The elite was a fucking stupid move why did they do basically the same thing. Ugh. What is this gen and multiple sku's? Its absurd.
it is easier than elite but that $599 stigma that has haunted them in the press still is there which alone is problematic. But yes, far easier than elite but still:The elite was a fucking stupid move why did they do basically the same thing. Ugh. What is this gen and multiple sku's? Its absurd.
Companies like making as much money as possible? I have no fucking clue.
At least the only difference between the $500 and $600 PS3 systems is hard drive space. Might be a little easier for the average consumer to figure out.
I haven't read anything that would suggest that the 60GB model is going away. Sony better not pull that shit.They did with the 500 unit first time around! And the fact they made their price drop seem insignificant this time gives me no faith they wont just push away the new 500 pack soon.
Sounds about right. Maybe they'll throw in some more slots for memory cards I DON'T USE AND DON'T NEED as well.
So distinguished mentally-challengedIt is all the more amazing that Sony knew basically every damn time what the consumer wanted for 10 years straight, they made almost every single right move from PSX to PS2. Yet now are unable to bring in the simple news of "price drop" without messing it up.
Its as if they figured a 20GB increase in harddisk space is what the consumers wanted. Also, wow, Motorstorm included? Hurrr, might as well sell that model for $499 with no game included. distinguished mentally-challenged fellow logic, I can't believe they (Sony) are going to sink the Playstation brand in one swoop.
what's Sony's motivation? not making itself look bad by looking like it's really dropping prices,Uh..dropping prices ISN'T a bad thing. Price drops = boosts in sales, its always win win. When PS2 had it's first price drop people didn't react like "things must be going wrong. ABANDON SHIP!"
it's a smart move, and no the 60GB SKU isn't going to be discontinued
the software side emulation thing being introduced with the 80GB packs makes things far more cloudy about this issue than they should be.it's a smart move, and no the 60GB SKU isn't going to be discontinued
Someone needs to grill Sony about this at E3.
Which is my hunch. The software side emulation being introduced to USA via 80GB confirms this in my mind for now.
But as distrantmantra stated, it sounds like Sony are trying to clear out the 60GB units.
so lemme get this straight
the 60 gb is being discontinued, and the price drop is only to move it off shelves
the NEW and primary ps3 sku is the 80 gigger with LOLZ MOTORSTORM, which is $599 and has only 20 extra gigs BUT has no hardware back compat??
WHAT THE FUCK
SONY AM distinguished mentally-challenged fellow
Nobody that played the first Killzone honestly gives a fuck about the sequel. Sony is dead in the water at this point worldwide and Microsoft is going to capitalize with a big price cut soon.Yet look at the SDF at gaf. All of them have Killzone avatars. :lol
uncharted will definitely turn out good. i'm pumped for it and white knight story, as well.
Nobody that played the first Killzone honestly gives a fuck about the sequel. Sony is dead in the water at this point worldwide and Microsoft is going to capitalize with a big price cut soon.
Nobody that played the first Killzone honestly gives a fuck about the sequel. Sony is dead in the water at this point worldwide and Microsoft is going to capitalize with a big price cut soon.
And that weren't even that many people that played the first Killzone. Pretty much anyone who is going to buy Killzone 2 is a GAF member.
Worldwide is the key word. Basically anything with decent press could sell over a million worldwide on PS2 with its installed base.Nobody that played the first Killzone honestly gives a fuck about the sequel. Sony is dead in the water at this point worldwide and Microsoft is going to capitalize with a big price cut soon.
And that weren't even that many people that played the first Killzone. Pretty much anyone who is going to buy Killzone 2 is a GAF member.
I'm not defending Killzone, but didn't it sell one or two million copies worldwide?
re, uncharted: yeah, but i don't expect the ps3 to better -- or even regularly equal -- the visuals powered by the superior 360. uncharted is still a next-gen game with a great theme and ideas behind it.
Jason Rubin is gone from ND right? He was such an attention whore. He called himself the Steven Spielberg of video games before lol.
Be careful with getting a PS3 with hardware based BC. Who knows how Sony will handle Software Emulation with all PS3s across the board. Meaning, they may just give you Software Emulation even if you have a PS3 thats capable of Hardware BC.
*Be careful as in, don't think you'll have the 99.8% or whatever percentage BC compatability just because you have a PS3 with Hardware BC
Be careful with getting a PS3 with hardware based BC. Who knows how Sony will handle Software Emulation with all PS3s across the board. Meaning, they may just give you Software Emulation even if you have a PS3 thats capable of Hardware BC.
*Be careful as in, don't think you'll have the 99.8% or whatever percentage BC compatability just because you have a PS3 with Hardware BC
What? Why not?
Be careful with getting a PS3 with hardware based BC. Who knows how Sony will handle Software Emulation with all PS3s across the board. Meaning, they may just give you Software Emulation even if you have a PS3 thats capable of Hardware BC.
*Be careful as in, don't think you'll have the 99.8% or whatever percentage BC compatability just because you have a PS3 with Hardware BC
What? Why not?
I'm not sure if they'll keep the Hardare BC. Software BC is something Sony wants to impliment on all PS3s over time (with the bad theres also good, like Smoothing and faster loading). I could see Sony making Hardware BC nullified via an update in place for Software Emulation (even on PS3s with Hardware BC).
Worldwide is the key word. Basically anything with decent press could sell over a million worldwide on PS2 with its installed base.Nobody that played the first Killzone honestly gives a fuck about the sequel. Sony is dead in the water at this point worldwide and Microsoft is going to capitalize with a big price cut soon.
And that weren't even that many people that played the first Killzone. Pretty much anyone who is going to buy Killzone 2 is a GAF member.
I'm not defending Killzone, but didn't it sell one or two million copies worldwide?
So distinguished mentally-challengedIt is all the more amazing that Sony knew basically every damn time what the consumer wanted for 10 years straight, they made almost every single right move from PSX to PS2. Yet now are unable to bring in the simple news of "price drop" without messing it up.
Its as if they figured a 20GB increase in harddisk space is what the consumers wanted. Also, wow, Motorstorm included? Hurrr, might as well sell that model for $499 with no game included. distinguished mentally-challenged fellow logic, I can't believe they (Sony) are going to sink the Playstation brand in one swoop.
Jason Rubin is gone from ND right? He was such an attention whore. He called himself the Steven Spielberg of video games before lol.
599!? (...), why bring another more expensive sku, compared to the 499 one, to the market??? it sure did wonders for the 360 lol.
399 or bust
So distinguished mentally-challengedIt is all the more amazing that Sony knew basically every damn time what the consumer wanted for 10 years straight, they made almost every single right move from PSX to PS2. Yet now are unable to bring in the simple news of "price drop" without messing it up.
Its as if they figured a 20GB increase in harddisk space is what the consumers wanted. Also, wow, Motorstorm included? Hurrr, might as well sell that model for $499 with no game included. distinguished mentally-challenged fellow logic, I can't believe they (Sony) are going to sink the Playstation brand in one swoop.
Im not sure if Sony always knew what the consumer wanted, in my opinion they just got really lucky with the Playstation brand. How else would a company that doesnt give a shit about gaming and never will climb to the top of the console pile, totally shitting all over actual gaming comapanies that produced actual fun games: Nintendo and Sega? The Playsation was a fluke, and spawned enough fanboys to make sure the PS2 was a hit also.
how the fuck did PS2 kill Dreamcast? When the PS2 came out its library was nothing but fecal matter on CDs and would stay that way for several years afterwards, DC already had an awesome library cranking with tons of hot quality shit, then everyone bought PS2s. Its about time Sony just fucked off as they have never known what they are doing and now they are taking it in the shorts just like they deserve.
PS2 was disappointing for like 6 months. By the end of its first year (in the US) it was fucking amazing.End of 2001 which would be this fall for PS3 was AMAZING for PS2. GTA 3, MGS 2, FFX, ICO, Jak and Daxter, & Devil May Cry.
their 1st party line-up is something like: lair, warhawk, heavenly sword, uncharted, r & c, gt prologue.I thought lair was a summer game? 360's and Wii's (shockingly) first party lineups are pretty solid for the fall (stolen from IGN):
their 1st party titles are pretty interesting imo and who knows, maybe mgs4 will come out this year too. i guess we'll have to a couple of days more to see if it's really delayed or not.
Halo 3, Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Alan Wake, Mass Effect
Yeah, lots of people are gonna shrug it off when they see it.so it is banjo? lol
PS2 was disappointing for like 6 months. By the end of its first year (in the US) it was fucking amazing.End of 2001 which would be this fall for PS3 was AMAZING for PS2. GTA 3, MGS 2, FFX, ICO, Jak and Daxter, & Devil May Cry.
PS3 doesn't have a metal gear, final fantasy, team ico game, nor an exclusive GTA and DMC (out in 2008 anyway) for it's second fall.
PS3's big exclusives this fall are: Uncharted, Ratchet & Clank, Hot Shots Golf 5, Folklore, and Heavenly Sword. How does that ALL compare to PS2's lineup of the same fall?
Lego Indiana Jones Trilogy (you know its fucking coming after the lego licence got annouced) will out-Uncharted Uncharted.
And it will be on PS2. :bowspoiler (click to show/hide):shh[close]
PS2 was disappointing for like 6 months. By the end of its first year (in the US) it was fucking amazing.End of 2001 which would be this fall for PS3 was AMAZING for PS2. GTA 3, MGS 2, FFX, ICO, Jak and Daxter, & Devil May Cry
yay, retailers have finally dropped the 60 GB PS3's price everywhere, it's now 499$ and 549$ CDN
seriously, everyone should just jump on this offer... it's worth it for the PSOne and PS2 upscaling functions and Blu-Ray alone, and then there's all that crazy next-gen goodness on top of that... the system is quiet too, and since update 1.80 colors through HDMI can be set to look CRAZY good, way better than on 360... that should convince people to get PS3 multiplatform ports
PS2 was disappointing for like 6 months. By the end of its first year (in the US) it was fucking amazing.End of 2001 which would be this fall for PS3 was AMAZING for PS2. GTA 3, MGS 2, FFX, ICO, Jak and Daxter, & Devil May Cry
Silent Hill 2
uh, wtf are you even talking about? I've played dozens and dozens of hours of PS2 gaming on a PS3, and with the right parameters the difference is incredibly significant... you don't have a clue of what you're talking about
PSOne games look good even on 1080p with the smoothening option!
yay, retailers have finally dropped the 60 GB PS3's price everywhere, it's now 499$ and 549$ CDN
seriously, everyone should just jump on this offer... it's worth it for the PSOne and PS2 upscaling functions and Blu-Ray alone, and then there's all that crazy next-gen goodness on top of that... the system is quiet too, and since update 1.80 colors through HDMI can be set to look CRAZY good, way better than on 360... that should convince people to get PS3 multiplatform ports
yay, retailers have finally dropped the 60 GB PS3's price everywhere, it's now 499$ and 549$ CDN
seriously, everyone should just jump on this offer... it's worth it for the PSOne and PS2 upscaling functions and Blu-Ray alone, and then there's all that crazy next-gen goodness on top of that... the system is quiet too, and since update 1.80 colors through HDMI can be set to look CRAZY good, way better than on 360... that should convince people to get PS3 multiplatform ports
lol... no.
look what this announcement has done, the PS3 is now the #1 videogame item on Amazon.com
http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=sv_vg_1/002-9149961-7259247
i'm glad i bought a 20gb back in the day.... notebook hdd's are getting so much cheaper that i could probably upgrade mine to a 200gb for less than $100 in a few months when i need it.
20 extra gb is not enough to warrant spending $100 for the 80gb. dumb.
uh, wtf are you even talking about? I've played dozens and dozens of hours of PS2 gaming on a PS3, and with the right parameters the difference is incredibly significant... you don't have a clue of what you're talking about
PSOne games look good even on 1080p with the smoothening option!
yay, retailers have finally dropped the 60 GB PS3's price everywhere, it's now 499$ and 549$ CDN
seriously, everyone should just jump on this offer... it's worth it for the PSOne and PS2 upscaling functions and Blu-Ray alone, and then there's all that crazy next-gen goodness on top of that... the system is quiet too, and since update 1.80 colors through HDMI can be set to look CRAZY good, way better than on 360... that should convince people to get PS3 multiplatform ports