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« Reply #5040 on: May 17, 2023, 02:27:04 PM »
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« Reply #5041 on: May 17, 2023, 02:43:36 PM »
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #5043 on: May 17, 2023, 03:03:18 PM »
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« Reply #5044 on: May 17, 2023, 04:32:44 PM »
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« Reply #5045 on: May 17, 2023, 04:36:07 PM »
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #5046 on: May 17, 2023, 10:22:39 PM »
A group of House progressives led by Rep. Cori Bush, D-Mo., have revived discussions at the federal level about giving reparations to Black Americans who descended from slaves and Americans of African descent.

Bush held a press conference on Wednesday unveiling her Reparations Now resolution, which declares "that the United States has a moral and legal obligation to provide reparations for the enslavement of Africans and its massive harm on the lives of millions."

She spoke alongside fellow Squad members Reps. Jamaal Bowman, D-N.Y., and Rashida Tlaib, D-Mich., as well as Senate candidate Rep. Barbara Lee, D-Calif., and freshman Rep. Summer Lee., D-Pa., and a host of activists from around the country.

"Black people in our country cannot wait any longer for our government to begin addressing… all of the harm it has caused since the founding, that it continues to perpetuate each and every day all across our communities, all across this country," Bush said.
Now we're talking! :phil :jeb

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"Let us speak this truth, uncomfortable as it may be: Our country was not founded on the principle that all people are created equal. It was founded at the expense of the lives, freedom and well-being of Black people, African folks who they stole."

"The truth is uncomfortable," Bush added, before explaining how slavery was an "integral part of our country's development."

"By 1831, the United States was delivering nearly half of the world's raw cotton crop as a result of chattel slavery. In 1861 alone, the value placed on cotton produced by enslaved Black people was $250 million, or more than $8 billion today. All of this happened not in spite of the federal government, but because of it," the St. Louis Democrat said.
Oh. :fbm

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #5048 on: May 17, 2023, 11:59:02 PM »
Uncle's fascist lies debunked, democracy saved from elected officials being able to suppress free speech:
riters' group PEN America and publisher Penguin Random House sued a Florida school district Wednesday over its removal of books about race and LGBTQ+ identities, the latest opposition to a policy central to Gov. Ron DeSantis’ agenda as he prepares to run for president.

The federal lawsuit alleges the Escambia County School District and its School Board are violating the First Amendment through the removal of 10 books from library shelves.

The case does not name DeSantis as a defendant though the Republican governor has championed policies that allow the censorship and challenging of books based on whether they are appropriate for children in schools, causing national uproar.
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“Books have the capacity to change lives for the better, and students in particular deserve equitable access to a wide range of perspectives. Censorship, in the form of book bans like those enacted by Escambia County, are a direct threat to democracy and our Constitutional rights,” Nihar Malaviya, CEO of Penguin Random House, said in a statement.

Escambia County school officials did not immediately return a request for comment.
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The lawsuit says the removals stem from objections from one language arts teacher in the county, and in each case the school board voted to remove the books over recommendations from a district review committee that deemed them educationally suitable.

The teacher's formal objections to the books appear to draw on materials compiled by a website that creates reports on books it deems ideologically unsuitable for children, according to the lawsuit.

In one example cited in the lawsuit, the teacher admitted she had never heard of the book “The Perks of Being a Wallflower” by Stephen Chbosky but filed an objection form to the novel that contained specific excerpts and phrasing from the book ban website.

Among the other removed books are “The Bluest Eye” by Toni Morrison, “The Nowhere Girls” by Amy Reed and “Lucky” by Alice Sebold. The lawsuit said more than 150 additional books are under review by the school board.

“In Escambia County, state censors are spiriting books off shelves in a deliberate attempt to suppress diverse voices. In a nation built on free speech, this cannot stand," said Suzanne Nossel, CEO of PEN America. "The law demands that the Escambia County School District put removed or restricted books back on library shelves where they belong.”
:usacry :usacry :usacry :usacry

No news story explains how they have standing and this is on their lawsuit webpage:
The lawsuit asks that the district return the books to shelves immediately and permanently, and be prohibited from removing the books again. The lawsuit also seeks attorney fees and expenses.
Plaintiffs bring this lawsuit because that is exactly what is happening in
Escambia County. Books are being ordered removed from libraries, or subject to
restricted access within those libraries, based on an ideologically driven campaign
to push certain ideas out of schools. Further, the School Board is ordering the
removal against the recommendations of experts within the School District. This
disregard for professional guidance underscores that the agendas underlying the
removals are ideological and political, not pedagogical.
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The actions of the School District and School Board also violate the
Equal Protection Clause because the books being singled out for possible removal
are disproportionately books by non-white and/or LGBTQ authors, or which address
topics related to race or LGBTQ identity. This is no accident. The clear agenda
behind the campaign to remove the books is to categorically remove all discussion
of racial discrimination or LGBTQ issues from public school libraries. Government
action may not be premised on such discriminatory motivations.
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The barriers for students to access restricted books are significant. To
access them, a student—who could be as young as 5 years old—must find a librarian,
ask the librarian for permission to access a book that has been designated as
“pornographic” or otherwise unsuitable for school-aged children, and then wait
while that librarian verifies that the student, in fact, has parental permission to access
it. Forcing students to undertake these steps, and endure the stigma that goes along
with undertaking them, is having a profound chilling effect on students seeking
access to the restricted books.
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As a consequence of this targeting of books by non-white and LGBTQ
authors, authors belonging to such groups are disproportionately hindered in their
ability to reach young audiences, including non-white and LGBTQ students.

Most of this lawsuit is nonsense but there's a tiny hook among all the bitching:
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It is equally apparent that the books that have been targeted for removal,
and which could be subject to permanent removal at any moment, are books in which
the central objection to their presence in the library is ideological, not pedagogical.
Indeed, because the School District is currently restricting access to virtually any
book that the challenger alleges contains sexual content or references the existence
of same-sex relationships or transgender persons—without regard to anything else
about the book’s contents—the School District is, in effect, giving private citizens
the unilateral right to restrict student access to books to which they object.
Or it would be, but cancel culture does not exist.

Plus they kind of stomp on this when they talk about the damages:
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Durtschi’s third-grader would like to access and check out books that
are no longer available in her school’s library because of the book removals and
book restrictions. In particular, she would like to access and check out Too Bright
to See, Drama, and New Kid. Each of those books is currently unavailable or
restricted in her school library as a result of the actions of the School District and the
School Board.
146. Durtschi’s first-grader would also like to access and check out books
that are no longer available in her school’s library because of the book removals and
book restrictions. In particular, she would like to access and check out Tango, Aidan,
and Uncle Bobby’s Wedding. Each of those books is currently unavailable or
restricted in her school library as a result of the actions of the School District and the
School Board.
147. Durtschi herself would like those particular books, and others like them,
to be available to her children in their school library. It is very important to her that
her children have opportunities to be exposed to points of view, backgrounds, and
experiences different from their own. She believes such exposure is critical for
preparing them for participation in our wider society
Apparently it violates free speech to allow one woman to complain the books are there but not another woman to complain the books aren't there.

My favorite part are where PEN and Random House declare standing:
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PEN America has standing to sue to enjoin the Defendants’ book
removals and restrictions because the actions of the School District and School
Board have caused direct organizational injury to PEN America.
153. As a consequence of the national movement to remove books from
public school libraries based on political or ideological objections—including in
Escambia County—PEN America has had to reallocate significant financial
resources and time to addressing this issue and away from other priorities. For
example, PEN America has had to hire full-time staff to work solely on (a) tracking
and reporting on book removals, (b) supporting author-members who have concerns
about what is happening to their own books, and (c) responding to a consistent
onslaught of inquiries and notifications from parents, teachers, students and media
concerned about the situation regarding book removals and looking to PEN America
for insight and guidance. In addition, because of the focus on book removals, PEN
America has had fewer personnel dedicated to free speech education for youth or to
free speech issues on college campuses, two other areas related to education on
which PEN America has typically focused its resources
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. Millions of books published by PRH are sold into Florida each year,
including to school districts and public libraries. PRH has standing to sue to enjoin
Defendants’ book removal and restrictions because certain of the books it publishes,
including books by Toni Morrison, Kurt Vonnegut, Eric Carle, Kyle Lukoff,
Sapphire, and David Levithan, have been (a) removed from libraries within the
School District, and/or (b) subject to restricted access of an indefinite period pending
adjudication of a challenge. A publisher’s ability to publish and sell books freely is
affected when state or local officials restrict circulation or remove the publisher’s books.
Unlimited Commerce Clause ftw. :mouf

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #5049 on: May 18, 2023, 06:33:32 AM »
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #5050 on: May 18, 2023, 06:35:47 AM »
permanently? in other words when the books get dog-eared and worn out and less relevant to modern sensibilities, the library is still required to spend state tax dollars on specific products from corporations in order to replace them?

when library statistics show one or more of them are checked out less often than the majority of books, the school isn't allowed to make space for others, instead must perpetually keep room set aside for this specific albatross ruled on in this case?
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #5051 on: May 18, 2023, 07:21:11 AM »
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a student—who could be as young as 5 years old—must find a librarian, ask the librarian for permission to access a book that has been designated as “pornographic” or otherwise unsuitable for school-aged children, and then wait while that librarian verifies that the student, in fact, has parental permission to access it.
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #5052 on: May 18, 2023, 02:57:45 PM »
Florida is a failed state, large businesses are fleeing in droves

https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/1659264345598226434
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #5053 on: May 18, 2023, 03:02:58 PM »
Who needs jobs when you “own” the libs? :desoy
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #5054 on: May 18, 2023, 03:43:13 PM »
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #5055 on: May 18, 2023, 06:36:17 PM »
permanently? in other words when the books get dog-eared and worn out and less relevant to modern sensibilities, the library is still required to spend state tax dollars on specific products from corporations in order to replace them?

when library statistics show one or more of them are checked out less often than the majority of books, the school isn't allowed to make space for others, instead must perpetually keep room set aside for this specific albatross ruled on in this case?
What part of some woman and her ugly dumb kids want books from the library are you not understanding? Is it the part where elected officials should not be able to overrule experts?

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #5057 on: May 19, 2023, 12:09:03 AM »
Let the man relax! End the drug war! :usacry :usacry :usacry :usacry

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« Reply #5058 on: May 19, 2023, 02:41:56 AM »
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #5059 on: May 19, 2023, 03:40:14 AM »
Let the man relax! End the drug war! :usacry :usacry :usacry :usacry
You're not supposed to end the drug war by surrendering to it.

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #5061 on: May 20, 2023, 02:13:36 AM »
one of these days I'm going to yell "theater!" at a crowded fire just to see what happens
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #5062 on: May 20, 2023, 03:36:20 AM »
Let the man relax! End the drug war! :usacry :usacry :usacry :usacry
You're not supposed to end the drug war by surrendering to it.
If you've got a better idea to end the drug war than by consuming all the drugs personally I'd like to hear it! :bolo

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« Reply #5063 on: May 20, 2023, 03:39:33 AM »
direct action  :pimp
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #5064 on: May 20, 2023, 06:41:03 AM »
https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1659012289633083392

 :gopnik

Why is that "Where is" Hunter can smoke a crack pipe and lay pipe while a great guy like Matty gets in trouble just for holding a pipe (which was probably planted by the corrupt injustice department).
Maybe our great police should wake up the guy in the White House to secure our borders instead of attacking country loving Republican legoslators who are fighting hard to make AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.
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« Reply #5065 on: May 20, 2023, 06:44:06 AM »
I don't want to live in a country where a guy can't hit the pipe in his own car tbh  :stahp
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #5067 on: May 21, 2023, 04:47:15 AM »
Notice congress isn't talking about the topic of the year, AI?

There's talk of AI replacing Hollywood writers. By the end of this decade AI will be able to read through whole bills and make ethical evaluations. It could literally make politicians outdated. Why are they not discussing this?
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« Reply #5068 on: May 21, 2023, 05:03:17 AM »
the matrix is real  8)
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« Reply #5070 on: May 21, 2023, 06:34:52 AM »
Notice congress isn't talking about the topic of the year, AI?

There's talk of AI replacing Hollywood writers. By the end of this decade AI will be able to read through whole bills and make ethical evaluations. It could literally make politicians outdated. Why are they not discussing this?

There was a senate hearing about it just the other day. Keep in mind they asked Sam Altman (of OpenAI) to appear who has a financial incentive to push back against open source development as it's competition and has been seen by various as wanting to 'lock in' their existing position by influencing regulation on smaller players.

When a senator asked how power wouldn't be concentrated in the few largest companies in the space, instead of mentioning the democratization of open source he went on to point to how his company has allowed democratization of AI (despite most of it being closed source and commercial).

His company co-authored a paper a few months back proposing measures like government restriction of sales of GPU hardware to consumers, restricted access to models and for users have a form of human ID to post generated content on social media—ostensibly to fight disinformation but conveniently would stifle open source developments which compete with their offerings. They amusingly cite a joke 4chan-trained text model a Youtuber made and used exclusively on 4chan for a few days as a bot as an example of non-theoretical 'influence operations'.

An alleged Google internal report leaked recently which is in line with the largest players' concerns that the open source community is progressing at a much more rapid pace than their timelines, while also being more agile since new developments have meant large trained models (which are very expensive to produce, meaning only the most well-funded could make them) are not always as relevant since smaller standalone and/or supplementary models can be made by the community and tailored to specific needs.

As for text models' use in government Congress already approved licenses of ChatGPT for 'creating and summarizing' content.
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #5071 on: May 21, 2023, 06:59:21 AM »
If Trump is re-elected every problem and conflict will be solved within 24 hours by this new wonderful app he found that he calls the Chat.  :trumps
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #5073 on: May 21, 2023, 07:30:26 AM »
Notice congress isn't talking about the topic of the year, AI?

There's talk of AI replacing Hollywood writers. By the end of this decade AI will be able to read through whole bills and make ethical evaluations. It could literally make politicians outdated. Why are they not discussing this?

There was a senate hearing about it just the other day. Keep in mind they asked Sam Altman (of OpenAI) to appear who has a financial incentive to push back against open source development as it's competition and has been seen by various as wanting to 'lock in' their existing position by influencing regulation on smaller players.

When a senator asked how power wouldn't be concentrated in the few largest companies in the space, instead of mentioning the democratization of open source he went on to point to how his company has allowed democratization of AI (despite most of it being closed source and commercial).

His company co-authored a paper a few months back proposing measures like government restriction of sales of GPU hardware to consumers, restricted access to models and for users have a form of human ID to post generated content on social media—ostensibly to fight disinformation but conveniently would stifle open source developments which compete with their offerings. They amusingly cite a joke 4chan-trained text model a Youtuber made and used exclusively on 4chan for a few days as a bot as an example of non-theoretical 'influence operations'.

An alleged Google internal report leaked recently which is in line with the largest players' concerns that the open source community is progressing at a much more rapid pace than their timelines, while also being more agile since new developments have meant large trained models (which are very expensive to produce, meaning only the most well-funded could make them) are not always as relevant since smaller standalone and/or supplementary models can be made by the community and tailored to specific needs.

As for text models' use in government Congress already approved licenses of ChatGPT for 'creating and summarizing' content.

Thanks for the clarification
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #5075 on: May 21, 2023, 05:15:55 PM »
That’s just how Texans regularly speak.
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« Reply #5078 on: May 23, 2023, 12:03:12 AM »
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #5079 on: May 23, 2023, 03:14:04 AM »
https://twitter.com/rawsalerts/status/1660873549077434368

Now that's what you call a false flag  8)
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« Reply #5080 on: May 23, 2023, 10:38:02 AM »
Suspect is a White supremacist called.... Sai Varshith Kandula.
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« Reply #5083 on: May 23, 2023, 11:50:02 PM »
Clinton said she had a “very negative response” to my question.

“Let me say a word about my friend and longtime colleague Dianne Feinstein,” she continued. “First of all, she has suffered greatly from the bout of shingles and encephalitis that she endured. Here is the dilemma for her: she got reelected, the people of California voted for her again, not very long ago. That was the voters’ decision to vote for her, and she has been a remarkable and very effective leader.”

“Here’s the dilemma: the Republicans will not agree to add someone else to the Judiciary Committee if she retires,” she continued, referencing Feinstein’s powerful committee membership. (When Feinstein was absent from the Senate for nearly three months this year recovering from health issues, it created a logjam on the narrowly divided Judiciary Committee, since Democrats were unable to confirm President Joe Biden’s judicial nominees without Republican support.) “I want you to think about how crummy that is. I don’t know in her heart about whether she really would or wouldn’t, but right now, she can’t. Because if we’re going to get judges confirmed, which is one of the most important continuing obligations that we have, then we cannot afford to have her seat vacant.”

“If Republicans were to say and do the decent thing and say, well this woman was gravely ill, she had just lost her husband to cancer… of course we will let you fill this position if she retires. But they won’t say that,” she continued. “So what are we supposed to do? All these people pushing her to retire: fine, we get no more judges? I don’t think that’s a good tradeoff.”

When I asked her again about the broader question of whether Democrats have allowed their leadership to get too old, she pushed back. “I do not believe in broad questions about age,” Clinton, age 75, said, adding that she also didn’t believe in term limits. “If you don’t want to vote for somebody, don’t vote for them. But don’t impose some artificial check on the voters. I don’t buy this whole debate. And frankly, a lot of the people pushing it, I don’t understand what their real agenda is, because part of it is a bank shot against Joe Biden. And I think Joe Biden has done a very good job.”
Senator solidarity. :patel

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #5084 on: May 23, 2023, 11:56:40 PM »
https://twitter.com/amyklobuchar/status/1661165820503035906

 :karen

edit: State Attorney General also getting in on the unconstitutional and terrible law making:
https://twitter.com/PAAttorneyGen/status/1661118178057920547

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #5086 on: May 24, 2023, 05:03:45 AM »
True. I haven’t gotten a decent like in months :smug
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #5088 on: May 24, 2023, 06:41:40 PM »
Imagine being such a repulsive dork that fucking Trump is the baby-face in your race :desoy

I hope Trump metaphorically waterboards him with custard.
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #5093 on: May 25, 2023, 03:24:45 AM »
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CBS News has learned that North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum is nearing a decision to launch a dark-horse bid for the White House, and has begun hiring political consultants who have advised previous Republican presidential campaigns, according to GOP sources familiar with the planning.





omg he needs to go back to this
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« Reply #5094 on: May 25, 2023, 07:40:47 AM »
DeSantis doing the Twitter thing wtf was he thinking
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #5095 on: May 25, 2023, 11:36:32 AM »
He's thinking maybe he'll get to be VP and hanged during the next Capitol insurrection.
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #5096 on: May 25, 2023, 03:17:37 PM »
Whatever it was that they did, it worked

https://twitter.com/stacyhrae/status/1661539461404979202
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #5097 on: May 25, 2023, 05:09:53 PM »
He's thinking maybe he'll get to be VP and hanged during the next Capitol insurrection.

Could you imagine if, in slim chances, Trump lost the primary? If he's denied 2020 election for so long no way would be concede the primary lmao
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benjipwns

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #5098 on: May 25, 2023, 05:26:50 PM »
Could you imagine if, in slim chances, Trump lost the primary? If he's denied 2020 election for so long no way would be concede the primary lmao
He claimed almost all the way to the 2016 convention they were going to try and steal it from him even after the RNC had announced he was the nominee.

Trump's uniqueness isn't in claiming his losses were stolen, tons of politicians do that, it's in his insecurity making him need to repeatedly claim it's going to be stolen before the elections.
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #5099 on: May 25, 2023, 05:38:21 PM »
https://www.electionbettingodds.com/

Love these odds.

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Hillary Clinton
2.1% to win democratic nom
0.0% to win presidency

Meanwhile

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Michelle Obama
0.0% to win democratic nom
1.9% chance to win presidency