Author Topic: Evilbore's Presidential Election Thread --Its the Final COUNTDOWN Ba da ba baaaa (Read 464183 times)

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #2220 on:** October 02, 2008, 10:51:39 PM »

Media pundits are giving Palin far too much credit.

I think it was a tie with the swing voters. Palin wasn't totally incoherent (she was a lot of times) but she seemed far too plastic. Biden was amazing but it was expected he'd hit it out of the ball park.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #2221 on:** October 02, 2008, 10:52:06 PM »

pundits are morons fuuuuuuuck them all

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #2222 on:** October 02, 2008, 10:53:15 PM »

This was enough to put an end to the 'she's a moron' talking point, now they can really act like the last 5 interviews were just a series of silly coincidences.

Hopefully independents are smart enough to realize how daft she is, because conservatives are jerking off right now.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #2223 on:** October 02, 2008, 10:53:31 PM »

Brokaw thinks that Todd was right

Fresh Prince · « **Reply #2224 on:** October 02, 2008, 10:54:57 PM »

People calling this a draw *smh*

Hitler Stole My Potato · « **Reply #2225 on:** October 02, 2008, 10:55:25 PM »

PALIN WINS - Fox News

Fresh Prince · « **Reply #2226 on:** October 02, 2008, 10:56:14 PM »

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #2227 on:** October 02, 2008, 10:57:07 PM »

People like her comments against the MSM and the useless moderator.

Fuck off America

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #2228 on:** October 02, 2008, 10:58:24 PM »

Palin's fake bolted on smile reminds me of a telemarketer. Can't believe so many Americans put "charisma" over knowledge and intelligence. SMH

Fresh Prince · « **Reply #2229 on:** October 02, 2008, 11:02:10 PM »

I've seen conservatives in fucking Australia link her 'small town charm' to that of Roosevelt, Reagen, Clinton etc except for the fact that she is dumb as a brick.

Debaser · « **Reply #2230 on:** October 02, 2008, 11:02:41 PM »

Biden did way better than I thought he would. I knew he'd destroy her but I didn't think he'd be able to do it without coming off as mean or "picking on her," but he pulled it off. He won this and everyone knows it.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #2231 on:** October 02, 2008, 11:04:43 PM »

This lady on CNN right now is distinguished mentally-challenged.

Palin did um, a lot, um, good, um, she, um, made sure, um...

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #2232 on:** October 02, 2008, 11:05:22 PM »

Far too much Palin praise. I got to study for a test. When I wake up, I better hope that tomorrow, everyone admits that Biden won it.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #2233 on:** October 02, 2008, 11:06:55 PM »

Quote from: The Experiment on October 02, 2008, 11:05:22 PM

Far too much Palin praise. I got to study for a test. When I wake up, I better hope that tomorrow, everyone admits that Biden won it.

I think most of the media realizes and is saying right now that Biden won. CNN at least is anyway.

huckleberry · « **Reply #2234 on:** October 02, 2008, 11:07:01 PM »

I bet Biden was seething inside at not being able to do a full frontal assault on her; something he does so well. He did a good job of not attacking her so much as attacking McCain.

Palin did a pretty good job in that debate...no matter what you think of her tactics. I still don't believe that it will matter in the bigger picture. The election is way too important to vote for a ticket based on who is the VP pick.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #2235 on:** October 02, 2008, 11:07:34 PM »

pundits were declaring a mccain victory over obama, too, and we all know how that turned out

this is just classic contrarianism from the msm, and the love of an underdog narrative

GilloD · « **Reply #2236 on:** October 02, 2008, 11:07:43 PM »

Jesus christ, "Rollins" went nuts with the Vote-o-Tron.

Palin did better than everyone thought, but performed about as well as a junior senator. As in the last debate, the Obama/Biden team did a much better, albeit less spectacular, job. And the buzz always goes to McCain/Palin, but the votes swing to O/B.

Hitler Stole My Potato · « **Reply #2237 on:** October 02, 2008, 11:09:07 PM »

Did I fall into some sort of worm hole? Am I in some other dimension? How in the world can their be this much positivity surrounding Palin following that performance?

Ridiculous.

tiesto · « **Reply #2238 on:** October 02, 2008, 11:09:10 PM »

As a reasonably intelligent, no-bullshit liberal from the East Coast, Palin comes across as soooo fake and condescending, I swear if I heard her say "you're darn right" once more I would have attempted to strangle myself to death with my Wiimote+Nunchuck. I really liked Biden, I thought he had a very weak start but as soon as he got into the flow of things, he was right on the money. He was to the point, and did what he was supposed to do (i.e. skip the small fry and go after McCain - linking his policies to the Bush administration).

Unfortunately, "hockey moms" and "small town America" are gonna eat Palin's shit up like it was free junk food.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #2239 on:** October 02, 2008, 11:10:33 PM »

Quote from: Hitler Stole My Potato on October 02, 2008, 11:09:07 PM

Did I fall into some sort of worm hole? Am I in some other dimension? How in the world can their be this much positivity surrounding Palin following that performance?

Ridiculous.

Because she didn't look like a complete idiot. She dodged questions like a Bush instead of like a mongoloid.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #2240 on:** October 02, 2008, 11:10:50 PM »

yeah i don't think that this will really help mccain's flagging campaign at all, which is good enough for me

i feel kinda bad for viz though because he'll still be stuck with her after this is over

Beezy · « **Reply #2241 on:** October 02, 2008, 11:12:45 PM »

Quote from: Positive Touch on October 02, 2008, 11:10:50 PM

i feel kinda bad for viz though because he'll still be stuck with her after this is over

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #2242 on:** October 02, 2008, 11:13:40 PM »

random: Wouldn't it have been more interesting to have Biden debate McCain, and Obama debate Palin?

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #2243 on:** October 02, 2008, 11:13:56 PM »

Did Palin handle the vampires well during the 30 days of night? That's important to know in a time of war!

Hitler Stole My Potato · « **Reply #2244 on:** October 02, 2008, 11:14:46 PM »

I want to see Hillary vs Sarah. Skins vs blouses.

Akala · « **Reply #2245 on:** October 02, 2008, 11:17:00 PM »

After the first five minutes we decided to take a shot ever ytime she said maverick. I don't think it's hit me really yet, but we pulled a game changer when she started saying nucular.

I kind of wish biden wouldn't have worn kid gloves for most of it. god damn she's awful.

Fresh Prince · « **Reply #2246 on:** October 02, 2008, 11:17:15 PM »

She did badly everyone knew she was coached to hell and back and she still stumbled.

Crushed · « **Reply #2247 on:** October 02, 2008, 11:26:02 PM »

someday, perhaps two years from now during the palin presidency, americans will look back and wistfully remember those days when men and women were free

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #2248 on:** October 02, 2008, 11:26:14 PM »

I thought she came off as condescending and smarmy, and she rambled a lot of non-answers. Biden clearly came off as more knowledgable. As I said earlier, the expectations were so low that this mediocre debate outing is going to be touted as northing short of a political comeback. Got to love America!

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #2249 on:** October 02, 2008, 11:27:53 PM »

Quote from: Green Man on October 02, 2008, 11:20:16 PM

Palin did better with men the women. Jesus Christ, was everyone beating off?

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Debaser · « **Reply #2250 on:** October 02, 2008, 11:35:32 PM »

Did anyone else notice Palin's total dodge of every question involving a choice?

What initiative might you have to sacrifice as a result of the economy? "None of them!"
Which would you make a priority, Iran or Pakistan? "They're both important!"
What's your real greatest weakness? "Don't have one!"

Crushed · « **Reply #2251 on:** October 02, 2008, 11:36:31 PM »

Quote from: Debaser on October 02, 2008, 11:35:32 PM

What's your real greatest weakness? "Don't have one!"

No, her Achilles Heel is that she has executive experience and is from Alaska, where they have lots of energy.

Snuflupagulus · « **Reply #2252 on:** October 02, 2008, 11:38:03 PM »

Given the laughs by the Jim Lehrer's guests when someone stated kiddingly, "Answer the question!", Palin's evasiveness is one of the emerging narratives. Fuck, these are the kind of people who attempt at all cost to intelligence come off as impartial (finding equal criticism in all gaffes no matter the magnitude) and even they couldn't deny their giggle-reflex.

Oh and,

David Brooks

Better get back to writing about bobos...

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #2253 on:** October 02, 2008, 11:48:22 PM »

Palin held her own very well. I thought she performed far better than McCain last week, in part because she actually remembered the talking points. McCain really dropped the ball with respect to Iran and the campaign suspension; tonight Palin hammered both issues effectively.

That being said, she did not do a good job making the case for change. She kept mentioning Maverick/change arguments yet everytime Biden pressed her she dodged. She refused to even talk about differences between McCain and Bush - something McCain did far better last week. That's the only area she failed at

Biden hammered home the point, almost to a point of boredom. He did his job, made the case, and won the debate. But I definitely think Palin did well

Akala · « **Reply #2254 on:** October 02, 2008, 11:52:25 PM »

Quote from: Smooth Groove on October 02, 2008, 10:58:24 PM

Palin's fake bolted on smile reminds me of a telemarketer. Can't believe so many Americans put "charisma" over knowledge and intelligence. SMH

tiesto · « **Reply #2255 on:** October 02, 2008, 11:54:40 PM »

Quote from: Father_Mike on October 02, 2008, 10:27:50 PM

ouch the small towneness hurts my ears.

As someone from a suburb of one of the world's greatest cities:

Small-town America

Nobody gives a shit about you, your 2 traffic lights, and your Wal Mart.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #2256 on:** October 03, 2008, 12:04:46 AM »

Also I agree with Kos about the emotional highpoint being Palin throwing Biden that weak softball hit on family issues that allowed him to bring up him family. When he first brought up his dead wife I was taken aback in a negative manner but as he choked up it really felt real. Palin fucked up there.

Bocsius · « **Reply #2257 on:** October 03, 2008, 12:05:48 AM »

My two cents on this is that Palin did enough to make the people already voting for the McCain/Palin ticket feel better about their choice. She didn't make any huge mistakes and she stuck to the script well. She certainly came off better here than in the interviews, although I don't think the format of the debate allowed her to be pressed hard enough, oddly enough.

However, Joe Biden very clearly won that debate. He was much more in tune with the public on issues from the economy, health care, international politics, etc. It wasn't really a fair fight, so that much at least went as expected. So while Palin comforted the base to some degree, I don't think any undecideds are going to break for McCain/Palin as a result of her better-than-expected performance. The early poll returns, at least from what CNN reported, have Joe Biden winning, as well.

Mandark · « **Reply #2258 on:** October 03, 2008, 12:11:50 AM »

Recorded the debate but haven't seen it yet.

Evilbore, I demand summaries!

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #2259 on:** October 03, 2008, 12:12:54 AM »

Quote from: Mandark on October 03, 2008, 12:11:50 AM

Recorded the debate but haven't seen it yet.

Evilbore, I demand summaries!

Telemarketing vs Oscar quality acting/crying

Guess who did what.

Bocsius · « **Reply #2260 on:** October 03, 2008, 12:13:36 AM »

Quote from: Mandark on October 03, 2008, 12:11:50 AM

Recorded the debate but haven't seen it yet.

Evilbore, I demand summaries!

Palin: "John McCain is a maverick! Alaska has a lot of oil!"

Biden: "I love John McCain.

. Vote for Obama."

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #2261 on:** October 03, 2008, 12:18:04 AM »

Quote from: Mandark on October 03, 2008, 12:11:50 AM

Recorded the debate but haven't seen it yet.

Evilbore, I demand summaries!

Biden: McCain McCain McCain
Palin: Maverick Maverick Maverick

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #2262 on:** October 03, 2008, 12:21:26 AM »

I will say, having seen this tonight, but never really following him before he joined Obama, I think pretty highly of him.

Bloodwake · « **Reply #2263 on:** October 03, 2008, 12:23:49 AM »

HAY GUYS DID YOU KNOW JOHN MCCAIN IS A MAVERICK?

THAT'S WHAT SARAH PALIN WANTS YOU TO KNOW

Jesus Christ, if it wasn't blatantly obvious that Palin isn't ready to lead an intelligent discussion much less a country then I don't know if it ever will be. And the sad thing is, people are distinguished mentally-challenged enough to eat that shit up.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #2264 on:** October 03, 2008, 12:24:35 AM »

Embassy in Jerusalem? You dumb bitch, have you been to Israel? No, you haven't. That would be one of the dumbest things you could possibly do in the region.

I've been to Israel twice, I bet I know more about the region than she does.

tiesto · « **Reply #2265 on:** October 03, 2008, 12:25:05 AM »

Quote from: MrAngryFace on October 03, 2008, 12:21:26 AM

I will say, having seen this tonight, but never really following him before he joined Obama, I think pretty highly of him.

Totally agreed with you on this.

Biden

I swear if I had a dime for every time Palin mentioned Alaska's natural resources...

duckman2000 · « **Reply #2266 on:** October 03, 2008, 12:31:28 AM »

Reform maverick USA

It's a bit comical to consider that if that particular ticket wins, American pride will be a bit of a joke all around.

Quote from: distantmantra on October 03, 2008, 12:24:35 AM

I've been to Israel twice, I bet I know more about the region than she does.

I don't think Palin knows much about anything outside of Alaska. It's pretty damned sad.

Bloodwake · « **Reply #2267 on:** October 03, 2008, 12:32:33 AM »

Quote from: distantmantra on October 03, 2008, 12:24:35 AM

Embassy in Jerusalem? You dumb bitch, have you been to Israel? No, you haven't. That would be one of the dumbest things you could possibly do in the region.

I've been to Israel twice, I bet I know more about the region than she does.

Seriously, I said to my friends whenever she said that "I wonder how long it would take for terrorists to destroy that. I'd say about five seconds."

duckman2000 · « **Reply #2268 on:** October 03, 2008, 12:34:08 AM »

At least he called her on the maverick crap though. A bit late, but I assume his outburst came from genuine frustration.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #2269 on:** October 03, 2008, 12:36:26 AM »

Seems like the snap polls and focus groups are showing people think Biden won by large margins. After the debate I couldn't honestly tell how people would react, which is the opposite of how I felt after the Obama/McCain debate.

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Look at how the bars change as Biden gets personal, and then watch how they drop right after Palin starts talking. Wow.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #2270 on:** October 03, 2008, 12:36:59 AM »

Quote from: Bocsius on October 03, 2008, 12:05:48 AM

My two cents on this is that Palin did enough to make the people already voting for the McCain/Palin ticket feel better about their choice. She didn't make any huge mistakes and she stuck to the script well. She certainly came off better here than in the interviews, although I don't think the format of the debate allowed her to be pressed hard enough, oddly enough.

Your "debates" are just incredible. Heavily moderated, everyone needs to get their turn, and let's never stretch any one issue lest we run the risk of having to exclude one of our other questions. I'm wondering how the average American would react was he or she to observe electoral campaigns in other nations. Palin would probably be flabberghasted.

And honestly, she calls herself an average middle class American?

On a separate note, did Biden choke up a bit there when talking about his family?

Bloodwake · « **Reply #2271 on:** October 03, 2008, 12:37:26 AM »

Quote from: duckman2000 on October 03, 2008, 12:34:08 AM

At least he called her on the maverick crap though. A bit late, but I assume his outburst came from genuine frustration.

I was pretty impressed with that.

I was also pretty impressed with how he almost started crying. Then I thought better of that.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #2272 on:** October 03, 2008, 12:38:00 AM »

"BIG O!! IT'S SHOWTIME!!!"

duckman2000 · « **Reply #2273 on:** October 03, 2008, 12:38:48 AM »

Quote from: Bloodwake on October 03, 2008, 12:37:26 AM

Quote from: duckman2000 on October 03, 2008, 12:34:08 AM
At least he called her on the maverick crap though. A bit late, but I assume his outburst came from genuine frustration.

I was pretty impressed with that.

I was also pretty impressed with how he almost started crying. Then I thought better of that.

Yeah, I wasn't sure how honest that was. Then again, good acting is another necessary talent.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #2274 on:** October 03, 2008, 12:39:54 AM »

Quote from: duckman2000 on October 03, 2008, 12:38:48 AM

Quote from: Bloodwake on October 03, 2008, 12:37:26 AM
Quote from: duckman2000 on October 03, 2008, 12:34:08 AM
At least he called her on the maverick crap though. A bit late, but I assume his outburst came from genuine frustration.

I was pretty impressed with that.

I was also pretty impressed with how he almost started crying. Then I thought better of that.

Yeah, I wasn't sure how honest that was. Then again, good acting is another necessary talent.

His wife and daughter were killed in a car crash. I don't think that's something I could ever get over.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #2275 on:** October 03, 2008, 12:40:50 AM »

Yeah, I believed it. I DONT HAVE A COLD EVILBORIAN HEART

duckman2000 · « **Reply #2276 on:** October 03, 2008, 12:41:50 AM »

I'm a very cynical person. For good reason, but for the record, I did buy into at the time.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #2277 on:** October 03, 2008, 12:42:45 AM »

That was definitely real. It really seemed like he was having flashbacks or something

Bloodwake · « **Reply #2278 on:** October 03, 2008, 12:42:57 AM »

Quote from: distantmantra on October 03, 2008, 12:39:54 AM

Quote from: duckman2000 on October 03, 2008, 12:38:48 AM
Quote from: Bloodwake on October 03, 2008, 12:37:26 AM
Quote from: duckman2000 on October 03, 2008, 12:34:08 AM
At least he called her on the maverick crap though. A bit late, but I assume his outburst came from genuine frustration.

I was pretty impressed with that.

I was also pretty impressed with how he almost started crying. Then I thought better of that.

Yeah, I wasn't sure how honest that was. Then again, good acting is another necessary talent.

His wife and daughter were killed in a car crash. I don't think that's something I could ever get over.

Well, I don't know how I feel. I felt as if he got too emotionally involved, but seriously, that was awesome that he responded to Palin's soccer mom bullshit with some genuine feeling.

"I'm a mom and I know how to raise kids"

"Well, my wife and daughter died in a fucking car crash and I had to raise two kids alone *tear*"

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #2279 on:** October 03, 2008, 12:43:40 AM »

MY FAMILY DIED BITCH TAKE YOUR HOCKEY MOM SCHTICK AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR PURITAN ASS

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