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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #3124 on: November 08, 2022, 04:49:25 PM »
You claimed judge selection couldn't be affected by gerrymandering. I then showed you that indeed it can, depending on the state.
You responded to a general claim made against your general claim by "citing" a hypothetical specific claim of an exception. :lol

Yes, I do understand all of this. I know it has nothing to do with the Senate. I know some blue states are guilty of it, too, but looking at the map it definitely seems to be more of a problem in red states.
Ideally, there should be none.
My dude, we can all see what Potato said that you were responding to:
The problem with democracy is that if the other guys get more votes than your team, they win...

That's not a problem. This is:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering_in_the_United_States

For instance: "Republicans in North Carolina acquired 50% of the vote, which subsequently garnered them about 77% of the available seats in congress." And then you install corrupt judges who back this and you are set.

Very democracy!

When I told you that's just the result of geographic districts you ignored that to talk about gerrymandering again and then started saying stuff like "land votes" which doesn't even make sense. It seems to me you obviously believed that mass gerrymandering (probably countrywide) was somehow allowing Republicans to win elections without actually winning elections. I know you believed this because when I pressed you on this point you started talking about hypothetical veto-proof majorities caused by gerrymandering. Then when I told you directly why hypothetical PR results were irrelevant you "cited" a Raw Story article about hypothetical PR results proving something or other even though as I just had told you, the United States doesn't do any of these elections by PR. Did you even realize that Congressional districts in states are uniform population sizes until I gave you the Oregon example you ignored? Just how many seats an election cycle do you believe are being flipped by gerrymandering? It honestly sounds like you think it's hundreds and more at lower levels. Are you ever going to make a proposal about what you do think should be done because it sounds like your beef is just about local representation in general? (Which is yet again a problem you only seem to have with the United States doing it.) You can't do at-large statewide districts so do you want them to redraw the lines after each election to do something impossible (match the statewide vote) when constant redistricting is exactly what gerrymanderers and Republicans do? I pointed you towards one potential solution a number of states have implemented and you brushed it off by saying "land votes" while also spending your time invalidating another by declaring any judge who gives a result you don't like "corrupt" and part of the conspiracy.

You read an article or some claims without knowing the context, thought you had another epic proof you wanted to share with the ignorant members of The Bire and now you're Googling and grabbing borderline irrelevant things while ignoring the direct argument in hopes of somehow convincing others that you were actually right when you said something irrelevant or wrong all without ever stopping to learn the missing context that led you to think you knew something because you knew something false. It's okay, we've maybe all been there in some way one or more times, and there's an easy solution: dig up, stupid.

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #3125 on: November 08, 2022, 04:49:40 PM »
https://twitter.com/JohnSurico/status/1590069399947739138

Also consider that polling in locations in the burbs will be more empty than ones in the city.

« Last Edit: November 08, 2022, 04:55:32 PM by Himu »
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #3126 on: November 08, 2022, 04:57:37 PM »
Exit polls drop in a few minutes but I read that the Guam Exit Poll actually had the Republican losing by 13 points and the vote count showed he won by 5 points.
I suppose the R's don't trust the pollsters either.
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #3127 on: November 08, 2022, 05:00:38 PM »
Exit polls drop in a few minutes but I read that the Guam Exit Poll actually had the Republican losing by 13 points and the vote count showed he won by 5 points.
I suppose the R's don't trust the pollsters either.

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #3128 on: November 08, 2022, 05:09:15 PM »
This Nevada Pollster who predicted the Democrats to win has already thrown in the towel.
https://twitter.com/RalstonReports/status/1590099775981965313

According to the CNN exit poll 36 percent say Bidens policies are helping the country

HOLY FUCKING SHIT






Not all doom and gloom for the Democrats most voters seem to support abortion

https://twitter.com/townhallcom/status/1590106667407925248

Most voters agree with Benji too

CNN exit poll on race:
White: 76%
Black: 9%
Latino: 10%
Asian: 2%
Native: 1%
Other: 2%
« Last Edit: November 08, 2022, 05:27:03 PM by Nintex »
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #3129 on: November 08, 2022, 05:28:06 PM »
Most voters want bernie

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #3132 on: November 08, 2022, 05:57:40 PM »
STAY ONLINE PATRIOTS :salute


Well that's it, Democracy has ended this was the last election. It's over, done, finito.
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #3135 on: November 08, 2022, 06:21:48 PM »
Dumb fucks will eat that up and agree with the orange cunt too
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #3136 on: November 08, 2022, 06:28:31 PM »
CNN: don't go to social media trust us

CNN: I forget my password and run out of ink too, mistakes can be made haha this election is totally legit people

CNN: We just reported that 36k mail-in ballots have to be cured in PA, we want to set the record straight that it's actually only 3600.


CNN saying that you can trust them is like a 5 year old swearing he didn't steel from the cookie jar.
If you didn't believe in the conspiracies before, you do after that clown show.  :lol
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #3139 on: November 08, 2022, 06:40:35 PM »
DEMOCRAT LANDSLIDE AS THE FIRST VOTES COME IN

 :drudge :drudge :drudge :drudge


https://twitter.com/norwood270/status/1590072263315161088
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #3143 on: November 08, 2022, 06:51:05 PM »
Georgia thinks Warnock is more extreme than Walker, CNN can barely believe their own exit poll  :lol
Experience matters only to 8% of voters.


The AFP team knows
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #3144 on: November 08, 2022, 07:00:11 PM »
Where are their masks? :tocry
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #3145 on: November 08, 2022, 07:07:25 PM »
People are telling me about this future Maryland governor. This brother's story is very inspiring. Use that story and try to uplift people!

https://twitter.com/EmpactNews/status/1590122670108000256
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #3146 on: November 08, 2022, 07:08:29 PM »
In Florida the goose is cooked. While CNN is blabbering about how Democratic counties are rolling in DeSantis and Rubio are going to the moon behind them.

Georgia is 99% the early vote. Already 60/40 split. The Democrats are going to get blown the fuck out.  :doge
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #3147 on: November 08, 2022, 07:48:01 PM »
Florida has been R for over 20 years. Its like being shocked that CA went blue
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #3148 on: November 08, 2022, 07:57:56 PM »
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #3149 on: November 08, 2022, 08:23:36 PM »
Republicans celebrating Florida...

LMAO

Everyone with a brain has left the state. Its a dead end. Will be underwater in ten years.

Enjoy having no insurance market next year

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #3153 on: November 08, 2022, 08:45:38 PM »
It's lucky for Ted Cruz that power outs don't influence voting behavior.
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #3154 on: November 08, 2022, 08:47:50 PM »
Edit: bad source
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #3155 on: November 08, 2022, 08:57:34 PM »
Fuckin hell that's what I imagined Finale Fireworker looks like

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #3156 on: November 08, 2022, 08:57:48 PM »
So far, Dems have lost two House seats.
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #3159 on: November 08, 2022, 09:04:57 PM »
Right now, my analysis is that the Republican victories are all Trump's doing, while the defeats have nothing to do with him. Will be interesting to see if this keeps up.

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #3160 on: November 08, 2022, 09:13:39 PM »
FUNG WAS LEADING IN EVERY SINGLE POLL BY UP TO 14 POINTS


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

https://twitter.com/TedNesi/status/1590164063275057153

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #3161 on: November 08, 2022, 09:22:05 PM »
https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1590147096329728000

not even a "thanks for all your support everyone, we fought hard but it wasn't meant to be, maybe next time"  ??? ??? ???
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #3162 on: November 08, 2022, 09:23:04 PM »
DeSantis :rejoice



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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #3163 on: November 08, 2022, 09:24:35 PM »
https://gizmodo.com/donald-trump-homeland-security-report-antifa-portland-1849718673

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The report describes attempts by top officials to link protesters to an imaginary terrorist plot in an apparent effort to boost Trump’s reelection odds, raising concerns now about the ability of a sitting president to co-opt billions of dollars’ worth of domestic intelligence assets for their own political gain. DHS analysts recounted orders to generate evidence of financial ties between protesters in custody; an effort that, had they not failed, would have seemingly served to legitimize President Trump’s false claims about “Antifa,” an “organization” that even his most loyal intelligence officers failed to drum up proof ever existed.

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #3164 on: November 08, 2022, 09:28:30 PM »
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They askin about how fascism beat democracy in those two but not Miami-Dade?

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #3166 on: November 08, 2022, 09:46:02 PM »
Holy shit Dan Patrick (Lt. Gov of Texas that said to sacrifice grandma for the economy) and Ken Paxton might lose!! I voted against both! So good! Still time to turn it around for them though. It's early. But hopefully they lose.

Hidalgo seems she might win.

New York seems to be stick with Hochul but only 20% called in so far. :stahp

Walker is ahead!
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #3167 on: November 08, 2022, 09:52:01 PM »
https://twitter.com/DecisionDeskHQ/status/1590169805541109760

Incoming Abrams reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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« Reply #3168 on: November 08, 2022, 10:00:36 PM »


ahahahah Abrams fucked it up for Warnock. Go Walker!

As someone said on my discord:

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Georgians are going to elect a degenerate and im here for it


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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #3169 on: November 08, 2022, 10:03:28 PM »
Has the steal been stopped yet?
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #3170 on: November 08, 2022, 10:08:41 PM »
https://twitter.com/DecisionDeskHQ/status/1590174825699344386

He has a great story. Let's see how moderate he is. Might be a viable party leader.
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #3171 on: November 08, 2022, 10:09:31 PM »
Has the steal been stopped yet?
No, Biden is sitting by and doing nothing. Just like he did with Long COVID. This is why 2024 will be the most important election in our lifetime.

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #3172 on: November 08, 2022, 10:13:16 PM »
Looking like I was right. No red tsunami so far. Republicans should take the house but this isn't 2006 or 2010.
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« Reply #3173 on: November 08, 2022, 10:17:12 PM »
Yes you were right. :stahp

But I'm getting my wins where I need em.
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #3174 on: November 08, 2022, 10:18:40 PM »
https://twitter.com/DecisionDeskHQ/status/1590180679366901761

Whitmer should be called the winner in MI soon. Biden/dem candidate have a clear path to re-election for 2024.
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #3175 on: November 08, 2022, 10:20:05 PM »




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« Reply #3176 on: November 08, 2022, 10:21:01 PM »
Has the steal been stopped yet?
No, Biden is sitting by and doing nothing. Just like he did with Long COVID. This is why 2024 will be the most important election in our lifetime.

The Russians got to Joe too? Or was he always with them?

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« Reply #3177 on: November 08, 2022, 10:25:53 PM »
As long as there's a Republican house and Senate I am satisfied. :)

GOP needs to find any way to get Trump to not run. He will likely lose in 2024 going by tonight.
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #3178 on: November 08, 2022, 10:31:16 PM »
Looking like I was right. No red tsunami so far. Republicans should take the house but this isn't 2006 or 2010.
Wait for the absentees, you can't go by just the votes on election day, those always favor the Democrats. Also, the military votes. Really, we won't know the winners for a long time. Even the forensic audits might not uncover the actual winners like happened in Arizona.

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #3179 on: November 08, 2022, 10:32:27 PM »
R+5 House seats so far!
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