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TVC15

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« Reply #9420 on: June 30, 2014, 07:23:36 PM »
Dazed and Confused is a legitimately awesome movie.

Richard Linklater :hump
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« Reply #9421 on: June 30, 2014, 07:34:35 PM »
There's a "typical" stoner comedy?
Yes? The Big Lebowski, Dazed and Confused, Pineapple Express, Harold & Kumar, etc..

Pineapple Express and Harold & Kumar I get. But Big Lebowski? Dazed and Confused? Are you serious?  :gurl
I'm not saying the movies are all the same quality, but the humor between them all can be quite similar or derived from a very specific pool of jokes that appeals mostly to those who smoke weed all day every day.

High Maintenance, however, isn't so much concerned with the actual weed itself but the people's lives that a weed dealer has a purview into by virtue of giving them that vice.

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« Reply #9422 on: June 30, 2014, 07:36:42 PM »
There's a "typical" stoner comedy?
Yes? The Big Lebowski, Dazed and Confused, Pineapple Express, Harold & Kumar, etc..

Pineapple Express and Harold & Kumar I get. But Big Lebowski? Dazed and Confused? Are you serious?  :gurl
I'm not saying the movies are all the same quality, but the humor between them all can be quite similar or derived from a very specific pool of jokes that appeals mostly to those who smoke weed all day every day.

High Maintenance, however, isn't so much concerned with the actual weed itself but the people's lives that a weed dealer has a purview into by virtue of giving them that vice.

This is Dazed and Confused, too.
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« Reply #9423 on: June 30, 2014, 07:37:28 PM »
well whatever, just watch high maintenance pls

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« Reply #9424 on: June 30, 2014, 07:52:33 PM »
Spencer, what is your favorite episode so far

TVC15

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« Reply #9425 on: June 30, 2014, 07:56:36 PM »
and I'd argue the movie was barely a comedy and more of a hang out movie with heavy emphasis on dialogue

This mirrors what Richard Linklater says in the commentary. He states that it was his first film after Slacker and he got this studio gig, but he didn't know what he was doing so he basically made a different version of Slacker.
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« Reply #9426 on: June 30, 2014, 07:58:11 PM »
Also, exodust, see Slacker if you like D&C. I'm sure you've already seen it if you like Linklater a lot. Slacker, D&C, Waking Life, and A Scanner Darkly are all practically partner films.
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« Reply #9427 on: June 30, 2014, 08:05:53 PM »
shits on the wire but enjoys waking life.....

 :comeon
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ZephyrFate

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« Reply #9428 on: June 30, 2014, 08:11:54 PM »
Boyhood is going to be awesome.

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« Reply #9429 on: June 30, 2014, 08:31:06 PM »
well whatever, just watch high maintenance pls

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« Reply #9430 on: June 30, 2014, 08:32:55 PM »
https://tv.yahoo.com/blogs/tv-news/community-season-6-yahoo-204612

Wow. I can't help but think there was a big bidding war, surprised to see Yahoo beat out Netflix.
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« Reply #9431 on: June 30, 2014, 08:34:32 PM »
well whatever, just watch high maintenance pls

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« Reply #9432 on: June 30, 2014, 09:14:13 PM »
Just sayin' sorry!

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« Reply #9433 on: June 30, 2014, 09:42:39 PM »
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« Reply #9434 on: July 01, 2014, 12:07:25 AM »


But, no, legit watch that shit.

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« Reply #9435 on: July 01, 2014, 01:10:26 AM »
https://tv.yahoo.com/blogs/tv-news/community-season-6-yahoo-204612

Wow. I can't help but think there was a big bidding war, surprised to see Yahoo beat out Netflix.

From what I understand thare was some sort of exclusive rerun deal between Sony/Hulu that Netflix didn't want to deal with.
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« Reply #9436 on: July 01, 2014, 01:19:35 AM »
I'm glad they get a final season. Now this time end the show with a real final episode and stop dicking around with it.


Last season was the best season in years after some mediocre seasons. It would be nice to finish strong.

TVC15

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« Reply #9437 on: July 01, 2014, 12:16:36 PM »
Watched all 4 final episodes of Fargo last night. What a great set of episodes

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I have no idea why Nygard approached Malvo in Vegas in the first place.  I wouldn't go near that fucker ever again
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« Reply #9438 on: July 02, 2014, 01:34:24 AM »
Wow, Wire season 2 is so bad that I didn't even make it an episode and a half into it, now that I've checked.
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« Reply #9439 on: July 02, 2014, 01:43:05 AM »
drunk history is back yay

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« Reply #9440 on: July 02, 2014, 06:06:58 AM »
I'd watch at least up to the third episode of season 2 of The Wire.

Watched all 4 final episodes of Fargo last night. What a great set of episodes

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I have no idea why Nygard approached Malvo in Vegas in the first place.  I wouldn't go near that fucker ever again
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He wanted to show Malvo that he changed from being a scared pawn to a real man. What better way to do that than to force Malvo to scuttle a con he was working on?

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« Reply #9441 on: July 02, 2014, 08:19:18 AM »
Wow, Wire season 2 is so bad that I didn't even make it an episode and a half into it, now that I've checked.

Just set your tv next to your kitchen sink and watch the whole thing the next time you get stuck. 

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« Reply #9442 on: July 03, 2014, 02:58:56 PM »
everybody should watch Penny Dreadful

season 1 was pretty amazing
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« Reply #9443 on: July 03, 2014, 03:04:09 PM »
the new korra season has so far been waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than the first two korra seasons

it feels like TLA

world travel, badass villians, all studio mir
Wait season 3 already?
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« Reply #9444 on: July 03, 2014, 03:08:37 PM »
the new korra season has so far been waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than the first two korra seasons

it feels like TLA

world travel, badass villians, all studio mir
Wait season 3 already?

Season 1 was 2012, so...

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« Reply #9445 on: July 03, 2014, 03:11:19 PM »
goddamn time flies. 

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« Reply #9446 on: July 03, 2014, 04:35:03 PM »
the new korra season has so far been waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than the first two korra seasons

it feels like TLA

world travel, badass villians, all studio mir
Wait season 3 already?

Season 1 was 2012, so...

Yeah but it took like a year to make season 2 and it feels like season 2 just ended.
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« Reply #9447 on: July 04, 2014, 07:20:57 AM »
Rectify Ep3.

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Having Daniel up and about brought all the heavy fucking emotional magnetism back.

But I have to agree with some commenters so far, in that the show is just threatening to explode again like it did in the latter half of S1, but hasn't yet. The show feels, perhaps, intentionally restrained right now. What we need is some real justification for a second season already.
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« Reply #9448 on: July 06, 2014, 09:59:05 PM »
Went back to watching Wilfred and finished off season 3 and started season 4. There's some skippable stuff here and there, but when the show decides to invest in its weird and its dark humor then its great. And when it goes full on with its bizarre psycho dog logic, I love the show.

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« Reply #9449 on: July 06, 2014, 10:19:38 PM »
I stopped watching Vikings because a show about a murdering materialistic viking with nothing else to him wore kind of thin on me after a certain point, but I went back and tried to watch season 2 for reasons unclear to me at the moment.

So far it still has the same problem I described earlier, but they've even managed to cut out the only dynamic I found mildly interesting on top of it. (The conflicts that arise because of Christianization.) Big ups to the Game of Thrones team for the steady stream of ROTIART and maintaining the religious tension throughout the show so as to avoid this problem.

Fuck, even the shittiest story arcs in the Northlanders comic were more interesting than Vikings. Get it together, History Channel.

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« Reply #9450 on: July 06, 2014, 10:53:12 PM »
Vikings is great. It's Shakespearen as balls though. Religion and the mystical in the show is subject to that nature.

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« Reply #9451 on: July 06, 2014, 11:01:08 PM »
how does it compare to stuff like Game of Thrones or Rome?
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« Reply #9452 on: July 06, 2014, 11:03:55 PM »
Halt and Catch Fire is the most frustrating show I've ever allowed myself to suffer through.

SO MUCH POTENTIAL ARGH

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« Reply #9453 on: July 06, 2014, 11:13:02 PM »
Tyrant continues to be amazing
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« Reply #9454 on: July 06, 2014, 11:34:18 PM »
Vikings is comparable to GoT. I often enjoy a Vikings episode more than I enjoy GoT. There's two major differences though.

Game of Thrones has a much larger scope and scale. It's political machinations are like Dune. Vikings, as mentioned, is Shakespearean. It's like MacBeth with Vikings. Political squabbles are often localized, deal with the mystical and have mostly clear outcomes. GoT is plots within plots that have no end.

The other major difference is related to that in that Vikings has a clear protagonist with a journey. while GoT is many characters lost in GRRM;s misery porn. There's winners and losers in Vikings and the hero is wily in an old-world way.

As an extra note, I feel Vikings does better battle scenes. The guy in charge is known for his historical reenactments and it shows.  The show manages to convey how advanced the Viking raiders were in tactics and combat.
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« Reply #9455 on: July 07, 2014, 02:55:56 AM »
Halt and Catch Fire is the most frustrating show I've ever allowed myself to suffer through.

SO MUCH POTENTIAL ARGH
seriously though. just when it seems to hit a stride it squanders its own momentum. this week's ep was pretty blah and tread water bigtime.

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« Reply #9456 on: July 07, 2014, 02:14:08 PM »
Louie Season 3 Episode 2 "Telling Jokes/Set Up"

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Louie agreeing to see her again made it even worse. 
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Kara

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« Reply #9457 on: July 07, 2014, 03:35:37 PM »
Saying Vikings is Shakespearean because Siggy (particularly in how she relates to Rollo) loosely resembles Lady Macbeth is like saying Game of Thrones is Jacobean because it has a bunch of revenge killing. Its characters are far too laconic and emotionally circumspect to reasonably pass for being Shakespearean.

etiolate is completely right about the nuance to the combat depicted in the show, however. Heptarchy forces were fucking scrubs.
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« Reply #9458 on: July 07, 2014, 04:22:17 PM »
Seeing visions, spying on others from behind veils and curtains, treachery every other week, floki

it's more than siggy IMO

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« Reply #9459 on: July 07, 2014, 04:23:58 PM »
Seeing visions, spying on others from behind veils and curtains, treachery every other week, floki

sounds like Game Of Thrones. Well, the books.
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« Reply #9460 on: July 07, 2014, 05:36:02 PM »
Treachery in Vikings is a very slow burn, it's not at all like Game of Thrones where it's kind of a GOTCHA a lot of the time. (idk if it's different in the books.)

For example, some piss-ant jarl's treachery flip flops through the latter course of season 1 into season 2, and drags in a main character to boot.

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« Reply #9461 on: July 07, 2014, 07:00:43 PM »
I tried watching Girl Meets World  :goty2

Why does nostalgia guide me, brehs?

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« Reply #9462 on: July 07, 2014, 07:33:24 PM »
I tried watching Girl Meets World  :goty2

Why does nostalgia guide me, brehs?

the show isn't meant for you breh
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« Reply #9463 on: July 08, 2014, 12:53:01 AM »
best show on tv next to tyrant this summer

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« Reply #9464 on: July 08, 2014, 12:58:19 AM »
the leftovers doesn't seem like a real show.  I think someone is conning hbo.  it's about bagels or something.

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« Reply #9465 on: July 08, 2014, 03:46:04 AM »
so on a scale of 1 to Odingo Superallah Hussein Obama, how badly does Tyrant characterize Muslims

Because AVClub has been fucking slamming the goddamn shit out of the show so I feel like it's pretty bad

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« Reply #9466 on: July 08, 2014, 01:44:25 PM »
Himu is the only person I have seen say the show positively portrays Muslims.
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« Reply #9467 on: July 08, 2014, 03:01:23 PM »
I'll check it out to see if it's that bad.

Will 1 episode be enough you think?

Just reading about it I'm already getting bad vibes with it being on a Fox network and created by Gideon Raff.

e: I started Boardwalk Empire. Not as bad as I was expecting, I'll probably stick through season 1. It reminds me a lot of Showtime's failed show Brotherhood, which I enjoyed sporadically.

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« Reply #9468 on: July 10, 2014, 01:15:31 AM »
The St. Patrick's Day episode in season 1 of Boardwalk Empire. :lawd :tocry :usacry

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« Reply #9469 on: July 10, 2014, 01:36:35 AM »
I'm not seeing how it portrays Muslims badly at all. The fucks who rule the government drink alcohol, smoke cigarettes, and more. This is more common is Islam than you think. The more religious people are fighting for a cause. A violent cause, but a cause worth doing and the show simply gives a glimpse of why they'd fall into that type of scenario.

The one thing that they really fuck up on is the whole American uses western principles to save an Arab nation. The latest episode is comedy in that aspect.
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« Reply #9470 on: July 10, 2014, 01:53:38 AM »
Never mind the fact that Islam isn't even a focal point of the show and the show displays significant diversity in the Muslims portrayed. You've got the political leaders who are Muslim in public and yet smoke and drink in private. You've got the guys who go to the mosque daily and are political journalists, and live life pretty straight. You got the more religious who are amassing weapons to start a revolution against their awful, backwards and myopic government. To say that Tyrant shows Islam in a bad light is false; it's hardly in any light at all.

But of course don't mention this to people who are perfectly okay to turn around and attack Christianity and lump all Christians in the same breath.

From what I've seen of most criticism of Tyrant's portrayal of a middle eastern nation is the usual thing where white people have to go and defend x minority because of y reasons as if it's some make believe world where everyone is perfect. Tyrant is flawed in that the drama is often forced, but let's not pretend that some of the atrocities that take place in the show do not happen in that part of the world.

The main criticisms for Tyrant, I think, are:

- takes place in Middle East and barely anyone in the cast is Arab ???

- local disgruntled native leaves for America, is blinded by western superiority, and comes back home to show everyone how it's done in the "21st century". Which is racist as fuck. Which certainly isn't the shows intention, bit it gets off those vibes. It's like a magic white person trope who brings the light to the indigenous "monsters" except his character is Arab. It's not a goal, but it sometimes feels like that. The good thing is that it shows a polar opposite image of the titular title in Tyrant.

- forced soap opera-Esque drama and characterization. See: the gay son.

Take on the show from the daily beast nails it:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/24/for-muslims-howard-gordon-s-tyrant-is-a-step-in-the-right-direction.html
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« Reply #9471 on: July 10, 2014, 03:42:09 AM »
That first part was enough to really piss me off and never watch the show. That's a complete fucking misfire of casting. It's The Last Samurai levels of badness.

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« Reply #9472 on: July 10, 2014, 04:07:31 AM »
- local disgruntled native leaves for America, is blinded by western superiority, and comes back home to show everyone how it's done in the "21st century". Which is racist as fuck. Which certainly isn't the shows intention, bit it gets off those vibes. It's like a magic white person trope who brings the light to the indigenous "monsters" except his character is Arab. It's not a goal, but it sometimes feels like that. The good thing is that it shows a polar opposite image of the titular title in Tyrant.

I understand why you might see this this way but there's a history of it in the Arab world.

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« Reply #9473 on: July 10, 2014, 04:18:08 AM »
- local disgruntled native leaves for America, is blinded by western superiority, and comes back home to show everyone how it's done in the "21st century". Which is racist as fuck. Which certainly isn't the shows intention, bit it gets off those vibes. It's like a magic white person trope who brings the light to the indigenous "monsters" except his character is Arab. It's not a goal, but it sometimes feels like that. The good thing is that it shows a polar opposite image of the titular title in Tyrant.

I understand why you might see this this way but there's a history of it in the Arab world.
And it isn't just from an exterior perspective, but also lots of it perpetuated by Arabs towards other Arabs. But that's all way too complicated for a show like Tyrant.

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« Reply #9474 on: July 10, 2014, 10:25:17 AM »
- local disgruntled native leaves for America, is blinded by western superiority, and comes back home to show everyone how it's done in the "21st century". Which is racist as fuck. Which certainly isn't the shows intention, bit it gets off those vibes. It's like a magic white person trope who brings the light to the indigenous "monsters" except his character is Arab. It's not a goal, but it sometimes feels like that. The good thing is that it shows a polar opposite image of the titular title in Tyrant.

I understand why you might see this this way but there's a history of it in the Arab world.
And it isn't just from an exterior perspective, but also lots of it perpetuated by Arabs towards other Arabs. But that's all way too complicated for a show like Tyrant.

Well, the characters do argue about what to do, and the legitimacy of western means, so no, it really isn't too complicated for Tyrant.
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« Reply #9475 on: July 10, 2014, 01:26:26 PM »
Just saw the first episode of Extant today.

Holy shit this is some awesome sci-fi shit.
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« Reply #9476 on: July 10, 2014, 04:46:50 PM »
I forgot to mention that I really did not expect Boardwalk Empire to have a more historical / realistic treatment to the existence of Prohibition or social structures of the era. I guess it not only being enjoyed by men should have tipped me off to this but what do I know. :yeshrug

Just as an example, usually in gangster movies the existence of Prohibition has a Monday morning QB "look at these religious noobs thinking they can legislate morality :heh" air to it or even just a "hey this is a convenient conceit for an old timey gangster movie" one, but in Boardwalk Empire it's intertwined with women's suffrage and domestic abuse which is not something I can recall seeing in a Prohibition era piece of pop culture.

Far from perfect, but certainly steps ahead of what I usually see. :bow History as a process.

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« Reply #9477 on: July 11, 2014, 03:20:40 AM »
I didn't think the first episode of Tyrant was that bad. (Besides the casting and cheap use of sexual violence, which were quite bad.)

It's very vanilla in its use of milieu (and mostly uncritical) but like The Americans I don't really think it's a show about its surface subject matter, it's a show about relationships, both familial and marital. (I will say that so far however my impression is that The Americans does actually deal with its surface subject matter in a substantive manner sometimes whereas this show probably never will. There is no history is a process in this show, things just are.)

If the writers do a lot with the thread they wove in the first episode (that abuse begets more abuse) I think it could be something worth a Netflix binge one day. Maybe.

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« Reply #9478 on: July 11, 2014, 03:27:06 AM »
It's not like The Tyrant hasn't been done by Arabs before.
My extended family used to watch a dozen shows just like that when I visited them (sans the GoT-style influence in terms of sex & violence).

It just happens to be produced in the West now.
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« Reply #9479 on: July 11, 2014, 03:34:56 AM »
I didn't think the first episode of Tyrant was that bad. (Besides the casting and cheap use of sexual violence, which were quite bad.)

It's very vanilla in its use of milieu (and mostly uncritical) but like The Americans I don't really think it's a show about its surface subject matter, it's a show about relationships, both familial and marital. (I will say that so far however my impression is that The Americans does actually deal with its surface subject matter in a substantive manner sometimes whereas this show probably never will. There is no history is a process in this show, things just are.)

If the writers do a lot with the thread they wove in the first episode (that abuse begets more abuse) I think it could be something worth a Netflix binge one day. Maybe.

That was one of my main takeaways from Ken Burn's prohibition doc. (and I normally don't look to him for sublety....) I only had a broad pop-understanding of prohibition but it captured things about the lead up to it that I didn't expect.

Obviously prohibition was a failed experiment dontgetmewrongyaddayadda but it wasn't just because of some out of control spinnsters. There were some harsh and valid problems they were doing what they could to address
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