More on health care from ronpaul.com. It's a bit old, don't know if anyone saw it.
Show: Alex Jones Show
Date: August 5, 2009
Alex Jones: We have the one and only Dr. Ron Paul, Congressman Ron Paul, here to talk about socialized healthcare, he has actually read the subsections and we have them here. Total takeover, he’ll be breaking that down. He’s got bills to beat it and to really fix healthcare, auditing the Fed, we’re going to get into that, and so much more. And he’s a medical doctor and we’ll talk about this flu hype, trying to stampede people into federalization, U.N. control, level 6 pandemic, and a lot more with Congressman Ron Paul.
Congressman, thank you for joining us today.
Ron Paul: Thank you, good to be with you.
Alex Jones: Let’s get into the national socialist healthcare, Obama trying to stonewall people and say “this is no big deal,” but people have now read the bill. You’re a medical doctor and a Congressman; can you tell us what’s really in that bill?
Ron Paul: Well, it is nationalized healthcare on this pretense that it isn’t completely just means there is some transition involved. So their goal is to have a one party payer, which means that they control everything. And there are a lot of other bad things too, like this effort to consult with anybody who is over a certain age and talk to them about end-of-life type of procedures. This bill is just such an outrage. The American people see it for what it is. It is going to cost a lot of money, their care is not going to be improved, and the special interests will be served.
Alex Jones: Congressman, when I was talking to you when we first got you on, you brought up the rebellion against really both parties, the Republicans and Democrats. Doggett being shot down, Republican Congressman, Delaware Congressman, Specter getting chanted down. People saying “We don’t want your socialist big-government healthcare.” That has got to be exciting when their own constituents are shouting them down.
Ron Paul: Yea, and this is different. I don’t remember seeing the people so angry as they are now. But I think what they have discovered is that the government is a failure. It isn’t so much that they’re all saints now and they don’t want the government taking care of them. I think a lot of people have come to the realization that you can’t trust the government. They feel that the government has been promising me all this, and they were going to give me all these free things that wouldn’t to cost anything, and I’d have a good job and live happily ever after. They’re starting to realize now that it’s not so, and they’re going to end up with a lot of debt, and the government can’t be trusted. That’s a healthy start. So, it is our job now to fill in the void and tell them what the role of government ought to be so that we can take all this energy and anger and redirect it.
Alex Jones: Exactly, because you have always said that the danger point is that when we come to this crisis, the collapse of big government, they’re going to try to make the government even bigger and have a total tyranny. We’ve got to be there beforehand and during this, saying “no, let’s get back to the system that’s proven to be the most bountiful, the most free; the beautiful system, the great design our founders gave us.”
Ron Paul: Yeah, and up until now they’ve been able to use fear as their best tactic. Whether it’s on foreign policy issues or domestic policy issues, that’s how that first TARP fund went through. They say, “The whole thing would be collapsing. We have to do this rapidly. Don’t ask any questions. Appropriate 700 billion dollars and we’ll take care of everything.” So if things get worse they’ll say, “Boy, this is more reason than ever for the government to take over.” And of course we still have the threat of martial law coming in because I think they haven’t forgotten about that and I don’t think they’d hesitate to use it.
Alex Jones: Congressman, when we come back I want to talk about the establishment’s response to the majority of House members now wanting to audit the Fed and the people getting angry. Lloyd Doggett and others went on the news and said it was all staged, all fake. It didn’t matter that I found out my neighbor was there, buying groceries at Randall’s in South Austin where I lived, and went over and started chanting. It didn’t matter if one of my dad’s employees in his dental office was there at the meeting, a Democrat who has sent a letter and that she was mad at him. It didn’t matter that it was real. He just says it’s fake. But everywhere people are saying “No, this just sounds like Marie Antoinette – let them eat cake.”
Ron Paul: Yeah. They’ll wake up soon, I think that this is not going to go away very quickly.
Alex Jones: Absolutely, but we’re going to have to break. We’re going to come back and talk more about this. There they are chanting at Lloyd Doggett. Hundreds and hundreds of people literally chasing him from the building, and he says it’s staged. Well, it’s not staged.
Alex Jones: Well, it’s great to have Ron Paul for a full half hour today with his very busy schedule. I have lot of emails here with questions that listeners want me to ask, so let’s go ahead with the questions. We ended that segment with video and audio of Congressman Lloyd Doggett, a big collectivist, being booed off the stage at a Randall’s grocery store here in Austin.
Now I talked to people that were there and they said “We don’t want this.” He said, “I don’t care what you want, I’m going to do it.” I saw him during the Cap and Trade say “I don’t care if I’m getting 5 to 1 calls against this, I’m going to do it.” That seems to be his call sign. And then the media is acting like it’s un-American and bad that citizens would dare chant at him. Is it un-American to go talk to your politicians?
Ron Paul: Well, when we can’t do that then it’s all over, you know. The first amendment tells you something about petitioning Congress and having some redress. So I would say that if they ever get to the point where they want to enforce that where you can’t call down your elected officials, the ballgame is over. But right now I think there is still enough room, you’re still on the radio, I still speak out, I’m still in Congress. So we have a vehicle and the answer is going to be in can we awaking and alert enough people to become activists and rally the cry for freedom.
