Corona Thread |OT| Nu variant, who dis?

[shosta]

thank you mods

[VomKriege]

UK claiming same curve as France, true, they're both not including people that die of it outside of hospital **

Said they will add them later**

418 new deaths registered in France, the highest number yet.
A Moselle hospital is requesting 12 transfers a day because it's saturated.

They haven't announced new cases yet.

How many days ahead are you guys to us? a week-ish?

I think as deaths go up the new numbers talks will suddenly get lost within reports.

I wouldn't know exactly how far ahead we are. Schools were closed... 17 days ago ? And we've been in lockdown for 13 to 14 days.

Apparently they can't wait for getting antiviral tests, PCR is on the heavy side.

Edit : Worldometer says 4000k+ new positives but I don't know where they sourced it.

[thisismyusername]

Ya love to see it. Boomer Remover™ doing the job of removing Boomers.

No I don't love to see people dying from disease?

I'll be edgy a moment and say: I do. If folks like the UK dinner, Seattle Choir, Florida Slip-and-Slide party want to get-together over "FAKE NEWS!!!!!111oneone!1111!1!"™, catch it and die: Well they Darwin Awarded themselves. It's nobody's fault but their own for continuing to ignore WHO/Federal Doctor's orders.

"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought this was America/UK/whatever country" only goes so far when you have literal journalists and articles about the dangers of this virus.

I feel bad for the folks that get caught by their stupidity, but folks going to Cancun or whatever for Spring Break and the doctors around the country are like "no, you shouldn't go anywhere unless it's to literally get food for yourself and family?" Nah, fuck them. They knew the risks.

[jorma]

Looking at Swedish corona stats, not quarantining people using force and closing everything down but instead asking us plebs to act responsibly on our own accord seems to work just as well as the more authoritarian methods. 

Not to rain on your parade, but in reality sweden probably just tests not nearly enough and the big wave is coming. The CFR is at 3,6% which at this time points to a big dark number. The swedish death rate per capita is currently on par with the UK and twice as high as the US. Norway for example has about as many infections as sweden but less than a third of deaths...

I'm not suggesting we are doing better, just not worse. If the more draconian measures don't yield better results than a mere suggestion from the PM to act responsibly, there is literally no reason to implement them.

It's too premature to say Sweden's approach is yielding better or equal results. It may still, for particular reasons or a better general approach. I'd say it's riskier, but maybe your government will be vindicated.

I think they still have quarantine as an option for Stockholm, but wont do it unless they really really need to. And also that our experts thinks it's dangerous to implement it too early, since people will start to violate quarantine just as they are needed indoors the most.

I personally approve of how they've been running it, and it seems like most people agree.
It also has the added benefit of making people focus more on their own actions and less on everyone else. 

I guess it's true you could shutdown "too early" (though from a contagion standpoint it cannot hurt, at worst you're setting the clock to almost 0 if there's really few cases) but half the world is there already and the economy has already gone into sleep mode, so I think countries shutting "too late" may run the risk of having to shut anyway when most of the major economic players are going to restart the engine, suffering longer closure and travel restrictions. It's probably a bigger question mark for the US than you, but still.

Also, it's probably an unprovable assertion but maybe the Swedish approach could be facilitated because all neighbouring countries / places that are interconnected with Sweden are taking the hit now, reducing the amount of people that could carry the infection in.

It's true, however, that shutdowns may have a big toll on general mental health, small businesses and poor workers.

fifstar pointed that Sweden was maybe not testing enough, if so the policy is more of a gamble than a rational approach.

But who knows ? I sure wish I could see friends and enjoy the sun right now. We'll probably need to wait late April-May to really have a better understanding of how far the virus penetrated, how effective were the shutdowns and where we'll be going from there.

Social distancing already being the norm here is probably the biggest factor. And that it is very possible to go for hour long walks with the dog without having to brush shoulders with anyone, unless you live in central Stockholm. And it's kinda possible there too.
And also that people move out at 18 and never ever live with their parents again. And i read somewhere that Sweden has the highest number of single person households in the world. Or EU, i forget which.

All of these probably helps mitigating the spread a lot.

I think the actual gamble is in enforcing quarantine too early. A future quarantine could still work, but a quarantine in June after already spending three months indoors? A bit much to ask. People just wouldn't give a shit if it meant missing out on the roughly three months of good weather we have in the year 

[Don Rumata]

As long as I'm partially immune for a few months I'm choosing to see this as an absolute win #hopepunk

Were you ever tested for it? Or were you assuming it was COVID based on symptoms? If it was tho, you might want to be careful still, as some people seem to remain contagious for a couple of weeks even after their symptoms are gone.

[Nintex]

Ya love to see it. Boomer Remover™ doing the job of removing Boomers.

No I don't love to see people dying from disease?

I'll be edgy a moment and say: I do. If folks like the UK dinner, Seattle Choir, Florida Slip-and-Slide party want to get-together over "FAKE NEWS!!!!!111oneone!1111!1!"™, catch it and die: Well they Darwin Awarded themselves. It's nobody's fault but their own for continuing to ignore WHO/Federal Doctor's orders.

"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought this was America/UK/whatever country" only goes so far when you have literal journalists and articles about the dangers of this virus.

I feel bad for the folks that get caught by their stupidity, but folks going to Cancun or whatever for Spring Break and the doctors around the country are like "no, you shouldn't go anywhere unless it's to literally get food for yourself and family?" Nah, fuck them. They knew the risks.

They will put a strain on the healthcare system though.

Maybe we should just shoot people over 18 who go outside in groups for no reason. 

[Don Rumata]

Ya love to see it. Boomer Remover™ doing the job of removing Boomers.

No I don't love to see people dying from disease?

I'll be edgy a moment and say: I do. If folks like the UK dinner, Seattle Choir, Florida Slip-and-Slide party want to get-together over "FAKE NEWS!!!!!111oneone!1111!1!"™, catch it and die: Well they Darwin Awarded themselves. It's nobody's fault but their own for continuing to ignore WHO/Federal Doctor's orders.

"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought this was America/UK/whatever country" only goes so far when you have literal journalists and articles about the dangers of this virus.

I feel bad for the folks that get caught by their stupidity, but folks going to Cancun or whatever for Spring Break and the doctors around the country are like "no, you shouldn't go anywhere unless it's to literally get food for yourself and family?" Nah, fuck them. They knew the risks.

But that's not how it works.
It's not like COVID kills based on merit.
You could be a total cunt and go to spring-break, and do whatever the fuck, then spread it around to people who may have gone out once to buy food, and they'd still risk dying while you could end up with a bad fever at worst.
Not to mention the point Nintex made, since you can't really negate cunts a hospital bed, based on their cunt behaviour.

[Nintex]

Our government didn't order ventilators from Philips until 2 weeks ago and Philips is just now ramping up production

They are the self declared biggest medical supplier in the world. 

[VomKriege]

Some healthcare professionals and lawyers in France are trying to push a legal request for the requisition of the "means of productions" to avoid a shortage of medication (including morphine).

[Don Rumata]

As long as I'm partially immune for a few months I'm choosing to see this as an absolute win #hopepunk

Were you ever tested for it? Or were you assuming it was COVID based on symptoms? If it was tho, you might want to be careful still, as some people seem to remain contagious for a couple of weeks even after their symptoms are gone.

Someone who got sick from positive tested people got me sick + symptoms. I'm planning to keep isolated for a couple weeks.

Gotcha.
Happy you're past the hump then.

[bluemax]

https://twitter.com/Manda_like_wine/status/1244602911084154880

[Ghoul]

https://twitter.com/Manda_like_wine/status/1244602911084154880

where source?

Found:

https://nypost.com/2020/03/30/las-vegas-parking-lot-turned-into-homeless-shelter-during-coronavirus-crisis/

[Cheddahz]

I've pretty much been self isolating since I came back from a trip a few weeks ago and I'm feeling okay; still only going to go out if I have to for food (which 95% of South Carolina is not doing and it's hurting us)

[shosta]

https://twitter.com/MaybeAmes/status/1243937726350704643

[Madrun Badrun]

I really want to go out and buy sugary treats but I also don't want to die because of it.  Is this how heroin addicts feel?

[shosta]

Happy you're past the hump then.

Actually it sounds like the hump is just getting started 

[Bebpo]

WTF is going on with California testing, I keep seeing that there's supposedly tens of thousands tests they're waiting the results for ?

Edit : This I guess

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2020-03-30/its-taking-up-to-eight-days-to-get-coronavirus-tests-results-heres-why

Yeah, my friend's sister is a nurse at a place where 5 nurses tested positive. She had bad symptoms had to jump through a dozen hoops to get tested and then it took 8 days to get the results and she had to just self-quarantine at home until then. Ended up being negative, thankfully. But CA's testing situation still sucks.

I don't understand why CA can't do their own test/testing like NY.

[Nintex]

I just remembered it has been about 8 days since I last used my car.
Imagine all the dead car batteries in 2 months 

[Ghoul]

I just remembered it has been about 8 days since I last used my car.
Imagine all the dead car batteries in 2 months 

Imagine all the dead car owners in two months.

[bluemax]

https://twitter.com/benbbaldwin/status/1244698644982497280

Virginia is now Stay at home until June 10th!

[BisMarckie]

I just remembered it has been about 8 days since I last used my car.
Imagine all the dead car batteries in 2 months 

Imagine all the dead car owners in two months.

Daddy is going to buy a cheap slightly used luxury car

[Ghoul]

I just remembered it has been about 8 days since I last used my car.
Imagine all the dead car batteries in 2 months 

Imagine all the dead car owners in two months.

Daddy is going to buy a cheap slightly used luxury car

Nep step dad sweating, "Bitch you better live, you owe me 7 years high APR %"

Added look at this shit, people stockpiling didn't even freeze that shit..

https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/29/fury-wasted-food-piles-nhs-workers-struggle-get-vital-supplies-12473484/

[TakingBackSunday]

reading reeee posters' hot takes on this is both incredibly distressing an hilariously  galaxy

People claiming that this is the end of the modern era and humanity will never recover is pretty lol-worthy

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/johnmyers/status/1244701576301666314
https://twitter.com/johnmyers/status/1244706600561983489
https://twitter.com/johnmyers/status/1244708740063887360
https://twitter.com/johnmyers/status/1244710772346765312
https://twitter.com/johnmyers/status/1244711387927994368
https://twitter.com/MattHjourno/status/1244709597035638784

[Tripon]

I just remembered it has been about 8 days since I last used my car.
Imagine all the dead car batteries in 2 months 

Imagine all the dead car owners in two months.

Daddy is going to buy a cheap slightly used luxury car

Nep step dad sweating, "Bitch you better live, you owe me 7 years high APR %"

Added look at this shit, people stockpiling didn't even freeze that shit..

https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/29/fury-wasted-food-piles-nhs-workers-struggle-get-vital-supplies-12473484/

Yeah, I made sure to start my car yesterday, even though its a hybrid just to let it run for a minute. I still got payments until 2022 on the car, but I'm thinking after this is done, I'll follow BisMarckie lead, trade in my car for a used luxury car.

[Nintex]

Just took a drive through town. Didn't leave my car obviously.

It was like driving through Chernobyl.
Eerily quiet, empty streets, empty parking lots even and usually this place is quite lively in the early evening.
Exchanged friendly waves with the bus driver, the pawg on her scooter and the two poor souls walking their dogs.
 
Which was all human contact in a 30 minute drive.

[Lonewulfeus]

The Netherlands has fallen 

But nintex survives 

[benjipwns]

My mom keeps telling me whenever they find something that can be turned into ventilators with minor changes. I don't know what she wants me to do with this information.

[VomKriege]

My mom keeps telling me whenever they find something that can be turned into ventilators with minor changes. I don't know what she wants me to do with this information.

Doxx at home, save lives.

[Madrun Badrun]

My mom keeps telling me whenever they find something that can be turned into ventilators with minor changes. I don't know what she wants me to do with this information.

She wants a vacuum-cum-ventilator for mother's day.  Just going to do a bit of tidying-up while I breathe. 

[bork]

https://twitter.com/ChadChronister/status/1244682366431432707

[team filler]

As long as I'm partially immune for a few months I'm choosing to see this as an absolute win #hopepunk

you're almost brazilian! 

[bork]

Holy crap, my wife's job relented on their archaic remote access policies and she got the go-ahead to work from home.  Now that government money will pay for her missing a month of work after having the baby later this year.

Nope, shot down!

[Nintex]

This sums up this whole thing pretty well

https://twitter.com/mj_lee/status/1244712946225340417

[team filler]

Just took a drive through town. Didn't leave my car obviously.

It was like driving through Chernobyl.
Eerily quiet, empty streets, empty parking lots even and usually this place is quite lively in the early evening.
Exchanged friendly waves with the bus driver, the pawg on her scooter and the two poor souls walking their dogs.
 
Which was all human contact in a 30 minute drive.

dutch pawg? 

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/Hezbolsonaro/status/1244689441551028224

 

[bluemax]

https://twitter.com/TucsonRomero/status/1244733963047862272

https://twitter.com/maddow/status/1244736804797984769

[Madrun Badrun]

Another bad day for Canada. 

[Ghoul]

This sums up this whole thing pretty well

https://twitter.com/mj_lee/status/1244712946225340417

NEWWW YORK, we got more corona cases than you
death toll is double you
NEW YORK, NEW YORK NEW YORK.
Keep our streets full of infected, we're reckless and stupid.

- beyonce

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/jason_koebler/status/1244682109320642562

 

[VomKriege]

Paris hospitals looking into a way to have patients get respiratory assistance with remote medical monitoring, hopefully to free up ICU beds faster.

While the Great East region is the one that saturated first, Paris and Ile de France are where the most cases are and healthcare facilities there are starting to get at capacity. Like with Strasbourg and Mulhouse, they're starting transferring patients in others regions not hit as hard.

Hopefully effects from the lockdown should start to help within the week but with the long ICU treatments needed it will take some time to free beds.

The IMF is considering that a recession in Europe is inevitable and the FAO is worried about stress on farming and food production worldwide exacerbated by countries restricting exports.

[VomKriege]

Spain suspending all funeral ceremonies for now.

[bluemax]

https://twitter.com/blakesmustache/status/1244586703475691521

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/blakesmustache/status/1244586714041024518

They ran a simulation like they were testing the emergency response systems prior to 9/11
John Bolton fired the Pandemic team and Iran was the first country severely impacted after China

nothing suspicious to see here 

[Himu]

Glenda says she thinks she's got the corona but symptoms are lightening and the body is starting to feel better. Been sick a week.

[Coffee Dog]

Glenda says she thinks she's got the corona but symptoms are lightening and the body is starting to feel better. Been sick a week.

glad to hear things are improving

[VomKriege]

Self distance from the forum didn't work heh ?
Best of recoveries.

[VomKriege]

https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1244731747159474178

The Stock Market has spoken, Mr. Beale !

[Joe Molotov]

So I guess we can keep the country shut down indefinitely since the Dow is doing fine now?

[Nintex]

I think the stock market people figured out after a week of panic that they can just trade and do cocaine from home.

[VomKriege]

USA on its way into the exclusive 3000 fatalities club. Will took a little longer to overtake France (will depends on how things develop...).

More states have moved to have some sort of measure in place though.

[shosta]

Financial Times has yet to update its graph even though the US is literally off the chart now

[VomKriege]

Financial Times has yet to update its graph even though the US is literally off the chart now

Not all US data may be in... Well it depends on what 24h window you operate with but Worldometer resets at 00:00 GMT, or so they say. I usually see the FT tracker updated in the morning.

USA overtook France in fatalities now. 

[toku]

As long as I'm partially immune for a few months I'm choosing to see this as an absolute win #hopepunk

everyone who reads this post is now immune god bless you do not need to like just have faith bless up

[Pennywise]

France got 80+ people in hospitals in Germany, Switzerland and Luxembourg. They want to push that number to over a 100 soon.

Just imagine the US asking Mexico for help 

In other news. German deaths are still pretty low, but there are several eldery care homes that got hit hard. One of them already got 17+ fatalities. That shit is rough.. and more confirmed cases in different care homes have been made public.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/koryodynasty/status/1244771437107347456

[bluemax]

https://twitter.com/CountyofLA/status/1244770268523851777

[Himu]

As long as I'm partially immune for a few months I'm choosing to see this as an absolute win #hopepunk

Isn't it worse when you get it a second time

[TEEEPO]

As long as I'm partially immune for a few months I'm choosing to see this as an absolute win #hopepunk

Isn't it worse when you get it a second time

they were false positives, thus far.

[Himu]

As long as I'm partially immune for a few months I'm choosing to see this as an absolute win #hopepunk

Isn't it worse when you get it a second time

they were false positives, thus far.

Good to know