Author Topic: The 2011 Canadian Federal Election Thread of Hidden Agendas (Read 4637 times)

Pringo · « **Reply #120 on:** May 02, 2011, 10:38:56 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 02, 2011, 10:29:47 PM

Quote from: Pringo on May 02, 2011, 10:24:41 PM
It's interesting to see how irrelevant the Liberal party seems to have become in such a short time frame. Not too happy about the possibility of a Conservative majority but whatever. Is there a possibility of a coalition government as long as the NDP and Liberal seats outnumber the Conservatives?

majority government kind of by definition means their seats outnumber the competition combined, so no.

I meant in the case that the Conservatives just barely miss the majority government. Not that it might really matter now...

Boogie · « **Reply #121 on:** May 02, 2011, 10:52:33 PM »

CBC now calling it as a majority.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #122 on:** May 02, 2011, 10:58:25 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on May 02, 2011, 10:35:07 PM

We get CBC HD from Vancouver here in Seattle and I've been watching it, but I have no idea what's going on.

One of the basicly founding parties just got an all time low. The cons which were in as a minority before came back as a majority. The quebec seperatices are mostly wipped out, and our left party the NDP picked up there seats which means for the first time ever they are the offical opposition.

Basicly, quebec voted for a federal party for the first time in a very long time and the libs which was our center party lost a lot of votes to either the more right or the left parties.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #123 on:** May 02, 2011, 11:02:51 PM »

And May got in. I like her.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #124 on:** May 02, 2011, 11:05:52 PM »

Block down to 2, lol

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #125 on:** May 02, 2011, 11:14:14 PM »

Bets on Ignatieff stepping down? He looks so sad.

Boogie · « **Reply #126 on:** May 02, 2011, 11:17:08 PM »

Quote from: TheInfelicitousDandy on May 02, 2011, 11:14:14 PM

Bets on Ignatieff stepping down? He looks so sad.

Guaranteed.

Pringo · « **Reply #127 on:** May 02, 2011, 11:17:47 PM »

Quote from: TheInfelicitousDandy on May 02, 2011, 11:14:14 PM

Bets on Ignatieff stepping down? He looks so sad.

Does he really even have a choice at this point? iirc Dion stepped down pretty quick and he never did this poorly.

Boogie · « **Reply #128 on:** May 02, 2011, 11:28:46 PM »

Quote from: Pringo on May 02, 2011, 11:17:47 PM

Quote from: TheInfelicitousDandy on May 02, 2011, 11:14:14 PM
Bets on Ignatieff stepping down? He looks so sad.

Does he really even have a choice at this point? iirc Dion stepped down pretty quick and he never did this poorly.

That's the inconceivable part to me. That Iggy could do worse than DION....

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #129 on:** May 02, 2011, 11:52:34 PM »

So the Conservatives...how conservative are they? I've heard they aren't comparable to republicans

Boogie · « **Reply #130 on:** May 02, 2011, 11:56:52 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on May 02, 2011, 11:52:34 PM

So the Conservatives...how conservative are they? I've heard they aren't comparable to republicans

well, let's put it this way:

They may have a majority, but they're not going to be dismantling our universal health care.

lordoftherink · « **Reply #131 on:** May 03, 2011, 01:02:01 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on May 02, 2011, 11:52:34 PM

So the Conservatives...how conservative are they? I've heard they aren't comparable to republicans

It might be a bit hyperbolic in parts, but this sums up some of the things the Conservatives have been up to...with a minority government.

Quote from: Boogie on May 02, 2011, 11:28:46 PM

Quote from: Pringo on May 02, 2011, 11:17:47 PM
Quote from: TheInfelicitousDandy on May 02, 2011, 11:14:14 PM
Bets on Ignatieff stepping down? He looks so sad.

Does he really even have a choice at this point? iirc Dion stepped down pretty quick and he never did this poorly.

That's the inconceivable part to me. That Iggy could do worse than DION....

Dion actually won his riding tonight too

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #132 on:** May 03, 2011, 01:12:04 AM »

No NDP in Sask. is a bit shameful.

In the end I think a con majority is a fair price to pay for no bloc and an NDP opposition. Next election should be intresting.

T234 · « **Reply #133 on:** May 03, 2011, 04:09:45 AM »

Quote from: Boogie on May 02, 2011, 10:20:05 PM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on May 02, 2011, 10:18:24 PM
Soo...Harper wins?

If things shake out as they look.....

huge win.

T234 am cry

Oh well. I guess the price of fluffy reefer will stay high, I guess.

*smokes a cigar for my Canadian brothers*

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #134 on:** May 03, 2011, 04:00:04 PM »

How are the two mutually exclusive?

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #135 on:** May 03, 2011, 09:03:53 PM »

Quote from: Armitage on May 03, 2011, 06:03:06 PM

I don't like the conservatives at all but a con majority/NDP opposition seems like a pretty good outcome overall. I hope they keep each other in check.

lol

Boogie · « **Reply #136 on:** May 03, 2011, 09:07:32 PM »

ya, umm, how do you keep a majority government in check?

Mandark · « **Reply #137 on:** May 03, 2011, 10:04:28 PM »

Actually, how does all that work in Canada?

Is it like the UK, where a majority party appoints ministers from the MP's, and policy is generally made through them and affirmed by parliament? Do back-benchers ever cause problems? Are there organized intraparty groups like the Blue Dogs?

Screw it. Just explain all of Canadian political history, plz.

Boogie · « **Reply #138 on:** May 03, 2011, 10:50:34 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on May 03, 2011, 10:04:28 PM

Actually, how does all that work in Canada?

Is it like the UK, where a majority party appoints ministers from the MP's,

Yes.

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and policy is generally made through them and affirmed by parliament?

More-or-less.

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Do back-benchers ever cause problems?

not really, to my memory.

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Are there organized intraparty groups like the Blue Dogs?

Nope. And individual MPs in Canada have far less independence/freedom from the party line than representatives in the States.

Basically, unless it's designated a free vote, MPs have to vote the party line.

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Screw it. Just explain all of Canadian political history, plz.

[youtube=560,345]yi1yhp-_x7A[/youtube]

okay, that doesn't really address your request. I just like the clip.

Mandark · « **Reply #139 on:** May 03, 2011, 11:01:49 PM »

Ah, thank you thank you.

There are ways in which the parliamentary system is so different. My British acquaintances always seem pretty shocked at the lack of party discipline in the US.

"What do a shopping cart and an MP have in common? They're both full of food and drink. What is different about them? The shopping cart has a mind of its own." <-- Also helps to have shopped at Sainsbury's.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #140 on:** May 04, 2011, 01:42:51 AM »

Is that the Canadian Jon Stewart? If so I feel even worse for you Canadians than I normally do

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #141 on:** May 04, 2011, 07:24:41 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on May 02, 2011, 11:52:34 PM

So the Conservatives...how conservative are they? I've heard they aren't comparable to republicans

Here is an idea going by Bush vs Harper
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/columnists/story.html?id=0af97da6-b4bb-4d21-992f-2f9d688ff8f1&p=1

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #142 on:** May 04, 2011, 08:09:30 PM »

Boogie · « **Reply #143 on:** May 10, 2011, 04:54:00 PM »

Update on NDP joke MP Ruth Ellen Brosseau.

She won "her" Quebec riding, in spite of the following (some known before the election, some of which has come out after):

She does not live in her riding. She lives in Ottawa, and her riding is halfway between Montreal and Quebec City.
Nevermind not living in her riding, she has never even stepped foot in it!.
In her riding, 77% of the population speaks only French. Brosseau does not speak French at a conversational level.
In a six week campaign, she took a week's vacation in Las Vegas.
There are allegations that some of the signatures on her nomination application are fraudulent.
Her online biography claims a diploma from St. Lawrence College in Kingston in " Advertising and Integrated Marketing Communications", but the College says she has no such diploma because she did not complete the studies for the program.

Some high-quality MPs you've got here, Jack!

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #144 on:** May 10, 2011, 04:55:45 PM »

Ya it seems like she was just in so that the NDP could make some money and was never expected to win.

Boogie · « **Reply #145 on:** May 10, 2011, 04:59:25 PM »

But she's hot, so whatev!

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #146 on:** May 10, 2011, 05:13:37 PM »

Her nose is weird.

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #147 on:** May 10, 2011, 05:41:25 PM »

Quote from: Boogie on May 10, 2011, 04:54:00 PM

Update on NDP joke MP Ruth Ellen Brosseau.

She won "her" Quebec riding, in spite of the following (some known before the election, some of which has come out after):

She does not live in her riding. She lives in Ottawa, and her riding is halfway between Montreal and Quebec City.
the voters apparently didn't care
Nevermind not living in her riding, she has never even stepped foot in it!.
the voters apparently didn't care
In her riding, 77% of the population speaks only French. Brosseau does not speak French at a conversational level.
the voters apparently didn't care
In a six week campaign, she took a week's vacation in Las Vegas.
the voters apparently didn't care
There are allegations that some of the signatures on her nomination application are fraudulent.
Damned for "allegations", ooooohhhh despite the fact she was cleared
Her online biography claims a diploma from St. Lawrence College in Kingston in " Advertising and Integrated Marketing Communications", but the College says she has no such diploma because she did not complete the studies for the program.
Meh, let's parse the CV's of every MP
Some high-quality MPs you've got here, Jack!

If you can't come up with a better argument for against a working class single mom to be "deemed accecptable" for Parliament than 'VOTERS DIDN'T KNOW HOW WHITE TRASH, LOL", than stfu

Boogie · « **Reply #148 on:** May 10, 2011, 05:49:13 PM »

Quote from: Mamacint on May 10, 2011, 05:41:25 PM

If you can't come up with a better argument for against a working class single mom to be "deemed accecptable" for Parliament than 'VOTERS DIDN'T KNOW HOW WHITE TRASH, LOL", than stfu

I....don't quite think my position is "LOL, WHITE TRASH". Not sure why what I said is an "argument against a working class single mom", either.

I mean, c'mon, it's just an absurd situation. You gotta laugh at it.

For bipartisanship's sake:

lmao, the Cons had an ex-MP who is a drunk-driving cokefiend! Way to pick 'em, Steve!

Better?

Boogie · « **Reply #149 on:** May 10, 2011, 05:59:51 PM »

But let's not fight.

Can we all agree that new Tory MP Chris Alexander is one sexy former UN ambassador?

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #150 on:** May 10, 2011, 06:06:22 PM »

Hey, I didn't know the guy from Fringe was a Tory MP.

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Author Topic: The 2011 Canadian Federal Election Thread of Hidden Agendas (Read 4637 times)