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Re: International Politics Thread - UK elections
« Reply #1500 on: May 08, 2015, 04:28:50 AM »
The Tory platform calls for an 8 billion pound increase to the NHS budget. But they're secretly anarchists and it won't exist in five years despite Thatcher being unable to get rid of it with much bigger majorities. :lol

http://www.bbc.com/news/election/2015/manifesto-guide

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Conservative
Main pledges

Increase NHS spending in England by at least £8bn above inflation over the next five years
Seven-day access to GPs by 2020 & same day appointments for over-75s when needed
Integrate health and social care
Improve access to mental health treatments

Labour
Main pledges

Extra £2.5bn funding for the NHS, to pay for 20,000 more nurses, 3,000 midwives and 8,000 GPs
Repeal the Health and Social Care Act and cap the amount of profit private firms can make from the NHS at 5%
Integrate NHS health care and social care
End 15 minute care visits

UKIP
Main pledges

Extra £3bn a year for the NHS by 2020, used to fund 20,000 more nurses, 8,000 GPs and 3,000 midwives
Spend £200m on scrapping hospital car parking charges
Insist migrants and visitors to UK have private health insurance
Extra £1.2bn a year for social care

Lib Dems
Main pledges

Increase real terms NHS funding at least £8bn a year by 2020, starting with an extra £1bn a year until 2018
Integrate health and social care budgets
£3.5bn extra for mental health
That includes £1.25bn for children and teenagers and £250m for pregnant women and new mums with depression

SNP
Key campaign points

Back rise in NHS spending across UK of £24bn by 2020-21 (£9.5bn above inflation)
Deliver a total boost to the NHS Scotland budget of £2bn by 2020-21
SNP MPs will vote against further privatisation of NHS in England
Seek exemption for NHS from the terms of TransAtlantic Trade and Investment Partnership

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Re: International Politics Thread - UK elections
« Reply #1501 on: May 08, 2015, 04:28:53 AM »
I take solace in the fact that WSJ readers won't look nearly as fabulous as I will in assless chaps when their mode of production renders the planet an apocalyptic wasteland.

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« Reply #1502 on: May 08, 2015, 04:32:24 AM »
I'm reading over the Tory party platform, and honestly they sound closer to US Democrats than US Republicans. "Right-leaning" my foot.
That's FAR-RIGHT buster.

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Re: International Politics Thread - UK elections
« Reply #1503 on: May 08, 2015, 04:34:39 AM »
benji if you've never seen the Spooks episode "The Russian," today's the day.

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« Reply #1504 on: May 08, 2015, 04:36:57 AM »
How would you even determine a price for the entire NHS?!?

Always relevant Yes, Minister episode: http://www.veoh.com/watch/v21038684cmxmQW3Q?h1=Yes+Minister+2.1+-+The+Compassionate+Society

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Re: International Politics Thread - UK elections
« Reply #1505 on: May 08, 2015, 07:01:13 AM »
The issue isn't so much that people overstate how bad the tories are, rather they neglect to mention that the other parties are just as garbage.

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« Reply #1506 on: May 08, 2015, 07:07:58 AM »
the #robthisengland tag on Twitter is pure gold rn. bunch of people talking about how they're taking their education and going home without paying the stupid fees. fuck England.
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« Reply #1507 on: May 08, 2015, 10:03:15 AM »
Rupert's American media praising the efforts of Rupert's English media. No way!
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« Reply #1508 on: May 08, 2015, 10:09:20 AM »
Gonna repost this here, more relevant:
http://www.stefan-niggemeier.de/blog/20989/vote-to-keep-britain-great/

This guy is a well know critic of German news media. This is basically his reaction to someone else's article explaining how GB's press aren't "opinion makers". :heh

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« Reply #1509 on: May 08, 2015, 11:51:08 AM »
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a tory majority means that the bbc are going to be on the chopping block.

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« Reply #1510 on: May 08, 2015, 11:59:50 AM »

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« Reply #1511 on: May 08, 2015, 12:14:57 PM »
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a tory majority means that the bbc are going to be on the chopping block.

PD, post if you're okay.

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Re: International Politics Thread - UK elections
« Reply #1512 on: May 09, 2015, 01:06:52 AM »
Saw that on the Guardian :
Save us Bill Gates, you are our only hope

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Re: International Politics Thread - UK elections
« Reply #1513 on: May 11, 2015, 04:35:57 AM »
The two Polish President run-off candidates:


Guy on the left is from the standard European conservative party, soft-euroskeptics. Guy on the right is current President and from the Christian Democrat equivalents, pro-europe.

The Democratic Left Alliance (which in the early 2000s had 200 seats in the Sejm, 75/100 in the Senate and the Presidency) candidate got only 2% of the vote, despite this:


Best candidate was this dude, from the social conservative, euroskeptic Congress of the New Right:

He had some compelling progressive ideas:
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In an interview with The Telegraph, Janusz Korwin-Mikke, who is a rank outsider in Sunday’s presidential poll, said that child abusers should be “very severely punished” but said that pornography created without child abuse should be legal. He also claimed that Margaret Thatcher once told him that it would be better for women if they did not have the vote.

“I can buy pornography at home, I can look at it, I can even have child pornography on my computer – why not, it’s my computer, my home, and I can look,” he said.

“I very strongly object to abuse of children, but that has nothing to do with child pornography. If you create child pornography absolutely in the computer without any child being abused, is it OK or not? It should not be punished. Looking at that is not punishable, it is punishable to abuse children. The founding fathers of the United States would be shocked that somebody can be punished for keeping and looking at something in his own home, it is absolutely against the American constitution.”

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Mr Korwin-Mikke said that relations with Ukip were strained as Mr Farage’s party is “very egotistical,” and by pushing for the UK to leave the EU, risks “leaving [Poland] at the mercy of the Germans and French”.

“In Europe unfortunately it’s the fascists who are triumphing all the time. I sit in the European Parliament, and it looks like Adolf Hitler is still alive, the only difference is that it isn’t anti-Semitic. The idea of the government, state intervention, control of everything, even forbidding the smoking of cigarettes – it’s also the programme of Adolf Hitler. The EU is just a new edition of Adolf Hitler.”

Repeatedly referring to the state as a “slave owner”, Mr Korwin-Mikke argues that all social benefits should be scrapped, and argues that this would stop migrants risking drowning in the Mediterranean to reach Europe.

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“I talked to Lady Thatcher several time and she said it is not good for women that women have the right to vote, because women vote for men,” he said, claiming that Thatcher had said that if more of the MPs voting in the Conservative leadership election in 1975 had been women, she would never have become Prime Minister.

Robin Harris, a former Thatcher aide who has written a biography of her, told The Telegraph that he didn’t believe that the former British Prime Minister would have said that she thought women should not have the vote, saying that “it sounds like garbage to me”.

Asked if he agreed that it would be better for women not to have the vote Mr Korwin-Mikke said: “Of course! Women don’t vote for women.”

Giggling, he added that his mainstream leftist rival Magdalena Ogorek – dubbed “Poland’s most beautiful Presidential candidate” by a Russia Today subsidiary – would be polling considerably higher if only men had the vote.



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Re: International Politics Thread - UK elections
« Reply #1514 on: May 11, 2015, 04:44:49 AM »
Civic Union is more of a big tent party imo, hope Law and Justice takes the L. Fuck that party.

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« Reply #1515 on: May 11, 2015, 04:55:11 AM »
I absolutely love when foreign politicians refer to the US constitution as if it's some sort of impressive document rather than simply being the only constitution short enough for them to actually read through. 


Also, here's your weekly "what will those darned Chinese think of next?" story: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2015/05/05/china-orders-muslim-shopkeepers-to-sell-alcohol-cigarettes-to-weaken-islam/

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Re: International Politics Thread - UK elections
« Reply #1516 on: May 11, 2015, 05:15:41 AM »
Do they just pretend the USC doesn't exist? The constitution's (relative) brevity is more than surpassed by all those titles. :heh

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Re: International Politics Thread - UK elections
« Reply #1517 on: May 11, 2015, 06:05:17 AM »
Civic Union is more of a big tent party imo, hope Law and Justice takes the L. Fuck that party.
In a way, aren't all "contender" Christian Democratic parties like Civic Platform just big tent "Christian values" parties in reality?

Though Civic Platform's well, platform, is a bit more hardcore than most:
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social conservative stances on social and ethical issues, including opposition to abortion, same-sex marriage, soft drug decriminalisation, euthanasia, fetal stem cell research, removal of crosses and other religious symbols in schools and public places, and partially to wide availability of in vitro fertilisation. The party also wants to criminalise gambling and supports religious education in schools. Other socially conservative stances of the party include voting to ban designer drugs and amending the penal code to introduce mandatory chemical castration of paedophiles.

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« Reply #1518 on: May 11, 2015, 08:28:33 AM »
What is up with conservatives and their fucking bow-ties.
Our prominent bow tied politician is a "lefty" from the SPD. He sometimes looks like a mad scientist.

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Re: International Politics Thread - UK elections
« Reply #1519 on: May 11, 2015, 08:33:16 AM »
He'll be starring as Jeremiah Arkham in Batman v. Superman.

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Re: International Politics Thread - UK elections
« Reply #1520 on: May 11, 2015, 06:20:56 PM »
Civic Union is more of a big tent party imo, hope Law and Justice takes the L. Fuck that party.
In a way, aren't all "contender" Christian Democratic parties like Civic Platform just big tent "Christian values" parties in reality?

Though Civic Platform's well, platform, is a bit more hardcore than most:
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social conservative stances on social and ethical issues, including opposition to abortion, same-sex marriage, soft drug decriminalisation, euthanasia, fetal stem cell research, removal of crosses and other religious symbols in schools and public places, and partially to wide availability of in vitro fertilisation. The party also wants to criminalise gambling and supports religious education in schools. Other socially conservative stances of the party include voting to ban designer drugs and amending the penal code to introduce mandatory chemical castration of paedophiles.

I suppose, though speaking of Poland the lunatic right has so many voting choices that I feel the distinction worth making.

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Re: International Politics Thread - UK elections
« Reply #1521 on: May 11, 2015, 09:44:59 PM »
I think the most important thing is that we don't forget Poland.

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« Reply #1522 on: May 11, 2015, 09:57:45 PM »
To do otherwise would be western betrayal. :wag

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« Reply #1523 on: May 11, 2015, 10:12:33 PM »
as someone who's familiarity with Poland post-Solidarity ends with Kwasniewski coopting the old Polish United Worker's Party into the Social Dem party and then integrating into NATO and the EU, can anyone give me a primer on what I've missed?

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« Reply #1524 on: May 13, 2015, 12:37:10 AM »
http://news.yahoo.com/north-korean-defence-minister-executed-korea-intelligence-004740331.html

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North Korean leader Kim Jong-Un has had his defence minister executed with anti-aircraft fire for insubordination and dozing off during formal military rallies, South Korean intelligence said on Wednesday

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« Reply #1525 on: May 13, 2015, 12:40:32 AM »
Well...I guess he won't do that again.
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« Reply #1526 on: May 13, 2015, 01:08:18 AM »
North Korea stories always make me check KCNA:
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New Posters Produced in DPRK

Pyongyang, May 12 (KCNA) -- The DPRK has produced posters encouraging all service personnel and people of the DPRK in the drive for building an economic power.

A poster depicts an agricultural worker calling for bringing about a great turn in agricultural production by actively introducing scientific farming methods including water-saving style farming method.

Another poster fully represents the will of the workers in the fishery field to make big fish hauls in the seas of the country through dynamic fishing drive in hearty response to the militant call of the party to create a new history of big fish hauls.

There is also a poster calling for actively supporting the coal front, vanguard domain of the national economy.

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« Reply #1527 on: May 13, 2015, 08:18:22 AM »
Funny you guys care about polish elections

Problem in poland is the big divide


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« Reply #1528 on: May 13, 2015, 08:19:52 AM »
Shit is still the same now with rural poland voting pis

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« Reply #1529 on: May 13, 2015, 09:30:03 AM »
North Korea stories always make me check KCNA:
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New Posters Produced in DPRK

Pyongyang, May 12 (KCNA) -- The DPRK has produced posters encouraging all service personnel and people of the DPRK in the drive for building an economic power.

A poster depicts an agricultural worker calling for bringing about a great turn in agricultural production by actively introducing scientific farming methods including water-saving style farming method.

Another poster fully represents the will of the workers in the fishery field to make big fish hauls in the seas of the country through dynamic fishing drive in hearty response to the militant call of the party to create a new history of big fish hauls.

There is also a poster calling for actively supporting the coal front, vanguard domain of the national economy.

http://www.kcna.co.jp/item/2015/201505/news12/20150512-07ee.html

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the U.S. is the worst human rights abuser and tundra of human rights.

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Re: International Politics Thread - UK elections
« Reply #1530 on: May 13, 2015, 12:22:27 PM »
Funny you guys care about polish elections

Problem in poland is the big divide

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Woah, this divide is the old partition border.

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« Reply #1532 on: May 17, 2015, 07:39:53 PM »
Ramadi falls to IS:

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Fighters from the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) group have overrun one of the last remaining districts held by government forces in the Iraqi city of Ramadi, security officials have said.

Iraqi special forces soldiers were reported to be fleeing the city on Sunday as the armed group succeeded in breaching their last holdout.
The armed group had earlier made significant gains in its battle to control Ramadi, besieging the army base and killing 15 soldiers in multiple suicide car bomb attacks.

Al Jazeera's Zeina Khodr, reporting from Baghdad, said government officials had requested reinforcements from Shia factions in response to the ISIL advance, a move that could provoke opposition from the government's Sunni tribal allies.

"There are many influential tribes in Anbar who have warned against this decision for some time now," Khodr said.
The involvement of Shia militias has been condemned by leading tribal figure, Sheikh Ali al-Hatim, who said it would be considered an "Iranian occupation".

Chaotic situation

ISIL fighters had seized most of Ramadi, the capital of Anbar province, on Friday planting their flag on the local government headquarters in the centre of the city, but a contingent of Iraqi special forces was holding out in the Malaab neighbourhood.

Security sources said those forces retreated on Sunday to an area east of the city after suffering high casualties.
"We are now surrounded inside the Operations Command by ISIL, and mortars are raining down," a military officer inside the base told the Reuters news agency.

"Daesh fighters are in almost every street. It's a chaotic situation and things are sliding out of control. Ramadi is falling into the hands of Daesh".

If Ramadi were to fall, it would be the first major city to be seized by the insurgents in Iraq since security forces and paramilitary groups began pushing them back last year, helped by air strikes from a US-led coalition.

Ramadi is the capital of Anbar, Iraq's largest province, and one of just a few towns and cities to have remained under government control.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/05/isil-overruns-iraqi-holdout-ramadi-150517142811552.html

DoD response is basically, "We didn't hear about that. But if it's true, don't worry, we'll get it back. :larry"


Hopefully it won't be taken back the same way Tikrit was liberated.

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« Reply #1533 on: May 19, 2015, 01:37:20 PM »
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“This is how we get our weapons,” the [ISIS] narrator said in Arabic. “The Iraqi officials beg the Americans for weapons, and then they leave them here for us.”

http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-real-problem-in-iraq

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« Reply #1534 on: May 20, 2015, 10:37:49 AM »
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Kim Jong Un Gives Field Guidance to Taedonggang Terrapin Farm

Pyongyang, May 19 (KCNA) -- Kim Jong Un, first secretary of the Workers' Party of Korea (WPK), first chairman of the DPRK National Defence Commission and supreme commander of the Korean People's Army, gave field guidance to the Taedonggang Terrapin Farm.

The Taedonggang Terrapin Farm is a big base for breeding terrapin built on the personal initiative of leader Kim Jong Il who exerted efforts to provide the people with tasty and nutritious terrapin widely known as precious tonic from olden times.

Going round various places of the farm, he learnt in detail about its production and management and pointed to the serious shortcomings manifested in its work.

"It is hard to understand that the farm visited by Kim Jong Il did not arrange even the room for the education in the revolutionary history and the employees who failed to bear deep in their minds his leadership exploits could hardly perform their role as masters in production", he noted, adding the atmosphere of the farm was completely different from those other farms he has visited.

"Everything goes well, people substantially benefit from the results of the implementation of the party policies and hurrah for the WPK and socialism are heard from the units which consider it as the main line to uphold and glorify the leadership exploits of the great leaders and the party but only sighs of defeatists come from those units which failed to do so and they may get bogged down even if all conditions are provided", he said, stressing this is the lesson one can draw from their work style.


Recalling that the party sent fries of freshwater lobsters to the farm so that it might breed them and took necessary measures for it but it failed to complete a breeding ground though two years have passed since then, he strongly criticized the shortcoming of its officials as a manifestation of incompetence, outmoded way of thinking and irresponsible work style.

Reproaching the farm for not doing even the work for updating its operation, he queried its officials if they could call its installing of just cameras monitoring the interior of the breeding ground without establishing a system for measuring the quality of water and automatically adjusting it a combined control room and modernization.

He said that all service personnel and people of the country are working hard round the clock to make good presents to the 70th founding anniversary of the WPK but he could hardly understand with what success the officials and employees of the farm would like to greet the October festival.

Noting that if officials work the way those of the farm do, it is impossible to realize the desire of Kim Jong Il and they may bring such grave consequences as impairing the prestige of the party in the end, he called for turning the farm into the one from which people substantially benefit and a model unit in the nation's cultivation which introduces advanced breeding methods and technology into its operation.


He indicated tasks and ways for drastically improving the work on the farm such as the issue of taking a proper measure for supplying electricity for safe breeding, regardless of seasons, the issues of producing hatching equipment with indigenous efforts and technology, building perfect anti-epidemic facilities and putting overall production processes on an automatic basis, the issue of locally producing food required for breeding 100 per cent and the issue of intensifying the research into putting breeding on a scientific basis.

He was accompanied by Hwang Pyong So, O Su Yong, Ri Jae Il and Jo Yong Won.

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« Reply #1535 on: May 20, 2015, 11:12:00 AM »
To go with the map Lager posted above; came across this comparison to Germany's 1918 borders and 2007 election:

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« Reply #1536 on: May 20, 2015, 11:26:27 AM »
 :whoo

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« Reply #1537 on: May 20, 2015, 11:32:13 AM »
To go with the map Lager posted above; came across this comparison to Germany's 1918 borders and 2007 election:
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http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=41489.msg2035943#msg2035943

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« Reply #1538 on: May 20, 2015, 11:36:31 AM »
Pictures > Words

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« Reply #1539 on: May 20, 2015, 11:36:46 AM »
I saw it, but I brought an infographic, you know millennials can't read text unless it's in a word cloud.

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« Reply #1540 on: May 20, 2015, 11:48:04 AM »
No one even reads tweets without pictures anymore

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« Reply #1542 on: May 20, 2015, 12:48:07 PM »
It almost makes TOO MUCH sense.

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« Reply #1543 on: May 20, 2015, 03:18:35 PM »
https://twitter.com/dineshdsouza/status/601035726130577408

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That Statue of Liberty background he has is amazing, she looks like the final boss of a Final Fantasy game disintegrating away
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« Reply #1544 on: May 22, 2015, 02:19:22 AM »
http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Iran-threatens-80000-rockets-at-Tel-Aviv-and-Haifa-over-distorted-Yaalon-comment-403750
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Iranian officials have been thrown into a fit over distorted comments attributed to Defense Minister Moshe Ya'alon that have swept across the internet and include popular anti-Israel sites.

A report by Iran's Fars news agency on Wednesday claimed that the defense minister supposedly said “We are going to hurt Lebanese civilians to include kids of the family. We went through a very long deep discussion … we did it then, we did it in [the] Gaza Strip, we are going to do it in any round of hostilities in the future,” while speaking at an unnamed "conference in Jerusalem."

The quote was most likely based on Ya'alon's comments from the May 5 Shurat Hadin conference. He was recounting targeting decisions in which he was involved when it first became apparent that Hezbollah was purposely placing weapons in civilian homes in Lebanon. He said that “If we don’t intercept the rocket-launchers in advance, civilians will be hurt, if not killed. If we hit the launchers, it will hurt or kill Lebanese civilians.” He said a “long, deep discussion” regarding the “moral and legal considerations” took place before the final decision to strike the rocket launcher.

Another quote attributed to Ya'alon, for which a basis could not be found, claimed that Israel would act "as the Americans did in 'Nagasaki and Hiroshima, causing at the end the fatalities of 200,000.'"

In response, Iranian Major General Rahim Safavi threatened Israel with violence, saying that "the people who believe in the development and protection of a Jewish nation and the US are aware of the power of Iran and Hezbollah, and they know that over 80,000 (Iranian) missiles are ready to rain down on Tel Aviv and Haifa."

"We have displayed part of our military capabilities while we have kept many of our achievements and capabilities hidden to outsiders," a comment which comes just a month after P5+1 countries agreed to a framework deal with Iran. "Our response will be crushing not just to the person who believes in the development and protection of a Jewish nation regime, but to any other aggressor who intends to take action against us."

Iran's UN envoy Gholam Ali Khoshrou also mistook the exaggerated statements for real and issued a letter to UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon. "Moshe Ya'alon's recent remarks and the person who believes in the development and protection of a Jewish nation official's implied reference to the possibility of using nuclear weapons against the Islamic Republic like what happened in Hiroshima and Nagasaki and also his threats against the Lebanese civilians, including the women and children, shows more than ever the regime's aggressive nature."
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« Reply #1545 on: May 23, 2015, 11:22:04 PM »
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/05/23/irelands-road-to-serfdom/

Summon the ghost of Friedrich Hayek to explain how matrimonial buttsex will lead us all to the glory of Marxism. :bow2

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I have met many conservatives working with or in the EU or UN who believe these international organisations that have become tools of the progressive left can be reformed, having witnessed the organised spread of Same Sex Marriage across the EU, they must now reflect upon this view.

Fearghas Obeara, a one-time policy adviser to the President of the European Parliament pointed out what defenders of traditional marriage were up against: “all the political parties, about 160 out of 166 members of parliament, all the media, all the major US multinationals, 90% of the funding was on the Yes side, it is extraordinary, and something approaching a miracle, that 40% of the voters had the courage to vote No.”

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Re: International Politics Thread - UK elections
« Reply #1546 on: May 24, 2015, 12:44:19 AM »
The COURAGE to stand up and deny people civil rights. Via SECRET ballot.

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Re: International Politics Thread - UK elections
« Reply #1547 on: May 24, 2015, 12:52:54 AM »
bubububu the corrupting influence of multinational corporate money!
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Re: International Politics Thread - UK elections
« Reply #1548 on: May 24, 2015, 01:54:30 AM »
The picture is adorable:


It's also cute how joining the EU and this is what's considered bringing "socialism" to Ireland. I think it has a more gratuitous welfare state than Sweden if you toss out all the mandatory programs everyone participates in like our Social Security which is how most of Sweden's is constructed.

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As in the United Kingdom, the very worst offenders are those who claim to be conservative or libertarian and support these measures
Does Rick Santorum know some limey potato fanatic is stealing his lines?

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Melben • 10 hours ago
"....we in the United Kingdom must now work tirelessly to ensure that the cards are not so similarly stacked for the upcoming referendum on EU Membership."

They will be stacked. The BBC will continue to take EU money and be unashamedly biased towards an IN campaign. Virtually all of Parliament will vote IN - especially the majority of Marxist SNP and most of Labour, the Greens, and the Lib Dems. A few wet Tories might rise to the occasion, but it will be 50 at most. EU money will flood the IN campaign from every angle and to many bank accounts. The media will be bought. Bloggers (Hodges et al) will be bought. Common Purpose will be handsomely rewarded for its efforts. Commenters will be paid - as the EU has already admitted it is doing - to oppose those in Disqus and other sites.

We are up against forces of evil this country has not known since WW II.
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Marine mustang • 9 hours ago
This is a powerful warning of what is coming. The warnings were sounded before WW1 and no one listened. The warnings were sounded through the 20s and 30s and no one listened. The world ignored the warnings in the aftermath of WW2 and throughout the Cold War. We watched as it happened and have seen the pictures and know the human toll. The warnings are now an annoyance to most because they refuse to believe. The collapse of free society has started and everyone thinks it won't impact their life... its happening "over there..." or to those "other people." What more freedom are you prepared to give away through ignorance and laziness? The Irish gave into the money. The US gave into the money. Will the Brits give in and lose their freedom in the name of EU collectivization, too? If we refuse to believe that there is a global effort to collectivize for the sake of the ultra-rich, does that mean we wont lose any more freedoms? Believe as you will, but prepare for the horrors that will come as a result of ignoring the warnings.
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Melben • 10 hours ago
Thoroughly excellent article. The might of satanic forces - not just Marxism.

"They must be “unreservedly committed to the person of the leader; but next to this the most important thing is that they should be completely unprincipled and literally capable of everything."

David Cameron personified.
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RealAlexTurner2020  Susan Beatrice Karimchise • 4 hours ago
It's our fault. We were silent when the homosexuals started celebrating "coming out" in the 1970s. Now it's not just them. It's their families and friends and neighbors and co-workers that we have to contend with. It keeps growing and growing.
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Thomas Schiff • 6 hours ago
So on the one hand the West is threatened by ISIS and Radical Islam whose spiritual leaders create a vision for millions of young men of fighting age from every nation to join them in building a global caliphate, earn the favor of Allah, be numbered amongst the righteous, enjoy temporal "benefits' with guarantees of even better "benefits" if it all goes wrong.

And then on the other hand we have Western Civilization setting out a vision to young men of fighting age to defend a society that denies their manhood, murders their unborn, voids their definition of marriage and family, baptizes unrepentant transvestites, denies any definition of sin before a Holy God and fails utterly to fearlessly bring the Good News of Jesus Christ to the population!

Who's going to win?
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bdog  Catbird • 7 hours ago
The road to Islam most probably
I think there's literally as many comments like this about Islam than about the Marxists who banned the Catholic Church and required everyone to get gay married.

Gotta admit the one guy got near some enlightenment even if maybe not as intended and not as organized as he suggests:
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If we refuse to believe that there is a global effort to collectivize for the sake of the ultra-rich, does that mean we wont lose any more freedoms?


Greatest comment though:
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Golfimbul77  James McClellan • 10 hours ago
The Catholic church was infiltrated years ago by Marxists with the clear intent of destroying it from within hence the kiddy fiddling and this was done by gay clergy.

Joe Molotov

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Re: International Politics Thread - UK elections
« Reply #1549 on: May 24, 2015, 02:55:15 AM »
Marxist pedophile double agents, I'm pretty sure that's how Rome fell.
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Re: International Politics Thread - UK elections
« Reply #1550 on: May 24, 2015, 03:11:31 AM »
tfw when you realize you should have got a job at the Institute for Social Research at Goethe University instead of Elders of Zion HQ. :fbm

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Re: International Politics Thread - UK elections
« Reply #1551 on: May 24, 2015, 03:14:26 AM »
tfw when you realize you should have got a job at the Institute for Social Research at Goethe University instead of Elders of Zion HQ. :fbm
U of M is Elders of Zion HQ?

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Re: International Politics Thread - UK elections
« Reply #1552 on: May 24, 2015, 03:21:38 AM »
No, HQ is in the worldwide center of Judaism--New York. :beli

A couple of protocols run respected universities though. (You think that Hebrew on Yale's seal is just academic? :hitler)

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Re: International Politics Thread - UK elections
« Reply #1553 on: May 24, 2015, 03:26:35 AM »
oh  :lol I focused more on the Institute for Social Research part: http://home.isr.umich.edu/

It's where it seems like half or more of the social science datasets come from. Including that terrible political survey everyone uses because it's the only one anyone does and thus only one anyone uses so why make a new one.

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Re: International Politics Thread - UK elections
« Reply #1554 on: May 24, 2015, 03:36:40 AM »
I should have just said Frankfurt School. :snoop

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Re: International Politics Thread - UK elections
« Reply #1555 on: May 24, 2015, 04:28:00 AM »
Repressive Tolerance is a top favorite, up there with that Moses Hess piece about the evil Jewish blood of money.

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Re: International Politics Thread - UK elections
« Reply #1557 on: May 26, 2015, 08:27:22 PM »
That was pretty bad I suppose, but even worse is that they only uploaded it in 360p.

This one is better lol at the image they use:

Re: International Politics Thread - UK elections
« Reply #1558 on: May 28, 2015, 07:27:46 AM »
Boat people from Syria and Afghanistan and British holidaymakers have clashed on Kos – as migrants have turned the Greek island, popular with cheap package deals, into a 'disgusting' hellhole.

As families – enjoying some summer sun with their kids during the half term break – relax on sun loungers on the beach, just a yards away scores of migrants have set up camp, sleeping on cardboard boxes with rubbish strewn everywhere.

Anne Servante, a nurse from Manchester, had come to Kos expecting a relaxing break with her husband Tony, a retired plumber.

Instead her summer break has turned into a nightmare as penniless migrants who are in Greece to claim asylum sit outside their restaurant and watch them eat.



'Disgusting': British holidaymakers say their summer break has turned into a nightmare as migrants who are in Greece to claim asylum have turned Kos into a refugee camp

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3099736/Holidaymakers-misery-boat-people-Syria-Afghanistan-seeking-asylum-set-migrant-camp-turn-popular-Greek-island-Kos-disgusting-hellhole.html

Re: International Politics Thread - UK elections
« Reply #1559 on: May 28, 2015, 09:03:34 AM »
Mods, can we get boat people filtered to distinguished maritime people, please? I don't think that slur represents the spirit of the Diversity Lounge.