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The old local drunks have voiced their opinion and it’s Drew Carey > Trump
I’m not saying there’s no way Trump wins again, but I was just at a bar in rural America where cheers went out when he got off tv and everyone could at least watch price is right
price is right without bob barker I still enjoy watching when abuela has it on tho price is right>>>>>>>>>>politic
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1174874518080434176Is this was the 70s and 80s are like? Just old men literally forgetting what they were saying sentence to sentence?
https://twitter.com/cjwerleman/status/1175121188718182400Filler come get your girl
https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1175194233034162176Keep the social fascism takes coming
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1175392716110401543This shit is gonna be like Benghazi 2.0 if Biden is nominee, isn't it? Meanwhile no one will care about Trump's ethical breaches by then
Mr. Sanders says his opponents came to their senses and joined him. But a close examination of the Vermont lawmaker’s record as mayor shows that at times he also went to them, working with Republicans, police and business on key issues facing the community—sometimes to the frustration of his liberal allies.“The city was run in the 1980s as a coalition between what you would now call the progressives and the Republicans,” said John Franco, assistant city attorney in the Sanders administration. “Bernie is a fiscal conservative. The saying in Vermont is he’s tighter than the bark on a tree.”
Louie Manno, a radio host here in the 1980s, said Mr. Sanders did a “pretty good job” as mayor because his governing was less radical than his campaigns.Mr. Manno is a supporter of President Trump, but he said he isn’t worried about a Sanders presidency upending the country: “If he became the president of the United States, we’d still be a free-market economy, we would still have an army, we’d still have a Second Amendment.”
Mr. Sanders again found himself on opposite sides of progressive activists in June 1983, when hundreds of antiwar activists protested General Electric Co. for making military weapons at a plant here. Greg Guma, a progressive journalist who was involved in the antiwar movement, remembers telling Mr. Sanders of the plans to protest.“He was very upset with us,” said Mr. Guma, who wrote a book about Mr. Sanders’s tenure as mayor. Mr. Sanders told the group to demonstrate at congressional offices instead, Mr. Guma said.
Mr. Sanders followed up with a call to tell Mr. Guma that if he protested at the plant, he would be arrested. Mr. Guma went anyway. Eighty-eight people were arrested, including Mr. Guma, who went back to the protest after getting out of jail and was arrested again. Mr. Sanders observed the arrests and didn’t intervene, Mr. Guma said.“My view was you had hundreds and hundreds of jobs that were decent-paying union jobs. You shut them down here, they’re just going to move someplace else,” Mr. Sanders told The Wall Street Journal.Some of those same protesters who stood outside the General Electric plant more than three decades ago now stand outside Mr. Sanders’s Senate office on Church Street to protest his support for basing F-35 fighter jets at the Burlington Airport. As with GE, Mr. Sanders says he supports the F-35 program because of the local jobs involved.
That's sounds....like a good mayor?
Nancy is more concrete on impeaching future presidents than Trump currentlyWtf
Quote from: Mandark on June 18, 2019, 04:55:37 PMQuote from: agrajag on June 18, 2019, 04:06:39 PMHe voted for Biden's Crime Bill? What else?Sponsored a bill to have nuclear waste from Vermont shipped to a poor latino community in Texas. Fairly long history of being a "left" immigration hawk (ie "open borders" is a Koch brothers plan). When protesters picketed a GE plant making Gatling guns for the US and its rightwing allies in Central America, sided with GE and had them arrested. Supported Bill Clinton's 1993 austerity budget as well as incrementalist neoliberal policies like private insurance portability. As mayor of Burlington, an aide said they "out-Republicaned the Republicans." Voted to make it harder for felons to sue prisons. Voted for god knows how many bloated military budgets, as well as the AUMF. Said Andrew Gillum and Stacey Abrams lost because white people don't want to vote for a black candidate but that's not racism.You can make most of those sound better by providing context and he's still on the left edge of elected US senators and credible presidential candidates (I'm the pragmatist squish of the board so of course I feel that way). But might still be worth examining why you're not aware of these things.QuoteEven if they were frequently stymied, Sanders and his few official and unofficial aides were able to take administrative actions to make city government more efficient and fair. Unlike Paquette, the new city administration insisted on competitive bidding on city contracts and tried to combine city departmental purchases. A new health insurance plan saved as much as $35,000 a year. On other insurance, as much as $200,000 a year or 40 percent was saved by opening up bids. Gasoline costs were cut 5 to 10 percent. Instead of leaving the city’s money in low-or zero-interest accounts, a new cash management system was instituted and management of pension funds reviewed, with an estimated gain of $70,000 a year. A new centralized telephone system should save $100,000 a year. Higher fees for building permits and private police and fire alarms will bring in $150,000 a year. Higher interest rates for mortgages from the cemetery fund yield another $15,000 in the first year. And the new city treasurer discovered a previously unidentified surplus of $1.9 million.“People had expectations that if you’re a radical, you won’t last because you can’t run the city,” says City Constable David Clavelle, a former aide to Democratic Senator Patrick Leahy and one of Sanders’ first appointments. “We concentrated on nuts and bolts. We had to prove to people that people of our persuasion could run the city government and run it better. As one local politician said, we out-Republicaned the Republicans.”“But we didn’t want to sound like Republicans, and just to be sound fiscal administrators,” Leopold continues. “We wanted to show to what extent government can be exciting and important to people’s lives. That’s why we moved to youth, arts, programs for the elderly and neighborhood planning assemblies. You can do little things to make life more interesting.” Operation Snow Shovel was a volunteer effort to help dig out the elderly and Battery Park was transformed form a troubled teen hangout to a popular cultural scene. http://inthesetimes.com/article/18806/this-1983-profile-of-bernie-sanders-shows-how-his-success-in-burlington-mirShould I asked why you included that quote? And what's with the dodge about looking for context?
Quote from: agrajag on June 18, 2019, 04:06:39 PMHe voted for Biden's Crime Bill? What else?Sponsored a bill to have nuclear waste from Vermont shipped to a poor latino community in Texas. Fairly long history of being a "left" immigration hawk (ie "open borders" is a Koch brothers plan). When protesters picketed a GE plant making Gatling guns for the US and its rightwing allies in Central America, sided with GE and had them arrested. Supported Bill Clinton's 1993 austerity budget as well as incrementalist neoliberal policies like private insurance portability. As mayor of Burlington, an aide said they "out-Republicaned the Republicans." Voted to make it harder for felons to sue prisons. Voted for god knows how many bloated military budgets, as well as the AUMF. Said Andrew Gillum and Stacey Abrams lost because white people don't want to vote for a black candidate but that's not racism.You can make most of those sound better by providing context and he's still on the left edge of elected US senators and credible presidential candidates (I'm the pragmatist squish of the board so of course I feel that way). But might still be worth examining why you're not aware of these things.
He voted for Biden's Crime Bill? What else?
Even if they were frequently stymied, Sanders and his few official and unofficial aides were able to take administrative actions to make city government more efficient and fair. Unlike Paquette, the new city administration insisted on competitive bidding on city contracts and tried to combine city departmental purchases. A new health insurance plan saved as much as $35,000 a year. On other insurance, as much as $200,000 a year or 40 percent was saved by opening up bids. Gasoline costs were cut 5 to 10 percent. Instead of leaving the city’s money in low-or zero-interest accounts, a new cash management system was instituted and management of pension funds reviewed, with an estimated gain of $70,000 a year. A new centralized telephone system should save $100,000 a year. Higher fees for building permits and private police and fire alarms will bring in $150,000 a year. Higher interest rates for mortgages from the cemetery fund yield another $15,000 in the first year. And the new city treasurer discovered a previously unidentified surplus of $1.9 million.“People had expectations that if you’re a radical, you won’t last because you can’t run the city,” says City Constable David Clavelle, a former aide to Democratic Senator Patrick Leahy and one of Sanders’ first appointments. “We concentrated on nuts and bolts. We had to prove to people that people of our persuasion could run the city government and run it better. As one local politician said, we out-Republicaned the Republicans.”“But we didn’t want to sound like Republicans, and just to be sound fiscal administrators,” Leopold continues. “We wanted to show to what extent government can be exciting and important to people’s lives. That’s why we moved to youth, arts, programs for the elderly and neighborhood planning assemblies. You can do little things to make life more interesting.” Operation Snow Shovel was a volunteer effort to help dig out the elderly and Battery Park was transformed form a troubled teen hangout to a popular cultural scene.
Tri, may I suggest that you... google Murray Bookchin.