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Brehvolution · « **Reply #14820 on:** November 15, 2011, 09:47:24 AM »

This is bullshit
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-scalia-thomas-20111114,0,7978224.story

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The day the Supreme Court gathered behind closed doors to consider the politically divisive question of whether it would hear a challenge to President Obama’s healthcare law, two of its justices, Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas, were feted at a dinner sponsored by the law firm that will argue the case before the high court.

And in keeping the tradition of projection:

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Moreover, conservatives argue that it’s Justice Elena Kagan who has an ethical issue, not Scalia and Thomas. Kagan served as solicitor general in the Obama administration when the first legal challenges to the law were brought at the trial court level. Her critics have pushed for Kagan to recuse herself from hearing the case, saying that she was too invested in defending the law then to be impartial now. Kagan has given no indication she will do so.

Legally, it doesn't violate ethic rules. I wonder who makes the rules?

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #14821 on:** November 15, 2011, 09:55:24 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on November 15, 2011, 12:05:42 AM

On a side note, I guess I'm the only person who first heard the word "largesse" during the pilot of Arrested Development, and initially thought Howard was saying "large ass" huh?

Of course that's what you thought he said, PD, you're black.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #14822 on:** November 15, 2011, 11:12:03 AM »

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As Paul mentioned, as expected the Supreme Court will be hearing the case. Perhaps the most interesting thing is that the Court will be having a longer-than-usual argument about the severability issue alone. I think this should make clear that there is a very real chance that the Supreme Court will strike down at least part of the bill, and also that the possibility of striking down the whole bill is in play.

The stakes of this issue are huge — I believe you would have to go back to the New Deal to find a central part of the domestic agenda of a new President struck down so quickly. More thoughts on this tomorrow.

http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2011/11/the-court-and-the-aca

So yea, because there is no severability clause in the ACA, the SC strike down the entire law. good job dems

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #14823 on:** November 15, 2011, 12:44:18 PM »

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/45297659#45297659

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #14824 on:** November 15, 2011, 08:49:57 PM »

benjipwns · « **Reply #14825 on:** November 15, 2011, 11:04:56 PM »

Newt is peaking at the right time to allow Santorum to be the next anti-Romney in time for Iowa right?

Right?

$:-\$

Mandark · « **Reply #14826 on:** November 16, 2011, 12:26:17 AM »

Santorum, Huntsman, and RON PAUL!!!! seem to be the only candidates who haven't gotten one of these bubbles in the national polls. Considering the likes of Perry, Bachmann, Cain, and f'n Donald Trump have all managed to do that much, I'm not sure what to conclude.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #14827 on:** November 16, 2011, 12:31:45 AM »

Hunstman doesn't appeal to the kind of people who are wandering from candidate to candidate like patients on the dementia floor at an old folks home looking for a relative to get that bump. Ron Paul is Ron Paul and will get the people who will support Ron Paul, all 10,000 of them or so. Santorum has a real chance imo to get some serious action, especially if there's some sort of culture war issue that comes up.

drew · « **Reply #14828 on:** November 16, 2011, 12:34:50 AM »

i liked huntsman and i'm going to vote paul.

<- maverick

benjipwns · « **Reply #14829 on:** November 16, 2011, 12:45:04 AM »

That's what I was thinking is that Santorum is "right" on all the issues to get the listless anti-Romney bloc. Super strength social conservative who wants to cut taxes and bomb the brown people. Plus he's angry! And he's not Romney. Doesn't want us all to die at the hands of secular Muslims like Ron Paul, doesn't work with the enemy like Newt and RINO Huntsman, won't have time to flame out under pressure like Perry and Cain.

Nice, safe, anti-Romney pick. Sorta like Huckabee's late surge when everyone else fell apart and they didn't want McCain (RINO) or Romney.

I think Huntsman is a non-starter despite the media's strange desire for him to be over Johnson and Roemer (also successful Governor's and when they are listed get 1% in the polls) because he's perceived as Romney-lite at best. Mormon Governor who also passed SOCIALIST health care, but unlike Romney, he worked for that Kenyan Marxist in the White House. Clearly an Obama plant. A literal Mandarin Candidate!

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #14830 on:** November 16, 2011, 12:49:12 AM »

Huckabee had an early surge. Didn't he win Iowa?

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #14831 on:** November 16, 2011, 12:49:58 AM »

Santorum is SO angry on stage. like "I brought my dead baby fetus home to meet my family and THIS is the thanks I get? Fuck you people"

benjipwns · « **Reply #14832 on:** November 16, 2011, 12:51:29 AM »

Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on November 16, 2011, 12:49:12 AM

Huckabee had an early surge. Didn't he win Iowa?

I mean in terms of the year build up to Iowa, he was almost non-existent in the polls until Rudy fell apart, Thompson lost his lead, etc. Then Huckabee shot up in the Iowa and national polls in mid-November and December.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #14833 on:** November 16, 2011, 12:54:25 AM »

True, true.

And yeah, Santorum has pretty much everything he needs to play big w/ the old, scared & honky crowd:

-hasn't ever really taken a non-orthodox GOP/movement conservative stance on anything to my knowledge
-hates the gays
-hates the non-honky Americans (people who do the lawns and clean and such)
-hates furr'ners

He just needs to figure out how to get people at FOX to tell people they should be excited about him.

Oblivion · « **Reply #14834 on:** November 16, 2011, 02:26:27 AM »

I used to think that Santorum couldn't gain any leads because even if you agree with him, he comes off an an immensely unlikable dick. But then I realized 1) that hasn't stopped Newt somehow and 2) since when did tea baggers care see being an outright asshole as a negative?

On an unrelated note, here's a really interesting article from Rolling Stone:

How the GOP became the party of the rich.

It has a few tidbits in there about Bush that I'm sure a bunch of people will find surprising.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #14835 on:** November 16, 2011, 11:05:40 AM »

The comments section in that RS article has some real gems. People defending their constitutional right to be stolen from.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #14836 on:** November 16, 2011, 01:30:45 PM »

Probably only amusing to me and like 3 other people, none of whom will read this thread but whatever: http://mightygodking.com/index.php/2011/11/15/stab-at-relevance-part-4-stabba-labba-ding-dong/

Political mtg cards.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #14837 on:** November 16, 2011, 02:08:18 PM »

Those were very well done.

Pizzawalk

fuuuuuuuu

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #14838 on:** November 16, 2011, 05:15:54 PM »

http://jezebel.com/5859593/gabrielle-giffords-incredible-tv-interview

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #14839 on:** November 16, 2011, 06:21:45 PM »

If Obama made her his VP he would win easily

pickle · « **Reply #14840 on:** November 16, 2011, 06:26:15 PM »

Oblivion · « **Reply #14841 on:** November 16, 2011, 06:45:36 PM »

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Newt Gingrich is the strongest Republican candidate when matched head to head against Democratic President Barack Obama, according to a McClatchy-Marist Poll released Tuesday.

The former speaker of the House of Representatives is neck and neck with the incumbent president, back just 2 percentage points among registered voters. Obama leads 47 percent to 45 percent.

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney is next closest, trailing Obama by 4 percentage points. In that matchup, Obama leads 48 percent to 44 percent.

Rep. Ron Paul of Texas is the third best bet for the Republicans right now, 8 points back from Obama. No other Republican is within single digits of Obama. The survey has an error margin of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

Told you guys, with a shitty economy, people will settle for any Republican that can speak in complete sentences. :'(

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #14842 on:** November 16, 2011, 07:59:54 PM »

The View has competition!

Barry Egan · « **Reply #14843 on:** November 16, 2011, 08:11:25 PM »

I'm still partially convinced that Victoria Jackson is engaged in an extremely ambitious troll of the republican party. Her comedic timing is just a little too on the nose.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #14844 on:** November 16, 2011, 08:13:51 PM »

I kinda think word would have been leaked by now. But yea, either she's a master troll taping what will be the greatest documentary ever, OR she's just insane.

Oblivion · « **Reply #14845 on:** November 16, 2011, 08:29:24 PM »

Never forget:

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201003260027

Barry Egan · « **Reply #14846 on:** November 16, 2011, 08:42:56 PM »

Quote from: Oblivion on November 16, 2011, 06:45:36 PM

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Newt Gingrich is the strongest Republican candidate when matched head to head against Democratic President Barack Obama, according to a McClatchy-Marist Poll released Tuesday.

The former speaker of the House of Representatives is neck and neck with the incumbent president, back just 2 percentage points among registered voters. Obama leads 47 percent to 45 percent.

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney is next closest, trailing Obama by 4 percentage points. In that matchup, Obama leads 48 percent to 44 percent.

Rep. Ron Paul of Texas is the third best bet for the Republicans right now, 8 points back from Obama. No other Republican is within single digits of Obama. The survey has an error margin of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

Told you guys, with a shitty economy, people will settle for any Republican that can speak in complete sentences. :'(

But Obama is leading in both polls. And he's doing even better against the most likely nominee.

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #14847 on:** November 17, 2011, 12:12:26 AM »

benjipwns · « **Reply #14848 on:** November 17, 2011, 01:28:38 AM »

Pawlenty probably bailed out too early. Lack of money hasn't appeared to hurt anyone else. And he's a perfect generic Republican to be anti-Romney.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #14849 on:** November 17, 2011, 02:46:58 AM »

Quote from: benjipwns on November 17, 2011, 01:28:38 AM

Pawlenty probably bailed out too early. Lack of money hasn't appeared to hurt anyone else. And he's a perfect generic Republican to be anti-Romney.

I agree 100%. His sin (climate change) was pretty minor compared to Romney, Perry, etc. And while he wasn't charismatic he could still make the electability argument. Plus I predicted he'd win the nom :'(

Must suck for him as he replays the campaign in his mind. From not being willing to challenge Romney to his face (the Obamney gaffe) to his super early exit, he really shat the bed. I doubt Santorum has much money either, hell he hasn't had a real job in years - yet he's still in the race.

Oblivion · « **Reply #14850 on:** November 17, 2011, 08:18:18 AM »

Quote from: My F*cking Grandpa on November 16, 2011, 08:42:56 PM

Quote from: Oblivion on November 16, 2011, 06:45:36 PM
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Newt Gingrich is the strongest Republican candidate when matched head to head against Democratic President Barack Obama, according to a McClatchy-Marist Poll released Tuesday.

The former speaker of the House of Representatives is neck and neck with the incumbent president, back just 2 percentage points among registered voters. Obama leads 47 percent to 45 percent.

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney is next closest, trailing Obama by 4 percentage points. In that matchup, Obama leads 48 percent to 44 percent.

Rep. Ron Paul of Texas is the third best bet for the Republicans right now, 8 points back from Obama. No other Republican is within single digits of Obama. The survey has an error margin of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

Told you guys, with a shitty economy, people will settle for any Republican that can speak in complete sentences. :'(

But Obama is leading in both polls. And he's doing even better against the most likely nominee.

Right, but it's just the thought of a vile piece of shit like Gingrich trailing Obama by such small margins that's discomforting.

Oblivion · « **Reply #14851 on:** November 17, 2011, 09:17:26 PM »

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Herman Cain campaigned in New Hampshire today, where he was asked to explain his child-like incoherence on international affairs. The Republican presidential candidate said knowing details isn’t important. Cain added:

“We need a leader, not a reader.”

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_11/quote_of_the_day_23033562.php

Real murika

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #14852 on:** November 17, 2011, 09:19:55 PM »

Reading books is for hippie, commu-nazis losers.

Boogie · « **Reply #14853 on:** November 17, 2011, 09:43:22 PM »

Quote from: Oblivion on November 17, 2011, 09:17:26 PM

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Herman Cain campaigned in New Hampshire today, where he was asked to explain his child-like incoherence on international affairs. The Republican presidential candidate said knowing details isn’t important. Cain added:

“We need a leader, not a reader.”

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_11/quote_of_the_day_23033562.php

Real murika

Holy shit.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #14854 on:** November 17, 2011, 11:26:03 PM »

Is this the worst batch of presidential candidates...ever? I remember the 2004 dems being pretty laughable, but this is just a riot.

Oblivion · « **Reply #14855 on:** November 18, 2011, 12:45:09 AM »

http://wonkette.com/456567/fox-news-names-white-house-shooting-suspect-occupy-shooter#more-456567

So I'm not surprised that Fox would somehow tie the White House shooter to OSW or any other left leaning group - and was actually musing about that just this morning - but I'm still trying to wrap my head around their rationale.

It's like when that one anti-tax tea bagger crashed a plane into a building that housed an IRS office a few years ago and the righties tried to say he was actually a liberal cause he smoked weed.

Mandark · « **Reply #14856 on:** November 18, 2011, 12:46:10 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on November 17, 2011, 11:26:03 PM

Is this the worst bath of presidential candidates...ever? I remember the 2004 dems being pretty laughable, but this is just a riot.

The idea of any bath involving Newt Gingrich sounds pretty grody, to be honest.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #14857 on:** November 18, 2011, 12:56:54 AM »

long day at work :'(

although I'd rather bathe with Bachman than Carol Mosley-Braun

benjipwns · « **Reply #14858 on:** November 18, 2011, 01:04:48 AM »

Quote from: Oblivion on November 18, 2011, 12:45:09 AM

but I'm still trying to wrap my head around their rationale.

They were claiming police said he hid out at the Occupy DC camp afterwards. I also heard he read a newspaper story about Occupy Wall Street weeks before the shooting.

I don't think that plane guy was a teabagger wasn't he facing like a bunch of audits and had some weird theory about how GM, George W. Bush and the Catholic Church caused 9/11 so they could bail out the airlines and were attacking him with the IRS to cover up that he figured it out.

And by weird theory, I mean the truth.

benjipwns · « **Reply #14859 on:** November 18, 2011, 03:08:14 AM »

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #14860 on:** November 18, 2011, 03:17:32 AM »

I wonder how liberal sites/blogs/media would react if someone with the slightest Tea Party ties shot at the WH, and later a gathering of tea partiers (no matter how small) held a moment of silence for him.

Oblivion · « **Reply #14861 on:** November 18, 2011, 03:23:43 AM »

Quote from: benjipwns on November 18, 2011, 03:08:14 AM

The fuck?

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #14862 on:** November 18, 2011, 10:10:16 AM »

Quote from: Oblivion on November 17, 2011, 09:17:26 PM

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Herman Cain campaigned in New Hampshire today, where he was asked to explain his child-like incoherence on international affairs. The Republican presidential candidate said knowing details isn’t important. Cain added:

“We need a leader, not a reader.”

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_11/quote_of_the_day_23033562.php

Real murika

Wasn't part of his shit answer that he would make better decisions than Obama by knowing all the info?

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #14863 on:** November 18, 2011, 01:25:21 PM »

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on November 18, 2011, 10:10:16 AM

Quote from: Oblivion on November 17, 2011, 09:17:26 PM
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Herman Cain campaigned in New Hampshire today, where he was asked to explain his child-like incoherence on international affairs. The Republican presidential candidate said knowing details isn’t important. Cain added:

“We need a leader, not a reader.”

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_11/quote_of_the_day_23033562.php

Real murika

Wasn't part of his shit answer that he would make better decisions than Obama by knowing all the info?

You must have read that somewhere, guess you don't have what it takes to be a leader.

benjipwns · « **Reply #14864 on:** November 18, 2011, 02:29:09 PM »

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on November 18, 2011, 10:10:16 AM

Wasn't part of his shit answer that he would make better decisions than Obama by knowing all the info?

No, see, he doesn't need to know anything, because he'd ask the experts!

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #14865 on:** November 18, 2011, 04:15:35 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on November 18, 2011, 02:29:09 PM

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on November 18, 2011, 10:10:16 AM
Wasn't part of his shit answer that he would make better decisions than Obama by knowing all the info?
No, see, he doesn't need to know anything, because he'd ask the experts!

Except science experts.

Or health experts.

Or economic experts.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #14866 on:** November 18, 2011, 04:55:29 PM »

Herman Cain's lead Scientician:

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #14867 on:** November 18, 2011, 06:57:56 PM »

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/11/bachmann-solyndra-makes-watergate-looks-like-childs-play.php?ref=fpnewsfeed_beta

what is wrong with you omfgwtfbbq

edit:
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/11/herman-cain-taliban-may-be-infiltrating-libya.php?ref=fpb_beta

what is wrong with you too, omfgwtfbbq

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #14868 on:** November 18, 2011, 07:10:32 PM »

They're just desperate to catch a second wind in time to cash in at the primaries.

Oblivion · « **Reply #14869 on:** November 18, 2011, 09:40:02 PM »

Quote from: JayDubya on November 18, 2011, 07:15:19 AM

Quote from: Oblivion on November 18, 2011, 12:45:09 AM
http://wonkette.com/456567/fox-news-names-white-house-shooting-suspect-occupy-shooter#more-456567

So I'm not surprised that Fox would somehow tie the White House shooter to OSW or any other left leaning group - and was actually musing about that just this morning - but I'm still trying to wrap my head around their rationale.

It's like when that one anti-tax tea bagger crashed a plane into a building that housed an IRS office a few years ago and the righties tried to say he was actually a liberal cause he smoked weed.

So, be honest - how often do you notice when you're doing exactly the thing you're criticizing?

Zero to utter hypocrisy in 50 words.

What was hypocritical about what I said?

Oblivion · « **Reply #14870 on:** November 18, 2011, 11:23:11 PM »

It's pretty depressing when David Letterman does a better job at journalism than, you know, actual journalists:

edit: Wrong link. Here's the full interview:

http://www.cbs.com/late_night/late_show/video/?pid=LCmMsIv86JFQk_PnQRMP_hOot_oatCbh&nrd=1

Mupepe · « **Reply #14871 on:** November 19, 2011, 09:53:47 PM »

Has anyone seen the video of the protesters being pepper sprayed at uc Davis? I've dismissed most of the police brutality videos OWS has posted but yeah... Its kinda chilling and really out of line. Wow.

Boogie · « **Reply #14872 on:** November 19, 2011, 09:59:00 PM »

Quote from: Mupepe on November 19, 2011, 09:53:47 PM

Has anyone seen the video of the protesters being pepper sprayed at uc Davis? I've dismissed most of the police brutality videos OWS has posted but yeah... Its kinda chilling and really out of line. Wow.

I haven't followed OWS stuff very closely, but this seems odd to me.

Pepper spray is lower on the use-of-force model than the baton is, so it's weird you would dismiss previous vids of police whacking protestors with batons, but find pepper spray out of line.

(again, I say this ignorantly without seeing the pepper spray vids myself)

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #14873 on:** November 19, 2011, 10:22:25 PM »

Obviously, those kids were a clear and imminent threat that just had to be removed from that valuable and busy public space.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #14874 on:** November 19, 2011, 11:05:05 PM »

Having been tear gassed and pepper sprayed by riot police before, getting whacked with a baton would be 10x worse.

Anyway, the OWS movement will fizzle out next year, especially when Democrats at the higher levels (whose coffers are currently getting filled from all dat Wall Street cash) start turning their backs on them. They'd much rather get the $1 billion they need to campaign with than depend on OWS.

Mupepe · « **Reply #14875 on:** November 19, 2011, 11:37:09 PM »

Quote from: Boogie on November 19, 2011, 09:59:00 PM

Quote from: Mupepe on November 19, 2011, 09:53:47 PM
Has anyone seen the video of the protesters being pepper sprayed at uc Davis? I've dismissed most of the police brutality videos OWS has posted but yeah... Its kinda chilling and really out of line. Wow.

I haven't followed OWS stuff very closely, but this seems odd to me.

Pepper spray is lower on the use-of-force model than the baton is, so it's weird you would dismiss previous vids of police whacking protestors with batons, but find pepper spray out of line.

(again, I say this ignorantly without seeing the pepper spray vids myself)

The other videos I've seen have included the protesters kinda being dicks and confrontational. This video has nothing like that. Just a dude being a huge dick.

Boogie · « **Reply #14876 on:** November 19, 2011, 11:48:35 PM »

Pepper spray'd in training. That was the most pain I've ever been in. But's it's over within an hour or so.

Was supposed to get tear gassed, but that didn't quite happen. Funny story, I should tell y'all about it some time. But everyone in training says that pepper spray is worse than the gas.

The thing about physical force like the baton is that it has the greater potential for lasting harm/damage, as opposed to gas and spray.

Quote from: The Experiment on November 19, 2011, 11:05:05 PM

Having been tear gassed and pepper sprayed by riot police before, getting whacked with a baton would be 10x worse.

oooh, ooh! Story time, please!

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #14877 on:** November 20, 2011, 12:09:39 AM »

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/11/brithers-attempt-to-remove-obama-from-new-hampshire-primary.php?ref=fpblg_beta

yup

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #14878 on:** November 20, 2011, 12:29:36 AM »

benjipwns · « **Reply #14879 on:** November 20, 2011, 12:33:55 AM »

Uh, is there even going to be a Democratic primary ballot for him to be on?

Seems like a waste of time even for Orly.

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