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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/07/cindy-mccain-obamas-waged_n_132751.html

Oh i better not watch the debate tonight, ill get so pissed listening to McCain pretend he's telling the truth about anything anymore.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/07/cindy-mccain-obamas-waged_n_132751.html

Oh i better not watch the debate tonight, ill get so pissed listening to McCain pretend he's telling the truth about anything anymore.

Now, why wasn't she covered in eggs after saying that? Americans are so inactive and bureaucratic.
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Because 50% of America is staggeringly distinguished mentally-challenged.

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I dont get how its allowed at all to run a campaign on lies. There should be some governing body that just hits them on the face and tells them they cant run anymore.
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And the other honestly thinks that things are best dealt with through petitions.

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What's tonight's debate about?
mutually assured destruction

This debate could be good or bad for anybody.

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I dont get how its allowed at all to run a campaign on lies. There should be some governing body that just hits them on the face and tells them they cant run anymore.

But then you're putting the responsibility in the hands of an entity that can certainly be bought, and which would itself be ruled by stacks of legal documents on what is what. Bureaucracy and personal inaction is the problem here. The fact that candidates can seriously make rules for debates before agreeing to partake in them highlights this issue. Media, which should be an extension of the people, shouldn't be ruled by the wishes of candidates. The real problem I guess is that this is by large an extension of the public's mindset.

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From NBC/NJ's Matthew Berger
PENSACOLA, Fla. -- Palin chastized Obama for continuing to serve on charitable boards with William Ayers after he knew of Ayers’ ties to a domestic terrorist group.

Palin continued to question Obama's claims that was unaware of Ayers’ ties to Weather Underground, and criticized him for staying involved on charitable boardds with him after finding out.

“He didn’t know that until he did know? And then he continued to be in any way associated with that person?” Palin asked rhetorically. “The story keeps changing and the claims keep getting more and more curious.”

Obama’s advisors acknowledged the Democratic presidential candidate stayed on charitable boards after he learned of Ayers' past. The campaign had said Obama was unaware of Ayers' background when he became involved in Chicago politics.

Palin’s words received a strong reaction at the Civic Center, where the continuous strobe of camera flashes were striking in the darkened auditorium. At one point, as Palin delineated Obama’s comments on Ayers, a supporter yelled “We’re not stupid!”

Palin nearly repeated verbatim her comments from an earlier fundraiser in Jacksonville, when she defended McCain’s health-care plan and repudiated suggestions that it is a tax, or that McCain would threaten Social Security.

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JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- Palin said a McCain Administration would protect Social Security and not tax health care, while suggesting Obama was trying to scare senior citizen voters in Florida.

“We will protect the entitlement programs that Americans depend on -- above all Social Security,” she said at a fundraiser at Jacksonville Municipal Stadium. “No presidential election cycle is complete, though, so keep in mind, without the Democratic candidate coming down here to Florida especially and trying to stir up fear and panic on this issue of Social Security.”

Palin accused Obama of exploiting the health care and Social Security issues to win votes among seniors in Florida. “If you expect any better from a guy who promises to get rid of old-style politics, you’re in for a good warning there,” she said. “Because Barack Obama has exploited this issue and that’s the way that he works.”

Palin’s choice of venue for this message was odd, however. Despite the Florida address, she spoke predominantly to Baby Boomers and younger voters at the fundraiser, and the promises to “make health care more accessible and more affordable” did not garner applause.

Palin said Obama’s health-care plan “puts expensive mandates on small businesses” and said that would lead to unemployment and layoffs.

“Our health-care plan will give millions of middle class Americans access to better health-care coverage without costing you a dime,” she said, saying middle class families would receive a $5,000 tax credit to buy coverage.

Palin suggested the new lines were needed because of Obama’s advertising campaign -- which argued the McCain plan would tax health-care benefits -- and because McCain’s health-care message was not getting through in the media.

“Barack Obama is calling that a tax,” she said. “Now, there’s no tax; that’s changing health care for the better. He doesn’t understand that. I don’t know how he captures it and spins it to being a tax on Americans. No, it’s a credit.”

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Palin lies

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They're broadcasting ads for Oliver Stone's W. on Fox News.   I find that to be.....awesome.
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I was told by my mother that I'm socialist because I want to vote for Obama and he will revert this country to COMMUNISM.
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Tell your mom socialism ain't so bad.  We'll finally be able use women in common like in brave new world. 

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She's right. We must continue letting the market CEOs get insanely rich by doing a shitty job at their job. It's the American way.
McCain 08!!!
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I was told by my mother that I'm socialist because I want to vote for Obama and he will revert this country to COMMUNISM.
What does she say about the financial crisis and its origins in deregulation?  Also, when was America COMMUNIST in the first place?
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The argument was actually over CEO pay.  She's for more minimum regulation, tax cuts and that CEOs should not receive absurd pay if their companies get government assistance.  But I fail to see how such a measure would prevent reckless CEOs from cashing hundreds of millions of dollars by leading their companies to financial ruin.  So they don't get a golden parachute?  Big deal, they'll just clean house with salary and bonuses from fraudulent books.

I'm in favor of not limiting excessive CEO pay, but reforming the power and responsibilities of board members so that they could determine CEO pay and bonus structures based on actual company performance.  I see entrenched boards having just as much to do with this mess than anything else, and if there's a way to make them more accountable to shareholders and government regulators - I'm all for it.

This resulted in me being called socialist over and over again, until she left in disgust.
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This resulted in me being called socialist over and over again, until she left in disgust.

She also called you a drunk under her breath.

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AND GAF ATTACKS IN 3,2,1.

I just personally feel like Barack has supporters who would follow him blindly anywhere, its a joke. Off shore drilling must begin now, I hate his argument of it will take 10-20 years, so what when were completely fucked in 10-20 years we'll just be sitting here "good thing were not reaping the rewards of drilling in our own country". My main reason for supporting McCain, nuff said.

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'nuff said indeed. 10 years of 4+ dollar gas only to depend on gas all over again later is much better than 10 years of 4+ dollar gas and breaking away from fossil fuels entirely.
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i read that, posted a three sentence response, then thought better of it.

it wouldn't change anyone's mind, so it's pointless.
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GAF is like staying behind in a hurricane and occasionally opening the door to tell the hurricane to fuck off. Hurricane doesn't care.
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i read that, posted a three sentence response, then thought better of it.

it wouldn't change anyone's mind, so it's pointless.
I bet it would have been fantastic. Don't hold back.

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We study and search for another solution for ten years that might not come around either? I suppose both sides have good points but I'm so sick doing what all these countries want us to pay for oil, I'd much rather prefer we act now rather than later, I feel like McCain has a plan for this oil crisis as soon as he gets in office, Obama might but it could take longer or never come fruition.
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GAF is like staying behind in a hurricane and occasionally opening the door to tell the hurricane to fuck off. Hurricane doesn't care.

to completely go off topic, i got the witcher "resend email confirmation" thing to work today.  so if you care about the EE stuff, try to get the website to resend your email activation link.  it may work.
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i read that, posted a three sentence response, then thought better of it.

it wouldn't change anyone's mind, so it's pointless.
I bet it would have been fantastic. Don't hold back.

not really.  it was basically

1) why not request the oil companies begin to drill in the areas they currently hold before we discuss the leasing of new land to them?

2) we have no guarantee that the oil drilled from America will go to America as it's a global economy.

3) obama has said that he may allow new drilling if it's part of a compromise.

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that wasnt my issue sadly, it had to do with the launcher not detecting cookies even tho i removed all ie security and logged into the forums. its a fairly common problem
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oh that issue!  yeah i'm using XP so i didn't run into that.

maybe piracy is your answer
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This resulted in me being called socialist over and over again, until she left in disgust.

She also called you a drunk under her breath.

actually she said "jew"

i didn't think it was appropriate, but didn't mention it at the time because he's her son, you know?
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'nuff said indeed. 10 years of 4+ dollar gas only to depend on gas all over again later is much better than 10 years of 4+ dollar gas and breaking away from fossil fuels entirely.

Gas was $3.21 today :bow

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Sweet!

Oil has dropped by over a 3rd but gas has dropped ~25%.
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Sweet!

Oil has dropped by over a 3rd but gas has dropped ~25%.

after Katrina, they realized we will pay whatever they price it at and we will put up with it.
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Gas companies know that people will put up with it so if they can arbitrage 15-20 cents a gallon, then they might as well.

Gas in my area is now $2.93/gallon
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One more debate to go, whats the next one about/like?
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Re: Evilbore's Presidential Election Thread --Its the Final COUNTDOWN Ba da ba b
« Reply #2551 on: October 07, 2008, 11:24:55 PM »
Domestic issues

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aka the economy aka Obama's power level is over 9000
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Re: Evilbore's Presidential Election Thread --Its the Final COUNTDOWN Ba da ba b
« Reply #2553 on: October 07, 2008, 11:30:58 PM »
MSNBC: 39% Obama win, 35% tie, 27% McCain win

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Obama won this one hands down. I cracked up on the foreign policy question. Obama explains he wouldn't take shit from Pakistan if they wouldn't let the US in those border mountains if they found where Bin Laden was.

McCain then responds with some silly "you'll announce bombing pakistan before you do" shit and "talk softly and carry a big stick." Then Obama laid the hammer down and said "McCain acts like he's somber and soft spoken" and McCain said "thank you" and then Obama brings up the comments about destroying North Korea and the "Bomb bomb bomb Iran" comment.  :lol

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Re: Evilbore's Presidential Election Thread --Its the Final COUNTDOWN Ba da ba b
« Reply #2555 on: October 08, 2008, 12:36:30 AM »
Yea, I really can't comprehend McCain being against killing Bin Laden.

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Imagine if Obama actually beat McCain tonight in either voter polls or pundit analysis. He would be so pissed. I'd hate to see what Schmidt would convience him to do then :/

This will be fun

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/07/cindy-mccain-obamas-waged_n_132751.html

Oh i better not watch the debate tonight, ill get so pissed listening to McCain pretend he's telling the truth about anything anymore.

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This is just another example of the simple-minded Republican "rightback at ya" tactic of taking any criticism launched at them and the next day accuse you of the exact same thing. The fact that their return criticism makes no sense doesn't matter. It's simply meant to infuriate and shift focus from their guilt back at their opponent. The try to make them waste their energy defending themselves against ridiculous charges. ." The correct response is to call them on it.

Mrs. McCain, the old schoolyard retort "I'm rubber your glue. Whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you," was lame back then when we were school children. From a grown woman, it is truly pathetic. Just shut up, snort another line of coke and melt away into your meaningless, empty money poisoned life you soulless freak.
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Kenya Detains Author Promoting Anti-Obama Book

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All Things Considered, October 7, 2008 · The American author of a controversial book about Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama was reportedly on his way out of Kenya on Tuesday night.

Jerome Corsi had planned to make public statements in Kenya that were unflattering to both Obama and Kenya's prime minister. He had scheduled a news conference Tuesday morning at a fancy Nairobi hotel for the Kenyan launch of his book, The Obama Nation: Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality. It was the same hotel where Obama held his own news conference during a triumphant visit to Kenya in 2006. Obama's father was Kenyan, and he still has relatives in the country.

A news release about Corsi's event sent out to local and international media said that the author would expose "details of deep secret ties between Obama and a section of Kenyan government leaders … and [a] subsequent plot to be executed in Kenya should … Obama win the American presidency."

A second page listing Corsi's talking points never quite explained what plot might be afoot. It did, however, frequently mention Kenyan Prime Minister Raila Odinga, who is an ethnic Luo, as was Obama's father.

Corsi had apparently planned to talk about Odinga's ties to Kenyan Muslims and his conduct during Kenya's ethnic troubles earlier this year, which left more than 1,000 Kenyans dead and hundreds of thousands displaced. The violence followed a contentious presidential election in Kenya that pitted many Luos against a number of ethnic Kikuyus.

About 15 minutes before the news conference was set to begin, Kenyan immigration authorities questioned Corsi and his U.S. media liaison, Tim Bueler. Officials said Corsi and Bueler lacked work permits and the two were escorted into a police vehicle and whisked way.

Corsi's press relations representative in Kenya says pro-Luo forces pushed Corsi out.

edit: i can see why someone on the right would like to link obama to this guy's controversies

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raila_Odinga#2007_presidential_election

Controversy

In 2007 Raila Odinga was rumoured to have signed a secret memorandum of understanding with the National Muslim Leaders Forum,[22] NAMLEF. Kenyan Muslim leaders denied that the MOU promised to introduce Sharia for Muslims if it won elections, but said its deal with the Orange Democratic Movement was to end the current discrimination against Muslims.[23] It must however be noted that Muslims in Kenya are permitted by the constitution to practice Sharia law. They have Muslim courts known as Kadhi Courts which may minister justice in cases that involve Muslims who wish to follow sharia law. They may however not pass judgment in cases of murder or give death sentences.[citation needed]

In response to Odinga's widely praised role in leading the African criticism of Robert Mugabe's brutal behavior during the presidential elections in Zimbabwe, [1], in July 2008, Mr. Charamba, the permanent secretary at Zimbabwe's information department accused Mr. Odinga of being responsible for the death of thousands of kenyans after the 2007 Kenya general election. Recalling the post-election violence in Kenya earlier this year, Mr Charamba said: "Raila Odinga's hands drip with blood, raw African blood, and that blood is not going to be cleansed by any amount of abuse of Zimbabwe." [24] Obviously, Mr. Charamba, who is the chief person responsible for defending Robert Mugabe's despotic regime in Zimbabwe, is not a trusted international source. In fact, Prime Minister Odinga called for peaceful protests to Kenya's fraudulent elections. [2][3]
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« Reply #2560 on: October 08, 2008, 09:47:13 AM »
Yea, I really can't comprehend McCain being against killing Bin Laden.

I'm guessing because it would end things there. He doesn't want to end things. He want's "More wars."
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« Reply #2563 on: October 08, 2008, 12:24:23 PM »
Palin is a good little girl and will go along with whatever McCain and his staff wants her to do.

Then once they lose, Palin will go on the circuit and talk about how her true opinions were sidelined and how she could never get the opportunity to voice her opinion.  Then, since she is good looking, the media will forget her gross incompetence, laying down the groundwork for the GOP ticket in 2012.

I would like to see the GOP fragment into two divided groups: Huckabee and the Compassionate Conservatives or the Hard Economic Right of post Reagan leftovers like Phil Gramm.  Either way, I suspect the days of Goldwater-Reagan Republicanism are on its deathbed.

McCain will die bitter and disgraced. 
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don't I wish   :'(

pretty cool story though, DON'T MESS WITH KENYA  8)
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Re: Evilbore's Presidential Election Thread --Its the Final COUNTDOWN Ba da ba b
« Reply #2566 on: October 08, 2008, 01:52:49 PM »
I just realized that when I registered to vote back in 1999, I never declared a party affiliaton. I'm technically an independent. Why aren't the poll people calling me? I'll totally skew this sucker even more towards Obama!!
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« Reply #2567 on: October 08, 2008, 02:09:41 PM »
I don't have a landline and I may have added myself to the do-not-call list at some point. So no calls here, either.

Not that it would be likely I would be called, anyway, with a sample size 1 one-thousandth of 1 percent of the US population.

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Obama's campaign should get a letter written by someone who's family/village was killed by the Contras  ::)
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Re: Evilbore's Presidential Election Thread --Its the Final COUNTDOWN Ba da ba b
« Reply #2570 on: October 08, 2008, 03:35:15 PM »
:drudge
http://thepage.time.com/mccain-release-on-ayers/

jesus fucking christ  :lol

 :wtf What year is this? Can I just say that if McCain wins with this strategy, that will be the shame of this and a good part of last century?

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« Reply #2571 on: October 08, 2008, 03:54:34 PM »
:drudge
http://thepage.time.com/mccain-release-on-ayers/

jesus fucking christ  :lol

 :wtf What year is this? Can I just say that if McCain wins with this strategy, that will be the shame of this and a good part of last century?

why didn't 8-year-old Obama stop the bombings? or at least travel back in time from 2008 to stop the bombings? looks like the Reverend Baracknaphobia bin Hussein Terrobama has some questions to answer.
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Shamelessly ripped from gaf:
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Shamelessly ripped from gaf:
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Undecided voters tend to be indifferent to politics and simply don't pay much attention to political campaigns. Because they don't pay attention and because they don't think about politics enough to pick sides, they usually describe themselves as moderates (I'm not saying this describes moderates in general). They're not moderates; they just don't care

Undecided voters tend to be less educated than decided voters, but I think this stance of indifference is learned. Our votes really don't matter; there's no reason to invest so much into these elections. The undecideds have the right idea!
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« Reply #2574 on: October 08, 2008, 05:09:23 PM »
:drudge
http://thepage.time.com/mccain-release-on-ayers/

jesus fucking christ  :lol

 :rofl :rofl

Holy shit the McCain campaign is so fucking predictable.

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« Reply #2575 on: October 08, 2008, 07:09:27 PM »
[youtube=425,350]eCeNPAaGVVY&eurl[/youtube]
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« Reply #2576 on: October 08, 2008, 07:17:21 PM »
http://alchemytoday.com/obamataxcut/

I did it for my parents and they'd save $2,626.76 in taxes
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« Reply #2577 on: October 08, 2008, 07:20:17 PM »
The undecided voter is the apathetic voter.

The truth is that most Americans don't give a fuck.  That or they hate both candidates.  However some are willing to spend a few minutes to fill out a piece of paper on the 4th of November.  Those are the undecideds.
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