"A black sheriff?!": The Official Topic of Obama and New Era American Politics

[Phoenix Dark]

I heard she might be a lesbian, which means she could be biased against straight people

[Van Cruncheon]

Hey, Elena Kagan's confirmation hearing is coming up and there doesn't seem to be a consensus talking point against her.  What gives?

Are you kidding?  All I heard after she was nominated was BLANK SLATE BLANK SLATE BLANK SLATE.  And of course the far left is afeard that she's not gonna be liberal enough (although since she's gonna be replacing Stevens, that's a fair worry to have.).  I think the problem is that today's conservative is so easily distracted- they can't decide if they want to be mad at Obama for not waving a wand to solve the economy, the oil spill, or for having to basically fire McChrystal for going rogue while maintaining a straight face and forgetting what happened to Shinseki.  And then if he DID wave a magic wand and fix anything, they'd bitch about him being a warlock or whatever.  And the media would follow along, because they are stupid and useless.

"we here at cnn aren't saying that president obama is in league with lord voldemort; we're just saying he has a magic wizard wand and hung out with saul alinsky, and we feel you need to be informed"

[Human Snorenado]

Also, the other day on CNN they actually fucking called Janet Napolitano "Big Sis" and used the "some are now calling her this" card, when by "some" they mean Matt Drudge, who is a Very Important and Serious Person, apparently.  Paul Krugman is shrill by contrast, and Michael Moore is fat.

[Phoenix Dark]

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/06/flashback-sen-byrds-speech-on-eve-of-iraq-war.php?ref=fpblg

[Oblivion]

Okay, I have to ask, and forgive me if this is a dumb question, but I'm still trying to figure this out. Regarding the BP oil spill, why is Obama still allowing BP to handle the situation? Shouldn't he have stepped in and taken control? It still appears as if he's still allowing BP a great deal of autonomy. Now, I refuse to believe that someone like Obama would be anywhere near that incompetent, especially after 60 plus days. So it leads me to believe there must be a legitimate reason. Is it simply because BP has capabilities and the know how (in theory at least) to handle this, which the government itself lacks?

[Mandark]

why is Obama still allowing BP to handle the situation?

Because he is not personally capable of stopping a deepwater oil leak.

FFS dude, we elected a political leader, not a superpowered national daddy figure.

[Human Snorenado]

I LIKED IT BETTER WHEN THE PRESIDENT CALLED TURRISTS EVILDOERS AND SAID THEY HATED US FOR OUR FREEDOMS

THIS GUY SEEMS LIKE HE HAS LOTS OF BOOK LEARNIN AND IS AN ASSHOLE

[Oblivion]

why is Obama still allowing BP to handle the situation?

Because he is not personally capable of stopping a deepwater oil leak.

FFS dude, we elected a political leader, not a superpowered national daddy figure.

That's not what I was implying at all. I was asking if this is an issue of powerlessness or incompetence.

[Phoenix Dark]

It's their operation and the US government doesn't have any particular technology to plug the hole. The only thing they could do is blow it up, which could cause problems as well.

The government is more in control of the recovery (cleaning up the spill/compensating those effected) and determining who's to blame.

[Mandark]

Probably shouldn't jump down anyone's throat for something they preface with "this might be a dumb question".  Got irked at hearing for the billionth time that Obama should "take over" or "get involved", so Oblivion wound up with sarcasm as a door prize.

What PD said is right, AFAIK.



Anyways, how about Robert Byrd?

He was the last living link in the Senate to a very different America, politically speaking.  Parties that were pretty patchwork nationally, explicit racial apartheid in a big chunk of the country, and a much greater public acceptance of pork barrel politics.  He seemed to single-handedly keep the Democratic machine going in West Virginia when the rest of the Appalachians turned Republican.

He wrote an autobiography a few years back.  I'd be interested to see what he wrote about filibustering the Civil Rights Act.

[Phoenix Dark]

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[Dickie Dee]

Probably shouldn't jump down anyone's throat for something they preface with "this might be a dumb question".  Got irked at hearing for the billionth time that Obama should "take over" or "get involved", so Oblivion wound up with sarcasm as a door prize.

What PD said is right, AFAIK.



Anyways, how about Robert Byrd?

He was the last living link in the Senate to a very different America, politically speaking.  Parties that were pretty patchwork nationally, explicit racial apartheid in a big chunk of the country, and a much greater public acceptance of pork barrel politics.  He seemed to single-handedly keep the Democratic machine going in West Virginia when the rest of the Appalachians turned Republican.

He wrote an autobiography a few years back.  I'd be interested to see what he wrote about filibustering the Civil Rights Act.

He's definitely some weird living time capsule. It always bothered me when lizard-brains would say "hey well look at the kkk Democrat Byrd and try to tell me Republicans are the racists hyuk hyuk". smugface x ∞

Anyways, re: the CRA, iirc he's said it was one of his great regrets (in the context of also regretting voting for the Patriot Act)

[Dickie Dee]

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meh 6/10, successfully captured the gun fetish but not enoug...OMG IT'S REAL

[Oblivion]

It's their operation and the US government doesn't have any particular technology to plug the hole. The only thing they could do is blow it up, which could cause problems as well.

The government is more in control of the recovery (cleaning up the spill/compensating those effected) and determining who's to blame.

Yeah, I just wanted to make sure this is the case.

[Eric P]

obama isn't fixing it because he's too busy playing golf and listening to raps and shooting all the jobs

[Brehvolution]

Typical Americans bitching about the high price of oil and then complaining when it washes up on shore for free.

[Brehvolution]

More here.

[Robo]

 

[Mandark]

He's definitely some weird living time capsule. It always bothered me when lizard-brains would say "hey well look at the kkk Democrat Byrd and try to tell me Republicans are the racists hyuk hyuk". smugface x ∞

Anyways, re: the CRA, iirc he's said it was one of his great regrets (in the context of also regretting voting for the Patriot Act)

Found that article, where his other regrets include supporting the Vietnam war and voting for deregulation of the airline industry.  Weird.

Very true about people playing the ohyeahwhataboutByrd card.  Conservatives who were just playing for their team, but also centrists/apathetics who wanted to pat themselves on the back for their own above-the-frayness.



Anyway, looks like financial regulatory reform is about to squeak through.  Economics of Contempt says the bill looks solid and that's good enough for me.

[Oblivion]

[Brehvolution]

Your pic wasn't showing up for me so I rehosted it for you.



@ Creepy

[Ichirou]

JayDubya falls in several of those categories.  The one that struck me first was Bizarrely Hypocritical though.

[Beardo]

The many types of Democrats.

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The enabler

Everyone else

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[Phoenix Dark]

funny

anyway check out the updated healthcare.gov site, it's pretty nice
http://www.healthcare.gov/index.html

Seniors are probably more relieved than impressed right now (after all, they aren't on death panels), but in 2011 that should change

Offering Prescription Drug Discounts. Seniors who reach the coverage gap will receive a 50 percent discount when buying Medicare Part D covered brand-name prescription drugs. Over the next ten years, seniors will receive additional savings on brand-name and generic drugs until the coverage gap is closed in 2020. Effective January 1, 2011.

Maybe PantherLotus on gaf said it best: "In about 10-15 years, Republicans are going to really, really, REALLY regret branding this as Obamacare."

[Beardo]

I wished i lived in that fantasy land. Endless money supply, free drugs. Sounds like heaven.

[Beardo]

Another type of Democrat

Anti-capitalist yet demands all the benefits of capitalism.
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It's my right to shop at your mall!!

[Boogie]

Well, that man is now going to haunt my dreams. 

[Mandark]

Maybe PantherLotus on gaf said it best: "In about 10-15 years, Republicans are going to really, really, REALLY regret branding this as Obamacare."

I doubt it.  Conservatives went nuts about Medicare too.  Then it passed and they stopped campaigning against it, and weren't punished for having opposed it.

In a way, that's a good thing.  Social legislation is subject to ZOMG SOCIALISM hysteria, but once in place people start thinking of it as a standard function of government.  It creates a constituency for protecting, improving, and expanding the program, which is why Republicans added an expensive, unfunded drug benefit to Medicare.  It might be frustrating that they get away with retconning, but it means they have to give up any hopes of repeal.

And boy howdy, Beardo's sure keeping it classy up in here.

[Beardo]

Maybe PantherLotus on gaf said it best: "In about 10-15 years, Republicans are going to really, really, REALLY regret branding this as Obamacare."

And boy howdy, Beardo's sure keeping it classy up in here.

Thanks for reminding me about the last type of Democrat

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"He disagreed with me whaaaaaaa!"

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[Mandark]

I'm just saying, bro.  Last time you were talking a bit of smack about the CRA, but were savvy enough to walk away before explicitly denouncing it.  You might want to just take a couple extra minutes to think whether posting stuff like this is the most effective way to express yourself.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Libertarian Type 25 - The Beardo Archetype: The filthy poor that hates other filthy poors.

[Dickie Dee]

ah-uh, you don't understand Beardo, he might be a filthy poor now but he believes in an America where he'll be a millionare next year, just cuz - so don't be fucking up his imagined future tax returns.

Now, how he'll get there, perhaps his bald eagle commemorative plate ebay store will finally take off, i still believe beardo 

[Phoenix Dark]

He needs his own title, ie Joe the Plumber

[Fresh Prince]

Beardo the hobo

[Oblivion]

Your pic wasn't showing up for me so I rehosted it for you.

Thank ye. 

[AdmiralViscen]

Beardo annihilated

[Dickie Dee]

How does he do it?

I wonder what would happen IRL if you looked in the mirror and said 'ABORTION' 3 times. Since I really don't think I'd enjoy JayDubya as a houseguest, I'm too scared to try.

[Brehvolution]

 

[Phoenix Dark]

god I sure hate the constitutional fetish. and yet most of them are perfectly fine with American citizens being detained indefinitely, assassinated, and having their Miranda and religious rights waived in the name of freedom and brown hatin'.

Makes me want to write a Left Behind fanfic where the tea party movement ushers in the anti-Christ

[Mandark]

The people that still want to pass the bill then have to pare it down, or wait.  The "CRA of 1965" could have been much better for the delay.

The Bore Presents part 57 of "JayDubya's How The Civil Rights Movement Probably Happened, According to My Models", an ongoing series.

[Phoenix Dark]

Flawed legislation is bad legislation. If only our law makers were as through as Blizzard Entertainment

[brawndolicious]

Flawed legislation is bad legislation. If only our law makers were as through as Blizzard Entertainment

That would be cool because then they would have never finished the second amendment with how fast gun technology/culture changed.

[AdmiralViscen]

The people that still want to pass the bill then have to pare it down, or wait.  The "CRA of 1965" could have been much better for the delay.

The Bore Presents part 57 of "JayDubya's How The Civil Rights Movement Probably Happened, According to My Models", an ongoing series.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I listen to Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh while working.  I find it amusing that they gush over the new iPhone and Apple products in general.

If anyone needs another reason to avoid Apple products, this should be it.

[Phoenix Dark]

god I sure hate the constitutional fetish. and yet most of them are perfectly fine with American citizens being detained indefinitely, assassinated, and having their Miranda and religious rights waived in the name of freedom and brown hatin'.

Makes me want to write a Left Behind fanfic where the tea party movement ushers in the anti-Christ

She said the founding fathers set up the constitution to make sure their were equal rights for people of all races and origins (not religions, though...) and then she railed on schools for not teaching about the founding fathers.

All races and religions except black people? 

[Brehvolution]

I listen to Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh while working.  I find it amusing that they gush over the new iPhone and Apple products in general.

If anyone needs another reason to avoid Apple products, this should be it.

Simple advertising.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I listen to Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh while working.  I find it amusing that they gush over the new iPhone and Apple products in general.

If anyone needs another reason to avoid Apple products, this should be it.

Simple advertising.

When Rush said (to paraphrase), "We use Macs for everything in our office!" it put me off on Apple products for five years.

[Dickie Dee]

if only games could be developed by internet champions whose lack of practical experience in running a project given finite resources only means they will refuse to be hampered by such concepts and will spir them on to greatness - every game would be a AAA+ revolution  :'(
 
if only gov't could be created by internet champions whose ignorance about how people and society actually function only means they will refuse to be hampered by such concepts and will spir them on to greatness - we would all exist in a perfect self-governing utopia  :'(

[Phoenix Dark]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/05/opinion/05krugman.html?_r=1

[Beardo]

Krugman looks like an adult version of the kid everyone made fun of in elementary school. The kid, whose mother dressed him, and who always had an extra pair of pants in his cubby because he would shit himself every so often.

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[Dickie Dee]

looks like an adult version of the kid everyone made fun of in elementary school. The kid, whose mother dressed him, and who always had an extra pair of pants in his cubby because he would shit himself every so often.

http://www.youngrepublicans.com/

[Ichirou]

Krugman looks like an adult version of the kid everyone made fun of in elementary school. The kid, whose mother dressed him, and who always had an extra pair of pants in his cubby because he would shit himself every so often.

Sounds like you're projecting, bro.

[Eric P]

looks like an adult version of the kid everyone made fun of in elementary school. The kid, whose mother dressed him, and who always had an extra pair of pants in his cubby because he would shit himself every so often.

http://www.youngrepublicans.com/

up to the minute action points!

NRA Sues to Destroy Gun Records:  The National Rifle Association, warning that "a federal police force" is illegally compiling information on gun buyers, has filed suit against Attorney General Janet Reno to require the records used for the instant background check system be destroyed immediately.

[Human Snorenado]

Krugman looks like an adult version of the kid everyone made fun of in elementary school. The kid, whose mother dressed him, and who always had an extra pair of pants in his cubby because he would shit himself every so often.

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With well-reasoned and fact sourced arguments like those, it's a wonder your side is out of power.

[Phoenix Dark]

dude 1: *posts article*
dude 2: wow the author of that article sure is ugly. must have had a tough childhood

[Oblivion]

Even Reagan Wasn't a Republican.

Kind of old, but here's a pretty interesting article. I made a post about the subject a while ago, but this this article includes more info and more Republican presidents.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Reagan, Nixon, etc. were far superior to the current crap...er I mean crop of current GOP members because when their policies were unpopular, they would moderate their policies.  Post 1994 Republicans just keep pushing themselves further to the right, not really caring whether those views are supported by public opinion.  Now they're just the party of blind outrage, who will score some victories over the muddling incompetence of the Obama administration.  Although I could see those GOP victories reverse in 2012 if they fail to produce anything though I've been wrong before

Krugman looks like an adult version of the kid everyone made fun of in elementary school. The kid, whose mother dressed him, and who always had an extra pair of pants in his cubby because he would shit himself every so often.

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Speaking from experience bro?  Beardo seems to be this socially marginalized poor kid who probably got made fun of at school for shitting his pants in the classroom.  Makes sense.

[Beardo]

Krugman looks like an adult version of the kid everyone made fun of in elementary school. The kid, whose mother dressed him, and who always had an extra pair of pants in his cubby because he would shit himself every so often.

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With well-reasoned and fact sourced arguments like those, it's a wonder your side is out of power.

[Mandark]

Well, it would be nice if we had better quality control so that the latest updates didn't break the game.  Even with all the bugs, it was arguably better at launch.  I mean, some of the patches improved the gameplay and accessibility, but most of them have been junk.

Mmm hmm.  Tell us about how much more free people were back then.

[Eric P]

hey, one of our vice presidents was free to up and kill a motherfucker then flee to Louisiana and plot to take over half the continent like a super villain

now biden says something dumb and we get all up in arms

i think jay dub may be onto something

in other news, i found this hilarious

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/07/angle-sends-cease-and-desist-to-reid-for-reposting-her-own-website.php?ref=fpa

The short version of the story is as follows: After the former state Rep won Nevada's Republican Senate primary, Angle's campaign took down most of its website, and later replaced it with a relaunched version that in some ways toned down her right-wing rhetoric. But Internet pages are rarely ever forgotten -- the Reid campaign saved the old version, and put up a website called "The Real Sharron Angle," reproducing the old content.

Then, they say, the Angle campaign sent them a cease-and-desist letter, claiming misuse of copyrighted materials in the reposting of the old website -- which was, of course, being posted for the purposes of ridiculing Angle. The Reid campaign has in fact taken down the site, rerouting visitors to another website that goes after Angle's positions, "Sharron's Underground Bunker."