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« Reply #1560 on: December 03, 2012, 10:29:56 AM »
I still think a huge problem for them is that a lot of people have no idea what the fuck it even is. At a glance it looks like a $300 peripheral for the Wii.
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« Reply #1561 on: December 03, 2012, 10:35:49 AM »
Should have been a standalone tablet with a HDMI dongle, yo. Would be flying off shelves.

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« Reply #1562 on: December 03, 2012, 10:42:30 AM »
Well, they do have a perception problem amongst people who don't keep up with this kind of stuff. I've heard variations on "Do you hook it up to the Wii?" quite a bit IRL, the latest from that lady at Gamestop the day after Black Friday.
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« Reply #1563 on: December 03, 2012, 10:46:00 AM »
I still think a huge problem for them is that a lot of people have no idea what the fuck it even is. At a glance it looks like a $300 peripheral for the Wii.

I think the bigger problem is that even if people don't know what it is, they don't want it.  Nothing out there is really compelling that isn't on the 360 or PS3, especially if there isn't a significant upgrade in visuals.  Even in the early 360 days when a lot of early games were PS2+ at best, you could tell that there was a difference in quality to a noticeable degree.  With the Wii U, the visuals are on par or worse.  I guess all that is out there is NSMBU, which I'm sure over the next 4-5 years will accumulate an ungodly total amount of sales but I don't think that is enough to get people to want to buy a Wii U right away for it, considering how it looks close to NSMB Wii.  ZombiU is this generation's Red Steel so it isn't worth acknowledging.

I hope Nintendo is working their asses off making Mario Galaxy quality software for this thing.  I suspect they aren't, thinking that pumping out half assed wares that try to recapture the blue ocean will still net them the kind of sales they received on the Wii and DS heyday.  I can't wait to see what desperate attempt to grab the brass ring they will try but I'm sure we'll find out at the next E3!
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« Reply #1564 on: December 03, 2012, 12:15:30 PM »
since it is the holidays they probably should have offered some more bundles right out of the gate, made some publisher deals to get COD, AssCreed 3, and Zombi U pack-ins
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« Reply #1565 on: December 03, 2012, 12:18:03 PM »
I think the bigger problem is that even if people don't know what it is, they don't want it.  Nothing out there is really compelling that isn't on the 360 or PS3, especially if there isn't a significant upgrade in visuals.  Even in the early 360 days when a lot of early games were PS2+ at best, you could tell that there was a difference in quality to a noticeable degree.  With the Wii U, the visuals are on par or worse.

Nah, that's not "the bigger problem." Specs aren't THE problem it isn't selling. THE problem is that the tablet controller isn't as big of a draw to casuals as motion controls were; or, if it is, it isn't catching on due to a combination of games that demonstrate it well and adequate marketing. Probably both.

Specs are a problem when it comes to third parties, but only really in the future with the next Sony and MS consoles. Right now it's an OK platform to port to, but straight ports will suffer because of the weak CPU (in particular, taking advantage of the DSP to move audio decoding off the CPU is likely something that will be missed by many straight ports, even though it can help out a bit for some genres.)

ZombiU is this generation's Red Steel so it isn't worth acknowledging.

I really thoroughly enjoyed the ZombiU review meltdowns on GAF but taking the game in for what it is (I haven't bought it and don't plan to until it drops in price), it's clearly better than Red Steel. There was literally nothing redeemable about Red Steel, it coasted on the newness of motion controls plus FPS. But the graphics were a letdown even then (Ubi should have been sued for those GI bullshots, seriously), the gunplay was awkward after the novelty wore off, the enemies were bullet sponges, the missions uninteresting, the story generic, etc. etc.

At least there is one thing I can say I like about ZombiU: the whole "if you die you become a zombie then you have to kill yourself to get your stuff back, otherwise you're FUBAR'd" thing. That's a potentially good gameplay idea and wouldn't be out of place in Ye Olde Survival Horrors before they went all macho charismo.

I hope Nintendo is working their asses off making Mario Galaxy quality software for this thing.  I suspect they aren't, thinking that pumping out half assed wares that try to recapture the blue ocean will still net them the kind of sales they received on the Wii and DS heyday. I can't wait to see what desperate attempt to grab the brass ring they will try but I'm sure we'll find out at the next E3!

:lol I wish I could get away with saying this kind of thing about Sony.

"Yeah I'm ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE Sony is going to make absolute shit for Vita and PS4 just because, uh, my gut tells me so. They're totally gonna flop! (Even more so, in the Vita's case.)" :lol

Absurd.

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« Reply #1566 on: December 03, 2012, 12:23:03 PM »
Nintendo has devalueated their brand and IP's.

They used to be the Disney of gaming, their shit was groundbreaking for the last time on the N64. Mario 64 and OOT, Mario Kart 64...

The GCN was already an me too console, they missed out on the whole online thing, games like Mario Kart and F Zero were made for online. This was the first console where their first party efforts became less then groundbreaking, Mario, Zelda, all were good but not OMG (Metroid is an exception?).

With the Wii they really drove their brand into the shovelware territory. Except for Mario Galaxy which I haven't played Nintendo has become synonymous with cheap to make casual games and half assed efforts.

Now with the WiiU out this is going to hurt them bad, I can even see Nintendo fans playing the waiting game now until Nintendo steps up and releases something good.

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« Reply #1567 on: December 03, 2012, 12:26:13 PM »
I've heard good things from the unusual suspects about Kid Icarus and Xenoblade, but I guess they're just casual shovelware.

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« Reply #1568 on: December 03, 2012, 12:33:43 PM »
Don't worry, with the Japan launch they'll be sure to break lifetime sales of the Virtual Boy (770,000)

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« Reply #1569 on: December 03, 2012, 12:49:33 PM »
Should have been a standalone tablet with a HDMI dongle, yo. Would be flying off shelves.

I'm sure this was their long term plan that would converge their console and portable brands, but I doubt the tech is ready unless they were going to have gamecube era graphics.

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« Reply #1570 on: December 03, 2012, 12:56:14 PM »
I can remember when the Wii launched every single family member/friend/casual aquaintance was asking me all about it because I'm the "video game guy".  This time?  About as many people that mentioned the Vita.
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« Reply #1571 on: December 03, 2012, 12:57:56 PM »
WiiU software

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1. Nintendo Land (Nintendo) - 25,709
2. New Super Mario Bros U (Nintendo)
3. Zombi U (Ubisoft)
4. Sonic & All Stars Racing Transformed (Sega)
5. Batman: Arkham City – Armoured Edition (Warner Bros)
6. Call of Duty: Black Ops II (Activision) - 2,000
7. Sports Connection (Ubisoft)
8. Assassin’s Creed III (Ubisoft)
9. Just Dance 4 (Ubisoft)
10. Tekken Tag Tournament 2 (Namco Bandai)
11. Rabbids Land (Ubisoft)
12. Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two (Disney)
13. Tank! Tank! Tank! (Namco Bandai)
14. FIFA 13 (EA)
15. Darksiders II (THQ)
16. Family Party: 30 Games Obstacle Arcade (Namco Bandai)
17. Mass Effect 3 (EA)
18. Ben 10: Omniverse (Namco Bandai)
19. Skylanders Giants (Activision)
20. Game Party Champions (Warner Bros)

Last 5 are in microscopic area
« Last Edit: December 03, 2012, 01:00:35 PM by maxy »
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« Reply #1572 on: December 03, 2012, 01:00:12 PM »
Ahh, Andrex seems to have gone back to stanning for Nintendo a bit more.. good to see, it just didn't feel "right" when he was pissed and complaining about them.

Honestly, WiiU sounds awful in its implementation, but I still prefer Nintendo's first party games waaaaay more than the other 2. I know that the Monolith title will be amazing when it comes out, at the very least. So I will be getting one eventually.
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« Reply #1573 on: December 03, 2012, 01:04:54 PM »
Should have been a standalone tablet with a HDMI dongle, yo. Would be flying off shelves.

I'm sure this was their long term plan that would converge their console and portable brands, but I doubt the tech is ready unless they were going to have gamecube era graphics.

High end ARM chipsets can do some decent graphics, low poly but nice effects and good RAM ensures good textures. But the audience that would buy it wouldn't really care about that; what they would care about is the battery life, which ARM can do really well.

Maybe next gen. I only really see it becoming an option if Nintendo can't sustain both 3DS and Wii U simultaneously, which is looking more realistic as time goes on.

Ahh, Andrex seems to have gone back to stanning for Nintendo a bit more.. good to see, it just didn't feel "right" when he was pissed and complaining about them.

Honestly, WiiU sounds awful in its implementation, but I still prefer Nintendo's first party games waaaaay more than the other 2. I know that the Monolith title will be amazing when it comes out, at the very least. So I will be getting one eventually.

I stand out for being positive here because of, well, this place not really caring much for Nintendo's stuff. But if you see me on GAF I'll probably be ribbing Nintendo fans more than anyone.

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« Reply #1574 on: December 03, 2012, 01:06:40 PM »
My god, there are so much Skylanders Giants shit out there. I even saw an entire endcap of it at my grocery store.


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« Reply #1575 on: December 03, 2012, 01:07:13 PM »
WiiU software

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1. Nintendo Land (Nintendo) - 25,709
2. New Super Mario Bros U (Nintendo)
3. Zombi U (Ubisoft)
4. Sonic & All Stars Racing Transformed (Sega)
5. Batman: Arkham City – Armoured Edition (Warner Bros)
6. Call of Duty: Black Ops II (Activision) - 2,000
7. Sports Connection (Ubisoft)
8. Assassin’s Creed III (Ubisoft)
9. Just Dance 4 (Ubisoft)
10. Tekken Tag Tournament 2 (Namco Bandai)
11. Rabbids Land (Ubisoft)
12. Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two (Disney)
13. Tank! Tank! Tank! (Namco Bandai)
14. FIFA 13 (EA)
15. Darksiders II (THQ)
16. Family Party: 30 Games Obstacle Arcade (Namco Bandai)
17. Mass Effect 3 (EA)
18. Ben 10: Omniverse (Namco Bandai)
19. Skylanders Giants (Activision)
20. Game Party Champions (Warner Bros)

Last 5 are in microscopic area

Tank Tank Tank does not deserve to be that high.

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« Reply #1576 on: December 03, 2012, 01:35:06 PM »
WiiU software

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1. Nintendo Land (Nintendo) - 25,709
2. New Super Mario Bros U (Nintendo)
3. Zombi U (Ubisoft)
4. Sonic & All Stars Racing Transformed (Sega)
5. Batman: Arkham City – Armoured Edition (Warner Bros)
6. Call of Duty: Black Ops II (Activision) - 2,000
7. Sports Connection (Ubisoft)
8. Assassin’s Creed III (Ubisoft)
9. Just Dance 4 (Ubisoft)
10. Tekken Tag Tournament 2 (Namco Bandai)
11. Rabbids Land (Ubisoft)
12. Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two (Disney)
13. Tank! Tank! Tank! (Namco Bandai)
14. FIFA 13 (EA)
15. Darksiders II (THQ)
16. Family Party: 30 Games Obstacle Arcade (Namco Bandai)
17. Mass Effect 3 (EA)
18. Ben 10: Omniverse (Namco Bandai)
19. Skylanders Giants (Activision)
20. Game Party Champions (Warner Bros)

Last 5 are in microscopic area

Tank Tank Tank does not deserve to be that high.

The entire list is tank tank tanking.

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« Reply #1577 on: December 03, 2012, 01:59:37 PM »
and thanks for well wishes and welcome backs, i hope my son will be alright, but we've still got a ways ahead of us even though he's out of the hospital now.

one again good luck man.

Vita had a better launch in the UK than Wii U.  :rofl

This is fucking damning if thats really the case, DAMNING
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« Reply #1578 on: December 03, 2012, 02:13:35 PM »
WiiU software

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1. Nintendo Land (Nintendo) - 25,709
2. New Super Mario Bros U (Nintendo)
3. Zombi U (Ubisoft)
4. Sonic & All Stars Racing Transformed (Sega)
5. Batman: Arkham City – Armoured Edition (Warner Bros)
6. Call of Duty: Black Ops II (Activision) - 2,000
7. Sports Connection (Ubisoft)
8. Assassin’s Creed III (Ubisoft)
9. Just Dance 4 (Ubisoft)
10. Tekken Tag Tournament 2 (Namco Bandai)
11. Rabbids Land (Ubisoft)
12. Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two (Disney)
13. Tank! Tank! Tank! (Namco Bandai)
14. FIFA 13 (EA)
15. Darksiders II (THQ)
16. Family Party: 30 Games Obstacle Arcade (Namco Bandai)
17. Mass Effect 3 (EA)
18. Ben 10: Omniverse (Namco Bandai)
19. Skylanders Giants (Activision)
20. Game Party Champions (Warner Bros)

Last 5 are in microscopic area

Are these UK sales? These sales can't be US sales.

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« Reply #1579 on: December 03, 2012, 02:13:57 PM »
Vita had a better launch in the UK than Wii U.  :rofl

This is fucking damning if thats really the case, DAMNING

It's true. Vita sold more than it in the UK during their respective first weeks despite Vita coming out in February vs. holiday shopping season, and being well, Vita.  :lol

Nintendo said they "sold out" but the people living in the UK are saying that's not the case.

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« Reply #1580 on: December 03, 2012, 02:14:47 PM »
16. Family Party: 30 Games Obstacle Arcade (Namco Bandai)
17. Mass Effect 3 (EA)

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« Reply #1581 on: December 03, 2012, 02:15:35 PM »
Are these UK sales? These sales can't be US sales.

Yeah, those numbers are from the UK launch.
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« Reply #1582 on: December 03, 2012, 02:16:53 PM »
Ahahahahha

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« Reply #1583 on: December 03, 2012, 02:17:27 PM »
WiiU software

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1. Nintendo Land (Nintendo) - 25,709
2. New Super Mario Bros U (Nintendo)
3. Zombi U (Ubisoft)
4. Sonic & All Stars Racing Transformed (Sega)
5. Batman: Arkham City – Armoured Edition (Warner Bros)
6. Call of Duty: Black Ops II (Activision) - 2,000
7. Sports Connection (Ubisoft)
8. Assassin’s Creed III (Ubisoft)
9. Just Dance 4 (Ubisoft)
10. Tekken Tag Tournament 2 (Namco Bandai)
11. Rabbids Land (Ubisoft)
12. Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two (Disney)
13. Tank! Tank! Tank! (Namco Bandai)
14. FIFA 13 (EA)
15. Darksiders II (THQ)
16. Family Party: 30 Games Obstacle Arcade (Namco Bandai)
17. Mass Effect 3 (EA)
18. Ben 10: Omniverse (Namco Bandai)
19. Skylanders Giants (Activision)
20. Game Party Champions (Warner Bros)

Last 5 are in microscopic area

If COD @ 6th place is 2k then what is Ben 10 @ 18th place?

Microscopic sales---someone with GFK data access.

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UK.
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« Reply #1584 on: December 03, 2012, 02:17:46 PM »
basically, across the spectrum it looks like nintendo-system-only gamers aren't really buying the types of games they were crying about not getting during the previous generation
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« Reply #1585 on: December 03, 2012, 02:19:36 PM »
16. Family Party: 30 Games Obstacle Arcade (Namco Bandai)
17. Mass Effect 3 (EA)

You reap what you sow, Ninfans

To be fair, that low down the chart might be a single unit difference.

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« Reply #1586 on: December 03, 2012, 02:20:26 PM »
basically, across the spectrum it looks like nintendo-system-only gamers aren't really buying the types of games they were crying about not getting during the previous generation

I complained about Nintendo systems not getting that kind of third-part support at one time myself, but you know what I did to rectify that problem? I bought the system that had all those games I wanted.
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« Reply #1587 on: December 03, 2012, 02:24:19 PM »
Well, you play games, not message boards. Looks like a lot of Nintendo fans just wanted those games as bullet points for forum debates, not to actually buy and play.
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« Reply #1588 on: December 03, 2012, 02:27:36 PM »
basically, across the spectrum it looks like nintendo-system-only gamers aren't really buying the types of games they were crying about not getting during the previous generation

I complained about Nintendo systems not getting that kind of third-part support at one time myself, but you know what I did to rectify that problem? I bought the system that had all those games I wanted.

But Miyamoto-sama will be angry with me if I do that.
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« Reply #1589 on: December 03, 2012, 02:42:27 PM »
Well, you play games, not message boards. Looks like a lot of Nintendo fans just wanted those games as bullet points for forum debates, not to actually buy and play.

Depressingly true, unfortunately. It's not about playing the games and having fun, it's about scoring another point for your "team."
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« Reply #1590 on: December 03, 2012, 02:53:49 PM »
The official Wii U theme song:



Best post on page.
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« Reply #1591 on: December 03, 2012, 03:21:16 PM »
You dropped a bomb on me, Shiggy.
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« Reply #1592 on: December 03, 2012, 03:22:29 PM »
I am amazed that Tank Tank Tank outsold ANYTHING  :lol

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« Reply #1593 on: December 03, 2012, 03:24:54 PM »
When they came out dancing once I saw his post and clicked the embed, I fucking lost it. I've never seen the music video but the song is a classic.
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« Reply #1594 on: December 03, 2012, 03:57:10 PM »

Specs are a problem when it comes to third parties, but only really in the future with the next Sony and MS consoles.

I disagree,specs are a problem right now.This gen has lasted way too long and releasing something  comparable to current systems = suicide.
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« Reply #1595 on: December 03, 2012, 04:01:56 PM »
The hardcore base wants more power and the Wii U definitely does not fit that bill. Meaning that they don't feel any great need to by this system, regardless of how many poorly-optimised ports of Xbox360 and PS3 games it gets.
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« Reply #1596 on: December 03, 2012, 04:25:15 PM »
Nintendo never wanted to go after core gamers with the WiiU with those specs, they just say they do to trick ninthings on the fence into being ambassadors.

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« Reply #1597 on: December 03, 2012, 04:47:11 PM »
Specs don't matter to the casuals, but I'm not sure they really care about Nintendo's "tablet" either. A system with good specs had a chance of actually getting back some of the "core" or dudebro gamers that the x360 has a monopoly of.

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« Reply #1598 on: December 03, 2012, 04:52:05 PM »
I am amazed that Tank Tank Tank outsold ANYTHING  :lol

WiiU exclusive, brah.
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« Reply #1599 on: December 03, 2012, 05:26:42 PM »
You know what would be funny? If nintendo finally announced some games at e3 but then ended up being completely overshadowed by sony and ms next gen stuff.

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« Reply #1600 on: December 03, 2012, 05:58:50 PM »

Specs are a problem when it comes to third parties, but only really in the future with the next Sony and MS consoles.

I disagree,specs are a problem right now.This gen has lasted way too long and releasing something  comparable to current systems = suicide.

Worked for Wii, which was my point. Specs aren't THE problem.

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« Reply #1601 on: December 03, 2012, 05:59:18 PM »
Specs don't matter to the casuals, but I'm not sure they really care about Nintendo's "tablet" either. A system with good specs had a chance of actually getting back some of the "core" or dudebro gamers that the x360 has a monopoly of.

Very unlikely.

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« Reply #1602 on: December 03, 2012, 06:51:34 PM »
So why did Nintendo even bother with x360 level specs? Why not literally just do Wii graphics but in HD? Clearly specs mean something.

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« Reply #1603 on: December 03, 2012, 07:18:48 PM »
Because if they did that the thing would crater in Japan as no one would want to buy a home console 3DS in 2012.

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« Reply #1604 on: December 03, 2012, 08:14:34 PM »
So specs do matter.
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« Reply #1605 on: December 03, 2012, 09:43:20 PM »
I'm a longtime multiplatform owner and Nintendo lover who got burned by the Wii and is skipping the Wii U. I have every Nintendo console currently hooked up in my house with the exception of the Virtual Boy.

I used to not mind buying half assed Nintendo hardware when it was dirt cheap and who cares, but I feel like the Wii U is such a bad value I cannot support it with my dollars.

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« Reply #1606 on: December 03, 2012, 10:03:34 PM »
Wii U is the first system I haven't bought at launch since like PS1 era.  That might just be because I'm older and games are less important to me, but I think it's actually because the Wii was quite an awful system outside a handful of games and I don't even keep one in my house anymore (all lent out to families that might use them).

Now I may eventually have to get one for Bayo 2.  But maybe by then there will be some good deals to pick it up and any other good games its had for cheap.

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« Reply #1607 on: December 03, 2012, 10:05:43 PM »
I'd get one for $199 just for Mario. But even then I'd have to buy fucking motion plus controllers to really play it.

I used to buy every Nintendo thing just for Zelda, but SS kinda sucked and all the handheld ones have too for a long time. And Metroid and Fzero are dead.... fuck Pikmin... Sooo

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« Reply #1608 on: December 03, 2012, 10:26:11 PM »
Who the fuck is the WiiU for? 

The small number of Nintendo fans who didn't buy a PS3/360.
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Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
« Reply #1609 on: December 03, 2012, 10:38:18 PM »
this is why i wanna kick all the nerds in the ass who claim that sales are flagging because the generation has gone on too long. people arent holding on to wads of cash saying "well, i could just wait a little longer for the next big thing..." they're going out right now and buying the shit out of 360s and ps3s because they have shitloads of great games that people have played/heard about, and theyre finally at a price level that most people can afford (both the system and used games). people with money to blow want to spend it on new phones and tablets, not a $400+ system that offers an interface with some new upgrades and games that cost no less than $60. a new system that offers a new, more convenient take on interconnectivity (as opposed to the weeoo's fishcer-price attempt) will succeed; a marginal upgrade to what we have now will bomb.
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Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
« Reply #1610 on: December 03, 2012, 11:15:52 PM »
i heard nintendo can do anything with a firmware update
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Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
« Reply #1611 on: December 03, 2012, 11:17:48 PM »
yeah all the parts have just been underclocked

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Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
« Reply #1612 on: December 03, 2012, 11:20:50 PM »
It doesn't even get hot enough for the exhaust vents to dry your tears :(
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Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
« Reply #1613 on: December 03, 2012, 11:35:44 PM »
2) people are sufficiently satisfied gaming on their smartphones/tablets and are not as interested in a game box anymore.

It's a combination this, because "people" not "gamers" are who lapped up the Wii last time, and that smartphones/tables offer better value gaming for them. Gamers will still pay a premium for a perceived premium product. Regular people have seen Angry Birds for 99c and can't see why they should spend $30 on a handheld game or $60 on a console game. There's no stopping this contracting, people have moved on from home consoles/handhelds.

It doesn't even get hot enough for the exhaust vents to dry your tears :(

:rofl I can imagine this being said on a cruncheons ep
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Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
« Reply #1614 on: December 03, 2012, 11:36:03 PM »
The Vita was pretty easy to forecast ahead of time as a flop especially in this country. That sort of device is completely out of step with American culture.

As far as the Wii U I still think it will do decently with families and young kids but it's clear the device is forever the product of the 6 to 14 year old market in America. It just doesn't look like Nintendo will be able to gimmick their way to another Wii level fad this go around.

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Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
« Reply #1615 on: December 03, 2012, 11:37:34 PM »
At least the next real consoles will have multimedia functionality to give people a reason to buy it. Nintendo doesn't have shit. Not even virtual console for retro novelty

It doesn't even get hot enough for the exhaust vents to dry your tears :(

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Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
« Reply #1616 on: December 04, 2012, 12:33:50 AM »
They have TVii

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Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
« Reply #1617 on: December 04, 2012, 01:13:23 AM »
They should fire every single person involved in Wii U's conception, release, and marketing and hire back whoever the hell did this (cause it sure as hell isn't whoever's currently there):



THIS is how you get people excited for a console with only like, two announced games, no specs, no online talk. This is how you make waves. Not whatever the hell this is:


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Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
« Reply #1618 on: December 04, 2012, 01:29:00 AM »
If they call the PS4 anything other than the PS4 in western countries it's going to be just as fucked as the Vita.  The PS brand is still pretty strong even if it's lost a lot of ground to Xbox.  People will buy a PS4 and get excited for it.  They're going to go "Wtf is an Orbis" if something like that is the name.  If they're seriously worried about the 4 = shi thing in Japan (which is pretty stupid since there are plenty of major franchises in Japan that go to 4; plus they can market it around "PLAYSTATION FO" in the ads) then change the name just for that region.

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Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
« Reply #1619 on: December 04, 2012, 05:54:36 AM »
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I've spent the last year talking to publishers and developers off the record. They've been waiting for Durango in particular. There are things they want to do that they haven't been able to pull off, and many feel that the shrinkage in the market is due to hardware stagnation. The big guys and popular developers that haven't already gone iOS are hitching their wagons to Durango in a big, big way. Which terrifies them, by the way. They are not in any way sure that it's going to turn things around, business wise.

I'm not saying the next Playstation isn't part of the equation, but they've seemed much less clear as to what it will even be. Granted, I haven't talked to everyone, obviously.

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