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nudemacusers · « **Reply #14040 on:** November 10, 2014, 12:13:30 AM »

Quote from: Esch on November 08, 2014, 01:52:45 AM

https://www.facebook.com/stevenash/posts/10152770496175250

everything is gonna be ok, carrie takes back the mean thing she said

naff · « **Reply #14041 on:** November 10, 2014, 05:03:50 AM »

Quote from: filler on November 09, 2014, 11:40:52 PM

finally got a win brehs

Kobe 21 from 20

Lin 21 from 12

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #14042 on:** November 10, 2014, 07:25:55 PM »

Watching Cavs Pelicans.

Cavs looking a bit ragged early.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #14043 on:** November 10, 2014, 07:40:31 PM »

Cavs down 11 early. Offense still doesn't look right.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #14044 on:** November 10, 2014, 07:46:31 PM »

Ryan Anderson 21 points so far and its just the 2nd quarter with 7 minutes left.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #14045 on:** November 10, 2014, 09:04:35 PM »

Lebron playing fierce. Cavs look good tonight

Guess the formula is to subtract waiters

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #14046 on:** November 10, 2014, 09:05:39 PM »

Also Kylie with 9 assists

How he should be playing!

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #14047 on:** November 10, 2014, 09:12:13 PM »

James gets his first tripdoub of the season, looked very impressive

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #14048 on:** November 10, 2014, 09:35:30 PM »

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/11855642/phil-jackson-takes-umbrage-adam-silver-thoughts-new-york-knicks-triangle-offense

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #14049 on:** November 10, 2014, 09:58:24 PM »

Cleveland played a strong second after a lackluster first. They have 8 out of their next 10 at home so they should be able to pad that win loss total and gain some continuity.

Am_I_Anonymous · « **Reply #14050 on:** November 10, 2014, 10:52:00 PM »

Get them licks in now, haters. Cavs are a 50+ ,win team..smh

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #14051 on:** November 11, 2014, 12:15:56 AM »

I don't think you are going to find anyone here who honestly believed that Cavs were gonna be a sub 50 win team.

Am_I_Anonymous · « **Reply #14052 on:** November 11, 2014, 08:51:43 AM »

Quote from: BrandNew on November 11, 2014, 12:15:56 AM

I don't think you are going to find anyone here who honestly believed that Cavs were gonna be a sub 50 win team.

You hate Cleveland, surprised you're not hoping somebody gets hurt.....

Anyway Cav's offense looked good last night, still need to work on that defense though.

Anthony Davis is a beast. Best in the NBA within 3 years. He's next.

Beezy · « **Reply #14053 on:** November 11, 2014, 09:38:18 AM »

You must have BrandNew confused with Green Shinobi aka Walrus.

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #14054 on:** November 11, 2014, 09:42:11 AM »

AiA you're an embarrassing Cleveland fan. The city hasn't won shit for 50 years, but you carry on like you live in Boston or some shit.

Am_I_Anonymous · « **Reply #14055 on:** November 11, 2014, 09:42:16 AM »

Quote from: Beezy on November 11, 2014, 09:38:18 AM

You must have BrandNew confused with Green Shinobi aka Walrus.

Ah could be.

Am_I_Anonymous · « **Reply #14056 on:** November 11, 2014, 09:43:01 AM »

Quote from: ToxicAdam on November 11, 2014, 09:42:11 AM

AiA you're an embarrassing Cleveland fan. The city hasn't won shit for 50 years, but you carry on like you live in Boston or some shit.

No, see you and your little group of "cleveland will always suck" is the anchor bringing us down. Go stan for somebody else, we don't need you.

Just for your records:

Indians won 85 games
Browns are 6-3 and in first place
Cavs are starting to play like the cheat code team they are.

Forgive me if I'm a bit excited.

Buy by all means continue to say Cleveland sucks while you drink your hipster pabst beers and bitch about everything like a 55 year old woman.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #14057 on:** November 11, 2014, 10:01:44 AM »

Cavs aren't going to win anything of importance until they start playing defense.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #14058 on:** November 11, 2014, 10:16:43 AM »

Yeah their D is reprehensible. We all knew it would be bad, but oyyyyyy.

Passing game needs to step up as well. They shouldn't be giving Waiters any more than 25 minutes a game, he's a black hole for the ball.

T-Short · « **Reply #14059 on:** November 11, 2014, 10:47:04 AM »

Heard the clip of Obama calling out MJ on Jalen and Jacoby. lol

Am_I_Anonymous · « **Reply #14060 on:** November 11, 2014, 12:15:50 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on November 11, 2014, 10:16:43 AM

Yeah their D is reprehensible. We all knew it would be bad, but oyyyyyy.

Passing game needs to step up as well. They shouldn't be giving Waiters any more than 25 minutes a game, he's a black hole for the ball.

I agree with the Waiters comment. He didn't play last night and they were much more effective as a unit. The difference, offensively, was night and day. That defense though......

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #14061 on:** November 11, 2014, 12:32:03 PM »

Man the Pistons...gotta feel bad for Van Gundy but luckily for him he has the power to get rid of the problems at the trade deadline and offseason.

The Pistons got within two points of Chicago last night, with like 3 minutes left in the game. On their next position, before the offense even got set, Josh Smith took a wide open three and clanked it. Granted he was wide open but that's not the shot you want with a few minutes left. Chicago then went on a 12-3 run to finish the game.

Also Drummond is really struggling offensively. Only 5 shots last night...I'm baffled that he isn't getting a lot more touches and shots a game. Feed the big man.

Am_I_Anonymous · « **Reply #14062 on:** November 11, 2014, 12:33:14 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on November 11, 2014, 12:32:03 PM

Man the Pistons...gotta feel bad for Van Gundy but luckily for him he has the power to get rid of the problems at the trade deadline and offseason.

The Pistons got within two points of Chicago last night, with like 3 minutes left in the game. On their next position, before the offense even got set, Josh Smith took a wide open three and clanked it. Granted he was wide open but that's not the shot you want with a few minutes left. Chicago then went on a 12-3 run to finish the game.

Also Drummond is really struggling offensively. Only 5 shots last night...I'm baffled that he isn't getting a lot more touches and shots a game. Feed the big man.

Biggest problem on the Pistons?

Smith, Josh

He sucks. i mean when his former team sends YOU fucking a box of cognac for obtaining him, you may have an issue.

T-Short · « **Reply #14063 on:** November 11, 2014, 04:11:24 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on November 11, 2014, 12:32:03 PM

Man the Pistons...gotta feel bad for Van Gundy but luckily for him he has the power to get rid of the problems at the trade deadline and offseason.

The Pistons got within two points of Chicago last night, with like 3 minutes left in the game. On their next position, before the offense even got set, Josh Smith took a wide open three and clanked it. Granted he was wide open but that's not the shot you want with a few minutes left. Chicago then went on a 12-3 run to finish the game.

Also Drummond is really struggling offensively. Only 5 shots last night...I'm baffled that he isn't getting a lot more touches and shots a game. Feed the big man.

Also, everyone (not just Dre) are missing a shitload of shots in the paint. Dunno what's going on, but they can't keep this sort of paint percentage up, it's ridiculous.

naff · « **Reply #14064 on:** November 11, 2014, 09:56:45 PM »

Bet a little on SAC to win earlier today, just had that good feel and the odds were far too heavily in favour of the Mavs imo. Looking good so far, 1st quarter was a massive blowout, though it got a lot tighter in the 2nd and will continue this way probably. Gays been playing reall well... No way they keep up this consistency

naff · « **Reply #14065 on:** November 11, 2014, 10:56:31 PM »

Gah, I was feeling so good about my pick for a while there, Kings look done, huge turnaround for Dallas...

Good to see Klays back today, a reasonably healthy Spurs and Warriors faceoff

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #14066 on:** November 11, 2014, 11:26:57 PM »

Kobe down to 39% shooting. This Lakers season just keeps on giving.

naff · « **Reply #14067 on:** November 11, 2014, 11:56:04 PM »

Has he beaten the the most missed shots in a career record yet?

Beezy · « **Reply #14068 on:** November 12, 2014, 12:00:05 AM »

Quote from: Butt Seriously on November 11, 2014, 11:56:04 PM

Has he beaten the the most missed shots in a career record yet?

Yes

Brehvolution · « **Reply #14069 on:** November 12, 2014, 09:30:25 AM »

http://deadspin.com/kobe-bryant-breaks-all-time-nba-record-for-missed-shots-1657687848

Am_I_Anonymous · « **Reply #14070 on:** November 12, 2014, 09:32:10 AM »

Quote from: Brehvolution on November 12, 2014, 09:30:25 AM

http://deadspin.com/kobe-bryant-breaks-all-time-nba-record-for-missed-shots-1657687848

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #14071 on:** November 12, 2014, 10:06:11 AM »

eh. volume shooter gonna volume shoot. Jordan's not that far away, nor is Kareem.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #14072 on:** November 12, 2014, 10:08:34 AM »

Yeah, I'm not sure why the missed field goals thing has gotten so much play. I mean I understand it in the since that it sort of represents the type of gunner Kobe was and the ending of that era but we all knew that anyway. I doubt most people before this knew Havlicek had the record or cared.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #14073 on:** November 12, 2014, 10:19:31 AM »

I'd be curious to see where Lebron is on that list.

Am_I_Anonymous · « **Reply #14074 on:** November 12, 2014, 10:22:50 AM »

Quote from: BrandNew on November 12, 2014, 10:19:31 AM

I'd be curious to see where Lebron is on that list.

Lebron is a career 50% shooter

Kober is a career 45% shooter and averages many more attempts a game.

Lebron would have to play as long as Kobe (doubtful) to even come close to his number.

Kobe has 13,421 missed shots to date in 18 years (minus injuries)

Lebron has 8500 missed shots to date in 11 years.

Am_I_Anonymous · « **Reply #14075 on:** November 12, 2014, 10:33:30 AM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on November 12, 2014, 10:08:34 AM

Yeah, I'm not sure why the missed field goals thing has gotten so much play. I mean I understand it in the since that it sort of represents the type of gunner Kobe was and the ending of that era but we all knew that anyway. I doubt most people before this knew Havlicek had the record or cared.

I sure didn't......I thought for sure it would have been some gunner from the 80's like Mitch Richmond. Note even close, he only missed 8733 shots.

Here's a few:

Karl Malone: 12682
Kareem: 12470
Larry Bird: 8743
Magic: 5740
Mike J: 12,345
Danny Ferry 3,110
Manute Bol: 1,510
Allen Iverson: 11,439

One this is for sure. If Jordan would not have sat out those 3 prime years he would be around 14,000 misses, for sure.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #14076 on:** November 12, 2014, 10:42:51 AM »

I would have thought Kareem or Karl Malone just because of their longevity.

Kobe is probably the last link to that old school way of thinking about basketball. I get into constant arguments with my older brother to this day because he's one of those types who still criticizes Lebron for too often passing at the end of the game. He just doesn't get that the game has changed. He still thinks it's 1988 and the best way to show how great a player you are is to go 1 on 5 even though its been statistically proven how inefficient that is.

But to people who grew up with a certain kind of basketball, they still think that's the macho way of playing the game.

Kobe is leading the league in scoring and field goal attempts on a terrible team with an awful fg%. If it was anybody else but Kobe doing this, he would be getting killed in the media, for being a selfish ahole. But Kobe is mostly immune to this criticism. People just go oh that's just Kobe. And he has a built in defense force in the media and with former players and because of the rings, unlike say Allen Iverson who essentially was similar at the end of his career but getting (rightfully mostly) killed for it.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #14077 on:** November 12, 2014, 08:19:28 PM »

I miss Bill Walton

El Babua · « **Reply #14078 on:** November 12, 2014, 11:53:36 PM »

Heat

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #14079 on:** November 13, 2014, 12:39:21 AM »

Wolves looked great during the first half. Fun young team.

Your Stalker · « **Reply #14080 on:** November 13, 2014, 03:21:34 AM »

Are there less games per day this season?

benjipwns · « **Reply #14081 on:** November 13, 2014, 03:47:26 AM »

I think they're having less games on nationalized game nights or something.

But 8-12 games a night is pretty standard I think.

And just to jump on the discussion last page a bit, at least 5000+ minutes 1974 forward, most missed FG per 100 team possessions:

Code: [Select]

1	Freeman Williams	15.9
2	Allen Iverson	15.8
3	Michael Jordan*	15.4
4	Kobe Bryant	15.2
5	Dominique Wilkins*	15.1
6	Tracy McGrady	15
7	Carmelo Anthony	15
8	Pete Maravich*	14.8
9	Vince Carter	14.3
10	Kyrie Irving	14.3
11	Antoine Walker	14.2
12	John Williamson	14.1
13	Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf	14.1
14	Russell Westbrook	14.1
15	Jordan Crawford	14
16	Jamal Mashburn	13.8
17	Bob Love	13.8
18	Brandon Jennings	13.8
19	Gilbert Arenas	13.7
20	Glenn Robinson	13.7

Quintin Dailey, Michael Beasley, Michael Redd, Kemba Walker and Mark Aguirre are the next five. Then you get some nice old timers like World B. Free, Rick Barry, Fred Carter, along with Jannero Pargo, Rip Hamilton and THEN LeBron. (Darrell Griffith, Derrick Rose, Kevin Durant, Ben Gordon, Isiah Rider next five after LeBron.)

Am_I_Anonymous · « **Reply #14082 on:** November 13, 2014, 02:54:14 PM »

Is Kobe really better than Timmy?

Brehvolution · « **Reply #14083 on:** November 13, 2014, 04:14:12 PM »

Kobe has 1 more rape, also.

Steve Contra · « **Reply #14084 on:** November 13, 2014, 04:27:49 PM »

Duncan's the guy you'd want to get a drink with*

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*Because Kobe might slip something into yours

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benjipwns · « **Reply #14085 on:** November 13, 2014, 06:53:43 PM »

It's a good thing Kobe got voted onto all those defensive teams despite only playing great defense all year long like twice and Duncan never won DPOY so we can we pretend this is a debate.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #14086 on:** November 13, 2014, 07:06:44 PM »

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/michael-carter-williams-dont-talk-to-me-about-tanking/

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #14087 on:** November 13, 2014, 07:07:42 PM »

Shit, I double posted.

benjipwns · « **Reply #14088 on:** November 13, 2014, 07:49:10 PM »

The rape accusation isn't even the good part, it's the police interview transcript.

benjipwns · « **Reply #14089 on:** November 13, 2014, 08:58:09 PM »

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #14090 on:** November 13, 2014, 09:15:58 PM »

five second blowjob, yeesh

naff · « **Reply #14091 on:** November 13, 2014, 09:56:57 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on November 13, 2014, 07:06:44 PM

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/michael-carter-williams-dont-talk-to-me-about-tanking/

Quote from: MCW

All anybody was talking about was “tanking.”...The media spin was that we were tanking the season so we could get the number one draft pick...As players, we all know the math. The last place team only has a 25 percent chance of winning the lottery. Grown men are going to go out and purposely mail it in for a one-in-four shot at drafting somebody who might someday take their job? Nope.

Quote from: MCW

For me, it’s all about Ellen. I just think she’s awesome.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #14092 on:** November 13, 2014, 10:03:17 PM »

Quote from: Butt Seriously on November 13, 2014, 09:56:57 PM

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Steve Contra · « **Reply #14093 on:** November 13, 2014, 10:08:55 PM »

I was coming in here to ask if you guys are seeing this. Fuuuuuuuuuck.

Steve Contra · « **Reply #14094 on:** November 13, 2014, 10:12:42 PM »

If I were Dallas I'd double down and go for the record.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #14095 on:** November 13, 2014, 10:15:12 PM »

Regarding the MCW article. Tanking isn't something players do. It's something management sets in place by not acquiring talent. The players themselves are incidental to the process.

naff · « **Reply #14096 on:** November 13, 2014, 10:17:54 PM »

Of course, but it's funny MCW doesn't seem to realise that/is in such heavy denial he can't. When management stacks your team with d-league boffins no-ones ever heard of you're tanking.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #14097 on:** November 13, 2014, 10:20:31 PM »

Quote from: Butt Seriously on November 13, 2014, 10:17:54 PM

Of course, but it's funny MCW doesn't seem to realise that/is in such heavy denial he can't. When management stacks your team with d-league boffins no-ones ever heard of you're tanking.

I think the more likely truth is not wanting to bite the hand that feeds you. Especially when you are a 23 year old kid who's biggest contracts are still ahead of him. It's easier to just go after "the media".

naff · « **Reply #14098 on:** November 13, 2014, 10:41:11 PM »

Hmm. Maybe, it's not like he was asked a question. That's getting pretty deep into the narrative taking the initiative to write an article supporting a false narrative assuming he wasn't asked to

Quote from: Steve Contra on November 13, 2014, 10:12:42 PM

If I were Dallas I'd double down and go for the record.

they'd still need to double this differential though

http://articles.latimes.com/1991-12-18/sports/sp-476_1_cavaliers-set-nba-record

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #14099 on:** November 13, 2014, 11:06:51 PM »

We gonna act like none of us saw that absolutely incredible Memphis comeback win...with a .3 second tip in to win by Courtney Lee? AGAINST THE KINGS??? etiolate get in here

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