solely based on public perception and self-image.

[Human Snorenado]

that makes me think LESS of obama

And here I thought you liked elitists.

[Van Cruncheon]

i like to think of the macbook as being more like reagan: gutless, overappreciated, and had its wife fucked by frank sinatra WAT

[Van Cruncheon]

that makes me think LESS of obama

And here I thought you liked elitists.

there's nothing elite about a macbook. now, a $5000 sager laptop running win7 beta...that's SCIENCE, my little jobsian friend

[siamesedreamer]

Instead of giving up something for Lent I've decided to do something everyday. So, the plan is to post something nice about Obama on EB once a day until Easter. Still working on today's comment.

[Human Snorenado]

Instead of giving up something for Lent I've decided to do something everyday. So, the plan is to post something nice about Obama on EB once a day until Easter. Still working on today's comment.

Oh god, that's easy.  He wants parents to be responsible for their children.  Fuck, I just gave you today's comment.

[Cheebs]

Obama is a macfag, sorry to break the news. He said be buys everyone in his family macbooks. 

[siamesedreamer]

So, the administration sees unemployment peaking at 8.1% this year.

Let's have a group laugh for that one.

[Human Snorenado]

9.1% is more realistic, to be honest.  And that might be wishful thinking.

It's kind of frustrating to see the Administration drag their heels on the banks.  I feel like we're going to keep throwing them money in a desperate attempt by Obama to prove that he's not a socialist and believes in the free market only to have to nationalize them in a year or two when that doesn't work.  In the interim, we'll probably have pissed away trillions of dollars on these idiot zombie banks.  smh.

[The Fake Shemp]

The stress test will show everyone we need to nationalize the banks.

[The Fake Shemp]

Unemployment will probably peak at 11%

[siamesedreamer]

Yeah, Krugman has been destroying the administration over the banks the last couple days.

[Human Snorenado]

The stress test will show everyone we need to nationalize the banks.

You know, I thought so too until the details started to leak out.  Apparently, they're so worried about offending the banks that they've been careful to emphasize that the stress tests aren't "pass or fail" per se, and that if a bank is found wanting apparently they have six months to get private capital injected, and if they don't THEN the govt. will inject more capital but won't nationalize.  Or "put the bank into receivership" so as not to offend the maniacs out there.  "Pre-privatization" is another fun phrase I've heard lately.

[Phoenix Dark]

The first Republican straw poll of the 2012 presidential campaign began this morning at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington, D.C.

Results will be announced Saturday afternoon at 4:30 p.m.

place yer bets

Romney
Jindal
Gingrich
Sanford

[Fragamemnon]

It's kind of frustrating to see the Administration drag their heels on the banks. 

It's Geithner/Summers calling the shots and it shows. They combine big banking buddiness with cowardice into a odious package. Paul Volcker, who was willing to fuck the economy to fix it in the early 1980s, seems to have lost the internal power struggle over how the zombie banks should be handled. Summers should have never been in the administration-his Harvard antics showed what a complete tool he is.

Geithner was the wrong pick for Treasury. Should have picked the FDIC chairwoman, who actually has some guts-she fucked over Citibank on the Wachovia deal, saving in the short term a lot of jobs and in the medium term preventing Citi from being the mother of all zombie banks, called out TARP for the Hanky Panky bullshit it was, and had no qualms about putting down IndyMac and Washington Mutual like the terminally ill dogs that they are.

[The Fake Shemp]

Geithner sucks.

[Phoenix Dark]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/25/tom-delay-slams-obamas-ad_n_170016.html

Delay 

[siamesedreamer]

Gingrich is the only one from that group who actually has ideas.

[TakingBackSunday]

Gingrich is the only one from that group who actually has ideas.

Gingrich is a piece of shit.

[Eric P]

Gingrich is the only one from that group who actually has ideas.

Gingrich is a piece of shit.

just because he tried to get his wife to do a Dirty Gonzales doesn't mean he's a piece of shit

[Cheebs]

The first Republican straw poll of the 2012 presidential campaign began this morning at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington, D.C.

Results will be announced Saturday afternoon at 4:30 p.m.

place yer bets

Romney
Jindal
Gingrich
Sanford

Romney is speaking at CPAC. He'll easily win.

[TakingBackSunday]

Gingrich is the only one from that group who actually has ideas.

Gingrich is a piece of shit.

just because he tried to get his wife to do a Dirty Gonzales doesn't mean he's a piece of shit

I thought it was a dirty sanchez