"A black sheriff?!": The Official Topic of Obama and New Era American Politics

[Van Cruncheon]

they don't have anything until society lets them have it, through social contracts

[Brehvolution]

Who does support them then?

Oh wait, hypochondriac conservatives. Point taken.

[FlameOfCallandor]

Yes clearly people who don't provide are entitled something by people who do. Of course when all the producers get up and leave who is going to be there to make society work?

[FlameOfCallandor]

Who does support them then?

This might be hard for liberals to understand but there are people in this world that support themselves. I know its an alien concept and one that might not be totally PC. but there are people who dont rely on entitlement checks or a handout and who dont rely on anything except their own ability to produce.

[Brehvolution]

Even though I'm able to produce, I take no harm in the fact that others who do benefit through my ability to produce. I'm indirectly helping the nation through the deductions in my paycheck

[Van Cruncheon]

society will always find someone to promote -- someone more amenable to their terms and values

those who disagree can kneel in the dirt when the revolution comes


and no, people can't support themselves alone. you have no rights but what society agrees to grant you. one man on an island has all the freedom in his world. when the second man arrives, he must compromise, bargain, and give up "freedoms".

[FlameOfCallandor]

Yes clearly people who don't provide are entitled something by people who do. Of course when all the producers get up and leave who is going to be there to make society work?

But FoC we can just make laws to force people to provide!

And if that doesnt work we can all work for the federal government they are always hiring.

[Human Snorenado]

Hey FoC, you're putting your money on Jim Cramer being correct about something, right?  RIGHT?

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The defense rests it's splooge all over your stupid, slack jawed face.

[FlameOfCallandor]

Even though I'm able to produce, I take no harm in the fact that others who don't benefit through my ability to produce. I'm indirectly helping the nation through the deductions in my paycheck

It's an extremely inefficient way to help people but hey to each his own.

[Van Cruncheon]

life is inefficient. ideological purity is for the weak and stupid. that is why capitalism is dying.

[FlameOfCallandor]

Hey FoC, you're putting your money on Jim Cramer being correct about something, right?  RIGHT?

I dont like cramer, i said it in my original post. I just thought that one comment was funny. I guess you missed that point.

[Dickie Dee]

Of course when all the producers get up and leave who is going to be there to make society work?

Of course, once they take their SUPER-ALLOY and go home, who'll be laughing then?  

[Human Snorenado]

Even though I'm able to produce, I take no harm in the fact that others who don't benefit through my ability to produce. I'm indirectly helping the nation through the deductions in my paycheck

It's an extremely inefficient way to help people but hey to each his own.

I think I've heard such talk before...

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."

GET THIS FUCKING COMMUNIST AND SHOOT HIS SOCIALIST ASS 

[FlameOfCallandor]

I think I've heard such talk before...

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."

Did obama give another speech tonight? 

[Van Cruncheon]

foc, tell us what it is like to be poor and uneducated, yet worship the rich

[FlameOfCallandor]

foc, tell us what it is like to be poor and uneducated, yet worship the rich

I only "worship" myself.

[recursivelyenumerable]

Yes clearly people who don't provide are entitled something by people who do. Of course when all the producers get up and leave who is going to be there to make society work?

But FoC we can just make laws to force people to provide!

And if that doesnt work we can all work for the federal government they are always hiring.

wow, I'm impressed by your self-sufficiency in conversation as in all things

I only "worship" myself.

nice euphemism lulz

[Van Cruncheon]

foc, tell us what it is like to be poor and uneducated, yet worship the rich

I only "worship" myself.

yet you contribute nothing the free market prefers

[Dickie Dee]

FoC worships a false god confirmed.

[FlameOfCallandor]

foc, tell us what it is like to be poor and uneducated, yet worship the rich

I only "worship" myself.

yet you contribute nothing the free market prefers

My paychecks disagree. But whatever you say.

[Human Snorenado]

foc, tell us what it is like to be poor and uneducated, yet worship the rich

I only "worship" myself.

yet you contribute nothing the free market prefers

My paychecks disagree. But whatever you say.

Paychecks, you say?  So you're working in servitude to another man?  You'll never be a prime mover if you keep this up.

[FlameOfCallandor]

Paychecks, you say?  So you're working in servitude to another man?  You'll never be a prime mover if you keep this up.

You guys aren't even trying anymore.

[Van Cruncheon]

foc, tell us what it is like to be poor and uneducated, yet worship the rich

I only "worship" myself.

yet you contribute nothing the free market prefers

My paychecks disagree. But whatever you say.

my paychecks are geometrically larger than yours; therefore, the free market has judged me geometrically more preferable and therefore geometrically more correct

[Van Cruncheon]

foc, tell us what it is like to be poor and uneducated, yet worship the rich

I only "worship" myself.

yet you contribute nothing the free market prefers

My paychecks disagree. But whatever you say.

Paychecks, you say?  So you're working in servitude to another man?  You'll never be a prime mover if you keep this up.

he is being coerced to give the fruits of his labor to another man, and paid welfare out of the kindness of the prime mover's heart. the only difference is that his owner isn't named "BIG GOVERNMENT"

[FlameOfCallandor]

he is being coerced to give the fruits of his labor to another man, and paid welfare out of the kindness of the prime mover's heart. the only difference is that his owner isn't named "BIG GOVERNMENT"

Yeah I'm being coerced to freely trade goods and services for mutual benefit.

[Van Cruncheon]

you could be making a lot more on your own without your master if you weren't looking for an easy handout

lazy leeches, sigh

[FlameOfCallandor]

you could be making a lot more on your own without your master if you weren't looking for an easy handout

lazy leeches, sigh

Seriously you guys arent even trying to troll anymore. This is just lazy.

[Barry Egan]

whether he's trying or not, you are getting severely skull fucked 

[FlameOfCallandor]

whether he's trying or not, you are getting severely skull fucked 

 

Right...

[Van Cruncheon]

if only you had a true entrepreneur's spirit, maybe you could produce a more scathing response

sadly, as in life, you're another mediocre welfare case dragging the elites down to your level

[FlameOfCallandor]

None of what you say makes any sense.

[siamesedreamer]

Even though I'm able to produce, I take no harm in the fact that others who do benefit through my ability to produce.

Fo' realz

[Human Snorenado]

None of what you say makes any sense.

For someone dumb enough to want to make movies based off of Ayn Rand's work, I honestly believe that.

[Barry Egan]

None of what you say makes any sense.

[FlameOfCallandor]

I should have known that suggesting that people actually work to provide and not be punished for it was too much to ask for liberals.

[FlameOfCallandor]

None of what you say makes any sense.

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[FlameOfCallandor]

 

[Van Cruncheon]

I should have known that suggesting that people actually work to provide and not be punished for it was too much to ask for liberals.

how DO people who make over $250K/yr survive the cruelties of coercive taxation

how i ask

wait, you wouldn't know

i'll tell you, then: it's pretty posh

[Human Snorenado]

Yeah, except instead of the masters of the universe mysteriously vanishing, they robbed everyone blind and set shit on fire on their way out the door.

[Crushed]

oh man what happens when the producers all leave?!

*this never happens because they rely on society and workers to make money, and they would all starve to death because they wouldn't have anything*

ANY DAY NOW!!!!

Yeah, except instead of the masters of the universe mysteriously vanishing, they robbed everyone blind and set shit on fire on their way out the door.

[FlameOfCallandor]

I should have known that suggesting that people actually work to provide and not be punished for it was too much to ask for liberals.

how DO people who make over $250K/yr survive the cruelties of coercive taxation

how i ask

wait, you wouldn't know

i'll tell you, then: it's pretty posh

I didnt ask how they survive, I asked for it to be justified.

[FlameOfCallandor]

oh man what happens when the producers all leave?!

*this never happens because they rely on society and workers to make money, and they would all starve to death because they wouldn't have anything*

ANY DAY NOW!!!!

Yeah, except instead of the masters of the universe mysteriously vanishing, they robbed everyone blind and set shit on fire on their way out the door.

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Hey, Im all for throwing the banker back into the fire. Obama is the one saving the rich banker in the comic. hmmmm..

[Mandark]

FoC:  You should "go John Galt" and leave the leeches of this message board to wither and fail in your absence, only to crawl back and beg for your return.

[Crushed]

I didnt ask how they survive, I asked for it to be justified.

"The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. A tax upon house-rents, therefore, would in general fall heaviest upon the rich; and in this sort of inequality there would not, perhaps, be anything very unreasonable. It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."
-Adam Smith, in Wealth of Nations, the book which created modern capitalism and free market economics

[Human Snorenado]

oh man what happens when the producers all leave?!

*this never happens because they rely on society and workers to make money, and they would all starve to death because they wouldn't have anything*

ANY DAY NOW!!!!

[siamesedreamer]

I really need to read Atlas Shrugged. Have no idea what the fuss is all about.

[FlameOfCallandor]

Whoever drew that comic didnt even read the book. Dagny worked happily in Galts gulch for 25 cents an hour.

[Mandark]

Ya know, the threat of a societal boycott by our economic betters would carry a lot more heft if there were historical examples besides a work of (awful) fiction.

Just saying.

[FlameOfCallandor]

Not only that it insinuates that Reardon didnt create his metel.

[FlameOfCallandor]

Ya know, the threat of a societal boycott by our economic betters would carry a lot more heft if there were historical examples besides a work of (awful) fiction.

Just saying.

Collapse of the soviet union isnt enough for you?

[Mandark]

wat?

[FlameOfCallandor]

God not only that but Dagny actually talks about how much she wants to cook for John Galt. God damn what a shitty comic.

[Human Snorenado]

God not only that but Dagny actually talks about how much she wants to cook for John Galt. God damn what a shitty comic.

Well, it can only be as good as it's source material.

[Mandark]

God not only that but Dagny actually talks about how much she wants to cook for John Galt.

Well that certainly sounds like a gripping tale.

[Barry Egan]

Ya know, the threat of a societal boycott by our economic betters would carry a lot more heft if there were historical examples besides a work of (awful) fiction.

Just saying.

Collapse of the soviet union isnt enough for you?

[FlameOfCallandor]

God not only that but Dagny actually talks about how much she wants to cook for John Galt. God damn what a shitty comic.

Well, it can only be as good as it's source material.

It would be like me making a comic about Moby dick 2 where they spend their days looking for McDonalds.

[Crushed]

Whoever drew that comic didnt even read the book. Dagny worked happily in Galts gulch for 25 cents an hour.

God not only that but Dagny actually talks about how much she wants to cook for John Galt. God damn what a shitty comic.

An Ayn Rand book... that's unrealistic!?  

[Mandark]

Who the hell is this Dagny loser?  Does Rand's political economy depend on female labor working at slave wages, in return for the marginal utility they find from playing house with their studly industrialist overlords?

  Dagny

  Elizabeth Bennet

[Dickie Dee]

So the worlds great industrial capitalist elites escape the evil "socialist" parasites only to establish a agricultural based actual-socialist kibbutz?

 

I wished I'd taken the time to find the unintentional humor in the book instead of just it's mind-numbing boringness.

[Van Cruncheon]

Ya know, the threat of a societal boycott by our economic betters would carry a lot more heft if there were historical examples besides a work of (awful) fiction.

Just saying.

Collapse of the soviet union isnt enough for you?

WAT PLUS