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TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #13980 on:** November 05, 2014, 10:03:05 AM »

Their passing looks horrendous.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #13981 on:** November 05, 2014, 10:11:29 AM »

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We have to understand what it takes to win," James said. "It's going to be a long process, man. There's been a lot of losing basketball around here for a few years. So a lot of guys that are going to help us win ultimately haven't played a lot of meaningful basketball games in our league.

"When we get to that point when every possession matters , no possessions off -- we got to share the ball, we got to move the ball, we got to be a team and be unselfish -- we'll be a better team."

After starting the game 10-for-10 as a team against the Blazers, Cleveland went 21 for its next 75, finishing with a dismal 36.5 percent clip from the field. James was bad (4-for-12), but the Cavs' starting backcourt of Kyrie Irving (3-for-17) and Dion Waiters (3-for-11) was even worse.

Irving and Waiters were on the team the last two seasons, of course, as the Cavs racked up a combined record of 57-107.

James did not call out any teammate by name, but seemed to be referencing Irving's and Waiters' play when reflecting on what needs to change in order for Cleveland to start playing the right way.

"There's a lot of bad habits; a lot of bad habits have been built up over the last couple of years and when you play that style of basketball it takes a lot to get it up out of you," James said. "But I'm here to help and that's what it's about."

We'll see how they look around game 20 as a progress check.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #13982 on:** November 05, 2014, 10:12:42 AM »

He's not wrong, but he's also playing pretty badly considering. Love has been their best player so far.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #13983 on:** November 05, 2014, 10:14:14 AM »

He's not playing defense and constantly turning the ball over yet wants to act like he's a vet leader. Fuckouttahere

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #13984 on:** November 05, 2014, 10:14:35 AM »

Quote from: BrandNew on November 05, 2014, 10:12:42 AM

He's not wrong, but he's also playing pretty badly considering. Love has been their best player so far.

Agreed. Even in the game where he scored a lot of points, it took a ton of shot attempts to get there. It wasn't the typical Lebron big game stat sheet from the Miami years.

On the other side, the Rockets have started off the season very hot. Chandler who?

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #13985 on:** November 05, 2014, 10:24:22 AM »

Kobe took 37 shots last night to get 39 points. He's shooting 40% for the year so far. (To be fair, Lebron is shooting the exact same fg% at the moment)

There is this idea out there about poor Kobe and how he isn't playing on a decent team. I don't think he feels that way. I mean sure he would rather be winning but in the absence of that, I think he is secretly happy he gets to essentially pad his scoring totals for the year and climb up the scoring list.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #13986 on:** November 05, 2014, 11:34:30 AM »

Two players are averaging more than 19 shots per game: Blake Griffin (20.5) and Kobe Bryant (24.4). Kobe is averaging as many shots as Duncan and Nowitzki combined (and they are shooting 52 and 58%, respectively).

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #13987 on:** November 05, 2014, 11:41:37 AM »

The thing is this is the perfect situation for him. Nobody is gonna complain about Kobe shooting too much on an awful team like this.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #13988 on:** November 05, 2014, 03:44:03 PM »

Journo: "Kobe, what are your thoughts on the teams 0-5 start?

Kobe:

Am_I_Anonymous · « **Reply #13989 on:** November 05, 2014, 03:44:25 PM »

Lebron letting his team lose

Am_I_Anonymous · « **Reply #13990 on:** November 05, 2014, 03:45:22 PM »

Am_I_Anonymous · « **Reply #13991 on:** November 05, 2014, 03:56:56 PM »

Quote from: The Walrus on November 05, 2014, 03:54:02 PM

I didn't even realize the Lakers played last night, as I was too busy drinking away the election pain and wishing testicular torsion on Am I Anonymous.

14-37 from the field

Hey so it was you then. I ate way to many reese cups and had the worst stomach ache ever. Dicknose.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #13992 on:** November 05, 2014, 04:05:51 PM »

LeBron doesn't know how to lead, that's clear now. Probably because he grew up fatherless.

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Stoney Mason · « **Reply #13993 on:** November 05, 2014, 05:19:46 PM »

I like Lebron quite a bit but I'm not buying into this narrative that Lebron is "teaching" these guys by being super passive and not playing very well.

benjipwns · « **Reply #13994 on:** November 05, 2014, 10:26:40 PM »

dat Josh Smith shooting line

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #13995 on:** November 05, 2014, 10:28:54 PM »

Josh Smith is going to kill Van Gundy. Cardiac arrest is imminent.

naff · « **Reply #13996 on:** November 05, 2014, 10:52:23 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on November 05, 2014, 10:14:35 AM

Quote from: BrandNew on November 05, 2014, 10:12:42 AM
He's not wrong, but he's also playing pretty badly considering. Love has been their best player so far.

Agreed. Even in the game where he scored a lot of points, it took a ton of shot attempts to get there. It wasn't the typical Lebron big game stat sheet from the Miami years.

On the other side, the Rockets have started off the season very hot. Chandler who?

Morey lookin so good letting him go for a cheaper more effective Ariza.

End of 2nd quarter, Hayward blocks LeBron and dunks in transition

Cleveland playing whipping boy to the Jazz most of this game, offense looking so much better under Snyder.... Cleveland will come back if their offense stops being so cac though (picking up in the 3rd).

Jazz defense

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #13997 on:** November 05, 2014, 11:00:10 PM »

Gets blocked, doesn't get back on transition in time. And yet he wants to teach this team how to play correctly?

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #13998 on:** November 05, 2014, 11:11:17 PM »

He's been playing better tonight but his turnovers are now officially a problem.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #13999 on:** November 05, 2014, 11:23:17 PM »

Lebron is fucking garbage wtf

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #14000 on:** November 05, 2014, 11:27:52 PM »

naff · « **Reply #14001 on:** November 05, 2014, 11:28:37 PM »

~~FAVORS YOU FUCK UP~~

all is forgiven

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #14002 on:** November 06, 2014, 12:50:19 AM »

Didn't catch the game. Was busy playing COD.

Sounds like I missed a good one.

Your Stalker · « **Reply #14003 on:** November 06, 2014, 12:53:02 AM »

fuck da clips

Am_I_Anonymous · « **Reply #14004 on:** November 06, 2014, 08:37:32 AM »

I get what Lebron is doing. He is trying to show Kyrie and Dion how to win.

If they don't stop playing as they are now (Irving 0 assists vs Jazz), and don't integrate in the offense I expect one (probably Waiters) to be traded by the all star break.

Tough love.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #14005 on:** November 06, 2014, 10:20:49 AM »

Lol Irving ain't going anywhere

I doubt anyone will be traded after what happened in the offseason. The team just needs to shake its bad habits and start playing better team basketball.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #14006 on:** November 06, 2014, 10:21:03 AM »

Lebron should give a more consistent defensive effort if he wants to teach anybody.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #14007 on:** November 06, 2014, 10:22:34 AM »

Lebron should bulk back up and play PF more, ala the Heat days. Varejao be damned, just play Love at the 5 and play small ball.

Am_I_Anonymous · « **Reply #14008 on:** November 06, 2014, 10:35:24 AM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on November 06, 2014, 10:21:03 AM

Lebron should give a more consistent defensive effort if he wants to teach anybody.

I think he wants them to take these L's. Weird hunch man.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #14009 on:** November 06, 2014, 10:46:43 AM »

Looking at the box score, the Cavs as a team had 6 assists last night. There is no way on earth a team with that many good passers should end up with 6 assists in a game. By accident they should end up with more than that.

What that tells me is they aren't really running a system yet. Which is a problem. It's still insanely early obviously so it should come but still, after the drubbing, the spurs gave in the finals, I thought that lesson would have rubbed off on everybody in the league.

Am_I_Anonymous · « **Reply #14010 on:** November 06, 2014, 10:50:16 AM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on November 06, 2014, 10:46:43 AM

Looking at the box score, the Cavs as a team had 6 assists last night. There is no way on earth a team with that many good passers should end up with 6 assists in a game. By accident they should end up with more than that.

What that tells me is they aren't really running a system yet. Which is a problem. It's still insanely early obviously so it should come but still, after the drubbing, the spurs gave in the finals, I thought that lesson would have rubbed off on everybody in the league.

I really am circling Irving and Waiters as the issue. They seem to stop the offensive flow at least 2 out of every 5 trips. This offense is predicated on ball movement, not hero ball.

Edit;

Yup

Irving at waiters:

13-27 from the field
1 assist combined
1 rebound combined
-4 combined on floor

They are killing us. Time to consider starting miller I think.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #14011 on:** November 06, 2014, 11:07:08 AM »

Maybe LeBron should run the offense more.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #14012 on:** November 06, 2014, 11:09:06 AM »

Miller should be the starting SG, that's for sure.

Am_I_Anonymous · « **Reply #14013 on:** November 06, 2014, 11:10:08 AM »

Can't disagree with either sentiment you guys said there.

Am_I_Anonymous · « **Reply #14014 on:** November 06, 2014, 11:13:36 AM »

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/a-complete-list-of-nba-players-throughout-history-to-whom-josh-smith-will-not-respond/

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #14015 on:** November 06, 2014, 01:16:45 PM »

looks like Simmons is gonna get banned again pretty soon. Going off on ESPN's golden boys Golic and Greeny.

Am_I_Anonymous · « **Reply #14016 on:** November 06, 2014, 02:54:15 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on November 06, 2014, 01:16:45 PM

looks like Simmons is gonna get banned again pretty soon. Going off on ESPN's golden boys Golic and Greeny.

Ohhhhhhhhh link!

Caught up....wow he's fucked.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #14017 on:** November 06, 2014, 03:06:58 PM »

The writing was on the wall from the last time. Bill already has a thin ego and you could tell he was already pissed at ESPN before the suspension. He's clearly leaving when the contract is up and either wants them to fire him early or he just doesn't give a fuck anymore and will take the consequences until his contract is up.

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #14018 on:** November 06, 2014, 03:08:28 PM »

I don't understand people that actually listen to Mike and Mike in the morning. It's so hack and corny.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=137651491&postcount=401

It's offensively bland in the same way Jay Leno was.

Am_I_Anonymous · « **Reply #14019 on:** November 06, 2014, 03:09:18 PM »

Where does he go? TNT?

ESPN owns grantland.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #14020 on:** November 06, 2014, 03:10:05 PM »

Quote from: ToxicAdam on November 06, 2014, 03:08:28 PM

It's offensively bland in the same way Jay Leno was.

You answered your question. People like bland.

Quote from: Am_I_Anonymous on November 06, 2014, 03:09:18 PM

Where does he go? TNT?

ESPN owns grantland.

Someone will pick him up and offer him essentially the same deal. He's too popular not to.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2014/09/29/in-wake-of-suspension-will-bill-simmons-leave-espn-when-his-contract-is-up/

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #14021 on:** November 06, 2014, 03:30:16 PM »

He better drag Lowe and Barnwell with him

benjipwns · « **Reply #14022 on:** November 06, 2014, 06:20:13 PM »

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11831408/lebron-james-kyrie-irving-reportedly-exchange-words-state-cleveland-cavaliers-offense

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #14023 on:** November 06, 2014, 10:54:31 PM »

I love Simmons and have never been bothered by his Boston homerism

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #14024 on:** November 06, 2014, 10:58:28 PM »

Houston 6-0.

Defeat the spurs tonight.

Also looks like the simmons/golic is already over.

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Spoke to Bill, all is good. I will discuss on show

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #14025 on:** November 06, 2014, 11:36:02 PM »

Houston looking fierce. I really hate to root for them though, I don't like a single one of their players

Beezy · « **Reply #14026 on:** November 07, 2014, 02:31:10 AM »

I like Ariza. That's it really.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #14027 on:** November 07, 2014, 04:07:23 PM »

New Celtics alternate uni

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #14028 on:** November 07, 2014, 04:32:11 PM »

How are the Lakers doing this year, Shinobi? I don't really keep up with it, so I was just wondering.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #14029 on:** November 07, 2014, 04:36:45 PM »

The Lakers suck so much, they're going to fucking murder Charles Barkley. Fuck them

Your Stalker · « **Reply #14030 on:** November 07, 2014, 04:38:21 PM »

I just read he isn't going to eat until the Fakeshow wins.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #14031 on:** November 07, 2014, 10:50:32 PM »

Gonna watch this cavs nuggets game and blog it. Just turned on and Lebron botched a 2 on 1 fastbreak with a too cute pass.

jakefromstatefarm · « **Reply #14032 on:** November 07, 2014, 10:53:46 PM »

they've gone on a p nice run since. really fun to watch them on offense when they're clicking

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #14033 on:** November 07, 2014, 10:57:13 PM »

Yeah, Lebron looks more active and energetic tonight so far also.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #14034 on:** November 07, 2014, 11:11:30 PM »

Correct call. That's a dangerous foul.

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #14035 on:** November 07, 2014, 11:19:13 PM »

Denver is the cure to every teams illness.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #14036 on:** November 07, 2014, 11:28:00 PM »

Pretty much. The Cavs look better tonight but it could just be that the nuggets are that bad.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #14037 on:** November 07, 2014, 11:33:13 PM »

I never especially liked Lebron's jumper but it seems to have deserted him in the off-season.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #14038 on:** November 08, 2014, 01:05:51 AM »

Cavs played really good first half. Kind of meh second half but they were clearly in control all night.

team filler · « **Reply #14039 on:** November 09, 2014, 11:40:52 PM »

finally got a win brehs

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