"A black sheriff?!": The Official Topic of Obama and New Era American Politics

[Human Snorenado]

Let's look at those, tho:

green shinobi- back posting under a different name
that one crippled racist guy (forgot his name)- seriously fucked in the head, no one misses him
abrader- borderline distinguished mentally-challenged
G- back posting under a different name

Other people have been banned too, including shake, cheebs etc.  And diablos.  Can't forget that cunt.

[Phoenix Dark]

I will take a 3 month ban bet with anyone that Cain will not win one primary.

Accepted. Not because I think Cain will win any, but because a 3 month ban wouldn't hurt me nearly as much as you. Consider the bet on.

*shakes hand*

[AdmiralViscen]

Cheebs is back too lol

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SYNBIOS

it was on the tip of my tongue the whole time

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i actually kind of liked abrader

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[Oblivion]

I will take a 3 month ban bet with anyone that Cain will not win one primary.

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I hate to say it, but despite the fact that that song is made by a tea bagger FOR tea baggers, I have to say it's pretty catchy.

[Oblivion]

[Great Rumbler]

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[MrAngryFace]

All I was thinking is 'that dude needs to brush his teeth.'

[Phoenix Dark]

yea 

don't smoke, boys and girls

[Phoenix Dark]

 

[Howard Alan Treesong]

Cain's latest ad is his weirdest yet:

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[Joe Molotov]

Clearly Herman Cain needs to put Tim & Eric in charge of his campaign.

[MrAngryFace]

Smart people- not always doin good things

[Oblivion]

But wait:

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/paul-ryan-heritage-foundation-speech-6530510

Paul Ryan Is Living in a Fantasy Land Older Than Ayn Rand

I got the second article from Nouriel Roubini's twitter.   

Was just going to post that. Charlie Pierce has been killing it lately.

[Phoenix Dark]

Paul Ryan IS smart. So is Larry Summers. And Newt Gingrich. Being smart doesn't mean you're right on much of anything.

I especially like how Ryan accuses Obama of dividing people when Ryan is a unapologetic Randite. Nearly all of his speeches separate people into classes: parasites, Americans, and American business people.

[Oblivion]

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[AdmiralViscen]

Annihilated

Obama should take that ad, without the racist imagery

[Dickie Dee]

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/paul-ryan-heritage-foundation-speech-6530510[/quote]

Ladies and gentlemen, we present to you today's worst paragraph in political rhetoric, courtesy of Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Dickens),

LOL, nailed it

[Oblivion]

This week's episode of Real Time was pretty good. Bill Maher had Grover Norquist on and did a pretty good job takin him to task.  Shame he didn't have more time with him. Then later he had Ron Christie on, and pretty much the whole panel tore him a new one when it came to Iraq. It was awesome.



http://www.hbo.com/real-time-with-bill-maher/index.html#/real-time-with-bill-maher/episodes/0/230-episode/video/230-october-28-overtime.html/eNrjcmbO0CzLTEnNd8xLzKksyUx2zs8rSa0oUc-PSYEJBSSmp-ol5qYyFzLnszECoXRiaUl+QU5ipW1JUWkqJyMjAG2-Fzg=

[Phoenix Dark]

Ron Christie looks like David Brooks' black twin

But seriously, that was one of the worst displays of carrying water I've ever seen. Even funnier if this insistence that Iraq was not only justified, but effective...whereas in conservative land, Libya was justified but...ineffective? Because we led from behind by getting NATO, the UN, and Arab countries on board, providing the world's greatest air support, and eventually nailing Gaddafi's ground convoy from the air which allowed him to be captured. All for 1 billion dollars and no American lives lost.

Man, I wonder what HW thinks about all this ragging on coalition buildin', cost effective, American life preservin' winning war shit.

[Oblivion]

[Cheebo]

Just came here to post that. 

He has no idea how to answer questions. His response to 999 attacks was always just yelling NO YOU ARE WRONG with no explanation and now this.

How the hell is he managing his polling numbers still? It is insane.

Man, I wonder what HW thinks about all this ragging on coalition buildin', cost effective, American life preservin' winning war shit.

Bob Woodward in one of those Bush books he wrote said HW wasn't really on board with the invasion of Iraq but kept his mouth pretty tightly shut about it since well it was his son and all. As far as I could tell HW was more in the Colin Powell camp, against it but too loyal to man up and do anything about it.

[Brehvolution]

Saw this over the weekend, pretty fucked up if true.

[Mupepe]

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what did they give him in this one? 

[Phoenix Dark]

The response to this is just another case of Cain being proven as not a real candidate. The first response from his camp was that they weren't aware of anything, Cain barely remembered any of this, etc. Now it's pure denial and Cain is saying he was falsely accused.


I wouldn't be surprised if Cain was telling the truth; settlements don't point to guilt all the time. And maybe conservatives will rally around him, defending him from this librul smear.

Or maybe Mitt Romney is the luckiest politician since Obama in 2003/4

[MrAngryFace]

Buddy > Romney

Why cant conservatives want a decent candidate?

[Phoenix Dark]

Cain's press speech live at the National Press Club
http://www.c-span.org/Events/Herman-Cain-Visits-Washington/10737425093-1/

"If 10% is good enough for God, 9% should be good enough for the federal government" 

brilliant

[Brehvolution]

  That's good.

[Joe Molotov]

Watch out Dems, there's a new black sheriff in town!

[Stoney Mason]

I've barely been following politics lately but this line is funniest thing I've seen in ages in reference to Cain.

Limbaugh pronounced himself deeply offended by the piece, saying that it trafficked in the "ugliest racial stereotypes"

[Phoenix Dark]

I've barely been following politics lately but this line is funniest thing I've seen in ages in reference to Cain.

Limbaugh pronounced himself deeply offended by the piece, saying that it trafficked in the "ugliest racial stereotypes"

That's pretty standard coming from conservatives, some of whom seem to think the only racism in America either revolves around black people against white people, or white liberals against black conservatives.

Obviously there are white liberals who make pretty pathetic comments towards black conservatives, saying things they aren't entitled to say; I've defended Cain against charges of him being an "Uncle Tom" many times this year. At the end of the day so much of left v right boils down to your opinion on government's role in society and economic policy. Not race. And then there are social issues, many of which black people agree with conservatives on (abortion, gays, etc)

[benjipwns]

Full thing:

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[Phoenix Dark]

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/11/ann_coulter_our_blacks_are_so_much_better_than_the.php?ref=fpa

[Cheebo]

I am starting to wonder if this whole Cain thing instead of destroying him will actually end up helping him since it is making him a victim of the "librul media" and rather than conservatives attacking him they are attacking the media, their favorite enemy next to muslim socialist dicators from kenya.


Not that he'll win a single primary anyway.

[Phoenix Dark]

Good to see you agree that Cain won't win a single primary

[Cheebo]

I still say you guys are over estimating GOP intelligence. He still has a good chance of at least winning one.

I'd pay more attention to his poll numbers if he had an actual functioning campaign.

[Phoenix Dark]

Yea, the man literally doesn't have a functioning campaign staff...anywhere.

[Joe Molotov]

He has to steal his tax plans from Sim City.

[Brehvolution]

Yea, the man literally doesn't have a functioning campaign staff...anywhere.

Do any of them? All I see are 7 people gallivanting around the country mostly spewing the same fox soundbites on their donors dime. They are just milking it for as long as they can.

Private jets? check
Lavish dinners? check
Expensive clothes? check
Offering solutions to today's problems?

[Phoenix Dark]

No, I mean like people working phones in primary states, campaign HQs people passing out fliers, etc. He has a few people in Iowa and that's about it.

[ToxicAdam]

Just read the news on the California train. It would be hilarious if it weren't so sad and predictable. I'm having a good laugh at all the train fetishists in the GAF thread trying to downplay it.  It's the exact thing that Kasich warned about when he turned down the federal poison pill for the Ohio train and was widely derided for it.  At least the west coast train is something worth building.

[Mandark]

train fetishists

Eh?

[Oblivion]

Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry on Tuesday advised protesters in the Occupy movement to worry less about income inequality.

“You know, we have young people who are today occupying Wall Street, that there are some people out there that are making too much money,” the Texas governor said at an education forum in Des Moines, Iowa.“And if somebody were to ask me what the best advice that I could give them? It would be that money is probably the most highly overrated thing in the world.”

“It’s good to have some,” he admitted. “Because I’ve been without and I’ve had some, and it’s better to have some.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/11/01/rick-perry-on-income-inequality-money-is-highly-overrated/

[TakingBackSunday]

what the fuck does that even mean? 

guy is drunk again

[Great Rumbler]

Rich Guy: What's with you poor people anyway? Money's actually pretty overrated, to be honest.

[Joe Molotov]

Reading Rick Perry's wiki page:

[Perry] was elected senior class social secretary, and was also elected as one of A&M's five yell leaders (a popular Texas A&M tradition analogous to male cheerleaders).[14] Perry graduated in 1972 with a Bachelor of Science degree in animal science with a 2.5 GPA.

Future leader of the free world

[Phoenix Dark]

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/andy-levy-accuses-ann-coulter-of-playing-the-race-card-in-tense-red-eye-clip/
annihilated

She takes so much pleasure in digging her own grave.

[Oblivion]

http://news.yahoo.com/poll-economy-fix-americans-pick-reagan-over-roosevelt-164905667.html

Murrika.  :'( 

[Joe Molotov]

The poll also found that 68 percent of Americans think Secretary of State Hillary Clinton would make the best Democratic vice presidential candidate if Joe Biden doesn’t remain on the ticket next year.

Feels bad, man.

[Cheebo]

I bet some really good money he won't dump Biden. Not a chance it is happening, polling or not.

[Trurl]

Saw this over the weekend, pretty fucked up if true.

Give a warning before linking to a NYT story.  Over the three browsers that I use, I can only read 60 free stories a month.

[Phoenix Dark]

I bet some really good money he won't dump Biden. Not a chance it is happening, polling or not.

I wouldn't vote if Obama dropped Biden based on political reasons. We'd all be better off if Obama had listened to Biden on Afghanistan imo

[Phoenix Dark]

Mark Block just destroyed Cain's campaign, holy shit:

Block mentioned almost in passing that a radio talk show receptionist in Iowa thought Cain's comments were "inappropriate." With no more context than that, audience members did not know whether Block was referring to the Politco story or a new allegation. Only member of the overflow audience shook his head during Block's answer and whispered, "Holy crap."

http://decoded.nationaljournal.com/2011/11/cains-message-may-be-up-in-smo.php

Iowa radio host accuses Herman Cain of 'inappropriate' remarks

"Like awkward/inappropriate things he's said to two females on my staff, that the fact the guy's wife is never around...that's almost always a warning flag to me," Deace wrote. "But I chose to leave that stuff out [of the opinion piece] and make it about his record and not the personal stuff."

Pressed about what exactly Cain said to the employees of his show, Deace responded by describing how he himself treats his staff.

"Many a man has been done in by the inability to control his urges,” Deace wrote. “I am no different and just as vulnerable as any other man, which is why I put safeguards around me and hold myself accountable to my wife and other men in my life. Especially since I have very talented employees that happen to be women. I go out of my way to treat them like my sisters. For example, I wouldn't tell them or any other woman I am not married to nor related to how pretty she is."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/67478.html

I've been following Steve Deace on twitter for awhile. He's very far right, a fundamentalist Christian...but I've posted on his site, listened to his show, and he's even responded to me on twitter; although mainly I've talked to him about college football, as he's a Michigan Wolverines fan. Fun guy, far right politics aside.

All that being said, he's been anti-Cain for some time (and fiercely anti-Romney). His comments, taken in context with this Perry pollster who is saying he knows what Cain did...
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/11/gop-consultant-i-saw-herman-cain-harass-women.php?ref=fpblg

...should make it very clear that Cain is being destroyed by the right, not the left.

[TakingBackSunday]

Who does Deace like, then?  Perry?

 

[Phoenix Dark]

He hates Perry due to immigration. From what I've read/heard he likes Bachman and Santorum. Shit makes no sense. You're never going to find a candidate you agree with on 100% of shit. Perry was governor of a border state with Mexico, of course he had a moderate take on immigration. Same with George Bush - they couldn't afford to play politics, as they have to actually deal with the problem.

Perry is far right, handsome, was a "successful" governor in terms of jobs growth (bullshit, I know), has always been pro-life, and is a firm Christian. So what the fuck is the tea party doing by supporting one idiot after another who has no chance at beating Obama? Perry's numbers are shitty against Obama too, but he certainly has a better chance than Bachmann or Santorum jeez.

So instead they're going to fight until a formerly pro choice, pro gay rights northeast governor who passed the blueprint for Obamacare with Edward Kennedy's help wins the nom. This is hilarious

[TakingBackSunday]

Obama's got this shit

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I heard that Herman Cain was singing in a press conference or some shit like that.

Perry, like Cain, are passing fancies who try their best to lick the collective tea party asshole.  However the tea party is a bunch of fickle shitwits and kissing their asses basically means that it will be Christmas for the Democrats next year in terms of embarrassing shit that they can use.  Eventually they will circle their wagons around Romney, who is the only candidate who is somewhat viable at this point.  Bachmann is essentially finished and I don't even know what the fuck Gingrich is doing anymore.  I think Herman Cain is trying to angle for some Fox News program or some shit because there is no way that he has a chance.

[Phoenix Dark]

Actually Gingrich's poll numbers have been improving for a couple months; he's currently in fourth in most polls. Cain is pretty much done once these women come forward, and at that point Gingrich will be right there ready to capitalize as the tea party flavor of the month.

Interestingly, Gingrich challenged Cain to a Lincoln-Douglass type 3 hour debate, and Cain accepted. It was supposed to happen in a week or so, but this sex news has changed things. So Gingrich was planning on annihilating Cain before Cain annihilated himself.

[Cheebo]

Obama's got this shit

Against Romney? Eh. It's 50-50.

[Oblivion]

Interestingly, Gingrich challenged Cain to a Lincoln-Douglass type 3 hour debate

Which one's supposed to be representing the union in this match up?