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Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #6120 on:** June 09, 2012, 11:59:14 PM »

I think the Heat will beat OKC

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6121 on:** June 10, 2012, 12:04:14 AM »

I say 4-2 to the Thunder

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #6122 on:** June 10, 2012, 12:09:20 AM »

KJ and Hondo really gave it their all, but they just couldn't hold off Dwayne Johnson and the Miami Thunder.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #6123 on:** June 10, 2012, 12:27:29 AM »

glad I didn't watch todays game, would have driven me off a cliff

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #6124 on:** June 10, 2012, 01:06:46 AM »

4-2 Heat

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #6125 on:** June 10, 2012, 01:15:18 AM »

Glad the Heat won despite all my constant bitching about them all season long. If you asked me at the beginning of the season who I wanted to see in the finals it would have been thunder versus the Heat. My basketball brain says Thunder in 6 but I think the Heat matchup up better against them than they did the Spurs so I legit think the Heat have a chance.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #6126 on:** June 10, 2012, 12:14:16 PM »

When you look at PER during the playoffs, the Thunder and Heat match-up closely.

Lebron and Durant have been great.

James 31.25
Durant 27.97

Westbrook and Wade have essentially played the exact same
Wade 22.59
Westbrook 22.49

And Bosh and Ibaka although not similar as players sort of balance each other out.
Ibaka 20.45
Bosh 21.39

The problem is the Thunder have Harden (23.69) who has been the 5th best player per wise in the playoffs and the heat really have no answer here. The heat need a 4th guy to perform consistently in this series and they haven't shown they have that guy all year.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #6127 on:** June 10, 2012, 12:25:05 PM »

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #6128 on:** June 10, 2012, 02:53:20 PM »

Fucking Adande. He just did that pick so Bron looks like a choker when the Heat lose.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #6129 on:** June 10, 2012, 04:03:22 PM »

Let's get this finals started.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6130 on:** June 10, 2012, 07:38:15 PM »

Looks like a lot of folks are changing their positions again now that Bosh is looking good and LeBron choke concerns have eased. There may also be a large element of 'team I saw last looks best' there I suspect... but let's face it, it isn't THAT hard to beat Boston in the shape they were in. The best team the Heat faced was probably Indiana, whereas the Thunder have gone through the Mavs, Lakers and Spurs. Plus they have home court I think. I'm sticking with them!

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #6131 on:** June 10, 2012, 07:41:29 PM »

Actually, let OKC win. That way they can stop claiming Seattle's title in 1979 as their own.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6132 on:** June 10, 2012, 08:05:28 PM »

I gotta say, a lot of folks are coming out of the woodwork to bitch about this like it was some fresh wound, a lot of folks who weren't so keen to claim them as their own when they opened 3-26

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6133 on:** June 10, 2012, 08:27:03 PM »

I suppose I should add the proviso that if LeBron plays like in game 6 for 2 or 3 games, the Thunder has no chance. And I think he can guard Durant or Harden or even Westbrook a hell of a lot better than anyone on the Thunder can guard him. But how many times can he dominate offensively while also shutting down Durant etc? It seems more reasonable to just expect his normal playoff production, maybe a bit worse. Which is awesome but basically I think this one comes down to the Thunder's depth winning out.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #6134 on:** June 10, 2012, 09:57:28 PM »

The Thunder also have excellent coaching, whereas the Heat...

DJ_Tet · « **Reply #6135 on:** June 10, 2012, 11:00:43 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on June 10, 2012, 07:41:29 PM

Actually, let OKC win. That way they can stop claiming Seattle's title in 1979 as their own.

They aren't supposed to claim that title. The Sonic history supposedly stayed in Seattle so it pisses me off seeing ESPN credit them with the 1979 title.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #6136 on:** June 11, 2012, 03:30:12 AM »

pilonv1 · « **Reply #6137 on:** June 11, 2012, 06:39:37 AM »

Robert Swift really let himself go

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #6138 on:** June 12, 2012, 03:00:48 PM »

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/06/11/sports/basketball/nba-shot-analysis.html

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #6139 on:** June 12, 2012, 03:24:41 PM »

Quote from: DJ_Tet on June 10, 2012, 11:00:43 PM

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on June 10, 2012, 07:41:29 PM
Actually, let OKC win. That way they can stop claiming Seattle's title in 1979 as their own.

They aren't supposed to claim that title. The Sonic history supposedly stayed in Seattle so it pisses me off seeing ESPN credit them with the 1979 title.

OKC made copies of all the banners when they left Seattle. We got the originals and retain the rights to the name Seattle Supersonics, but apparently "share" the history. That was part of the settlement between Clay Bennet and the city of Seattle.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #6140 on:** June 12, 2012, 03:35:16 PM »

That's a bunch of bullshit

etiolate · « **Reply #6141 on:** June 12, 2012, 04:28:07 PM »

the whole okc/seattle thing is bullsheeeet

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6142 on:** June 12, 2012, 07:44:51 PM »

Shall we post scores for you, etiolate? Wouldn't want you to feel left out.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #6143 on:** June 12, 2012, 08:27:46 PM »

Heh, my favorite local sports show (Valenti and Foster) were having a debate over rigged sports, discussing the recent stories about some major Euro goalie throwing games and Pacquiao getting robbed in a blatant con job . One of the hosts kept claiming Boston was robbed in game 7 by the refs, and I thought of you Etiolet. There's no question Boston didn't get some calls they deserved, but I didn't get the impression the game was being tampered with by the refs.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #6144 on:** June 12, 2012, 08:29:56 PM »

Sigh.

Let's leave the stupid conspiracy shit out of the thread please. This ain't GAF.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6145 on:** June 12, 2012, 08:33:52 PM »

The Celtics get away with a ton of stuff every game, from Rondo's reaching to KG's moving/bumping screens...I have no complaints. They got beat by a more talented team with fresher legs.

I'm still not seeing any consensus about either this game or the Finals in general. Usually by this point, some favorite has emerged. My feeling is that the Heat are not quite as good as they were at their peak in the regular season, but the Thunder have actually improved, so the backwards-looking stats (which paint them as being basically dead even) are not completely reliable. I'm still going with the Thunder, due to depth and HCA. But it feels as close as any Finals I can remember.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #6146 on:** June 12, 2012, 08:37:01 PM »

One thing though: I find it very interesting that outside of the early coverage, there was very little discussion or debate over the Tim Donaghy stuff. No one touched it.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6147 on:** June 12, 2012, 08:41:07 PM »

That's alright, we can expose it all here, with the power of the Bore. It'll be fixed in no time once we train our giant brains upon it.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6148 on:** June 12, 2012, 08:51:05 PM »

Spoelstra

'not trying to be coy' - but won't say if Bosh is starting or not

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6149 on:** June 12, 2012, 09:03:59 PM »

Sometimes I forget how much bullshit hype you guys watching on broadcast TV must be subjected to. Just the few mins of bombastic hype they showed on League Pass just now was horrible. Everyone is primed to overreact like fucking crazy to this game, aren't they

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6150 on:** June 12, 2012, 09:08:51 PM »

lol, Spoelstra going back to the well with Riley's 'play like it's your last breath' speech

His biggest problem is that he really has zero charisma, just can't carry that shit off. If Doc Rivers said that line, players would be running through walls for him

pilonv1 · « **Reply #6151 on:** June 12, 2012, 09:14:07 PM »

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6152 on:** June 12, 2012, 09:19:45 PM »

'Westbrook is not Bosh!'

Yeah, I think if I subjected myself to that crap nightly I'd be apoplectic all the time. Which is of course the desired effect.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6153 on:** June 12, 2012, 09:28:13 PM »

Heat looking good but Mike Miller is the Walking Dead out there, sheesh. He got a steal, threw it to a teammate and then just stayed in the backcourt for the whole possession there

Spoelstra apparently has played LeBron-Wade-Bosh-Haslem-Battier for only 9 mins of the post-season so far - 4Q Game 7 vs Boston. My god. Are we all agreed that that is his best line-up... (given that Chalmers is redundant with two ballhandlers on court)?

pilonv1 · « **Reply #6154 on:** June 12, 2012, 09:39:43 PM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on June 12, 2012, 09:19:45 PM

'Westbrook is not Bosh!'

Yeah, I think if I subjected myself to that crap nightly I'd be apoplectic all the time. Which is of course the desired effect.

I listen to PTI daily, more for the banter than the content.

Here's another one for you cormac

http://deadspin.com/5916640/there-is-no-best-player-in-the-nba-the-problem-with-the-basketball-hero-industry

Quote

It would be fun to turn NBA commenters loose on a Rock-Scissors-Paper tournament sometime:

ROCK IS UNSTOPPABLE.

I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW ROCK CHOKED AGAINST PAPER.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT HOW SCISSORS BEAT PAPER, YOU HAVE TO THINK SCISSORS IS IN THE CONVERSATION FOR ALL-TIME GREATEST.

(Bill Simmons ceaselessly scribbles on the walls of his room with magic markers, readjusting his Pyramid of Rock and Scissors and Paper.)

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6155 on:** June 12, 2012, 09:43:51 PM »

The Thunder have a little bit of adjusting to do...they haven't seen defense like this yet, and it's making them look sloppy.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #6156 on:** June 12, 2012, 09:47:29 PM »

Nice of the ESPN guys to show us some love up in the Emerald City.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6157 on:** June 12, 2012, 09:48:05 PM »

Everyone likes to show they are old-school, and none more than JVG

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6158 on:** June 12, 2012, 09:50:30 PM »

only Fisher's finals experience enabled him to take and make that pull-up jumper in transition

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #6159 on:** June 12, 2012, 09:54:20 PM »

Wow I thought the series started on Thursday not today lol

Beezy · « **Reply #6160 on:** June 12, 2012, 10:15:06 PM »

leper pd

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6161 on:** June 12, 2012, 10:21:16 PM »

Any other team would see the shape Mike Miller is in, and just shut him down. The Heat are like HE IS TEH WOUNDED WARRIOR AND WE RESPECT THE FUCK OUT OF THAT, LET'S PLAY HIM FOREVER

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6162 on:** June 12, 2012, 10:22:00 PM »

What the hell happened to James Jones, by the way? Did he sleep with someone's mom or what?

pilonv1 · « **Reply #6163 on:** June 12, 2012, 10:23:45 PM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on June 12, 2012, 10:21:16 PM

Any other team would see the shape Mike Miller is in, and just shut him down. The Heat are like HE IS TEH WOUNDED WARRIOR AND WE RESPECT THE FUCK OUT OF THAT, LET'S PLAY HIM FOREVER

you can't slay Jesus Miller

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6164 on:** June 12, 2012, 10:27:43 PM »

If Perkins wasn't so good at setting screens, I'd say he should get zero minutes in this series. He has no-one to guard. But those screens are the key to getting the ball moving for OKC.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6165 on:** June 12, 2012, 10:28:40 PM »

Stoney is watching the whole game from under his bed or behind the sofa, got no time for NBA-Bore

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6166 on:** June 12, 2012, 10:42:22 PM »

I think I just saw Perkins try to drive on LeBron. I could swear that just happened

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #6167 on:** June 12, 2012, 10:43:55 PM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on June 12, 2012, 10:28:40 PM

Stoney is watching the whole game from under his bed or behind the sofa, got no time for NBA-Bore

I was playing 360. I'm off now.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6168 on:** June 12, 2012, 10:45:06 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on June 12, 2012, 10:43:55 PM

Quote from: Cormacaroni on June 12, 2012, 10:28:40 PM
Stoney is watching the whole game from under his bed or behind the sofa, got no time for NBA-Bore

I was playing 360. I'm off now.

true Miami fan

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #6169 on:** June 12, 2012, 10:45:33 PM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on June 12, 2012, 10:45:06 PM

Quote from: Stoney Mason on June 12, 2012, 10:43:55 PM
Quote from: Cormacaroni on June 12, 2012, 10:28:40 PM
Stoney is watching the whole game from under his bed or behind the sofa, got no time for NBA-Bore

I was playing 360. I'm off now.

true Miami fan

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6170 on:** June 12, 2012, 10:45:46 PM »

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #6171 on:** June 12, 2012, 11:18:48 PM »

Miami can't stop the thunder offense.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #6172 on:** June 12, 2012, 11:20:39 PM »

Coincidence that the Thunder came back once Fisher came in the game? I think not

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6173 on:** June 12, 2012, 11:21:31 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on June 12, 2012, 11:20:39 PM

Coincidence that the Thunder came back once Fisher came in the game? I think not

yep, taking Perkins out really helped them

benjipwns · « **Reply #6174 on:** June 12, 2012, 11:29:30 PM »

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6175 on:** June 12, 2012, 11:31:04 PM »

exact same face Riley always has

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #6176 on:** June 12, 2012, 11:33:13 PM »

Well, that'll do it, looks like.

Edit: That no-look pass by Durant was awesome.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6177 on:** June 12, 2012, 11:35:22 PM »

LeBron has scored a third of his team's points, and he'll get shit for Wade, who's shooting in the 20s

I know what would work - if their coach told them to 'Stay the course'! Yeah, that's what they need

benjipwns · « **Reply #6178 on:** June 12, 2012, 11:43:18 PM »

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Skip Bayless ‏@RealSkipBayless
That clinches it: Kevin Durant is definitely better than LeBron. Durant alone might be too much for the Heat. Tonite, he was just too good

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6179 on:** June 12, 2012, 11:46:00 PM »

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