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[AdmiralViscen]

If the only MGS I've played is 2, and I didn't like it too much after the boat, should I try MGS3 on 3DS?

[Beezy]

And make sure to get Subsistence.

[bork]

Thanks Oscar!

[Steve Contra]

Christ those Wii U sales.  I remember people were saying it was going to settle into 40k a week (which is bad enough) before anything came out.  It took one week to hit 20k, I suspect Vita numbers until NDAs are liftedand Sega announce Shenmue WIIIU

[Don Flamenco]

If the only MGS I've played is 2, and I didn't like it too much after the boat, should I try MGS3 on 3DS?

wow, i forgot it even came out on the 3DS.   

how bad is that port? 

i agree about playing it on the HD collection.

[bork]

I wasn't a fan of MGS2 either and never did get too far after the Tanker chapter.

I loved MGS3.  Would recommend that you play it on the HD Collection (on PS3, 360, and Vita) and not on 3DS.  The 3DS port has some major framerate issues from what I've read.  It's too bad because I like the added Peacewalker control stuff.

When I really look at it, I pretty much just like MGS1 and MGS3.  Never finished any of the others, barely played MGS2 and MGS4.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

the framerate is so so so so so bad on MGS3ds. its embarrasing. But yeah being able to crouch walk was a nice addition.

[maxy]

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100389482

Sony said it has agreed to sell its U.S.headquarters building in New York City for $1.1 billion to a consortium led by real estate developer The Chetrit Group.

After repayment of debt related to the building and other transaction costs, Sony said it is expected to receive net cash proceeds of about $770 million. A gain on the sale of about $685 million would be recorded as operating income, it added.

[MCD]

Nokia also did the same thing in Finland but at least they are getting back bit by bit now.

[Cerveza mas fina]

You're 100% right Oscar but they do own more property i assume. So its not as despo as selling your last asset.

Sure times is super bad for them but they obviously still have space to manouver (making some assets liquid) and turn things around if they reorganize.

[Momo]

Nokia also did the same thing in Finland but at least they are getting back bit by bit now.

Last I checked Nokia was still in bad shape

[MCD]

Nokia also did the same thing in Finland but at least they are getting back bit by bit now.

Last I checked Nokia was still in bad shape

http://www.wpcentral.com/nokia-rising-stock-breaks-through-4-share-upon-news-strong-demand
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/01/10/is-nokia-back-lumia-sales_n_2446779.html

Not groundbreaking but a little better than their gloomy days.

[maxy]

Some France numbers,credit goes to gaf

Via LSA: http://www.lsa-conso.fr/premier-bila...-france,137328
Numbers by P. Lavoué from Nintendo France.

Wii U 2012 : 120k / 38M€
Wii 2006 : 180k

Basic pack: 10%; ZombiU pack: 15%; Premium: 75%.


3DS 2012 : almost 950k
ps3 2012 : 700k
Wii 2012 : 372k
Xbox360 2012 : 360k

Nintendo PR,prior to launch
http://www.gamekult.com/actu/wii-u-240-000-consoles-pour-la-france-A104998.html
240K shipped between launch day and end of december

Basic

[Phoenix Dark]

Wii U  ITS OVER.

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Just saw the numbers, wow. I figured people were being hyperbolic when they predicted the PS3 might sell more soon, ouch.

Seems like Nintendo will need to do better than just telling people Smash Brothers will be out some day. There's literally no WiiU games on the horizon that justify purchasing one

[maxy]

jvm article

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/185024/Breaking_down_Wii_Us_postlaunch_software_lull.php#.UPpNtx26b0c

I spoke with Liam Callahan, an analyst with the NPD Group, and he was kind enough to pull the data for the Wii U and the previous six consoles that launched in the U.S.

In the figures below, I'm only considering the first four calendar months that a system was out. So, except for the PlayStation 2, which launched in October 2000, all of these windows run from November of one year through February of the following year.

release order

[Himu]

Hahahah my friend left Sony Music for Capitol Records at the right time! Bless her.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Huh so Sony sold its US HQ as well.

Uh oh

They must need money baaaaad to sell two buildings.

They can stay in the building for 3 more years. Make or break time i guess for them.

[maxy]

Stolen from gaf

Just took this photo at a Walmart, asked an employee and was told that the games were getting recalled to other stores that sell Vita games at a higher rate. Meaning only select locations will carry the games now.

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[Tasty]

That is insane.

[benjipwns]

We have to remember that this is just what one guy was supposedly told by an employee. You could just as easily find anecdotes about places where the Vita and most games have sold out. And it's also just after the holiday season so they're probably figuring out what to restock.

And also keep in mind that Wal-Mart isn't really the type of store where something like the Vita would sell a lot. There's a lot of competition from places like GameStop and Best Buy and Target, not to mention Amazon, the PSN store and others. And Wal-Mart seems like the least likely place someone would go to buy a high end consumer-focused product like the Vita or look for games. (Especially since few people would even bother with going to the store when you can buy online.)

I think once Killzone and Soul Sacrifice and those other big titles come out along with more advertising to show this is a product that's a step above a rehash like the 3DS (that's also bombing compared to the DS mind you) that Wal-Mart will rush to get the product back on the shelves. Don't forget that Wal-Mart strong arms a lot of suppliers and Sony might have held firm knowing that they have a quality product that retailers will eventually be begging for once the consumers get properly informed and the economy recovers a bit.

[Damian79]

Since when is killzone a system seller?  Soul sacrifice yes, killzone no.

[maxy]

Not sure what was Sony thinking when they targeted this device towards console owners.

I guess old habits die hard...

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

The Walmart that I shop at on occasion got rid of their Vita wares months ago to make room for the Wii U.

Definitely depressing and if the largest retailer in the country is slowly dropping the product, that is one of the final nails in the coffin.  I thought about making a list of Vita games I want and just buying them.  I could see a lot of Vita games just kind of disappear and command ridiculous retail amounts.  Games like Virtua Tennis 4, Disgaya 3, Metal Gear Solid HD, etc.

A shame because it was a great system but these are clearly the twilight months of its life.

[maxy]

http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110032

Capcom end FIFA 13’s run at the top as ‘DMC’ (Devil May Cry) debuts at No1.

It may be a quiet time of year, but it still represents Capcom’s first All Formats No1 since ‘Resident Evil 5’ back in week 13 2009 (Resident Evil 6 could only manage No2). Released on Tuesday and developed by Cambridge indie developer Ninja Theory (the first time a Devil May Cry title has been developed outside of Capcom), DMC sells over a third of what ‘Devil May Cry 4’ did at launch when it also reached No1, back in week 6 2008.
‘FIFA 13’ (-40%) drops to No2 ahead of ‘Call of Duty: Black Ops II’ (-26%), while ‘Far Cry 3’ (-49%) falls 2 places to No4. There is no change at No5 and No6 with ‘Need for Speed Most Wanted’ (-35%) and ‘Just Dance 4’ (-18%) both non-movers. ‘Football Manager 2013’ (-16%) is up one place to No7, while sales of ‘Hitman Absolution’ (-50%) are cut in half, knocking it from No4 to No8. The Top 10 is rounded off by ‘Skyrim’ (-20%) at No9 and ‘Assassin’s Creed III’ (-21%) at No10. DMC is the only new release to chart this week.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Do we have any numbers on highest selling Wii U game?

[maxy]

No.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Sub 1k you think? Making WiiU sales sub 1k?

[maxy]

Dunno,but the bottom is certainly very low.Maybe that zombi dude gives some hints.

[maxy]

Wiki link for the lazy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Wii_video_games

Find US and Japan LTD and make a list

[maxy]

Sub 1k you think? Making WiiU sales sub 1k?

 

Mpl90 calculation

TOP 10 NINTENDO Wii U, WEEK ENDING 19 January 2013
1    1    NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. U
2    2    NINTENDO LAND   
3    3    ZOMBI U
4    4    SONIC & ALL STARS RACING TRANSFORMED
6    5    CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS II <330
10    6    ASSASSIN'S CREED III
5    7    NINJA GAIDEN 3: RAZOR'S EDGE   
8    8    BATMAN: ARKHAM CITY - ARMOURED EDITION
9    9    SPORTS CONNECTION
-    10    TEKKEN TAG TOURNAMENT 2

Tekken sold around 160 copies last week.

Before you start jumping around ,I will say this.
Whatever has hit 3DS,Vita,WiiU will hit next gen consoles equally hard.The only question is will they break or bend...

[Cerveza mas fina]

Who cares about these games coming out now, I know I'm not going to buy anything big untill next gen and  my friends have stopped buying games a year or two ago already (casuals) except maybe a FIFA.

I bet most casual dudebro's are the same. 8 years is too long, the industry did this to themselves.

[Positive Touch]

yeah i'm sure everyone's just got a couple hundred stashed away so they can run right out and pick up the new console as soon as its released


if ms wants a good business strategy to help against low demand maybe they should start hitting up bill & melinda to spend some of that humanitarian money lobbying for fixing income equality

[Cerveza mas fina]

You don't got 1k reserved for launch?

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Going to be very tough to get consumers on board to spend hundreds of dollars on an entertainment device that doesn't start with an "i".

E3 is going to be full of lulz as Microsoft and Sony try to appeal to different types of consumers when they unveil various features for their new hardware.  Some of these ideas are going to fall flat on their asses, much to our amusement.  I can't wait!

[Cerveza mas fina]

I didnt even think about next gen bombing. Maybe I have to stick to my PC

[archnemesis]

People are still going to want to play games from their couch with minimal effort. The audience will shift to next-gen when the popular games make the transition. One or two of the new systems could still bomb, but at least one will be moderately successful.

[Himu]

Going to be very tough to get consumers on board to spend hundreds of dollars on an entertainment device that doesn't start with an "i".

E3 is going to be full of lulz as Microsoft and Sony try to appeal to different types of consumers when they unveil various features for their new hardware.  Some of these ideas are going to fall flat on their asses, much to our amusement.  I can't wait!

.

[ToxicAdam]

Consoles aren't going to bomb. They are still going to move 150-180 million units in the next 6-7 years. Maybe more if one of them can ride a trend. 

What they might lose in gamers (to mobile), they will gain in people that like their set-top capabilities.

 

[Tasty]

Set Top boxes are and have always been the deserted dregs of home media, stretching all the way back to the early 2000s. Everyone and their mother has tried their hand at it including Apple but consumers just don't give a damn. I doubt set top capabilities are enough to "save" any console.

[AdmiralViscen]

Hopefully Microsoft's plan B to "save" its console isn't to launch with Arkham City and Mass Effect 3

[Cerveza mas fina]

Set Top boxes are and have always been the deserted dregs of home media, stretching all the way back to the early 2000s. Everyone and their mother has tried their hand at it including Apple but consumers just don't give a damn. I doubt set top capabilities are enough to "save" any console.

The CD-I is from 2000 

[Huff]

Or a new netflix machine.

Whoever has the best Netflix interface gets my dollars

[Tasty]

Set Top boxes are and have always been the deserted dregs of home media, stretching all the way back to the early 2000s. Everyone and their mother has tried their hand at it including Apple but consumers just don't give a damn. I doubt set top capabilities are enough to "save" any console.

The CD-I is from 2000 

Your point

[bork]

I believe his point is that the CD-I didn't come out in 2000...it was released in 1991.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

They shove Netflix, Hulu, etc. onto everything these days.  My TV has more streaming services than my Wii U.  Being a set top box doesn't amount to much these days.

They're going to have to find a new hook to bring people in and it isn't "going social."  Everyone and their dog has some type of social function these days.  It's going to have to be something novel and something that people actually want to play.  It isn't the economy, iPads, iPhones, iPods, etc. sell dozens of millions each year despite going for 2-3 times what a 360 goes for.  It's a large uphill battle and any of these consoles can fall flat on their asses.  The Wii U is fucking tanking right now with sub Gamecube level software sales.  Even though its Nintendo lol there still has to be a lot of executives nervous as hell as they reach the final months.  I hope that they got some good shit in store for us.

[Tasty]

I believe his point is that the CD-I didn't come out in 2000...it was released in 1991.

...and...?

[Cerveza mas fina]

I believe his point is that the CD-I didn't come out in 2000...it was released in 1991.

...and...?

And you said companies where trying to sell setup boxes since the early 2000's, so you're off BY A DECADE.

That said you were born in the 90's so I guess it's only fair you don't know what went down.

Then again it's funny when you make these broad statements about how the industry works, but then actually don't know the history. Puts your statements into the right perspective.

[archie4208]

01./00. [PS3] DmC: Devil May Cry <ACT> (Capcom) {2013.01.17} (¥6.990) - 110.429 / NEW

Apparently that's less than half of what DMC4 did back in 2008.

[Joe Molotov]

:devilcry

[archnemesis]

That's actually a bit surprising to me. I didn't think their average customer would pay close attention to who developed the game.

[Don Flamenco]

I guess "modernizing" Devil May Cry is not what the market wanted.  Now lets see some shit numbers in the U.S. and hopefully the next time I hear about DmC, it's for Devil May Cry 5, made in-house by Capcom.

[archie4208]

DmC's bombing probably means Capcom gives it the Mega Man treatment.

[Don Flamenco]

I'd take that too...


but they might also just let NT make another because the first game was critically acclaimed.   

[HyperZoneWasAwesome]

I doubt, seriously, that a DMC 5 would have sold better or substantially more then the latest installment.
kinda like how RE6 is an actual improvement over part 5 but sold worse.  Just like how GTA5 will kick ass but not as much as IV did, or as Halo 4 didn't light em' up quite as much as Halo 3, same with Hitman Absolution and doubly so with Medal of Honor.

save Borderlands 2 and Battlefield 3, I can't really think of any recent franchise title that has sold better then its predecessor, and I would imagine that part of this is brand fatigue and part of this is the industry contraction.

[Purple Filth]

Maybe.  DMC's a much more lucrative brand than Mega ever was, though.  They might be able to pull a New Coke/ Coca Cola Classic out of this if they're smart.

Its Capcom so chances are low tbh.

[Steve Contra]

You need to remember DMC4 left a sour taste in a lot of people's mouths.  DMC5 wasn't a slam dunk no matter you look at it.

[AdmiralViscen]

Didn't Halo 4 outperform Halo 3 and Reach?

[Rahxephon91]

I doubt, seriously, that a DMC 5 would have sold better or substantially more then the latest installment.
kinda like how RE6 is an actual improvement over part 5 but sold worse.  Just like how GTA5 will kick ass but not as much as IV did, or as Halo 4 didn't light em' up quite as much as Halo 3, same with Hitman Absolution and doubly so with Medal of Honor.

save Borderlands 2 and Battlefield 3, I can't really think of any recent franchise title that has sold better then its predecessor, and I would imagine that part of this is brand fatigue and part of this is the industry contraction.

Kind of faulty logic with the RE6 comparison. Since RE6's slow down is sales has to do with it's bad world of mouth. If RE6 was meet with a very positive reception the game would have been bigger.

[Bebpo]

Welp, DMC is dead.  Time for an Onimusha reboot!

[Fifstar]

I thought Darksiders 2 kinda bombed? Did it sell better than the first title but did bad in comparison to develoment costs?