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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Ichirou on July 04, 2007, 10:25:59 PM

Title: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: Ichirou on July 04, 2007, 10:25:59 PM
Jesus, I've just been looking at some preview clips of this stuff in motion and...who the hell designed these things?  The designs are way too busy and clunky.  They look...OKAY...in still pictures, but once the things start moving, especially during action sequences, it 's really hard to tell which part is which.  I'm not saying they should keep the designs from the animation (I realize the studio feels those designs are not "realistic" enough plus they wouldn't be able to sell quite as many new toys) but they could have tried to keep things a BIT more simple and elegant.  Maybe they could have recruited some Japanese mechanical designers, guys with years of experience in the world of giant robots and giant robot toys...

I mean, if they want big, badass looking mecha, they need look no further than the designs of Katoki Hajime:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0e/FA-010A_FAZZ.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0d/MSA-0011_S_Gundam.jpeg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/91/MSA-0011-Bst-_S_Gundam_Booster.jpeg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fc/MSZ-006C1-Bst-_%CE%96_Plus_%22Humming_Bird%22.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/38/MSZ-006A1_%CE%96_Plus_A1.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5e/Ptx-014-3.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ed/Rtx-011.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c1/R-1.jpg)

I would've preferred to have seen something like this than what we're seeing in the movie. But then again, I am a japafag. :/
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: BlueTsunami on July 04, 2007, 10:33:06 PM
This movie was awesome. Willco'rnball vindicated

Initiate Hate Sequence: y/n?

Y!

And oh god the lead girl in this movie....oh...oh god

Transformations > You

But if they made a Gundam movie with the same visual fidelity of Transformers...I would die happy. Come the FUCK on Japanese movie industry!
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: Cheebs on July 04, 2007, 10:35:50 PM
Movie was awesome.

The best parts were the stuff with Shia (wtf I know). The robot history nonsense and pure robot action got a bit boring. I ADORED the banter with shia and his parents. I never seen a movie with this kid before, consider myself impressed with this guys acting.
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: BlueTsunami on July 04, 2007, 10:37:42 PM
Quote from: Cheebs on July 04, 2007, 10:35:50 PM
Movie was awesome.

The best parts were the stuff with Shia (wtf I know). The robot history nonsense and pure robot action got a bit boring. I ADORED the banter with shia and his parents.

I really didn't expect the humor to be that good. Shia's timing was great. The bedroom scene was hilarious, also the Bumblebee scene with Shia and Megan Fox (when Shia wanted to give her a ride) was absolutely hilarious
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: Ichirou on July 04, 2007, 10:38:14 PM
Doesn't come out here until next month...MAN, I want to see it, but I hate the mecha designs with a passion.  They look so damn sloppy.

I hope this is successful enough that BT's dream comes true and they make a live-action Gundam movie.
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: BlueTsunami on July 04, 2007, 10:40:51 PM
I do agree with the designs.

The Gundam designs (or Japanese mecha in general) have a very very sleek stylized look, very badass with over the top weaponry. Where American robots (or just the Transformers) are more boxed and crude.
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: FatalT on July 04, 2007, 10:42:49 PM
Japafaggotry or not, I love Gundam. The Gundam Wing movie was the first DVD I ever owned. I also love everything about mechs that look like Gundams. A live-action Gundam movie would kick ass!
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: demi on July 04, 2007, 10:43:40 PM
japtard has preference to japanese things, news at 11
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: Ichirou on July 04, 2007, 10:49:23 PM
Quote from: demi on July 04, 2007, 10:43:40 PM
japtard has preference to japanese things, news at 11

I want to drink chocolate milk from your nipples, dude.  :-[

Also, Gundams look fucking AWESOME.  Even when the stories are shit, the basic mechanical design of the Gundam is great and I would love to see that in live-action.
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: FatalT on July 04, 2007, 11:01:21 PM
Quote from: demi on July 04, 2007, 10:43:40 PM
japtard has preference to japanese things, news at 11

Go cuddle with Nick Frost, meanie.
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: Eduardo24 on July 04, 2007, 11:03:02 PM
Quote from: BlueTsunami on July 04, 2007, 10:40:51 PM
The Gundam designs (or Japanese mecha in general) have a very very sleek stylized look, very badass with over the top weaponry. Where American robots (or just the Transformers) are more boxed and crude.

They look boxed because they are 20 years old.  And as far as I know, the Transformers were designed by a japanese company, even though the first animated show was an american production.
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: FatalT on July 04, 2007, 11:04:15 PM
Quote from: Eduardo24 on July 04, 2007, 11:03:02 PM
They look boxed because they are 20 years old.  And as far as I know, the Transformers were designed by a japanese company, even though the first animated show was an american production.

The truth comes out.
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: Ichirou on July 04, 2007, 11:04:46 PM
The Transformers were all originally Japanese toys before they were bought by Hasbro for the show, this is true.

But I'm talking about the new (shitty) designs for the movie.
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: BlueTsunami on July 04, 2007, 11:09:03 PM
I didn't like Megatrons design at all. He looked like a jumbled up piece of Aluminum foil

Oh no! Sharp edges! MEGAAATROOONNN
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: Eduardo24 on July 04, 2007, 11:14:33 PM
They donīt look that bad.  Gundam-like designs would have looked goofy, they still looked boxed for a live action film, even though they look awesome on anime/manga.

Btw I want fucking Star Saber for the sequel.  Of the original G1 animes he is my favorite one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVdzTx_TZ94 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVdzTx_TZ94)

Why didnīt the americans get this series anyway?  We got them here in latinoland.
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: Ichirou on July 04, 2007, 11:17:05 PM
Quote from: Eduardo24 on July 04, 2007, 11:14:33 PM
They donīt look that bad.  Gundam-like designs would have looked goofy, they still looked boxed for a live action film, even though they look awesome on anime/manga.

WRONG.

 :maf :maf :maf
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: Eduardo24 on July 04, 2007, 11:18:23 PM
I am right and you know that.  Accept it :maf :maf :maf :maf
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: Ichirou on July 04, 2007, 11:27:44 PM
Quote from: Eduardo24 on July 04, 2007, 11:18:23 PM
I am wrong and I know that.  Accept it :maf :maf :maf :maf

I accept it.  :-*
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: Eduardo24 on July 04, 2007, 11:39:50 PM
Ha ha. I actually agree with you.  Trapped! Owned, pwnzuoord etc, ect.
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: Ichirou on July 04, 2007, 11:40:55 PM
Quote from: Eduardo24 on July 04, 2007, 11:39:50 PM
Oh no, I was just Trapped! Owned, pwnzuoord etc, ect.


Yes.
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: Eduardo24 on July 04, 2007, 11:49:17 PM
Why are you saying yes to everything I say?  I feel so stupid now :(

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Really :(.  Donīt that again :(
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Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: Ichirou on July 04, 2007, 11:51:06 PM
HUAHUAHUAHUAHUA

 :tbslol :tbslol :tbslol
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: Beezy on July 04, 2007, 11:52:21 PM
Eww no.
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: Ichirou on July 04, 2007, 11:52:58 PM
Quote from: Beezy on July 04, 2007, 11:52:21 PM
Eww no.

GUNDAAAAAAAAAAM
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: Beezy on July 04, 2007, 11:54:02 PM
Quiet, fleshling.
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: Ichirou on July 04, 2007, 11:55:03 PM
Quote from: Beezy on July 04, 2007, 11:54:02 PM
Quiet, fleshling.

Check the look into the future thread in about ten minutes.  :maf

EDIT: Or, like, now.
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: Boogie on July 05, 2007, 02:14:06 AM
As an original hater of the movie designs, they totally won me over in the movie itself.  They looked great.
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: Vizzys on July 05, 2007, 02:41:19 AM
Quote from: FatalT on July 04, 2007, 10:42:49 PM
The Gundam Wing movie

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: bagofeyes on July 05, 2007, 03:02:50 AM
This thread smells of japafags who prolly didnt even drink on australia day
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: Fresh Prince on July 05, 2007, 03:09:48 AM
Quote from: bagofeyes on July 05, 2007, 03:02:50 AM
This thread smells of japafags who prolly didnt even drink on australia day
I think you and I are the only Australians here.



Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on July 05, 2007, 03:36:45 AM
Transformers was pretty damn entertaining.
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: Ichirou on July 05, 2007, 03:58:50 AM
Quote from: Willco on July 05, 2007, 03:36:45 AM
Transformers was pretty damn entertaining.

Doesn't change the fact that the mechanical designs were trash.
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on July 05, 2007, 04:05:14 AM
I really dug the designs actually - I hate that boxy animu trash.  The only gripe I had is that in certain scenes it was hard to differentiate between Decepticons, save for Megatron.  Like, the Autobots all had designs that felt invidiual, but not the Decepticons (again, save for Megatron).
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: Ichirou on July 05, 2007, 04:09:56 AM
Quote from: Willco on July 05, 2007, 04:05:14 AM
I really dug the designs actually - I hate that boxy animu trash.  The only gripe I had is that in certain scenes it was hard to differentiate between Decepticons, save for Megatron.  Like, the Autobots all had designs that felt invidiual, but not the Decepticons (again, save for Megatron).

Yeah.  All the designs I posted here are better than any design in Turdformers.
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: jiji on July 05, 2007, 05:24:29 AM
Hate the designs. HATE. They were a busy mess in the original publicity renders, and they're even worse in motion. Can't see a damn thing that's going on, and can't focus on any one detail other than the eyes. Maybe the head. There's no flow or sense of proportion in the designs. It's just DETAIL DETAIL DETAIL OH GOD WE'VE GOT TO ADD MORE DETAIL.

The one cool design/animation sequence I noticed was when the Pave Low helicopter Decepticon (I don't remember the name) turned into a robot, and the rotor blades folded up and rested behind its back like a cape. That was cool. And the tail rotor as a weapon on one hand made sense, too.
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: Beezy on July 05, 2007, 07:14:01 AM
Starscream was fucking badass.
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: Cheebs on July 05, 2007, 08:14:44 AM
I agree with willco, japafaggy robot designs are shit. Anyone over the age of 5 who finds Gundam cool deserves to be shot
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: Tauntaun on July 05, 2007, 10:02:34 AM
all I gots to say is that this movie made me leave the theater PUMPED! ready to pop boners and cut off heads.  :hyper :hump
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: BlueTsunami on July 05, 2007, 02:28:17 PM
Quote from: Beezy on July 05, 2007, 07:14:01 AM
Starscream was fucking badass.

He was. I loved how he was perched up on that building and
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tore Jazz in two
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Starscream was fucken HUGE
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: BlueTsunami on July 05, 2007, 03:24:49 PM
Quote from: Spencer on July 05, 2007, 03:22:43 PM
Quote from: BlueTsunami on July 05, 2007, 02:28:17 PM
Quote from: Beezy on July 05, 2007, 07:14:01 AM
Starscream was fucking badass.

He was. I loved how he was perched up on that building and
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tore Jazz in two
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Starscream was fucken HUGE

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I'm fairly sure it was Megatron who tore him in half.
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Was that Megatron? No wonder then :lol. I thought the size he was there was disproportionate. I stand corrected then!
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Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: Beezy on July 05, 2007, 08:11:47 PM
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I thought that was Starscream who killed Jazz too. :lol

Anyway, he was still badass. He owned Bumblebee and those jets.
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Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: Ichirou on July 05, 2007, 08:58:30 PM
LOL at the people saying Gundam designs suck and praising TF designs and then Cheebs and BT not even being able to recognize which Decepticon fought which Autobot.   :lol
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: Cheebs on July 05, 2007, 08:59:13 PM
Quote from: Ichirou on July 05, 2007, 08:58:30 PM
LOL at the people saying Gundam designs suck and praising TF designs and then Cheebs and BT not even being able to recognize which Decepticon fought which Autobot.   :lol
All those fucking robots looked alike except the yellow one and optimus
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: Ichirou on July 05, 2007, 09:01:07 PM
Autobots are watching over you, Cheebs.

And the designs I posted are all fucking awesome.  If you don't think that, then you are a gay homosexual who enjoys sucking on uncircumcised penises and drinking the ejaculate.
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 05, 2007, 09:03:04 PM
cheebs is a disgusting turdmuncher and i hope he dies of aids.
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: Eduardo24 on July 06, 2007, 04:01:57 PM
Optimus would have looked like crap with the original design.

(http://3dblasphemy.com/OPTIMUS/OPTIMUS_HR.jpg)
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on July 06, 2007, 04:09:03 PM
They did a great job on Optimus, Bumblebee, Bonecrusher and Megatron, but the rest needed more time in the design room.
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: Mr. Gundam on July 06, 2007, 04:25:39 PM
I thought Jazz looked fine.
Title: Re: The Transformers movie mech designs are awful.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on July 06, 2007, 04:33:29 PM
Yeah, Jazz was the most animated-like of all the Autobots.