USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town

[benjipwns]

Two watermarks.

[benjipwns]

Less than 24 hours before we look back and say "if only the government had protected us by eliminating Republican lies by any means necessary we'd still have a democracy."

[james]

Less than 24 hours before we look back and say "if only the government had protected us by eliminating Republican lies by any means necessary we'd still have a democracy."

By my calculations, just 4 strategically placed FEMA death camps could have saved Democracy

[benjipwns]

Honestly, I'm starting to wonder if we should even have an election during a period of democratic uncertainty. Do enough voters know our democracy is at threat? What if they vote like it isn't? What about voters who know our democracy is at stake but due to the disinformation are believing in Republican lies like so-called "inflation"? I'd feel a lot safer about our democracy if Joe just cancelled the elections tomorrow until our democracy was secure. We have to stop this Second Civil War before it happens and the only way to do that is stop every threat to democracy and the midterm elections right now look like a major threat to democracy.

[Potato]

The problem with democracy is that if the other guys get more votes than your team, they win...

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...and we know that means the end of democracy. EVERY. TIME.

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[benjipwns]

In the wake of the attack on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s husband, Democratic politicians across the country have spoken out about the increased threats of violence they’ve faced in the lead-up to the midterm elections.

But according to Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel, death threats and intimidation aren’t new to this election cycle—they’ve been a constant throughout her three-year stint as the top law enforcement figure in the state.

“In the last 24 hours, I had somebody come by my house, then get out of their car, went on the lawn and started taking pictures of my house,” she said to VICE News in an interview earlier this year while she was on the campaign trail. “It’s a scary time, there’s no question about that.”

Michigan is no stranger to extremism: Not only was the far-right Michigan militia active in the 90s—which once counted Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh among its members—but Nessel’s office recently prosecuted and convicted members of the Wolverine Watchmen militia for plotting to kidnap and kill Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer in 2020.

...

The adoption of violent and aggressive rhetoric within the GOP during this midterm election cycle, and post-Jan 6. writ large, has already given rise to threats and intimidation against mostly Democrat members of Congress, seemingly culminating in the attack on Paul Pelosi, 82, in San Francisco late last month. The alleged perpetrator yelled “Where’s Nancy?” and later, under interrogation, told police he planned to tie her up and torture her by breaking her kneecaps.

Additionally, a Pennsylvania Democrat running for a state House seat there claimed he was attacked earlier this week and suspected it was election-related.

Many Democrat lawmakers, like Nessel, fear this is just the beginning of what could turn into a broader trend, especially as she sees Republican candidates who fail “to condemn” far-right extremist groups that commit violence because “certain individuals that are running right now that I think align themselves with some of these organizations.”

And Democrats have real reasons to fear given some of the content increasingly being shared by the far-right on encrypted apps like Telegram, including neo-Nazi terrorist groups and their supporters who have called for the killing of politicians. For example, an international terrorist group under an FBI probe said on its Telegram account that politicians, including Republicans, should be bona fide targets for murder.

“Our enemies have names, addresses, and loved ones too,” it said in a message seen hundreds of times.

...

Late last week a particularly violent Telegram channel used by neo-Nazis demanded that would-be assassins of politicians need to “get the job done and get it done right or quit LARPing,” referring to the Pelosi attack.

The account, which is yet more evidence of a growing bloodlust on the far-right for political blood to be spilled, pointed out that three political figures have already been attacked this election season and zero have been killed, allowing politicians to beef up security in the meantime.

Beyond the underground doldrums of Nazi chatrooms, mainstream Republicans have done very little to quell talk of political violence, before and after January 6. Former President Donald Trump, who often still openly references the QAnon conspiracy theory, famously failed to denounce the Proud Boys, a designated terrorist group in several countries, during a debate with current President Joe Biden in 2020. (Trump would later condemn the Proud Boys, while claiming he knew little about them.) Meanwhile, other Republican congressmen continue to describe the Jan. 6 attackers as “peaceful protesters.”

Look at this absurd fear porn almost none of which is about the purported topic of the article and uncritically platforms Democratic conspiracy theories.

[Occam]

The problem with democracy is that if the other guys get more votes than your team, they win...

That's not a problem. This is:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering_in_the_United_States

For instance: "Republicans in North Carolina acquired 50% of the vote, which subsequently garnered them about 77% of the available seats in congress." And then you install corrupt judges who back this and you are set.

Very democracy!

[benjipwns]

That's not a problem. This is:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering_in_the_United_States

For instance: "Republicans in North Carolina acquired 50% of the vote, which subsequently garnered them about 77% of the available seats in congress." And then you install corrupt judges who back this and you are set.

Very democracy!

That's not because of gerrymandering, that's because of geographical districts.

Explain how gerrymandering is getting Republicans to win the Presidency, Senate and Governorships too. Not to mention legislatures in states with non-partisan commissions drawing the lines.

Like, seriously, is this refusal to learn anything about American politics just to spite me personally or something? I really can't figure out what other explanation there's supposed to be at this point.

[Occam]

For instance: "Republicans in North Carolina acquired 50% of the vote, which subsequently garnered them about 77% of the available seats in congress."

That's not because of gerrymandering, that's because of geographical districts.

Right. Geographical districts that look like salamanders?

Explain how gerrymandering is getting Republicans to win the Presidency, Senate and Governorships too. Not to mention legislatures in states with non-partisan commissions drawing the lines.

That's another problem: Apparently land votes in the US. Which is why some votes are worth more than others.

Equal representation is totally overrated. Very democracy!

[benjipwns]

Right. Geographical districts that look like salamanders?

Explain how gerrymandering is getting Republicans to win the Presidency, Senate and Governorships too. Not to mention legislatures in states with non-partisan commissions drawing the lines.

That's another problem: Apparently land votes in the US. Which is why some votes are worth more than others.

Let me refer you back to my previous statements about your need to learn about American politics if you want to comment on them. You can do that and improve yourself or you can make a fool of yourself by trying to explain how land "votes" for any of the positions I mentioned when every single one is elected first-past-the-post like in nearly every country that's spun out of the UK.

[Potato]

Does the US have an independent electoral commission?

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1589818145945972736



https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1589806553799872513

[Himu]

Honestly, I'm starting to wonder if we should even have an election during a period of democratic uncertainty. Do enough voters know our democracy is at threat? What if they vote like it isn't? What about voters who know our democracy is at stake but due to the disinformation are believing in Republican lies like so-called "inflation"? I'd feel a lot safer about our democracy if Joe just cancelled the elections tomorrow until our democracy was secure. We have to stop this Second Civil War before it happens and the only way to do that is stop every threat to democracy and the midterm elections right now look like a major threat to democracy.

It costs 6 dollars to buy a dozen eggs but I make 200k so I don't notice! 

[Himu]

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1589818145945972736



https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1589806553799872513

Not my first choice but at least he's not a Democrat!

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Announcing an announcement lmfao fucking clown

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[Occam]

Right. Geographical districts that look like salamanders?

Explain how gerrymandering is getting Republicans to win the Presidency, Senate and Governorships too. Not to mention legislatures in states with non-partisan commissions drawing the lines.

That's another problem: Apparently land votes in the US. Which is why some votes are worth more than others.

Let me refer you back to my previous statements about your need to learn about American politics if you want to comment on them. You can do that and improve yourself or you can make a fool of yourself by trying to explain how land "votes" for any of the positions I mentioned when every single one is elected first-past-the-post like in nearly every country that's spun out of the UK.

Wait, so the number of senators US states have is based on the size of their respective populations after all? And there is no electoral college? Wikipedia, how you have misled me. Really, you should apply your profound knowledge to help improve those incredibly wrong articles on Wikipedia like the one about US gerrymandering which I looked up in a futile attempt to better myself.

[Himu]

The problem with democracy is that if the other guys get more votes than your team, they win...

That's not a problem. This is:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering_in_the_United_States

For instance: "Republicans in North Carolina acquired 50% of the vote, which subsequently garnered them about 77% of the available seats in congress." And then you install corrupt judges who back this and you are set.

Very democracy!

In my county I can vote at any poll in my county. My district is a red district (oh no!!!!). I voted early. There was a short line that lasted two minutes, then I showed my ID, got my vote ticket, and voted. Got in an out in like 10 minutes.

Still people complain.



Lowered expectations breeds laziness. This reject can't even find another polling location. Nope, he creates lies (wasn't even 95 degrees that day, hasn't been 90+ degrees in weeks if not months. The month of October had a high of 86 degrees) to spread his sorry ass narrative. No one is stopping you from voting. You can't do shit in the south without a car. Everyone here has a damn ID. Shit costs 30 damn bucks. F out here.

[benjipwns]

Wait, so the number of senators US states have is based on the size of their respective populations after all? And there is no electoral college? Wikipedia, how you have misled me. Really, you should apply your profound knowledge to help improve those incredibly wrong articles on Wikipedia like the one about US gerrymandering which I looked up in a futile attempt to better myself.

My man, if you want to come out against the very concepts of state sovereignty and federalism themselves just do that. You don't have to make yourself look stupid.

As for the Electoral College specifically, do you consider 82% to be closer to 100% or 0%?

[Himu]

lol pathetic Democratic Party lies.

Come to the "dark side", Occam. It tastes sweeter.

[Nintex]

Thank you for supporting Democracy and Freedom Himu. It only works if people vote.

[Himu]

Thank you for supporting Democracy and Freedom Himu. It only works if people vote.

Thank you! I'm very happy to support Democracy by choosing to not vote Blue!



Democracy is working!

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1589810946020585473

Blue wave ended by Pope Gregory XIII

[Occam]

Benji, you say gerrymandering doesn't affect the midterms. But of course it does. You gerrymander, you disenfranchise groups of voters who would vote against you and install judges who rubber stamp it all.
And then you get to this point:

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/republicans-rig-elections-never-lose/

[benjipwns]

Benji, you say gerrymandering doesn't affect the midterms. But of course it does. You gerrymander, you disenfranchise groups of voters who would vote against you and install judges who rubber stamp it all.
And then you get to this point:

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/republicans-rig-elections-never-lose/

How do they "gerrymander" the gubernatorial races?

[Occam]

Not the gubernatorial election, but you can take away a governor's power by using gerrymandering to achieve a veto proof majority.

[benjipwns]

Not the gubernatorial election, but you can take away a governor's power by using gerrymandering to achieve a veto proof majority.

I take this as a concession that your original claim was completely false.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/IAPolls2022/status/1589859358372155392

[Occam]

Not the gubernatorial election, but you can take away a governor's power by using gerrymandering to achieve a veto proof majority.

I take this as a concession that your original claim was completely false.

What was completely false? That gerrymandering undermines democracy because the group doing it gains more power than it should have based on the percentage of votes it actually received? Which it then abuses to further cement its position of undeserved power, disenfranchising part of the electorate?
American democracy isn't flawed because of just one issue, there are several interconnected problems. Nothing is monocausal.

[BisMarckie]

Imagine giving a shit about some midterm elections in a country thousands of miles away

[Occam]

Their outcome will have an effect on the rest of the world. E.g. Ukraine, climate change.

[benjipwns]

What was completely false?

When you claimed that Republicans don't win elections, somehow take office anyway due to "gerrymandering" even in offices that aren't allocated by internal districts and then these non-district allocated offices appoint corrupt judges to lock in their not winning of elections.

You've since gish-galloped all over the place (to the most recent absurd point of veto-proof majorities as if this incredibly rare occurrence was somehow what you meant the entire time) rather than simply back down from talking about a subject you don't know anything about and here you're continuing to do it by attempting to reframe what you said originally as just some preference for proportional representation even though you show no concern for other countries that use FPTP, continue to ignore that Governors, Senators and Presidents aren't part of what you claim to be criticizing at all and in prior posts dropped this point completely when it wasn't relevant to how you were trying to reframe your claims.

That gerrymandering undermines democracy because the group doing it gains more power than it should have based on the percentage of votes it actually received? Which it then abuses to further cement its position of undeserved power, disenfranchising part of the electorate?

You never raised either of these before, but yes, these too are also false. The system does not allocate to any party a share of seats based on the percentage of the vote, the winner and only the winner receives the seats, so there is no "should have" they are being denied. You are faulting a system for not operating as a different system does then claiming the mere difference between the systems renders the one (and only that) system illegitimate. Then there is no "abuse to further cement its position" through "corrupt judges" as you alleged because those judges are not being appointed by the people being elected in any legislative districts gerrymandered or not.

This is why I ask you to learn about American politics. You clearly want to talk about it but you also clearly are not interested about actually learning about them. Just look at the sheer amount of errors I needed to address to even begin to talk about just a few of your incorrect premises to get you to the point of understanding why what you said was completely false just as with our earlier discussion on free speech and the First Amendment. And you're likely to just gish-gallop away yet again from any of this just as when you continued to ignore addressing how Governors are "gerrymandered" into office. It's once again, very MAGA like.

[benjipwns]

And why I came back into this thread just now, for Himu, from a Blue State this time:
https://twitter.com/ACLU_NorCal/status/1589798406725468160
https://twitter.com/ACLU_NorCal/status/1589798418867949568

Assembly Bill (“AB”) 20981 threatens that candor. While California is rightly focused on the role of licensed medical professionals during the COVID-19 pandemic, AB 2098 goes too far. According to the State, the law is needed because an “extreme minority” of physicians have used their positions of trust—and popularity on social and legacy media—to propagate what the State deems “false or misleading information” about COVID-19.2 But rather than employ the existing tools at its disposal, the State has taken a blunt instrument to the entire profession. AB 2098 declares it “unprofessional conduct” for a physician to “disseminate misinformation or disinformation related to COVID-19,” with “disseminate” defined broadly as the “conveyance of information from the licensee to a patient under the licensee’s care in the form of treatment or advice.” AB 2098, § 2(a), § 2(b)(3).3

...

Fortunately, as even the State acknowledges, it does not need AB 2098 to keep patients safe. See Defs.’ Opp. to Mot. for Prelim. Inj. (“Opp.”), ECF 50, at 4–5. A less restrictive alternative exists: the California Business and Professions Code already regulates unprofessional conduct by physicians to the full extent allowed by the First Amendment. Under section 2234 of that code, physicians can be, and historically have been, disciplined for committing medical fraud, proscribing medically inappropriate treatment, and failing to provide patients with material information to make informed choices, like the availability of conventional treatment options. Requiring California to prove such unprofessional conduct before imposing a sanction neither ties officials’ hands nor harms patients. Indeed, the State does not explain why existing law has fallen so short as to justify a sweeping censorship law, or why the burden to prove unprofessional conduct under AB 2098 would be any less onerous than under the current section 2234.

[Occam]

What was completely false?

When you claimed that Republicans don't win elections, somehow take office anyway due to "gerrymandering"

I did not say that.

Minority rule has taken over Congress:

Democrats in the Senate represent 41.5 million more Americans than do Republicans. Yet that minority of Republicans, using the filibuster, have been able to stop everything from voting rights to healthcare to rebuilding our nation from the damage of 40 years of Reaganomics’ neoliberalism.

A total of 77.3 million Americans voted in 2020 for Democrats for the House of Representatives; only 72.8 million voted for Republicans.

Multiple states where the statewide vote is within a point or three of 50/50 (including Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Texas, Georgia, Arizona, North Carolina, Kentucky, Louisiana, and Wisconsin) send far more Republicans than Democrats to the US House than their votes would dictate because of Republican gerrymanders.

This fall things will get even worse because of 2021 gerrymanders, meaning that when over half of Americans again (if history and polling holds) vote for Democrats for the House, the GOP will nonetheless likely take control of that body.

Minority rule has taken over multiple states:

Most of the states listed above suffer from the same problem in their own legislatures. In statewide elections, because most voters choose Democrats, all but two of those states ended up with Democratic governors; nonetheless, even though only a minority voted for Republicans, their legislatures are still Republican-controlled because of gerrymandering.

https://www.rawstory.com/republicans-2657316597/

[Nintex]

Imagine giving a shit about some midterm elections in a country thousands of miles away

It's the world cup of politics and often a preview of what will happen in the NATO cinematic universe.

[benjipwns]

I did not say that.

Quoting to me an article based on the same incorrect premise your original claims was based on does not help your case that you're a serious poster who actually wants to discuss these topics. In the post you just quoted of mine I explained to you why this premise is incorrect and here you are simply repeating the premise.

Like, do you need an example or something? Assume five districts, how many Democratic House members should come from these results?
D1: 65 D, 35 R
D2: 60 R, 37 D
D3: 73 D, 24 R
D4: 52 D, 46 R
D5: 52 D, 45 R

If you're going to say that there should be a single statewide election (even though above you opposed statewide elections) and the five seats then allocated based on the statewide vote (56 D, 42 R in 2020) then you'll have to change the Constitution and federal law to reverse changes made to fight attempts to disenfranchise racial minorities, done mostly by Jim Crow states.

[Pissy F Benny]

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1589818145945972736



https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1589806553799872513

at how he says election

[Maiden Voyage]

I can't wait to vote for Donald Trump today. He's not on the ballot but by god I will write his name in on every topic. This should give him a few extra votes for '24.

 

[Occam]

Then there is no "abuse to further cement its position" through "corrupt judges" as you alleged because those judges are not being appointed by the people being elected in any legislative districts gerrymandered or not.

I took the time to look this up:

"Selection of State Court Judges

How state court judges are selected varies by state. States choose judges in any of the following ways:

    Appointment: The state's governor or legislature will choose their judges.
    Merit Selection: Judges are chosen by a legislative committee based on each potential judge's past performance. Some states hold "retention elections" to determine if the judge should continue to serve.
    Partisan Elections: Judges selected through partisan elections are voted in by the electorate, and often run as part of a political party's slate of candidates.
    Non-Partisan Elections: Potential judges that run for a judicial position in states with non-partisan elections put their names on the ballot, but do not list their party affiliates. Terms for judges in non-partisan elections can range between 6 and 10 years."
https://www.findlaw.com/litigation/legal-system/how-are-judges-selected.html

[benjipwns]

Yep, gish-gallop. You could have saved us time by saying you're just opposed to the entire concept of local representation as nearly every democracy has.

[Occam]

You claimed judge selection couldn't be affected by gerrymandering. I then showed you that indeed it can, depending on the state.

[james]

BLUE WAVE INCOMING SURFS UP BOIS

[Himu]

Their outcome will have an effect on the rest of the world. E.g. Ukraine, climate change.

Brother.

Okay.

So..

Representatives are the ones that have districts. Texas district 2. NY district 16. Those are the little pieces of land, the Salamander you called it. This happens for both red and blue. Congressmen and women control that. This is local.

Then there's county. A county is a local equivalent of a region. Look at the Wikipedia entry for county to see how ours differs than Europe's. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/County For county we vote things like judges. But the map changes. Although I'm from the Houston metro area I cannot vote for the Mayor because I don't live in city of Houston proper. I live in the golden land of suburbia and we got our own mayor, with our own town, and our own laws and jurisdiction. This is local. But I still get to vote some things within the county like Propositions. There's no one that can gerrymander judges because everyone and their mother votes in county. Judges are not reflected districts or an electoral map beyond county jurisdiction.

So despite living in a blue city, my actual district is Republican. It is made up of well to do yuppies, but also a mix of working class manufacturing, warehouses, airport jobs, et al. A lot of money comes and is used here. We vote Republican in this district. We are pro-police.

Then there's senators and governors and Comptroller's. These are state level positions and do NOT work via district or a map or a territory line. These are people everyone in the state votes for to represent us and our interests.  This is state level.

And then the whole shebang...the President. The President is the only office we vote for that's federal.

So despite Pelosi being a national star, she's really just a congresswoman for CA district 12. She is to defer to the interests of her district, that little piece of land, and their interests and take those interests to the people of Washington.

[Himu]

And why I came back into this thread just now, for Himu, from a Blue State this time:
https://twitter.com/ACLU_NorCal/status/1589798406725468160
https://twitter.com/ACLU_NorCal/status/1589798418867949568

Assembly Bill (“AB”) 20981 threatens that candor. While California is rightly focused on the role of licensed medical professionals during the COVID-19 pandemic, AB 2098 goes too far. According to the State, the law is needed because an “extreme minority” of physicians have used their positions of trust—and popularity on social and legacy media—to propagate what the State deems “false or misleading information” about COVID-19.2 But rather than employ the existing tools at its disposal, the State has taken a blunt instrument to the entire profession. AB 2098 declares it “unprofessional conduct” for a physician to “disseminate misinformation or disinformation related to COVID-19,” with “disseminate” defined broadly as the “conveyance of information from the licensee to a patient under the licensee’s care in the form of treatment or advice.” AB 2098, § 2(a), § 2(b)(3).3

...

Fortunately, as even the State acknowledges, it does not need AB 2098 to keep patients safe. See Defs.’ Opp. to Mot. for Prelim. Inj. (“Opp.”), ECF 50, at 4–5. A less restrictive alternative exists: the California Business and Professions Code already regulates unprofessional conduct by physicians to the full extent allowed by the First Amendment. Under section 2234 of that code, physicians can be, and historically have been, disciplined for committing medical fraud, proscribing medically inappropriate treatment, and failing to provide patients with material information to make informed choices, like the availability of conventional treatment options. Requiring California to prove such unprofessional conduct before imposing a sanction neither ties officials’ hands nor harms patients. Indeed, the State does not explain why existing law has fallen so short as to justify a sweeping censorship law, or why the burden to prove unprofessional conduct under AB 2098 would be any less onerous than under the current section 2234.

This is pretty bad. Can you please go over your issues with DeSantis more. I don't recall DeSantis administration doing anything like this?

[james]

I registered Himu in 17 states and submitted mail in votes all for D candidates

 

[Himu]

 

[Uncle]

[Occam]

Their outcome will have an effect on the rest of the world. E.g. Ukraine, climate change.

Brother.

Okay.

So..

Representatives are the ones that have districts. Texas district 2. NY district 16. Those are the little pieces of land, the Salamander you called it. This happens for both red and blue. Congressmen and women control that. This is local.

Then there's county. A county is a local equivalent of a region. Look at the Wikipedia entry for county to see how ours differs than Europe's. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/County For county we vote things like judges. But the map changes. Although I'm from the Houston metro area I cannot vote for the Mayor because I don't live in city of Houston proper. I live in the golden land of suburbia and we got our own mayor, with our own town, and our own laws and jurisdiction. This is local. But I still get to vote some things within the county like Propositions. There's no one that can gerrymander judges because everyone and their mother votes in county. Judges are not reflected districts or an electoral map beyond county jurisdiction.

So despite living in a blue city, my actual district is Republican. It is made up of well to do yuppies, but also a mix of working class manufacturing, warehouses, airport jobs, et al. A lot of money comes and is used here. We vote Republican in this district. We are pro-police.

Then there's senators and governors and Comptroller's. These are state level positions and do NOT work via district or a map or a territory line. These are people everyone in the state votes for to represent us and our interests.  This is state level.

And then the whole shebang...the President. The President is the only office we vote for that's federal.

So despite Pelosi being a national star, she's really just a congresswoman for CA district 12. She is to defer to the interests of her district, that little piece of land, and their interests and take those interests to the people of Washington.

Yeah, thanks. Contrary to what benji says, I do understand this. The question is (and I really mean no offense!) do you understand what is meant by Gerrymandering?

[Nintex]

Record turnout is being reported but some areas are lagging behind

https://twitter.com/RyanGirdusky/status/1590040115694358528

DeSantis is crushing it
https://twitter.com/RedStateIdeas/status/1590032079894458368

[Uncle]

Yeah, thanks. Contrary to what benji says, I do understand this. The question is (and I really mean no offense!) do you understand what is meant by Gerrymandering?

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I'm not actually sure if you do understand at this point

it feels like you heard "gerrymandering is a problem in the US" once and didn't look into exactly how much of the entire process it might affect

you know it only has anything to do with the house, right?



you know that there are tons of races, local and national, that have nothing to do with this?

additionally, even though it does represent an avenue for abuse, might it not apply to both parties to some extent, giving each of them a certain amount of undue power in their respective areas?  and in fact, maybe it doesn't apply uniformly, and large swaths of the US are represented reasonably fairly?



(those california areas (california is on the left) are deeply blue)

[Occam]

Yes, I do understand all of this. I know it has nothing to do with the Senate. I know some blue states are guilty of it, too, but looking at the map it definitely seems to be more of a problem in red states.
Ideally, there should be none.

[Nintex]

They brought back the Needle

https://twitter.com/carolynryan/status/1590048472496906240

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

I can’t get home due to a snowstorm so I’m going to be unable to vote. Thankfully it’s just a midterm election!

[Uncle]

Yes, I do understand all of this. I know it has nothing to do with the Senate. I know some blue states are guilty of it, too, but looking at the map it definitely seems to be more of a problem in red states.
Ideally, there should be none.

however, even if it was more of a problem in red states, since red states are mostly unpopulated, there are much fewer house seats for them anyway



https://www.vox.com/22961590/redistricting-gerrymandering-house-2022-midterms

[Occam]

Why does DeSantis always look like he is constipated?

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/pasquines_us/status/1590050197727744001

First win of the day, congratulations to the Guam Patriots. 

Why does DeSantis always look like he is constipated?

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He kinda looks like an elephant tbh

[Himu]

Democrats gerrymander to!

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/new-york-top-court-tosses-congressisonal-map-democratic-gerrymandering-rcna26138

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/05/new-york-democrats-gerrymandered-a-fiasco.html

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1590060806212837378

Reality is setting in on election day.

[james]

Everyone I talked to today is voting blue. EVERYONE. Its going to be a tsunami

[james]

https://twitter.com/MarketUrbanism/status/1590064751996207105

 

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/ElectionWiz/status/1589978486441381888

 

[james]

https://twitter.com/CourierNewsroom/status/1590047424823046145