Author Topic: The NBA thread (Read 1519574 times)

Beezy · « **Reply #5460 on:** May 17, 2012, 07:26:44 PM »

damn...

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #5461 on:** May 17, 2012, 07:39:27 PM »

Horrible timing for Rose. It'll be 2 years before he is at his best again (if ever).

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #5462 on:** May 17, 2012, 07:47:55 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on May 17, 2012, 03:02:51 PM

So I guess he's talking about Barkley there? League Pass doesn't carry the half-time shows unfortunately so I don't get a lot of the merry banter about Ernie and Kenny and Charles...

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5463 on:** May 17, 2012, 08:53:32 PM »

Miami getting their ass kicked and now here comes the realization and anger about how this team this season was built on a bad bench and bad coaching and was never as good as the media touted them to be. Wade shouting at Spolestra in the huddle. The meltdowns if they lose this series will be hilarious.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #5464 on:** May 17, 2012, 09:02:30 PM »

They seem to be melting down on court as well. Spoelstra and Wade will have to hug it the fuck out afterwards, but hell, it's only one game, on the Pacers' home court. It'll be close especially without Bosh but the Heat should still win the series...

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5465 on:** May 17, 2012, 09:07:15 PM »

Probably the only thing I'm qualified to talk about realistically is Miami Heat basketball because they are the only team I consistently watch all the time. And its a myth that they are some phenomenal squad even with Lebron and Wade. Now that may be for lots of reason. Lebron and Wade have to take some blame. Bosh is gone sure. I think we all know how I feel about Spolestra and the shitty gm job they've done over the last couple seasons. Battier is shot. They love to grab these dudes and plug them in right as you can put a fork in them. They are fundamentally not a title worthy team. Their offense sucks. It's sucked for two seasons now. The look great against shitty teams that turn over the ball alot and Wade and Lebron throw alley-oops to each on the resulting fastbreaks. They look oh so average against everybody else and when the game actually becomes a half court game. That team that folded against the Mavericks are the real Heat. They are not mentally tough. The emperor is not wearing any clothes. He's buck naked. They are lucky to not be down 3-0. That first game was crazy close.

End rant mode.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #5466 on:** May 17, 2012, 09:22:14 PM »

http://www.nba.com/video/channels/playoffs/2012/05/17/0041100203_mia_ind_angry_wade.nba/

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #5467 on:** May 17, 2012, 09:43:55 PM »

Dwayne Wade = 2 of 13 shooting, 5 points

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #5468 on:** May 17, 2012, 09:47:12 PM »

Chalmers was Wade-like though. Didn't make any diff. Once the Pacers started hitting 3s, it was over.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #5469 on:** May 17, 2012, 10:13:18 PM »

Spurs putting on another relaxed, professional basketball clinic here. Who is beating them? Still not seeing anyone. Their big 3 are practically telepathic at this point, and they get insane production from their roleplayers.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5470 on:** May 17, 2012, 10:45:26 PM »

Time to call Phil Jackson for next year. Because that's the only way the Heat are winning anything at this point.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5471 on:** May 18, 2012, 12:05:48 AM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on May 17, 2012, 10:13:18 PM

Spurs putting on another relaxed, professional basketball clinic here. Who is beating them? Still not seeing anyone. Their big 3 are practically telepathic at this point, and they get insane production from their roleplayers.

Yeah its time to hop on the Spurs Bandwagon. This team does not take bad shots.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #5472 on:** May 18, 2012, 03:06:00 AM »

Hollinger on the Spurs:
'We're basically watching two versions of the playoffs right now.

In one version, a team has some players on the court who can score and others who pretty much can't, and the objective of the opposing defense is to send extra defenders at the former and give shots to the latter. We saw a great example of that Wednesday night, when both the Lakers and Thunder ignored two of the five opponents on the court to focus their efforts on the other three and, as a result, suffocated two teams that are normally quite good offensively.

Then there's the other version, being played by the Spurs, in which everybody can score, at all times, and the defense is left with no clue what to do about it.'

Yep. And the Spurs aren't bad on defense either.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #5473 on:** May 18, 2012, 04:26:12 AM »

It's not just that they can score, it's that the Spurs are an elite passing team and know where to be at all times. They're almost playing a European style, and the majority of the NBA has no idea how to prevent it.

etiolate · « **Reply #5474 on:** May 18, 2012, 05:04:45 AM »

I think the best defenses against the Webber-era Kings were the ones that took away the pass and watched their man rather than the ball holder. It never really stopped them, but it was the most effective strategy.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5475 on:** May 18, 2012, 10:58:58 AM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on May 18, 2012, 03:06:00 AM

Hollinger on the Spurs:
'We're basically watching two versions of the playoffs right now.

In one version, a team has some players on the court who can score and others who pretty much can't, and the objective of the opposing defense is to send extra defenders at the former and give shots to the latter. We saw a great example of that Wednesday night, when both the Lakers and Thunder ignored two of the five opponents on the court to focus their efforts on the other three and, as a result, suffocated two teams that are normally quite good offensively.

Then there's the other version, being played by the Spurs, in which everybody can score, at all times, and the defense is left with no clue what to do about it.'

Yep. And the Spurs aren't bad on defense either.

That sounds about right. And yeah their passing and shooting is really crisp. No to mention you have someone like Parker who is able to break down defenses and drive and score or start the pass rotations to the open man. In some ways it reminds me of the Mavs success last year.

Watching the Spurs on offense and then watching the Heat on offense is like night and day.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5476 on:** May 18, 2012, 08:26:17 PM »

Who would have ever thought the Celtics may advance further than the Heat do this year in the playoffs...

The sixers are just out-manned and have no offense.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #5477 on:** May 18, 2012, 08:27:57 PM »

I bet the NBA is thrilled at the prospect of a Spurs-Pacers final.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #5478 on:** May 18, 2012, 10:45:55 PM »

Andre Igoudala

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5479 on:** May 18, 2012, 11:33:26 PM »

The Celtics really collapsed there.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #5480 on:** May 18, 2012, 11:43:15 PM »

they weren't hitting ANYTHING. Pierce kept bailing them out, but garnett was awful and allen wasn't shooting well either. Rondo had a solid game but when KG isn't doing well it's not easy to win for them

but the Sixers were fucking nigh-perfect in the second half. Stifling D, hitting a bunch of contested jumpers, and Evan Tunrer showing up with some drives.

It's a series.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #5481 on:** May 19, 2012, 11:35:02 AM »

It's been a series since the opening tip

The first 2 games were about as close as you can get - Doc Rivers rightly said he felt the Celtics stole the one they actually won. It projects as a narrow win for the Celtics though. I have no real doubt that they won't advance.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5482 on:** May 19, 2012, 02:35:14 PM »

The Spurs have now won 17 straight and 26 of their last 28. They are 6-0 in the playoffs.

If this was one of the big market glamour franchises the media and people in general would be going nuts.

etiolate · « **Reply #5483 on:** May 19, 2012, 05:56:09 PM »

poor press

Having to pay attention to a league and not just a few select cities.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #5484 on:** May 19, 2012, 07:26:12 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on May 19, 2012, 02:35:14 PM

The Spurs have now won 17 straight and 26 of their last 28. They are 6-0 in the playoffs.

If this was one of the big market glamour franchises the media and people in general would be going nuts.

Or if Tony Parker was still dating Eva Longoria

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5485 on:** May 19, 2012, 11:34:21 PM »

The thunder don't look so hot tonight.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5486 on:** May 20, 2012, 12:58:09 AM »

Huge thunder rally here.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #5487 on:** May 20, 2012, 01:02:22 AM »

Holy shit Durant clutching it up

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5488 on:** May 20, 2012, 01:02:54 AM »

Killer 3.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #5489 on:** May 20, 2012, 01:05:18 AM »

Lakers are done.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5490 on:** May 20, 2012, 01:08:47 AM »

btw the Spurs were down 33 to 11 at the end of the first quarter.

etiolate · « **Reply #5491 on:** May 20, 2012, 01:29:07 AM »

Quote from: etiolate on May 17, 2012, 03:07:13 AM

I see the Lakers winning game 3 in LA, losing the next game and then getting blown out in game 5 as Kobe quits on the team.

Blowout incoming!

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #5492 on:** May 20, 2012, 02:02:58 AM »

Kobe is still great at closing out his team's chances.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5493 on:** May 20, 2012, 02:33:03 AM »

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #5494 on:** May 20, 2012, 11:15:28 AM »

Well, the Spurs had their 'punch in the mouth' that I've been waiting on and just rolled right on through it like it was nothing. Down 24, up 24, they are equally poised. Nobody is beating them.

Beezy · « **Reply #5495 on:** May 20, 2012, 11:16:45 AM »

Spurs bandwagon

Everyone has only been talking about OKC. I can only assume that they're just not watching the Spurs at all.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5496 on:** May 20, 2012, 03:43:04 PM »

Stop me if you've heard this one before. Another shitty start for Miami. Down 9-0. This team loves to start shitty and then expect thing to get magically better. Fire spoelstra please.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5497 on:** May 20, 2012, 03:56:32 PM »

If Lebron or Wade don't take it upon themselves to score like 40 or something, this game and this series is done. This is just like the Mavs last year.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #5498 on:** May 20, 2012, 03:58:23 PM »

The Big One doing everything by himself. Why did he leave Cleveland again?

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5499 on:** May 20, 2012, 04:00:38 PM »

Quote from: Smooth Groove on May 20, 2012, 03:58:23 PM

The Big One doing everything by himself. Why did he leave Cleveland again?

Because Wade is better than Mo Williams.

Last game and this first quarter not included

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5500 on:** May 20, 2012, 05:28:17 PM »

So sad it takes a desperate situation for them to pick up their intensity like this in the 3rd. Start the fucking game that way.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5501 on:** May 20, 2012, 05:53:08 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on May 20, 2012, 03:56:32 PM

If Lebron or Wade don't take it upon themselves to score like 40 or something, this game and this series is done. This is just like the Mavs last year.

Lebron has 37 and Wade has 30 right now. And there is still time left in the 4th.

bachikarn · « **Reply #5502 on:** May 20, 2012, 06:02:49 PM »

The elbow to the face helped Haslem remember how to shoot.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5503 on:** May 20, 2012, 06:04:10 PM »

Quote from: bachikarn on May 20, 2012, 06:02:49 PM

The elbow to the face helped Haslem remember how to shoot.

Pretty much.

He hit some huge shots and he's struggled with his jumper all season.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #5504 on:** May 20, 2012, 06:05:22 PM »

Start haslem! Lol

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5505 on:** May 20, 2012, 06:08:32 PM »

Lebron

40 pts.
17 rebs
9 ast

Wade also had a great game after starting out terrible

30 pts
9 reb
6 ast

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #5506 on:** May 20, 2012, 09:57:32 PM »

Just watched it.

- The Pacers do really well when they wall off the paint, which is very easy to do when they're playing 5 on 4 (at least - they can ignore Anthony/Turiaf and mostly Battier too) on defense. LeBron and Wade CAN still get to the basket against that kind of D, but it is really really hard, even for them. In the 2nd half, they were able to do it. Over the long haul...the Pacers definitely want to stick with that strategy. No-one on the Heat is going to beat them from the perimeter.

- Wade looked like a different player. If we want to blame Spoelstra for not motivating him the other night...maybe we should give him a little credit for motivating him tonight. It could be that Spoelstra has nothing to do with either performance of course.

- LeBron is the best player in basketball, let's not get crazy about Durant because he hit a bad 3 in crunchtime

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5507 on:** May 20, 2012, 10:04:23 PM »

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #5508 on:** May 20, 2012, 10:15:13 PM »

written and directed? Not bad!

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #5509 on:** May 21, 2012, 12:27:05 AM »

Everyone is praising the Staples staff for the quick changes between ice, Clippers floor and Lakers floor...but players are slipping all over the fucking place - Westbrook looked about 2 cm away from tearing something...

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5510 on:** May 21, 2012, 01:10:22 AM »

Sweep

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #5511 on:** May 21, 2012, 01:14:37 AM »

29 of their last 31, including end-of-season rest games.

The Clippers actually did about as well as that group probably could have. They certainly didn't roll over. But they were just out-gunned and out-classed. Fo', fo', fo' on the cards?

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5512 on:** May 21, 2012, 01:20:45 AM »

I'll take the Spurs in 5 or 6 over the Thunder. Let's go with 6 just to give the Thunder some credit.

etiolate · « **Reply #5513 on:** May 21, 2012, 01:22:18 AM »

I remember when that Tony Parker & Richard Jefferson for the 7th pick and Casspi rumor was going around before draft night. A lot of Kings fans were freaking out because they didn't want Tony Parker taking the ball out of Tyreke's hands.

I hate fans.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #5514 on:** May 21, 2012, 02:06:51 AM »

whoa shit, the Warriors are moving to SF?

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5515 on:** May 21, 2012, 01:17:21 PM »

PER Leaders for the Playoffs. I removed anybody who didn't make it past the first round

LeBron James, MI 31.80
Russell Westbrook, OKC   27.96
Kevin Durant, OKC    27.06
Tim Duncan, SA   26.38
Darren Collison, IND 25.62
Andrew Bynum, LAL    24.62
Kobe Bryant, LAL   24.20
James Harden, OKC 23.79
Rajon Rondo, BOS 23.51
Roy Hibbert, IND    23.04
Kevin Garnett, BOS   22.68
Eric Bledsoe, LAC   22.55
DeJuan Blair, SA 22.16
Dwyane Wade, MIA 21.81
Blake Griffin, LAC 21.22
Serge Ibaka, OKC   20.73
Gary Neal, SA    20.59
Chris Paul, LAC 20.46
Chris Bosh, MIA 20.31
Tony Parker, SA    19.90
Jodie Meeks, PHI 19.88

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #5516 on:** May 21, 2012, 01:29:06 PM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on May 21, 2012, 02:06:51 AM

whoa shit, the Warriors are moving to SF?

And the A's are trying to move to San Jose. Oakland owned.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #5517 on:** May 21, 2012, 02:54:15 PM »

I wish articles like this would get more attention:

http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2012/05/20/kobe-bryant-and-faith-as-small-as-a-mustard-seed/

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #5518 on:** May 21, 2012, 03:13:59 PM »

I'm now reading through that blog. Awesome stuff.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5519 on:** May 21, 2012, 04:45:07 PM »

Van Gundy and Otis Smith canned in Orlando.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7956244/orlando-magic-part-ways-coach-stan-van-gundy-general-manager-otis-smith

News:

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