Author Topic: PS VITA thread(embargo over,previews overload) (Read 71984 times)

Raban · « **Reply #180 on:** January 22, 2011, 03:56:19 PM »

Yeah, miming it out on my PSP-1000 and it feels fine. I don't think you know what the hell you're talking about. Maybe you have frail little babby hands, but my hands experience no strain when I move my thumb from underneath the d-pad to over it, regardless of L-target. I use sticks with the inside-knuckle of my thumbs as well, and tbh it feels more natural to have my thumb above the d-pad rather than under it.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #181 on:** January 22, 2011, 05:34:57 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on January 22, 2011, 03:47:33 PM

Personally, I play a lot of games with the thick part of my thumb on the right stick as I control the camera, and use the tip of my thumb on the buttons.

Dude, that's really fucking weird. You are an outlier in this argument.

Himu · « **Reply #182 on:** January 22, 2011, 05:40:05 PM »

It's not that weird. You just play Nintendo games, so of course it's foreign to you.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #183 on:** January 22, 2011, 05:43:16 PM »

No, people who don't play their games like a clutz aren't using the meaty part of the thumb to jostle the stick while using their fingertips to do actions. Its uncomfortable and unweildy and making your ergonomics argument look daffy.

Himu · « **Reply #184 on:** January 22, 2011, 06:00:30 PM »

It's a rare thing. I mostly use my finger tip. But in an action packed game where you have to move the camera and fight at the same time, it's a useful trick.

Either way, Raban is batshit insane and probably has girl hands.

Raban · « **Reply #185 on:** January 22, 2011, 06:02:27 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on January 22, 2011, 06:00:30 PM

It's a rare thing. I mostly use my finger tip. But in an action packed game where you have to move the camera and fight at the same time, it's a useful trick.

Either way, Raban is batshit insane and probably has girl hands.

I could probably crush your dick with my hands.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #186 on:** January 22, 2011, 06:04:42 PM »

Raban is a self confessed fatty and probably has sausage fingers. I still agree with him that the analogs are in a better place now. I was a short lived owner of a psp and found the nub very uncomfortable to use. The way it has been addressed should be far better assuming they don't make you use the l button in conjunction with it too often.

Himu · « **Reply #187 on:** January 22, 2011, 06:05:46 PM »

Putting analog sticks above the d-pad and above the face buttons is fucking distinguished mentally-challenged. Why hasn't anyone done that before with a controller?

Because it's fucking distinguished mentally-challenged.

Raban · « **Reply #188 on:** January 22, 2011, 06:07:47 PM »

Goddamn, son. I give up. You're in full-on troll mode now.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #189 on:** January 22, 2011, 06:09:55 PM »

Or the game industry is seriously afraid to even attempt minor changes like that lest the manbabies throw a hissyfit. The old way they did it on psp wasn't working for people who valued their thumbs, they've changed it unorthodoxically BECAUSE THIS IS THE BEST SOLUTION for a portable gaming device that doesn't have the benefit of handle contours and whatnot that console controllers enjoy.

Himu · « **Reply #190 on:** January 22, 2011, 06:13:37 PM »

Let's also consider that this is a portable. Having the sticks in that position WOULD OBSCURE THE SCREEN.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #191 on:** January 22, 2011, 06:26:19 PM »

Maybe sony should have had two screens then. What a radical idea.

magus · « **Reply #192 on:** January 22, 2011, 06:27:28 PM »

you guys should do like me and bitch about a portable that actualy exist like the 3DS

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #193 on:** January 22, 2011, 06:30:26 PM »

Yeah but you're gonna buy it anyway and moan about it until you buy a wii 2.

magus · « **Reply #194 on:** January 22, 2011, 06:34:29 PM »

yes but not before the thing is half the price,has a nice stable of JRPG and a nice custom firmware

naff · « **Reply #195 on:** January 22, 2011, 06:37:17 PM »

I agree with himu, analog placement like PS controller is best and having analogs too near the top will make it awkward and completely out of line with their other products

WTF

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #196 on:** January 22, 2011, 06:38:01 PM »

Quote from: magus on January 22, 2011, 06:34:29 PM

yes but not before the thing is half the price,has a nice stable of JRPG and a nice custom firmware

Piracy is so cool. You're so cool. I bet you get all the ragazzas.

magus · « **Reply #197 on:** January 22, 2011, 06:40:05 PM »

nah here where i live,everybody pirates so you don't get any girl doing so :'(

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #198 on:** January 22, 2011, 07:42:20 PM »

himunnihilated

cool breeze · « **Reply #199 on:** January 22, 2011, 07:44:22 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 22, 2011, 07:39:41 PM

Pretty much the only company that has put the d-pad above the analog stick in the last ten years is Sony.

granted, it is a move accessory, but even sony can learn.

and just about analog comfort, I think the big problem with the dual shock is the short stub handles. Make them longer and I'd be better.

For the PSP 1000-3000, problem was that it was directly under the d-pad; I understand that things under the case prevent it from having a better design, but if the nub was slightly more offset to the right it would have been a lot more comfortable.

For the PSP go, just move the analog nub higher up. Other things to be done, like not having it be a rough dotted convex piece of hard plastic with a very small range of movement, but positionally it would be fine. The old leaked pictured seemed to have the right idea.

Himu · « **Reply #200 on:** January 22, 2011, 08:31:42 PM »

Notice how those sticks on those controllers are on the left side of the controller? And not towards the center?

I think it'd be fine if it were a normal controller but on a portable, where my hands tend to cramp up anyways? Blarg.

Also, none of those controllers have the stick THAT close to the top of the controller. They have lots of room between the stick and the bumper/trigger for ample comfort.

Anyone with a psp knows the bumper is right at the top. There's no gap. So the stick would be 2 inches away from the bumper. Either way, it doesn't sound ideal for a portable and this is without mentioning that NONE of those controllers have the second stick ABOVE the face buttons -- which is the biggest wtf.

All of those controllers are pretty comfortable.

Compare those to this:

cool breeze · « **Reply #201 on:** January 22, 2011, 08:42:51 PM »

I don't want to sound rude, but yet again, that picture is a mock up. It is literally a PSP Go that's been jiggered around with in photoshop based on information they have heard. It's like whisper down the lane mixed with pictionary.

Himu · « **Reply #202 on:** January 22, 2011, 08:43:49 PM »

Whoever came up with that mock up should be fired

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #203 on:** January 22, 2011, 08:54:17 PM »

Oooor himuro should know better than to jump to blind conclusions by now.

Himu · « **Reply #204 on:** January 22, 2011, 08:57:10 PM »

It's not a blind conclusion. It is a legitimately awful design. Kinda like those cartoons where they draw a game system and the face buttons are on the left part of the system.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #205 on:** January 22, 2011, 09:26:45 PM »

The original psp mockup had buttons that were flush with with system including the dpad. No one sane complained about that because it was understood to be a mockup and not a final design.

Himu · « **Reply #206 on:** January 22, 2011, 09:44:16 PM »

What does that even mean? Flush with the system including the d-pad?

Who cares if it's a mock up? It's still awful.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #207 on:** January 23, 2011, 02:04:06 PM »

OLED touchscreen + 3G

http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/01/24/psp2_details/

God I love sony. They don't give a fuck! Bam, $500 handheld, get a second or third job motherfucker!

cool breeze · « **Reply #208 on:** January 23, 2011, 02:08:55 PM »

Give me an address, Sony. My dick is hard.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #209 on:** January 23, 2011, 02:10:58 PM »

OK that's awesome. OLED is fucking hot. And persistent 3G is where portable gaming needs to go. Make some weird shit Sony, I have no need for a Super PSP 1!

maxy · « **Reply #210 on:** January 23, 2011, 02:11:48 PM »

Quote

Regarding the system's internals, the paper reports that Sony has developed a new processor for handling high resolution visuals.

Guess the name

Himu · « **Reply #211 on:** January 23, 2011, 02:13:27 PM »

SONY

Bebpo · « **Reply #212 on:** January 23, 2011, 02:15:52 PM »

OLED?!?!

HOLY SHIT MEGATON

this will be the handheld to end all handhelds. All bets are off for price now.

maxy · « **Reply #213 on:** January 23, 2011, 02:18:08 PM »

3G thing is much bigger,who gives a shit how some pixels look,especially on some small screen

3G...that is the real deal

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #214 on:** January 23, 2011, 02:23:10 PM »

Quote from: Don Flamenco on January 23, 2011, 02:04:06 PM

OLED touchscreen + 3G

http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/01/24/psp2_details/

God I love sony. They don't give a fuck! Bam, $500 handheld, get a second or third job motherfucker!

OLED shouldn't add that much to the price. The 16gb Zune HD has been selling for under $200 for quite awhile despite having a touchscreen OLED.

maxy · « **Reply #215 on:** January 23, 2011, 02:36:19 PM »

This could actually mean that battery life is good,they can't expect that people will walk around and use 3G if battery life is shit

right?

Himu · « **Reply #216 on:** January 23, 2011, 02:37:56 PM »

say that to idevices

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #217 on:** January 23, 2011, 02:38:10 PM »

sony let me show u my Oled face

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #218 on:** January 23, 2011, 02:50:48 PM »

sony

Purple Filth · « **Reply #219 on:** January 23, 2011, 03:18:36 PM »

The price should be glorious

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #220 on:** January 23, 2011, 03:21:25 PM »

PRICE MATCH THE 3DS SONY
DO IT
DO IT

Purple Filth · « **Reply #221 on:** January 23, 2011, 03:30:25 PM »

Quote from: Sho Nuff on January 23, 2011, 03:21:25 PM

PRICE MATCH THE 3DS SONY
DO IT
DO IT

Bebpo · « **Reply #222 on:** January 23, 2011, 03:32:00 PM »

Is there really a point?

Even if PSP2 is 10x better hardware at the same price as 3DS. Even if they had it launch on the same day as 3DS.

...3DS would outsell it by a wide margin and Sony would just take a huge loss.

You can't beat Nintendo at the handheld game. Too much brand recognition and Nintendo has all those nostalgic Nintendo franchises. Sony just needs to create its own pocket and the trick is to price it so the pocket is big enough to support the system in the first few years until they can bring the price down and expand their market share. Some version at $299 would be their best price point imo. Although the real version will be $399.

maxy · « **Reply #223 on:** January 23, 2011, 03:38:45 PM »

People were saying the same thing about PS3

Things change,never say never

Himu · « **Reply #224 on:** January 23, 2011, 03:53:36 PM »

THE SEQUEL TO THE BEST HANDHELD EVER

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #225 on:** January 23, 2011, 03:54:01 PM »

Quote from: maxy on January 23, 2011, 03:38:45 PM

People were saying the same thing about PS3

Things change,never say never

The difference is that the PS3 wasn't limited by a puny battery. I still think that the power gap and thus price difference will be much smaller between the PSP2 and 3DS than what you guys expect.

maxy · « **Reply #226 on:** January 23, 2011, 04:17:55 PM »

Quote from: Smooth Groove on January 23, 2011, 03:54:01 PM

Quote from: maxy on January 23, 2011, 03:38:45 PM
People were saying the same thing about PS3

Things change,never say never

The difference is that the PS3 wasn't limited by a puny battery. I still think that the power gap and thus price difference will be much smaller between the PSP2 and 3DS than what you guys expect.

Of course,who would believe Sony hype?

This handheld gen will be interesting...lots of competition
Sometimes even one game is enough to turn some thing from "meh" to hot item,like PSP in Japan

It will be interesting to see how PSP2 will relate to PS2...

PSP-plays PS1 games

PSP2-plays PS2 games?

Diunx · « **Reply #227 on:** January 23, 2011, 04:37:04 PM »

This is gonna be so hot

cool breeze · « **Reply #228 on:** January 23, 2011, 04:42:35 PM »

one thing the psp2 should have out of the box is the ability to plug in a mini-hdmi cable and output the video

it should be like that motorola phone at ces. you plug it into the dock and it becomes a PS2.5. There might be some complications with the back and front touch screens, but whatever, make a special wireless controller that has a rear touch pad and sell it for $50 or however much controllers go for.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #229 on:** January 23, 2011, 05:42:11 PM »

does it have a second analog? I haven't kept up with the leaks.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #230 on:** January 23, 2011, 05:44:43 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on January 23, 2011, 03:32:00 PM

Is there really a point?

Even if PSP2 is 10x better hardware at the same price as 3DS. Even if they had it launch on the same day as 3DS.

...3DS would outsell it by a wide margin and Sony would just take a huge loss.

I don't care, I want the Sony that gives me cutting edge technology for a mass market price.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #231 on:** January 23, 2011, 05:53:34 PM »

Wat is OLED?

Bebpo · « **Reply #232 on:** January 23, 2011, 06:07:02 PM »

Quote from: Don Flamenco on January 23, 2011, 05:42:11 PM

does it have a second analog? I haven't kept up with the leaks.

It's supposed to, yeah.

Biggest selling point for me considering the "everything is good except the controls" aspect of portable gaming we've had to live with for the last 6 years of handhelds.

maxy · « **Reply #233 on:** January 23, 2011, 06:18:52 PM »

what about Square Enix?

they could have tons of stuff for PSP2 launch

Purple Filth · « **Reply #234 on:** January 23, 2011, 06:34:11 PM »

Quote from: Kosma on January 23, 2011, 06:16:31 PM

Monster Hunter + 3G = marriage from heaven

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Yes I know Japanese get together to play handheld games irl
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MCD · « **Reply #235 on:** January 23, 2011, 06:36:26 PM »

3G + Monster Hunter would be indeed overkill for Japan but for someone who usually play at home (single player games too) it is no big deal.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #236 on:** January 23, 2011, 06:37:40 PM »

OLED is organic leds

They are cut from fetus stem cells to create the most beautiful vibrant pixels ever

OLED

Shitty 800x240 WQVGA displays stuck in 1999 Japanese cell phones

Bebpo · « **Reply #237 on:** January 23, 2011, 06:40:45 PM »

Quote from: dcharlie on January 23, 2011, 06:12:32 PM

Nintendo can be beaten if Sony reveal with Monster Hunter exclusivity. Though the N would STILL win as they have a captive audience - but Sony could really do some damage with Monster Hunter.

If they have PS2 B/C in there they might even do some damage to the 3D enabled PS2 ports on 3DS

Where would you put the dvd?

cool breeze · « **Reply #238 on:** January 23, 2011, 06:43:41 PM »

Quote from: maxy on January 23, 2011, 06:18:52 PM

what about Square Enix?

they could have tons of stuff for PSP2 launch

SE and Capcom should just release their upcoming games (Agito, MH3P) with PSP2 features, like the ability to use the right stick for camera control or something. Resistance Retribution showed that it could be possible with PSP games with different hardware.

Quote from: Bebpo on January 23, 2011, 06:40:45 PM

Where would you put the dvd?

like PS1 on PSP, you'd need to rebuy the games on PSN.

I wonder if they ever put PS2 games on PSN how much they'd charge. PS1 games are $6 with a few $10 exceptions like square and capcom games.

Bebpo · « **Reply #239 on:** January 23, 2011, 06:51:30 PM »

I'm kind of afraid that if they ever put PS2 games on digital download it'll be $20 a game. ^^;

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Author Topic: PS VITA thread(embargo over,previews overload) (Read 71984 times)