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Eric P · « **Reply #7320 on:** December 10, 2012, 08:10:02 PM »

Harden is out.

so Spurs by 40?

oh god why am i going to watch this happen again?

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #7321 on:** December 10, 2012, 08:19:28 PM »

Heat-Hawks looks like more of a game!

Might be fun to see what Lin can do if he gets the ball occasionally. He's been seriously marginalized this season. Then again he can't shoot or finish the way he did last season, presumably due to the injury.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #7322 on:** December 10, 2012, 09:02:53 PM »

Rockets are kicking ass actually...good to see Lin make some shots

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #7323 on:** December 10, 2012, 10:30:57 PM »

still a great game! OT Alert!

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #7324 on:** December 10, 2012, 11:15:38 PM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on December 10, 2012, 09:02:53 PM

Rockets are kicking ass actually...good to see Lin make some shots

I was just going to make a post last night about how basically the Knicks have gotten the better of the deal so far. Felton has been playing a lot better than lin so far in the season.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #7325 on:** December 10, 2012, 11:53:59 PM »

The comparison is badly skewed by 1) Lin coming off injury and suddenly having to give the ball to Harden and play a weird role; and 2) Felton recovering from being a fatass and being given the keys to the NYC offense (Melo still uses a lot of possessions but he's no longer a black hole). Reality is both teams are happy with who they have.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #7326 on:** December 11, 2012, 02:39:07 AM »

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #7327 on:** December 11, 2012, 02:41:32 AM »

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #7328 on:** December 11, 2012, 02:42:12 AM »

Mark Jackson is coaching GS right? Seems like one of the few tv analysts/forme players who is having some success as a coach, although admittedly I don't follow NBA basketball much

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benjipwns · « **Reply #7329 on:** December 11, 2012, 02:48:46 AM »

Not NBA related really but still pretty solid work:

pilonv1 · « **Reply #7330 on:** December 11, 2012, 06:13:44 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on December 11, 2012, 02:42:12 AM

Mark Jackson is coaching GS right? Seems like one of the few tv analysts/forme players who is having some success as a coach,

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although admittedly I don't follow NBA basketball much

The team is succeeding in spite of him.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #7331 on:** December 11, 2012, 09:35:14 PM »

Lakers starting to get on a roll. Hopefully the streak will be at least 10 games.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #7332 on:** December 11, 2012, 09:46:15 PM »

lolkers

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #7333 on:** December 11, 2012, 09:50:29 PM »

LOL at LA sports radio talking about 70 wins before season began

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #7334 on:** December 11, 2012, 09:51:36 PM »

I think the whole team is just tired of doing Kobe's dirty work and being his scapegoats

Everyone looks lackluster when he's taking his 25 shots

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #7335 on:** December 11, 2012, 10:45:59 PM »

Blake is on form tonight...try to catch the highlights at least. Dunkin' on errrbody

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #7336 on:** December 11, 2012, 11:24:23 PM »

Lakers just baffle me. I logically understand the issues of that team. Lack of depth, outside shooting, etc. But they still shouldn't be this bad. This seems far worse than the way the Heat started off that first year.

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #7337 on:** December 12, 2012, 12:00:46 AM »

I knew the Cavs were going to win tonight if Irving played. Shame I missed it.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #7338 on:** December 12, 2012, 12:08:36 AM »

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #7339 on:** December 12, 2012, 02:10:33 AM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on December 11, 2012, 11:24:23 PM

Lakers just baffle me. I logically understand the issues of that team. Lack of depth, outside shooting, etc. But they still shouldn't be this bad. This seems far worse than the way the Heat started off that first year.

Maybe the one the press hasn't really focused on yet is terrible, terrible defense on the perimeter despite Mr Perennial All NBA Defensive Team there. Kobe hasn't guarded anyone in a good 5 years, Morris hasn't a clue, Nash won't help, and Dwight, while he can protect the rim, isn't agile or fast enough to get out to the perimeter then recover.

But I agree. It seems like there is some negative synergy that is making them even worse than you'd expect a team with just Kobe and half a good center to be.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #7340 on:** December 12, 2012, 02:12:31 AM »

Dwight looks pretty unhappy

no touches + no wins= no Superman?

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #7341 on:** December 12, 2012, 02:16:33 AM »

I think he is discovering that SVG was a pussycat compared to Kobe

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #7342 on:** December 12, 2012, 02:50:11 PM »

The two most annoying people in the universe.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #7343 on:** December 12, 2012, 03:29:04 PM »

If you put LeBron on that team they'd be the best team in the west. Seems like more evidence that Kobe doesn't make his team mates better. It also tells me Dwight Howard is a joke who needs to go to a big man camp.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #7344 on:** December 12, 2012, 03:57:44 PM »

nba-gaf is delicious to read when the lakers sucks

when lebron wins a second championship this year it'll be even more delicious

etiolate · « **Reply #7345 on:** December 12, 2012, 04:05:29 PM »

i get the feeling its the laker fans that make certain people hate nba-gaf

Anyways, I didn't really understand the D'Antoni system with a roster that old and that lacking in a bench. Even wtih Nash, I'm not sure how they keep the pace up.

Also, Alvin Gentry has already gotten a vote of confidence from Suns ownership. That's normally a death kiss for a coach. I think he's a damned good coach though. Probably better for the Lakers than D'Antoni is. I would love him on the Kings.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #7346 on:** December 12, 2012, 05:45:23 PM »

no, I think he's suggesting adding lebron there instead of dwight

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #7347 on:** December 12, 2012, 07:13:35 PM »

No I'm talking about replacing Kobe with LeBron

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #7348 on:** December 12, 2012, 07:43:17 PM »

oh nvm then

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #7349 on:** December 12, 2012, 08:41:11 PM »

Well, I suppose we could just totally ignore the entire history of the Cleveland Cavaliers with LeBron, and the fact that he's way better now and can play any position or do anything you need him to on either end of the court

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #7350 on:** December 12, 2012, 08:43:30 PM »

All a moot point anyway of course. Pau is coming back, Nash is coming back, they still got the best of the deal by far with Dwight vs Bynum this season...all they need to do is focus hard on building some kind of bench before the trade deadline and they'll be at worst a terrifying 8th seed.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #7351 on:** December 12, 2012, 09:14:30 PM »

oh shut the fuck up shinobi

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #7352 on:** December 12, 2012, 09:23:52 PM »

it's just that no-one really gives a shit?

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #7353 on:** December 12, 2012, 09:34:44 PM »

apropos of nothing - Did anyone else actually hear Jeff Van Gundy say during the loss to the Knicks that the Nets 'really missed Brook Lopez's interior defense and shot-blocking'?

I seriously did a spit-take, although Lopez has improved somewhat in those areas this year.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #7354 on:** December 12, 2012, 09:44:38 PM »

don't forget Kobe's clutch gene and willingness to take the big shots

u can't quantify that

pilonv1 · « **Reply #7355 on:** December 12, 2012, 10:36:26 PM »

sup Miami

Draymond Green yall

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #7356 on:** December 12, 2012, 11:19:34 PM »

Quote from: pilonv1 on December 12, 2012, 10:36:26 PM

sup Miami

Draymond Green yall

Loved watching him at MSU

pilonv1 · « **Reply #7357 on:** December 12, 2012, 11:32:25 PM »

He's quickly becoming my favourite Warrior. Even ahead of Klay.

It used to be Biedrins before Nellie beat the confidence out of him

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #7358 on:** December 13, 2012, 03:01:49 PM »

Lakers versus Knicks on TNT tonight.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #7359 on:** December 13, 2012, 03:58:26 PM »

oh god I hope melo drops like 40 right over kobe

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #7360 on:** December 13, 2012, 04:04:10 PM »

I just hate the lakers, much like I hate the yankees. seeing them flounder is the greatest of schadenfreude

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #7361 on:** December 13, 2012, 06:46:51 PM »

I respect Kobe as a great b-ball player at times but he's certainly not one of the superstars I root for in the league. Way too arrogant for my tastes. But hey, I like Lebron and the Heat so glass houses and all that.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #7362 on:** December 13, 2012, 08:16:12 PM »

I was a Kobe fan back when he came off the bench, but he kinda lost me after the Shaq flap (not that Shaq was innocent of course). He has never been able to convince me subsequently that he cared about winning half as much as about looking good and bathing in individual glory. He also throws people under the bus way too often to be any kind of good teammate or leader IMHO. He has been fun as hell to watch for a long time though, love to root against him.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #7363 on:** December 13, 2012, 08:22:39 PM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on December 13, 2012, 08:16:12 PM

He also throws people under the bus way too often

this

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #7364 on:** December 13, 2012, 08:35:26 PM »

Lakers defense.

How can you be so bad on defense with Dwight Howard...

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #7365 on:** December 13, 2012, 08:42:10 PM »

Carmelo 22 points in the first quarter.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #7366 on:** December 13, 2012, 08:42:47 PM »

Quote from: AWESOM-O on December 13, 2012, 08:34:40 PM

If I have to say something nice about LeBron, it's that he's resisted the temptation to throw guys like Drew Gooden and Daniel Gibson under the bus, even though he easily could.

because everyone loves it so much when you respond to Kobe hate with LeBron hate

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #7367 on:** December 13, 2012, 08:43:27 PM »

ugh, missed all the games so far. Is the Knicks one what I should be watching? Without spoiling if possible?

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #7368 on:** December 13, 2012, 08:45:09 PM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on December 13, 2012, 08:43:27 PM

ugh, missed all the games so far. Is the Knicks one what I should be watching? Without spoiling if possible?

Without saying the score I think you can tell how its going so far by the posts.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #7369 on:** December 13, 2012, 08:47:40 PM »

Melo good god

Howard

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #7370 on:** December 13, 2012, 08:57:25 PM »

If this game continues at this pace, it wouldn't shock me if they fired D'Antoni after the game and I'm not exaggerating. This is embarrassing shit right now. The Lakers don't even look like a basketball team in this game.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #7371 on:** December 13, 2012, 09:07:57 PM »

I think Dan Tony will "walk" before he gets fired.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #7372 on:** December 13, 2012, 09:14:22 PM »

Knicks rebounding is bad. They give up a lot of offensive rebounds.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #7373 on:** December 13, 2012, 09:15:21 PM »

Luckily the Lakers don't do anything well

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #7374 on:** December 13, 2012, 09:22:48 PM »

watching a stream, it's halftime. Ayo how has Shaq worked out with TNT? Back when I had cable I loved the chemistry Charles and the gang had, and I always assumed someone like Shaq could be added and fit perfectly. But I haven't seen any TNT basketball since he joined. Is it working well? I remember hearing it started not-so-good

pilonv1 · « **Reply #7375 on:** December 13, 2012, 09:23:14 PM »

Shaq is turrible on TNT and I don't even watch it that much. Webber was so much better.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #7376 on:** December 13, 2012, 09:24:27 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on December 13, 2012, 09:22:48 PM

watching a stream, it's halftime. Ayo how has Shaq worked out with TNT? Back when I had cable I loved the chemistry Charles and the gang had, and I always assumed someone like Shaq could be added and fit perfectly. But I haven't seen any TNT basketball since he joined. Is it working well? I remember hearing it started not-so-good

In general I don't think TNT is as good as it use to be and that includes Charles but yeah Shaq isn't really a good fit.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #7377 on:** December 13, 2012, 09:25:32 PM »

I said wow. Amazing how far the stat heads have come in basketball.

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Grizzlies hire John Hollinger
Updated: December 13, 2012, 7:30 PM ET

John Hollinger, a fixture of ESPN.com's coverage of the NBA for the past eight seasons and one of the leaders in basketball's rising statistical analysis movement in the past decade, is leaving his role as a columnist to become the vice president of basketball operations for the Memphis Grizzlies.

Best known for hatching the formula behind every player's Player Efficiency Rating (PER) -- which attempts to quantify player performance through the use of an all-in-one rating -- Hollinger will begin work as a senior executive in the Grizzlies' basketball department next week.

"It's incredibly difficult to leave ESPN, but the chance to work for an NBA team and the Grizzlies' new ownership was an irresistible opportunity," Hollinger said Thursday.

Hollinger was recruited to the Grizzlies by new controlling owner Robert Pera and CEO/managing partner Jason Levien, who have made upgrading Memphis' analytics department one of their front-office priorities. The Grizzlies also hired Stu Lash on Thursday as their director of player personnel and basketball development.

"We are thrilled to have John and Stu join the Grizzlies," Levien said in a release. "Both of these individuals will provide innovative and unique perspectives that bolster the organization's future."

Sources close to the situation told ESPN.com that the move won't change the status of Grizzlies general manager Chris Wallace but added that Hollinger will be a "prominent voice in the team's front office beyond providing statistical analysis."

Hollinger, 41, founded the website "Alleyoop" in 1996 to launch his online career as a basketball sabermetrician and authored a series of books originally known as the "Pro Basketball Prospectus" and later titled "Pro Basketball Forecast."

He went on to work for The Oregonian newspaper's online site (OregonLive.com) and served as the NBA editor of Sports Illustrated's online site (SI.com) before joining ESPN.com in February 2005.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #7378 on:** December 13, 2012, 09:29:21 PM »

naff · « **Reply #7379 on:** December 13, 2012, 09:36:55 PM »

Poor Lakers, lot of my friends are either Celtics or Lakers fans. Neither are really enjoying this years league. I'm a filthy turncoat, not particularly into any one franchise. This year I guess I'm most into Thunder, Jazz and Spurs

haven't been franchise loyal since I was a kid and collected Lakers cards. Never even been to the states so it always felt a bit fake

Quote from: Cormacaroni on December 13, 2012, 08:43:27 PM

ugh, missed all the games so far. Is the Knicks one what I should be watching? Without spoiling if possible?

Only a few on today. Will prob watch some Spurs - Blazers later if I have time, can't imagine Bobcats - Hawks was very good. Spurs - Jazz was good yesterday too

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