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[Himu]

How do you suggest they fix it then? Clearly the combat is a bigger problem than dungeon layout.

[Great Rumbler]

How do you suggest they fix it then? Clearly the combat is a bigger problem than dungeon layout.

The combat is a bit problem, yes, but it would also be less of a problem if the act of dungeoneering itself were a bit more interesting. And it wouldn't be THAT hard to spice things up in the randomized dungeons:

-More variety of rooms [larger, more complex, varying elevations, ect.]
-Traps
-Unique aspects [items, monsters, types of rooms]
-In-dungeon sidequests [pretty much everything in Dark Cloud was just "find key, find exit"]
-Random encounters with NPCs in dungeons

There's a lot of stuff they could do other than just plopping down a few square rooms and adding in some monsters.

Or just throw in some sweet loot and call it a day.

[Himu]

Yes, but from your language you made it seem like the problem was that they were random. Of course they could do a lot to expand upon the dungeons, but the idea of them being random wasn't why they were bad.

[Don Flamenco]

cloud-based H ME

or this is their DRM trick.  Each "retail disc" is actually a unique code that unlocks the ability to play PS4 games, which are safely stored on the other side of the cloud, so nobody can sell or pirate them.

and every time you want to access it, you have to boot up H ME and wait in line for the game.

[Great Rumbler]

Yes, but from your language you made it seem like the problem was that they were random. Of course they could do a lot to expand upon the dungeons, but the idea of them being random wasn't why they were bad.

You'll note that I used the word "nasty" as a descriptor in my original post. Lern2reading, please.

[Himu]

Well, your post could be read in two ways:

1. Those are random dungeons which are nasty and are not nasty BECAUSE they're random, but because they're shit

or

2. they're nasty BECAUSE they're random.

A lot of people have issues with random dungeons. So which am I more likely to think?

[Great Rumbler]

Either way, Dark Cloud has dungeons that aren't much fun and there's no awesome combat to offset that. Well, they probably won't make another anyway, since the head guy is off making adult fantasy RPGs [White Knight Chronicles] and puzzle games for kids [Layton series].

I think you two lameos should stop around now.

shut up

[Himu]

Dark Souls isn't a game where you collect loot to build towns and synthesize items either. That's a really weird comparison.

[Great Rumbler]

dangit

[Himu]

Oh, you meant Dark Cloud! Well! Game owns despite the flaws.

BRING ALL THE FLAWS.

[maxy]

I think you two lameos should stop around now.

Yeah,what has this to do with sales?

Open Dark Cloud/Souls thread,you lamers

[Himu]

It's a side talk about how Sony is less willing to spend on projects like Dark Cloud series unlike the past, so in a way it is tied to sales.

[Great Rumbler]

Dark Cloud 2 seems to have sold a decent amount and Level-5 certainly isn't above continuing to make more kid-friendly titles, so it's a bit weird that they haven't come back to the franchise again. Is it actually owned by Sony?

[maxy]

UK

The Top 20 Games of 2012:

1. Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Activision
2. FIFA 13 - Electronic Arts
3. Assassin's Creed III - Ubisoft
4. Halo 4 - Microsoft
5. Hitman Absolution - Square Enix
6. Just Dance 4 - Ubisoft
7. Far Cry 3 - Ubisoft
8. FIFA 12 - Electronic Arts
9. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - Bethesda
10. Borderlands 2 - 2K Games
11. Mass Effect 3 - Electronic Arts
12. LEGO Batman 2: DC Super Heroes - Warner Bros
13. Need for Speed: Most Wanted - Electronic Arts
14. FIFA Street - Electronic Arts
15. Mario & Sonic: London 2012 Olympic Games
16. Skylanders Giants - Activision
17. Battlefield 3 - Electronic Arts
18. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - Activision
19. Max Payne 3 - Rockstar
20. Sleeping Dogs - Square Enix

[MyNameIsMethodis]

I wish theyd put Dark Cloud 2 on PSN

[Stoney Mason]

UK

The Top 20 Games of 2012:

1. Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Activision
2. FIFA 13 - Electronic Arts
3. Assassin's Creed III - Ubisoft
4. Halo 4 - Microsoft
5. Hitman Absolution - Square Enix
6. Just Dance 4 - Ubisoft
7. Far Cry 3 - Ubisoft
8. FIFA 12 - Electronic Arts
9. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - Bethesda
10. Borderlands 2 - 2K Games
11. Mass Effect 3 - Electronic Arts
12. LEGO Batman 2: DC Super Heroes - Warner Bros
13. Need for Speed: Most Wanted - Electronic Arts
14. FIFA Street - Electronic Arts
15. Mario & Sonic: London 2012 Olympic Games
16. Skylanders Giants - Activision
17. Battlefield 3 - Electronic Arts
18. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - Activision
19. Max Payne 3 - Rockstar
20. Sleeping Dogs - Square Enix

Surprising but good that far cry 3 sold that well.

[maxy]

Harker in WiiU sales below expectations thread

sales are below expectations

[maxy]

thx again

Is Uncharted best selling Vita game?

[maxy]

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[AdmiralViscen]

I'd still buy one if I didn't have to spend another $100 on a memory card

[Don Flamenco]

good lord.  how is that even possible?   Hasn't the system cracked a million in the U.S.?   

[Purple Filth]

titanic.gif

didn't even need that pesky iceburg.

[lunchwithyuzo]

Yeah, it is.  Nothing else is even close.  It's double the 2nd best seller.  Vita's only got four games over 100k in NA.

UMV3, Unit 13 & Restistance?

How many 3DS games are over 100k? :3

[MyNameIsMethodis]

Do not answer him oscar cuz he used that stupid fucking emote

[Shaka Khan]

Yeah, it is.  Nothing else is even close.  It's double the 2nd best seller.  Vita's only got four games over 100k in NA.

Rinse, repeat...

Edit: Oscar, please don't answer Yuzo. He's not a bro who earned the right to know these tidbits. I can already see him regurgitating this info in a petty argument elsewhere to serve some childish agenda.

[Don Flamenco]

that's a great combination of emotes

[lunchwithyuzo]

3:

[Shaka Khan]

[Himu]

3:

[Cerveza mas fina]

I really didnt know oscar was an insider sales guru

If so, dont answer yuzo.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

Thank you for the hint about Rocksmith tho and Harmonix inevitable foreclosure

[Cerveza mas fina]

@ yuzo trying his luck.

[Father_Brain]

Yeah, it is.  Nothing else is even close.  It's double the 2nd best seller.  Vita's only got four games over 100k in NA.

That doesn't include bundled software, though, does it?

[lunchwithyuzo]

I'm broad enough with numbers I give here that my source is at little risk.  I'm not an Ask Zoltan machine, though.  I give my hints when and to whom I feel like.

Yuzo, my gut tells me you will use the info for evil purposes, so you get nothing today, sorry.

You're right, I totally would.  But I know there's over 25 at least, so I will anyway.

[Don Flamenco]

leper yuzo

[MyNameIsMethodis]

seriously

[Father_Brain]

It does, but the bundled software you're thinking of is very close to 100k and likely passed it in December.

Neither of Vita's saviors broke 100K across all SKUs in November? Wow.

[Steve Contra]

titanic.gif

didn't even need that pesky iceburg.

Yeah, they just built the thing at the bottom of the sea so they wouldn't have to bother trying.

[Third]

VGchartzzz has WiiU at 2.21mln sold WW.

LMAO, does that mean dec NPD is going to be over 1mln WiiU's sold?

[Eel O'Brian]

the only remarkable thing is that wiiU stuff is selling even worse.

everyone's waiting for their system updates to finish first so they can load up at the eshop, march 2013 1000% increase in sales

[Mpl90]

VGchartzzz has WiiU at 2.21mln sold WW.

LMAO, does that mean dec NPD is going to be over 1mln WiiU's sold?

No, it just means they're clueless as always.

[Mpl90]

i would hope nobody was under the mistaken impression that vita (or 3ds outside japan) software is selling anywhere near acceptable numbers.

the only remarkable thing is that wiiU stuff is selling even worse.

Wait. Outside of Nintendo titles, I remember titles like Sonic, Skylanders, Tales of and Lego titles doing decent / well. At least in US. creamsugar posted both Vita and 3DS US top 20 up to June and 3DS showed generally not so bad software sales, with just Resident Evil: Revelations shining as the biggest flop by far.

And in the Vita list, Marvel v.s. Capcom shined as a game that didn't do as bad as everyone expected ( over 100k)

Here's both the list

01. Uncharted: Golden Abyss
200k
02. Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3
100k
03. Unit 13
04. MLB: The Show 12
05. Modnation Racers: Road Trip
06. FIFA Soccer
07. WipEout 2048
08. Mortal Kombat
09. Rayman Origins
10. Hot Shots Golf
50k
11. Resistance: Burning Skies
12. Ninja Gaiden Sigma Plus
40k
13. Gravity Rush
14. Little Deviants
15. Dungeon Hunter: Alliance
30k
16. Metal Gear Solid HD
17. Lumines: Electronic Symphony
18. Dynasty Warriors Next
19. Ridge Racer
20k
20. Touch My Katamari

01. SM 3D Land
2m
02. MK7
1.5m
03. Zelda
1m
400k
04. Pokemon
05. SF64 3D
06. SSF4 3D
300k
07. KI:U
08. Lego SW3
09. PR
250k
10. Sonic
11. Spyro
200k
12. Olympic
13. Dog cat bulldog
14. Dog cat retriever
15. Dog cat toy
16. Lego PotC
150k
17. RE:R
18. Asphalt 3D
19. Rayman 3D
20. SMB 3D
130k

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

So basically people are just buying Mario 3D Land, Mario Kart 7, and Zelda, and nothing else?

[pilonv1]

I don't think people have bought Zelda since launch.

[Joe Molotov]

So basically people are just buying Mario 3D Land, Mario Kart 7, and Zelda, and nothing else?

3DS has Mario 3D Land, Mario Kart 7, Zelda, and nothing else. Vita just has the nothing else.

[Third]

This week will have two media create charts and NPD. And of course the PAL charts tomorrow.

I wonder if WiiU has surpassed its november number in NPD...

[AdmiralViscen]

How did Theatrhythm do?

[Third]

Is that one ever coming to Android?

[maxy]

http://www.famitsu.com/news/201301/07026912.html

3DS    266790
PSP   　34145
Vita   　18022
Wii   　   8094
Wii U    76760
PS3      54107
360   　  2283

Also PS2 production has stopped wordwide
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/jan/04/playstation-2-manufacture-ends-years

Iwata interview

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/07/us-nintendo-console-sales-idUSBRE90605420130107

The company, which grew from making playing cards in the late 19th century into the blockbuster Super Mario video game series, is pinning its hopes on the Wii U after posting a first operating loss last year, as gamers ditch console games to play on smartphones and tablets.

"At the end of the Christmas season, it wasn't as though stores in the U.S. had no Wii U left in stock, as it was when Wii was first sold in that popular boom. But sales are not bad, and I feel it's selling steadily," Nintendo President Satoru Iwata said in an interview.

Iwata gave no details on sales or forecasts, but said Nintendo needed to focus on developing attractive software for its 3DS handheld device to draw new users, and increase Wii U sales as it battles competition from popular mobile devices. The Wii U carries video content from Netflix Inc and Hulu, and has a dedicated social gaming network called Miiverse, which allows users to interact and share games tips.

Iwata acknowledged the challenge of producing two Wii U models at the same time, as most customers wanted the premium package, which sold out quickly in many places, while there was a glut of the slightly cheaper Wii U model on store shelves.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Everything is a fucking challenge to Nintendo it seems

[maxy]

Dealing with EA is also very tough

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a448410/crysis-3-not-coming-to-wii-u-due-to-lack-of-business-drive.html

Crysis 3 won't receive a Wii U version, it has been confirmed.

Despite being a "possibility" last year, CEO and founder of Crytek Cevat Yerli said "there is no Wii U version" due to a lack of "business drive" between publisher EA and Nintendo.

"There has been discussions between Nintendo and EA and Crytek, but the bottom line is that there is that there's not enough business drive in it," he told Digital Spy.

"It's a purely business decision. I'd love to see it on Wii U, but what I love to see and what gets done at the end of the day are two different things. Even so, I could initiate it but someone has to sell it, right?"

[DCharlieJP]

The WiiU is sold out everywhere in Tokyo*




* except in all the stores in built up areas across the city - same as from the first week

[pilonv1]

Dealing with EA is also very tough

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a448410/crysis-3-not-coming-to-wii-u-due-to-lack-of-business-drive.html

Crysis 3 won't receive a Wii U version, it has been confirmed.

Despite being a "possibility" last year, CEO and founder of Crytek Cevat Yerli said "there is no Wii U version" due to a lack of "business drive" between publisher EA and Nintendo.

"There has been discussions between Nintendo and EA and Crytek, but the bottom line is that there is that there's not enough business drive in it," he told Digital Spy.

"It's a purely business decision. I'd love to see it on Wii U, but what I love to see and what gets done at the end of the day are two different things. Even so, I could initiate it but someone has to sell it, right?"

lazy everyone

[maxy]

UK charts
http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110032

As expected,nothing has changed,no WiiU in top 40.Maybe it will pop up in few weeks(when market goes back to disaster status).

[Shaka Khan]

Goddamn 3DS is never coming down. Basically the JP numbers are offsetting all the low to modest numbers it's generating everywhere else. Which works out great since it saves them the trouble of worrying about exchange rates.

[maxy]

gaf cp,famitsu news

                      2012          YOY        USD
SOFTWARE   ¥271.21 billion (-1.3%) $3.106 billion
HARDWARE   ¥177.98 billion (-1.0%) $2.040 billion

TOTAL      ¥449.19 billion (-1.1%) $5.144 billion

Physical retail sales only.
2012 had 53 weeks, 2011, 52.

                                                                             2012      /   TOTAL      PUBLISHER       RELEASE DATE

 1 [NDS] Pokémon Black 2 / White 2                     2,879,027   / 2,879,027    Pokemon Co.      2012-06-23
 2 [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf                     2,286,977   / 2,286,977    Nintendo         2012-11-08
 3 [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2                       1,780,493   / 1,780,493    Nintendo         2012-07-28
 4 [3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters:TW3D               899,410   /   899,410    Square Enix      2012-05-31
 5 [PS3] One Piece: Pirate Warriors                      825,860   /   825,860    Bandai Namco     2012-03-01
 6 [3DS] Mario Kart 7                                    822,542   / 1,904,933    Nintendo         2011-12-01
 7 [PS3] Resident Evil 6                                 821,053   /   821,053    Capcom           2012-10-04
 8 [3DS] Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate                       776,171   / 1,585,493    Capcom           2011-12-10
 9 [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land                             738,109   / 1,780,620    Nintendo         2011-11-03
10 [WII] Dragon Quest X Online                           633,827   /   633,827    Square Enix      2012-08-02

                  2012  /          TOTAL

3DS          5,626,763  /       9,762,502
PS3          1,327,185  /       8,744,333
PSP            941,992  /      19,179,100
Vita           674,365  /       1,077,159
Wii U          638,339  /         638,339
Wii            492,999  /      12,660,742
Xbox 360        67,273  /       1,588,011
DS              28,627  /      32,863,798

[Don Flamenco]

RE6 sold 821k there?  crazy.  I'm surprised Japan has stuck with the series instead of getting turned off by its change in focus.

[Shaka Khan]

If I'm not mistaken it enjoyed a great debut but then dropped like a rock, even Capcom said something about it.

[Tasty]

YoY is down but that's better than I was bracing for, guess Japan isn't doing so bad. And yeah, at least part of Nintendo's financial department is probably thrilled they're not getting gangraped by exchange rates for the time being.

One Piece game being on there is pretty surprising me, I've only recently realized how big that series has become in Japan but I wasn't expecting a licensed game to make top 10. But a rising franchise tide lifts all media boats, as they say.

[Cerveza mas fina]

In a week or two PS3 might overtake WiiU again in Japan it seems. Well played Nintendo.