Author Topic: The NBA thread (Read 1519590 times)

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #12600 on:** May 18, 2014, 04:23:02 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on May 18, 2014, 04:11:04 PM

Grantland had an article a couple weeks ago:
http://grantland.com/features/greg-oden-miami-heat-nba-playoffs-how-to-be-a-benchwarmer/

I don't blame him. I blame the Heat. This experiment just never worked and they should have realized it and made some point about doing something about it a long time ago.

They match up poorly against the Pacers inside. It's been a problem for years. And they just either ignore it or do a longshot move like Oden to try to fix it.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #12601 on:** May 18, 2014, 04:26:18 PM »

I kind of secretly hope the Heat lose this series so Spoelstra gets exposed a bit. This is the perfect series that will actually test him to make changes during a game or series. Something I think he is terrible at.

benjipwns · « **Reply #12602 on:** May 18, 2014, 04:33:00 PM »

The Heat are just coaxing titles out of having the best player in the league while the parts around him fall apart, Lakers did the same thing with Shaq/Kobe. The Bulls to some extent did the same.

Battier and figuring out the small ball lineup got them the first ring, and I think Allen and Andersen gave them enough boost last year. I thought Beasley and Oden could provide a little spark this year and there was good reason to play them both regular minutes during the season (especially after the Pacers shot out to first) but they seem almost afraid to change things up too much. They had this problem somewhat in 2011 when Spoelstra didn't shorten the rotation and stop playing shitty players in the playoffs until Haslem came back.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #12603 on:** May 18, 2014, 04:34:31 PM »

Great first half for the Pacers. Took advantage of every Miami weakness. Soft interior D. The over-reliance on scrambling on defense that leaves 3 point shooters wide open.

The only bad thing I would say is that for how well they played they are only up 10 which is just a decent run.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #12604 on:** May 18, 2014, 05:03:11 PM »

Indy dominating. Killing Miami inside. Still no adjustments from Miami.

El Babua · « **Reply #12605 on:** May 18, 2014, 05:09:38 PM »

Bring out Oden and Beasley!

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #12606 on:** May 18, 2014, 05:25:42 PM »

Decent mini-run for the Heat to end the quarter but as a team they are still getting smashed in all aspects of the game so far. Doesn't bode well for a miracle 4th quarter.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #12607 on:** May 18, 2014, 05:49:09 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on May 15, 2014, 11:38:35 PM

No, Stoney. Let's stop pretending the Pacers will be able to beat the Heat. Heat just beat the best team record wise in the East since January in five games. The Heat may be flawed but they step up. The Pacers are shook and look legit awful. Heat in 5. If it goes to seven games I will ice my dick for an entire day.

etiolate · « **Reply #12608 on:** May 18, 2014, 07:03:35 PM »

i legit enjoy crazy lebron stalker puddles

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #12609 on:** May 18, 2014, 07:10:40 PM »

Miami still has the capability of winning this series. But if you didn't see this potentially coming, you haven't watched Miami play Indy all year. They are a nightmare for Miami.

They make Hibbert look amazing no matter how he is playing. They made Bosh look useless as he is out on the perimeter hoisting three's or inside getting overpowered by any of the Pacers bigs. They have been built specifically to give Miami fits. And Lebron and Wade and Allen actually played good games today. That is what was especially humbling about that loss. They can't point to Lebron and Wade and say they didn't have good games.

Spoelstra will actually have to coach and make adjustments. Which is something more than just standing in a huddle and talking about grinding.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #12610 on:** May 18, 2014, 07:14:55 PM »

Every single year you make that complaint about Spoelstra, and every single year you should have enough proof to realize that Spoelstra is one of the best game-to-game coaches in the league. He's not fantastic for on-the-fly adjustments, but once he has tape to analyze, he will make the proper adjustments. Don't be surprised if Miami absolutely destroys Indiana next game -- and for once give Spoelstra credit.

Also, I wouldn't bank on Indiana getting amazing games from Grant Hill, CJ Watson, Stephenson, and Luis Scola again.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #12611 on:** May 18, 2014, 07:18:31 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on May 18, 2014, 07:14:55 PM

Every single year you make that complaint about Spoelstra, and every single year you should have enough proof to realize that Spoelstra is one of the best game-to-game coaches in the league. He's not fantastic for on-the-fly adjustments, but once he has tape to analyze, he will make the proper adjustments. Don't be surprised if Miami absolutely destroys Indiana next game -- and for once give Spoelstra credit.

Also, I wouldn't bank on Indiana getting amazing games from Grant Hill, CJ Watson, Stephenson, and Luis Scola again.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #12612 on:** May 18, 2014, 08:11:21 PM »

oh i mad

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #12613 on:** May 18, 2014, 10:27:04 PM »

What if Indy played like shit up to this point specifically to lull the Heat into a false sense of confidence

Beezy · « **Reply #12614 on:** May 18, 2014, 11:58:26 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on May 18, 2014, 07:14:55 PM

Also, I wouldn't bank on Indiana getting amazing games from Grant Hill, CJ Watson, Stephenson, and Luis Scola again.

me neither

benjipwns · « **Reply #12615 on:** May 18, 2014, 11:58:44 PM »

Indiana is undefeated in the playoffs when Evan Turner doesn't play.

etiolate · « **Reply #12616 on:** May 19, 2014, 06:24:17 PM »

Teams rushing to get titles against aging established teams tends to fail. I felt the Kings made that mistake. They were younger than the Lakers and could have won a title if not for the Webber injury and the big money signings/trades that put them over the cap for years. They still drafted well, but gave up on developing those picks and lost guys like Gerald Wallace and Hedo Turkoglu before they hit their prime.

The Spurs are "old" but they continually refill on youth and just keep plugging on without doing any panic moves.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #12617 on:** May 19, 2014, 06:30:14 PM »

Quote from: AWESOM-O on May 19, 2014, 06:20:46 PM

Quote from: benjipwns on May 18, 2014, 04:33:00 PM
The Heat are just coaxing titles out of having the best player in the league while the parts around him fall apart, Lakers did the same thing with Shaq/Kobe. The Bulls to some extent did the same.

The lack of Stern is also probably hurting them. Refs were allowing a lot more contact against Heat players and calling a lot more fouls on Heat players than you'd typically expect in a game of this magnitude with Stern sitting in the crowd.

Boy I'll never understand how people like you and methodis can maintain an entire posting existence on a mix of character posting and warped reality. I would think you guys would eventually get tired of it. But nope. You never do. It's impressive in a completely useless kind of way.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #12618 on:** May 19, 2014, 06:35:07 PM »

Quote from: etiolate on May 19, 2014, 06:24:17 PM

Teams rushing to get titles against aging established teams tends to fail. I felt the Kings made that mistake. They were younger than the Lakers and could have won a title if not for the Webber injury and the big money signings/trades that put them over the cap for years. They still drafted well, but gave up on developing those picks and lost guys like Gerald Wallace and Hedo Turkoglu before they hit their prime.

The Spurs are "old" but they continually refill on youth and just keep plugging on without doing any panic moves.

The Spurs are just a marvel. I remember so many years ago that the conventional wisdom was that Duncan was on the side of being washed up and the franchise was ready for a slow but steady decline. But it just never happened. I assume once Duncan does retire there will be a drop-off but I'm not even necessarily willing to bet on that anymore.

Steve Contra · « **Reply #12619 on:** May 19, 2014, 06:39:31 PM »

Isn't Popovich done when Duncan is? I thought I read something like that last year.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #12620 on:** May 19, 2014, 06:41:54 PM »

There has never been any official declaration as such I believe. I think people just assume it because their success is so linked.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #12621 on:** May 19, 2014, 06:49:08 PM »

I thought Pop had a direct quote talking about that actually...

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #12622 on:** May 19, 2014, 06:53:14 PM »

Maybe I'm wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #12623 on:** May 19, 2014, 09:08:04 PM »

Collison is gonna have a nightmare night on offense.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #12624 on:** May 19, 2014, 09:17:08 PM »

Spurs looking like a machine early.

benjipwns · « **Reply #12625 on:** May 19, 2014, 09:57:07 PM »

Just found out there are people named Cleanthony Early and Kristaps Porzingis in the draft.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #12626 on:** May 19, 2014, 10:05:23 PM »

Very offensive half. Thunder have no D.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #12627 on:** May 19, 2014, 10:43:39 PM »

Durant and Westbrook are going to have to do ALL the scoring.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #12628 on:** May 19, 2014, 11:03:18 PM »

dat spin move

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #12629 on:** May 19, 2014, 11:27:14 PM »

Gonna be tough for the Thunder in this series. They never did figure out the Spurs defensively tonight. And not actually running an offense and just having Westbrook and Durant score just looks like it isn't going to be enough.

Your Stalker · « **Reply #12630 on:** May 19, 2014, 11:27:32 PM »

they better show up next game
they need to pick up a legit 3rd option

benjipwns · « **Reply #12631 on:** May 19, 2014, 11:40:39 PM »

Ibaka (and Perkins when they're both out there) covers up a lot of their defensive mistakes and lets them overplay. Westbrook is a good defender otherwise, but Durant still isn't. He's improved a huge amount but he just doesn't seem to have the instincts, especially regarding using his length. And it seems like half the time or more he's out of position.

Plus he bails on plays.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #12632 on:** May 20, 2014, 04:16:55 PM »

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #12633 on:** May 20, 2014, 04:20:55 PM »

So LA and Boston will get the #1 and #2 picks tonight right?

:trollbron:

benjipwns · « **Reply #12634 on:** May 20, 2014, 04:27:13 PM »

All I care about is nobody from picks #9-14 moving up. Let SVG start working that magic.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #12635 on:** May 20, 2014, 07:49:57 PM »

Early to be saying this but I believe this is a must win for Miami tonight. Going down 0-2 in a best of 7 with Indy having the home court would be extremely difficult to pull out. Miami normally bounces back when they need a win so tonight should be fun/interesting.

benjipwns · « **Reply #12636 on:** May 20, 2014, 08:22:30 PM »

Fucking Singler!

Cavs gonna get another number one pick to mess up amirite.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #12637 on:** May 20, 2014, 08:26:05 PM »

dem cavs!

benjipwns · « **Reply #12638 on:** May 20, 2014, 08:26:39 PM »

oh god they did

also

at Bucks' representative

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #12639 on:** May 20, 2014, 08:29:11 PM »

Joe Dumars, ladies and gentlemen.

WOW @ Cavs. Irving to Wiggins down low...or do they pair up Irving with Parker in the back court...hmmm.

benjipwns · « **Reply #12640 on:** May 20, 2014, 08:30:13 PM »

Wiggins, LeBron, Irving, they just need some bigs

etiolate · « **Reply #12641 on:** May 20, 2014, 08:46:11 PM »

The NBA finally found a way to keep college players from coming out early.

Keep giving the top pick to Cleveland.

benjipwns · « **Reply #12642 on:** May 20, 2014, 08:56:21 PM »

Quote

"Not 1, not 2, but 3 first overall picks since LeBron left"

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #12643 on:** May 20, 2014, 09:00:08 PM »

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #12644 on:** May 20, 2014, 09:42:04 PM »

Better half so far for the Heat. The defense is much better. Much quicker. Less useless double teams. And more Birdman.

etiolate · « **Reply #12645 on:** May 20, 2014, 09:50:06 PM »

Somehow the Kings dropped in draft ranking for like the 4th time in the past 5 years.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #12646 on:** May 20, 2014, 10:00:02 PM »

Quote from: etiolate on May 20, 2014, 09:50:06 PM

Somehow the Kings dropped in draft ranking for like the 4th time in the past 5 years.

all apart of the plan to systematically punish small market teams

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #12647 on:** May 20, 2014, 10:06:48 PM »

Chalmers is playing wretched in this series. The Miami defense is better. The offense feels as limited as ever.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #12648 on:** May 20, 2014, 10:17:27 PM »

Stephenson is killing it. Not sure why Lebron is so passive on offensive tonight.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #12649 on:** May 20, 2014, 10:49:11 PM »

Hibbert owns bosh so hard in these games its hilarious.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #12650 on:** May 20, 2014, 10:54:44 PM »

Nice 4th quarter for Lebron.

benjipwns · « **Reply #12651 on:** May 20, 2014, 10:57:50 PM »

If you told me these two teams were shooting better from three than the FT line in this game I'd almost believe you.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #12652 on:** May 20, 2014, 11:05:04 PM »

That Lebron pass was the dagger. Nice 4th quarter comeback win for the Heat. Miami had to win that one and they did. On to the next one.

Lebron and Wade played great. Especially in the 4th. Birdman and Cole played really well.

Bosh appears to be in another of his lost confidence funks he regularly takes in the playoffs.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #12653 on:** May 21, 2014, 02:09:50 AM »

benjipwns · « **Reply #12654 on:** May 21, 2014, 02:55:26 AM »

So apparently the New Orleans Pelicans have some interest in Joe Dumars...

EDIT: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=okupov8

Tough deal, but I guess I'll take it.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #12655 on:** May 21, 2014, 04:13:10 PM »

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2014/story/_/id/10964763/2014-nba-playoffs-paul-george-indiana-pacers-diagnosed-concussion

Steve Contra · « **Reply #12656 on:** May 21, 2014, 04:17:31 PM »

The fix is in!

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #12657 on:** May 21, 2014, 10:22:11 PM »

Pretty much sums up the game

Your Stalker · « **Reply #12658 on:** May 21, 2014, 11:30:02 PM »

benjipwns · « **Reply #12659 on:** May 22, 2014, 02:57:01 AM »

Quote

After conducting a formal review, the NBA has alleged that Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling and his management team attempted to mislead the league during its investigation of racist remarks he made on a recording published by TMZ, according to a report obtained by the Los Angeles Times on Tuesday.

Sterling's actions were among several allegations the NBA made against the banned owner as well as Clippers management in the 30-page report, as detailed by the Times.

• Sterling tried to get V. Stiviano to lie about the authenticity of the recording and tell investigators that she had altered the audio of the TMZ tape. Stiviano was the person Sterling made the racist comments to on the tape, in which he voices unhappiness with her for posting online photos of herself with black people, including Hall of Famer Magic Johnson.

• On April 9, more than two weeks before it became public, the Clippers received a copy of the recording. Team president Andy Roeser discussed it with Sterling, then instructed an employee to destroy the copy. Roeser is currently on an indefinite leave of absence.

• Sterling and his wife, Shelly, are not estranged, as she has said. "Significant evidence exists in the public record and otherwise that Mr. and Mrs. Sterling are not in any sense estranged," the report says, according to the Times, adding that they are "inextricably intertwined" despite their claims. The report details how the two attended most Clippers home games this season, were spotted together at the All-Star Game in New Orleans and spent two days together immediately after the controversial recording went public.

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