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Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6720 on:** June 28, 2012, 08:32:15 PM »

Rivers at 10 seems like a reach...and where does he play with Gordon there? Microwave role? Or are they going to trade this?

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6721 on:** June 28, 2012, 08:34:10 PM »

Monty Williams apparently saying he thinks Rivers can play PG. Hmm. I hear he has hands of sheerest velcro when not pointed toward the basket so that could be a problem

etiolate · « **Reply #6722 on:** June 28, 2012, 08:47:00 PM »

Thomas Robinson was a BPA pick that doesn't help the team win much. It's hard to criticize, but hard to like.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6723 on:** June 28, 2012, 08:50:00 PM »

They need to trade some forwards, don't they?

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6724 on:** June 28, 2012, 09:08:41 PM »

Royce White to the Rockets, like it. McHale seems like exactly the right coach for a bright kid with anxiety issues.

benjipwns · « **Reply #6725 on:** June 28, 2012, 09:17:42 PM »

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Cavs sending 24, 33 and 34 to Mavs for Tyler Zeller

etiolate · « **Reply #6726 on:** June 28, 2012, 09:18:34 PM »

White seems pretty old school in style.

The Kings need to trade a lot of redundant parts. They still have no starter at SF and rely on shaky combo guards to run the offense when Thomas is not on the floor. Looking at 82games, their effective FG% dropped like 100 points anytime Thomas wasn't on the floor. Since they don't play any defense, if they aren't clicking in the full court or half court offense, they have major issues.

Robinson doesn't really help with any of the team's problems. He's talented, but I am not sure where he fits in. Cousins, Evans and Thornton all want their shots.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6727 on:** June 28, 2012, 09:29:26 PM »

Celtics seem destined to pick Sullinger...Tommy Heinsohn will love calling him 'Sully' at least. With Wilcox hopefully coming back, they can possibly trade high on Bass.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6728 on:** June 28, 2012, 09:39:42 PM »

Fab Melo too. More slow-down old man ball for the Celtics next season, it looks like.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6729 on:** June 28, 2012, 09:48:22 PM »

Pretty decent big man bench for the Cs now, even if they mostly just play enough minutes in the regular season to keep KG fresh for the playoffs, that's a win.

The problem is that Pierce really needs a quality back-up in the worst way, and it's not clear they can re-sign Jeff Green (who I don't even like but hey).

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6730 on:** June 28, 2012, 09:53:40 PM »

Perry Jones is SURELY worth a pick in this range, wtf

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6731 on:** June 28, 2012, 10:05:10 PM »

Jeez, the Heat are gonna end up with Perry Jones aren't they

etiolate · « **Reply #6732 on:** June 28, 2012, 10:22:55 PM »

Steal for OKC.

I am hoping Jeffrey Taylor lasts into where the Kings pick in the 2nd round.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6733 on:** June 28, 2012, 10:26:10 PM »

I should have known Riley wouldn't pick Jones

Great pick for the Thunder though, since it gives them some leverage over Perk and Ibaka if Jones pans out...it sure sounds like he would be a better fit for the Thunder's style than Perk if he buys in

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6734 on:** June 28, 2012, 10:36:54 PM »

Like Marcus Teague for the Bulls as well. By all accounts pretty similar to big brother Jeff. He should get plenty of minutes with Rose out and put up numbers.

Mandark · « **Reply #6735 on:** June 28, 2012, 11:11:08 PM »

Watching the draft with a friend, we were going through the exact same "a few more picks and he might fall to us..." routine with Jones that we did with DeJuan Blair a few years back. Almost glad he didn't fall to the Wizards, cause it spared me the pain of seeing them pass on him (which they did with Blair, selling the pick so they could afford to sign Fabricio Oberto).

Hopefully Beal's legit, and not one of those shooters who can't shoot.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #6736 on:** June 28, 2012, 11:12:43 PM »

I predict Rivers will be a bust. When has average ability and superstar delusions ever turn out well in the NBA?

How many big white guys is Indiana going to draft?

Beezy · « **Reply #6737 on:** June 28, 2012, 11:23:55 PM »

Kostas Papawhatta?

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #6738 on:** June 28, 2012, 11:35:12 PM »

Quote from: Beezy on June 28, 2012, 11:23:55 PM

Kostas Papawhatta?

my buddy on facebook:

"the knicks drafted the owner of the [local] diner"

pilonv1 · « **Reply #6739 on:** June 28, 2012, 11:40:25 PM »

So happy with the Warriors draft.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #6740 on:** June 28, 2012, 08:31:33 PM »

Quote from: Beezy on June 28, 2012, 11:23:55 PM

Kostas Papawhatta?

sorta related, Kosta Koufus on the Nuggets is from my home town. Played against my high school in varsity basketball and all of us in the know HATED HIS FUCKING GUTS. Treated everyone on his team like shit. Even Lebron hated him.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #6741 on:** June 28, 2012, 08:36:25 PM »

Poor Festus. Playing for the Warriors now :'(

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #6742 on:** June 28, 2012, 08:56:52 PM »

Andre Drummond to the Pistons, nice. I hate the "upside" label but he definitely has it. He had a solid freshman season and proved to be a defensive force in one of the best conferences in college basketball, at one of the best programs. He's a good passer and played very well against Fab Melo/Syracuse in their last regular season match up. I don't think he's going to put up big offensive numbers, but he'll compliment Monroe (who's also a good post passer) well.

My biggest concerns: this is a guy who straight up dominated in high school, yet didn't really play "great" in college. He had a solid freshman year, but you can tell he's rather raw in some areas. Plus he takes games off which is a bad sign, especially in big guys.

And he had a horrible game in the tournament that fucked up my bracket

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #6743 on:** June 28, 2012, 09:13:17 PM »

So I guess the Mavericks drafted some 7' white guy that was projected to go in the 2nd round. I'm sure that'll probably work out for them.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6744 on:** June 28, 2012, 09:16:07 PM »

They traded it straight away, to the Cavs I think. Not sure what their plan for this year was, unless it was to save money.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #6745 on:** June 28, 2012, 09:23:59 PM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on June 28, 2012, 09:16:07 PM

They traded it straight away, to the Cavs I think. Not sure what their plan for this year was, unless it was to save money.

No I mean the other guy that picked up with the Cavs pick.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #6746 on:** June 28, 2012, 09:52:39 PM »

Mavs ended up with Jared Cunningham (24), Bernard James (32) and Jae Crowder (33).

Zeller went 17th and was traded to Cleveland, but there had been talk of him going as high as #7 to Golden State.

benjipwns · « **Reply #6747 on:** June 29, 2012, 12:15:27 PM »

Beezy · « **Reply #6748 on:** June 29, 2012, 12:27:00 PM »

benjipwns · « **Reply #6749 on:** June 30, 2012, 10:40:42 AM »

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Celtics to re-sign forward Kevin Garnett to a three-year, $34 million deal, sources tell Yahoo! Sports.

Seems like it could be a bit steep.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #6750 on:** June 30, 2012, 12:35:20 PM »

Quote from: pilonv1 on June 28, 2012, 09:52:39 PM

Mavs ended up with Jared Cunningham (24), Bernard James (32) and Jae Crowder (33).

Zeller went 17th and was traded to Cleveland, but there had been talk of him going as high as #7 to Golden State.

Haha, whoops, yeah I was looking at the wrong guy.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6751 on:** June 30, 2012, 08:59:02 PM »

KG back to the Celtics at a fair price (34 mil for 3 years), 3 more years of not-rebuilding and likely 2nd round exits. On balance I'll take it

benjipwns · « **Reply #6752 on:** June 30, 2012, 11:00:48 PM »

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Brandon Jennings ‏@BRAND0NJENNINGS

it's hard to find a woman when you talented and black....

benjipwns · « **Reply #6753 on:** June 30, 2012, 11:26:06 PM »

omg

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8118159/sources-dwight-howard-tells-orlando-magic-gm-wants-trade-brooklyn-nets

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Howard picked up the option for the final year of his contract with Orlando on March 15. But since then, he has grown increasingly disgruntled with the organization, even telling people close to him that he feels the Magic blackmailed him into signing the "opt-in" clause.

Howard shared his feelings of being blackmailed by the Magic with the NBA Players Association last week, sources said. He -- either himself or through his representatives -- approached the union wondering if he might have a legal complaint against the club.

The goal of such a complaint would be to eliminate his "opt-in," thereby allowing Howard to become a free agent this summer.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #6754 on:** June 30, 2012, 11:54:49 PM »

Jesus Christ, they have to fucking trade him. JUST DO IT FOR THE LOVE OF FUCK.

benjipwns · « **Reply #6755 on:** July 01, 2012, 12:08:24 AM »

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K.C Johnson ‏@KCJHoop
Hearing Rockets prepared to offer Omer Asik in the $8 million range annually.

welp, so much for the new CBA

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6756 on:** July 01, 2012, 12:14:33 AM »

The Howard thing is laughable, has been for months. Why the FUCK did he opt-in?

benjipwns · « **Reply #6757 on:** July 01, 2012, 12:16:20 AM »

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Eric Gordon, the New Orleans Hornets' restricted free agent, is seeking a max, 4-year, $58 million deal, sources say.

Going to be a great offseason, I can tell.

etiolate · « **Reply #6758 on:** July 01, 2012, 12:21:44 AM »

Quote from: benjipwns on July 01, 2012, 12:08:24 AM

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K.C Johnson ‏@KCJHoop
Hearing Rockets prepared to offer Omer Asik in the $8 million range annually.

welp, so much for the new CBA

Kevin McHale's big man orphanage.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #6759 on:** July 01, 2012, 01:15:42 AM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on July 01, 2012, 12:14:33 AM

The Howard thing is laughable, has been for months. Why the FUCK did he opt-in?

He must have the dumbest people in the world advising him

benjipwns · « **Reply #6760 on:** July 01, 2012, 01:18:18 AM »

A few days ago there was that story that he hasn't talked to his agent in a while, it's his "inner circle" making decisions.

etiolate · « **Reply #6761 on:** July 01, 2012, 04:03:37 AM »

I get the feeling that may mean he's been asking his belly button what to do.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #6762 on:** July 01, 2012, 08:16:31 AM »

Quote from: benjipwns on July 01, 2012, 01:18:18 AM

A few days ago there was that story that he hasn't talked to his agent in a while, it's his "inner circle" making decisions.

Which means he's even dumber than the people advising him.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #6763 on:** July 01, 2012, 03:58:27 PM »

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8119209/2012-nba-free-agency-portland-trail-blazers-offer-roy-hibbert-max-rfa-contract-sources-say

Interesting. Portland offers Hibbert four-year, $58 million contract.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6764 on:** July 01, 2012, 07:33:37 PM »

I'd say he's easily worth it. Portland should really just force Aldridge to play center full-time though. That's the way the league is headed anyway, and they are very tough with those line-ups.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6765 on:** July 01, 2012, 07:35:34 PM »

Not that Portland will get him - Indiana can and surely will match.

benjipwns · « **Reply #6766 on:** July 01, 2012, 08:12:12 PM »

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Ken Berger: Source confirms Rockets have agreed to a three-year, $25.1M offer sheet with restricted free agent Omer Asik of the Bulls.

Third year will be near $15 million.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #6767 on:** July 01, 2012, 08:13:39 PM »

etiolate · « **Reply #6768 on:** July 01, 2012, 08:23:23 PM »

I seriously don't know what Morey is going to do with all those PFs and Cs, or what his aim is in stockpiling them.

Are they still trading Lowry?

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #6769 on:** July 01, 2012, 09:26:35 PM »

The plan was either to move up in the draft or trade for Dwight Howard. Back-up plan is having a bunch of depth at that position. Asik is a defensive force - 25m seems on the low end.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #6770 on:** July 01, 2012, 11:48:03 PM »

It's funny the difference between winning a title and losing a title. Last year I was depressed and fucking didn't anticipate the new season starting at all. I wanted as much time distance as possible especially with how they lost it. This year I wish the fucking new season would start tomorrow!

I wish we could get Nash but that seems like a pipe dream now. The money he is being offered is way beyond anything you would pass on just to win a title. I'm not even sure we get Ray Allen. A lot of teams will be able to offer more money although I think he would be a great fit for the Heat and I hope he takes the offer.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #6771 on:** July 02, 2012, 05:42:12 PM »

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8124182/brooklyn-nets-land-joe-johnson-trade-atlanta-hawks-sources-say

guess who won't be getting Dwight Howard!

pilonv1 · « **Reply #6772 on:** July 02, 2012, 08:21:13 PM »

Danny Ferry is a genius

benjipwns · « **Reply #6773 on:** July 02, 2012, 08:38:58 PM »

Danny Ferry doing work:

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The Atlanta Hawks are closing in on their second significant trade of this early offseason, agreeing in principle Monday to trade forward Marvin Williams for Utah Jazz point guard Devin Harris, according to sources briefed on the discussions.

The deal, which is pending league approval, would mean that new Hawks general manager Danny Ferry will have shed Atlanta's two most onerous contracts -- Joe Johnson and Williams -- in his first week-plus on the job.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #6774 on:** July 02, 2012, 08:42:39 PM »

D Will should go to Dallas, even if it's for less money. If he truly wants to win, staying in Brooklyn is not feasible now. There's no way they can get Dwight Howard now

etiolate · « **Reply #6775 on:** July 02, 2012, 08:55:07 PM »

I am willing to accept that an NBA player is dumb enough to think he can win a ring with Joe Johnson's contract and GWallace rather than going to an established team with a guy like Dirk.

benjipwns · « **Reply #6776 on:** July 02, 2012, 09:13:59 PM »

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David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt

Subtract another $1.5M RT @NetsDaily Hearing Farmar will be bought out for $1.5M as soon as deal is done. He preferred buyout to opt-out.

Ferry the megawizard.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #6777 on:** July 02, 2012, 09:15:05 PM »

STOP THAT SHIT DANNY FERRY I DON'T HAVE TIME TO KEEP UP WITH THE NBA TOO

Seriously, this is good news

edit- holy fuck completely missed the Marvin news, Danny Ferry am Jesus total confirmed

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #6778 on:** July 02, 2012, 09:44:23 PM »

Ferry used to be the Spurs GM right? I think I remember him being quite good there too

Meanwhile in Detroit

benjipwns · « **Reply #6779 on:** July 02, 2012, 09:47:16 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on July 02, 2012, 09:44:23 PM

Ferry used to be the Spurs GM right? I think I remember him being quite good there too

Cavaliers. 2005-10.

He spent some time in the front office of the Spurs but wasn't ever higher than RC and Pop in the chain of command.

News:

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