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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #2100 on: March 04, 2009, 01:09:40 AM »
luckily upon the capitalist restoration the producers were all inspired to return to Russia in time to save the day
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« Reply #2101 on: March 04, 2009, 01:13:26 AM »
the thing with capitalism is that if it fails you just weren't doing it right :smug
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« Reply #2102 on: March 04, 2009, 01:18:45 AM »
much like socialism and Service-Oriented Architecture :smug
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #2103 on: March 04, 2009, 01:25:43 AM »
God not only that but Dagny actually talks about how much she wants to cook for John Galt. God damn what a shitty comic.

It's sorta different when you don't have a stove-top or a frying pan or oil or a grocery store or shelter but whatever I'm sure she'll figure it all out in a jiff

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« Reply #2104 on: March 04, 2009, 01:30:50 AM »
much like socialism and Service-Oriented Architecture :smug

i am informed that socialism fails on account of it being fundamentally inefficient and flawed, sir :tophat

it's not like socialists have any incentive to try to get it right :smug


god, i'm better at this than foc

admittedly, that's like saying i run a better 40m dash than a thalidomide baby :gloomy
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #2105 on: March 04, 2009, 01:34:38 AM »
I'm sure that after she's made a shelter, skinned animals for their warm fur, foraged for seeds and berries and larger game, avoided deadly predators, and become the never ending sperm dumpster/baby assembly-line for the sake of her separatist nation's future, Dagny will be glad that she still has her liberty intact.  
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« Reply #2106 on: March 04, 2009, 01:36:20 AM »
Prole:  You could totally do a Cyrano de Bergerac with PD and get him on Fox News as a token black conservative pundit.

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« Reply #2107 on: March 04, 2009, 02:05:19 AM »
FoC worships a false god confirmed.
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #2108 on: March 04, 2009, 02:16:00 AM »
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #2109 on: March 04, 2009, 02:19:28 AM »
there is a heroic rape scene IIRC, or maybe that's Fountainhead
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« Reply #2110 on: March 04, 2009, 02:30:37 AM »
Ya know, the threat of a societal boycott by our economic betters would carry a lot more heft if there were historical examples besides a work of (awful) fiction.

Just saying.

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« Reply #2111 on: March 04, 2009, 08:43:35 AM »
I love it. Republicans continuing to implode:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19588.html

Party leaders are starting to realize Steele is a complete joke who has no idea waht he is doing and are regretting appointing him as RNC chair and thinking it will hurt them in their hopes at a comeback.  :lol

Hey, maybe we can get back to the awesome LBJ days when Democrats had 75 senators, getting more and more likely as the days go by.

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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #2112 on: March 04, 2009, 09:59:39 AM »
I love it. Republicans continuing to implode:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19588.html

Party leaders are starting to realize Steele is a complete joke who has no idea waht he is doing and are regretting appointing him as RNC chair and thinking it will hurt them in their hopes at a comeback.  :lol

Hey, maybe we can get back to the awesome LBJ days when Democrats had 75 senators, getting more and more likely as the days go by.
so when this guy get booted or "resigns due to personal reasons" by Summer's end its only going to reinforce the GOP's rep as the honkey party.

I'm still amazed he got the job in the first place.  Fucking Palin had a stronger resume then that guy.  He's obviously in over his head and is a little too fond of all the attention he's now getting.  If he weren't such an empty suit I'd almost feel sorry for him.
Quote from: U.S. News and World Report
GOP to Michael Steele: Quiet About Rush Limbaugh or You're Fired
and that's from no liberal rag there.
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #2113 on: March 04, 2009, 10:22:28 AM »
When did Steele mention one armed midgets? :lol

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« Reply #2114 on: March 04, 2009, 10:25:05 AM »
This was probably covered already but the latest thing my Republican/Libertarian peers are throwing at me is a bill making its rounds through the house that wants to repeal the 22nd amendment: http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-hj5/show anybody know anything more on this?
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« Reply #2115 on: March 04, 2009, 10:34:43 AM »
i expect this to get as far as attempts to repeal whatever law kept Arnold from becoming president did
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« Reply #2116 on: March 04, 2009, 10:43:18 AM »
Steele was on Morning Joe this morning, almost totally incoherent to the point where Scarborough kicked him off the air. :lol
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« Reply #2117 on: March 04, 2009, 10:47:15 AM »
This was probably covered already but the latest thing my Republican/Libertarian peers are throwing at me is a bill making its rounds through the house that wants to repeal the 22nd amendment: http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-hj5/show anybody know anything more on this?

If I remember correctly, he has introduced the same bill before (every year?).

In other news, the DC vote thingy died in the House yesterday.

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« Reply #2118 on: March 04, 2009, 10:49:38 AM »
Haha, I guess I caught the tail end of a gag where he was replaying the Today show interview as his interview.  The actual video is funnier in its entirety.
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« Reply #2119 on: March 04, 2009, 11:20:01 AM »
ADP jobs report for Feb -697k

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« Reply #2120 on: March 04, 2009, 11:27:30 AM »
ADP jobs report for Feb -697k

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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #2121 on: March 04, 2009, 11:32:08 AM »
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   The seeds were planted in October after Democracy Corps, the Democratic polling company run by Carville and Greenberg, included Limbaugh’s name in a survey and found that many Americans just don’t like him.

    “His positives for voters under 40 was 11 percent,” Carville recalled with a degree of amazement, alluding to a question about whether voters had a positive or negative view of the talk show host.

    Paul Begala, a close friend of Carville, Greenberg and White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, said they found Limbaugh’s overall ratings were even lower than the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama’s controversial former pastor, and William Ayers, the domestic terrorist and Chicago resident who Republicans sought to tie to Obama during the campaign.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19596.html

They couldn't have picked a more arrogant target. Rush understands perfectly what's going on but doesn't give a shit: this increases his ratings and relevance. He wouldn't be on the radar if McCain had won. Hell his most...prolific period came during Clinton's 8 years.

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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #2122 on: March 04, 2009, 11:50:30 AM »
Well, it shows you the vacuum that exists in the leadership of the Republican party that this non-story is still going on. When did Obama bring it up, almost a month ago?

Steele had good intentions with his initial comments, but was just the absolute wrong guy to give it.

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« Reply #2125 on: March 04, 2009, 12:20:30 PM »
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« Reply #2126 on: March 04, 2009, 12:23:20 PM »
:bow Beardo :bow2

http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=28420.0

I eat a shoe if the stimulus doesn't pass and we lose 500K jobs for 6 months straight.

One more month to go!

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« Reply #2127 on: March 04, 2009, 12:33:21 PM »


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« Reply #2128 on: March 04, 2009, 01:07:42 PM »
Wow Crushed  :lol  :lol , nice work.

Calculated Risk today looks like a nightmare, jesus.
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« Reply #2129 on: March 04, 2009, 01:10:17 PM »
8.3 million US home loans are upside down.  :-\

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« Reply #2130 on: March 04, 2009, 01:46:58 PM »
8.3 million US home loans are upside down.  :-\

I'd love to see the data on how many of those were ARM loans.
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« Reply #2131 on: March 04, 2009, 02:05:01 PM »
it's moved well beyond subprimes now, anyhow.
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« Reply #2132 on: March 04, 2009, 02:46:48 PM »
Yes, when homes (in my area) that were built 5 years ago for 350k and are still sitting at asking prices in the 240-260k range. It's pretty close to fucking anyone that has made a home purchase in this decade.

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« Reply #2133 on: March 04, 2009, 02:57:07 PM »
i'm still above water! bought my house for a meagre (lol) $232K on a fixed-rate 15-year ($40K down plus i pay on the principal like a mofo), and it's still valued at $316K

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« Reply #2134 on: March 04, 2009, 03:04:34 PM »
Yea, I refinanced into a 15 year loan back in 2004 (when fixed rates were dropping like crazy. I think I got in around 5.25ish.) Best decision EVER.

If I was forced to sell today (in today's market), I would probably get back +5k what I spent on it in 2000. This is after adding a new basement, deck, windows and roof in the past 4 years. OWNED


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« Reply #2135 on: March 04, 2009, 03:04:47 PM »
Yes, when homes (in my area) that were built 5 years ago for 350k and are still sitting at asking prices in the 240-260k range. It's pretty close to fucking anyone that has made a home purchase in this decade.

So far housing prices where I'm at have barely budged.  :smug  

Also, anyone who bought before 2001-2002 or so is still probably doing OK provided they didn't HELOC or cash-out refi except in the very worst of markets.

Nice article in the grey lady with some stats:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/04/business/04leonhardt.html?hp

Basically 2G2D is hitting the lower-educated the most right now in terms of jobs since the bubble was in construction, but the huge convulsions in the stock market should have positive impacts for younger, less established investors just now getting into their 401ks and buying their first homes-almost all of which is essentially redistributed from the most wealthy as their portfolio and real estate holdings plummet.

another point the article hinted at but didn't make - without a manufacturing base or construction work, a decent job without at least some community college/vocational school time is going to be harder and harder to get, and even then a four-year degree has cemented itself as a baseline middle class requirement. State and federal education funding and arrangements need to reflect this reality, especially when it comes to student loan debt loads and encouraging students not interested in a full white collar, four-year college job path to enroll in vocational technical schools with apprenticeship programs.
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« Reply #2136 on: March 04, 2009, 03:06:20 PM »
Man, housing prices for non-California are damn cheap.  :'(

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« Reply #2137 on: March 04, 2009, 03:07:19 PM »
Yes, when homes (in my area) that were built 5 years ago for 350k and are still sitting at asking prices in the 240-260k range. It's pretty close to fucking anyone that has made a home purchase in this decade.

So far housing prices where I'm at have barely budged.  :smug 

Yup, same here... neighbor's house for instance was put on the market a year and a half ago at 470k, and they haven't budged at all with the price. I frequently read the real estate guides to get an idea of what I'm in for, and barely anything has gone down.
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« Reply #2138 on: March 04, 2009, 03:13:12 PM »
Man, housing prices for non-California are damn cheap.  :'(

You can build a 3,200 sq foot home (with 2 1/2 car garage) on an acre of land for about 250-280k in rural Ohio. It's crazy cheap.


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« Reply #2139 on: March 04, 2009, 03:15:45 PM »
You can build a 3,200 sq foot home (with 2 1/2 car garage) on an acre of land for about 250-280k in rural Ohio. It's crazy cheap.

Christ, why would you NEED something that big?

I'm kind of upset with myself that I didn't save more earlier in life- I could have gotten in on the cheap in town housing in Atlanta 7-8 years ago if I'd had more money saved up.  By the time I got my shit together enough to get some money in the bank we were at the height of the boom and everything was massively overvalued, oh well.
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« Reply #2140 on: March 04, 2009, 03:21:27 PM »
i'm still above water! bought my house for a meagre (lol) $232K on a fixed-rate 15-year ($40K down plus i pay on the principal like a mofo), and it's still valued at $316K

:rock :bow me :bow2 :rock

socialists: still the best with money

my wife's sisters' family was looking to move to a better school area in Seattle and it was a total bitch finding a place that was even remotely affordable, they just gave up after a year  of looking. Still a pretty strong market.
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« Reply #2141 on: March 04, 2009, 03:23:32 PM »
Christ, why would you NEED something that big?

I swear, I want my next home to be like 1/3 the size of my current one, the problem is that houses have been getting bigger and bigger over the years. Small and cozy >>> huge mammoth unless you are dumb and have kids I guess.
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« Reply #2143 on: March 04, 2009, 03:34:03 PM »
i'm still above water! bought my house for a meagre (lol) $232K on a fixed-rate 15-year ($40K down plus i pay on the principal like a mofo), and it's still valued at $316K

:rock :bow me :bow2 :rock

socialists: still the best with money

my wife's sisters' family was looking to move to a better school area in Seattle and it was a total bitch finding a place that was even remotely affordable, they just gave up after a year  of looking. Still a pretty strong market.


Are all of the decent school districts in unaffordable locations?  My wife and I were planning on flying to Seattle at the end of this month to scout out the place to maybe relocate.
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« Reply #2144 on: March 04, 2009, 03:38:27 PM »
i'm still above water! bought my house for a meagre (lol) $232K on a fixed-rate 15-year ($40K down plus i pay on the principal like a mofo), and it's still valued at $316K

:rock :bow me :bow2 :rock

socialists: still the best with money

my wife's sisters' family was looking to move to a better school area in Seattle and it was a total bitch finding a place that was even remotely affordable, they just gave up after a year  of looking. Still a pretty strong market.


Are all of the decent school districts in unaffordable locations?  My wife and I were planning on flying to Seattle at the end of this month to scout out the place to maybe relocate.

I  have no idea if this is really the case or if they were just sort of OCD about things. Drinky or distantmantra might know better, I live on the other coast from Seattle.
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« Reply #2145 on: March 04, 2009, 03:43:51 PM »
Christ, why would you NEED something that big?

You honestly don't, I was just going big to illustrate a point. Personally, I think a house in the 1900-2300sqft range is ideal for a family of 4.

Anything bigger than that and you can have rooms/areas of the house that literally go unused year round. I've been in houses like that.

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« Reply #2146 on: March 04, 2009, 03:58:59 PM »
:drudge

Article writer may be a biased neoconservative capitalist pig. I have no idea.
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« Reply #2147 on: March 04, 2009, 04:00:16 PM »
oh those democrats

like the time they stole all the "w"s from the keyboards
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« Reply #2148 on: March 04, 2009, 04:23:48 PM »
When 87% of Republican Senators vote for a package that's NOTHING BUT TAX CUTS AND TRY TO CALL IT A STIMULUS PACKAGE then yes, they're doing nothing. 

Which brings to mind the money quote of the entire debacle from John Cole over at Balloon Juice:

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I really don’t understand how bipartisanship is ever going to work when one of the parties is insane. Imagine trying to negotiate an agreement on dinner plans with your date, and you suggest Italian and she states her preference would be a meal of tire rims and anthrax. If you can figure out a way to split the difference there and find a meal you will both enjoy, you can probably figure out how bipartisanship is going to work the next few years.
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« Reply #2149 on: March 04, 2009, 05:52:53 PM »
oh those democrats

like the time they stole all the "w"s from the keyboards
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« Reply #2150 on: March 04, 2009, 06:04:58 PM »
i'm still above water! bought my house for a meagre (lol) $232K on a fixed-rate 15-year ($40K down plus i pay on the principal like a mofo), and it's still valued at $316K

:rock :bow me :bow2 :rock

socialists: still the best with money

my wife's sisters' family was looking to move to a better school area in Seattle and it was a total bitch finding a place that was even remotely affordable, they just gave up after a year  of looking. Still a pretty strong market.


Are all of the decent school districts in unaffordable locations?  My wife and I were planning on flying to Seattle at the end of this month to scout out the place to maybe relocate.

If you do bail out of this hole, please invite me to your going away party.
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« Reply #2151 on: March 04, 2009, 09:03:37 PM »
They stole Ws from keybords? You shitting me? When was this?

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« Reply #2152 on: March 04, 2009, 09:05:03 PM »
They stole Ws from keybords? You shitting me? When was this?

Before Bush came into power in 2000, bitterness over the recount and all that.

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« Reply #2153 on: March 04, 2009, 09:08:31 PM »
They stole Ws from keybords? You shitting me? When was this?
they didn't.  It was part of Rove's bullshit narrative about our unfairly embattered president.  It was reported that the outgoing Clinton staffers defaced the offices they left behind for Bush's team, but when questioned about ANY specific instances the press secretary couldn't come up with any.  None of these instances were photographed, no cases were prosecuted.  Its fiction.

Just another baloney sandwich to feed Hannity, Rush and co.

edit: Ah, here we go.
Quote from: George W. Bush
I will tell you one thing, just in terms of the former president. All the allegations that they took stuff off of Air Force One is simply not true, for example.
and again, about the Whitehouse vandalism.
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But the Air Force One story, as with the allegations of widespread White House vandalism, proved not to be true. And Bush was there to say so. "There might have been a prank or two, maybe somebody put a cartoon on the wall, but that's OK," Bush said about the White House "vandalism" on Jan. 26. "It's time now to move forward."
The story was always horseshit.  And Bob Barr and Alberto Gonzales are about as trustworthy as that guy hanging around outside the liquor store who needs a quarter to call home.
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« Reply #2154 on: March 04, 2009, 09:16:42 PM »
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« Reply #2155 on: March 04, 2009, 09:17:54 PM »
They stole Ws from keybords? You shitting me? When was this?
they didn't.  It was part of Rove's bullshit narrative about our unfairly embattered president.  It was reported that the outgoing Clinton staffers defaced the offices they left behind for Bush's team, but when questioned about ANY specific instances the press secretary couldn't come up with any.  None of these instances were photographed, no cases were prosecuted.  Its fiction.

Just another baloney sandwich to feed Hannity, Rush and co.

Really? Wow.

Oh and Obama's African Relatives came to the White House:

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« Reply #2156 on: March 04, 2009, 09:21:35 PM »
all they had was the cell phone camera handy i see
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« Reply #2157 on: March 04, 2009, 09:22:23 PM »
Damn, if the dude to Obama's right switched places with him that would be a perfect Kid n Play vibe
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« Reply #2158 on: March 04, 2009, 09:24:02 PM »
Do you see the look of horror on the Presidential portrait in the background?



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« Reply #2159 on: March 04, 2009, 09:26:10 PM »
Do you see the look of horror on the Presidential portrait in the background?

:lol oh god once you see it you can't unsee it
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