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Title: Transformers was great fun
Post by: Himu on July 10, 2007, 01:36:31 AM: I really wanna love the movie, but I only end up liking it. It's got a lot going for it, I mean, it's the fucking Transformers for God's sake but...there are two key things null my enjoyment of it (if only by a bit I guess?):

1. Too long.

2. It's not even about the fucking Transformers. They play the back seat and serve only as a comedic device. I don't care about you and miss Mary Jane Rottencrotch, Shia. I don't care about those goddamn soldiers who kept popping in and out. I don't care about Anthony Anderson, why is that distinguished black fellow in this movie? I want my Optimus Prime, Megatron, and co. actually serving as characters and actually having..you know, development. But what I got was fluff. However, for what it is, as a big and I mean BIG giant robot fan, the last 30 - 40 minutes made me feel like a little boy again.

I will be purchasing it on dvd, hopefully the directors cut trims most of the fluff out because next to Knocked Up, it's definitely the funnest summer movie I've seen thus far.

I'm in the mood for some giant robot action. I am pretty positive the original cartoon hasn't aged well, so I have a hankerin' for Beast Wars. I always preferred the Beast Wars storyline anyways. Is that shit on dvd?
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 10, 2007, 01:37:46 AM: nostalgia cigarillo
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: Himu on July 10, 2007, 01:38:37 AM: Quote from: Professor Prole on July 10, 2007, 01:37:46 AM
nostalgia cigarillo

GIANT ROBOT cigarillo, thank you very much.
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 10, 2007, 01:40:03 AM: Quote
I want my Optimus Prime, Megatron, and co. actually serving as characters and actually having..you know, development.
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the last 30 - 40 minutes made me feel like a little boy again.
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so I have a hankerin' for Beast Wars. I always preferred the Beast Wars storyline anyways.

nostalgia cigarillo
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: The Fake Shemp on July 10, 2007, 01:41:47 AM: I give this review a B-.
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: AdmiralViscen on July 10, 2007, 01:42:10 AM: How is he a nostalgia cigarillo if he prefers Beast Wars to the original?
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on July 10, 2007, 01:43:25 AM: summary: you had hoped that transformers would treat you with respect, but it ended up fucking you up the ass. in this way, it made you feel like a little boy again for 30-40 minutes.
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 10, 2007, 01:43:35 AM: Quote
I want my Optimus Prime, Megatron, and co. actually serving as characters and actually having..you know, development.

nostalgia cigarillo
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 10, 2007, 01:44:12 AM: Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on July 10, 2007, 01:43:25 AM
summary: you had hoped that transformers would treat you with respect, but it ended up fucking you up the ass. in this way, it made you feel like a little boy again for 30-40 minutes.

...and he found that he liked it and wishes to experience it again!
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: Himu on July 10, 2007, 01:46:26 AM: I won't deny my love for Transformers tv shows.
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on July 10, 2007, 01:47:30 AM: Quote from: Professor Prole on July 10, 2007, 01:44:12 AM
Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on July 10, 2007, 01:43:25 AM
summary: you had hoped that transformers would treat you with respect, but it ended up fucking you up the ass. in this way, it made you feel like a little boy again for 30-40 minutes.

...and he found that he liked it and wishes to experience it again!

yes, he feels that if its lesser bits saw a trim and there was less "fluff, "he'd be willing to give it another go. Possibly to the level of...Knocked Up?
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: The Fake Shemp on July 10, 2007, 01:47:34 AM: The Transformers TV shows and animated movie sucked.
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: Himu on July 10, 2007, 01:48:09 AM: Beast Wars didn't.
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on July 10, 2007, 01:48:39 AM: he would also have liked it more if there were a greater amount of bestiality
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: TVC15 on July 10, 2007, 01:48:44 AM: Worst movie I have seen in theatres since Phantom Menace!
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: The Fake Shemp on July 10, 2007, 01:49:09 AM: I didn't even watch that shit. Robot dinosaurs in jungles is stupid. Transformers just sucked.
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 10, 2007, 01:51:11 AM: BUT IT HAS GIANT ROBOTS BLOWING SHIT UP WILLCO

WHERE IS YOUR B- GOD NOW
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: Himu on July 10, 2007, 01:52:59 AM: Quote from: Willco on July 10, 2007, 01:49:09 AM
I didn't even watch that shit. Robot dinosaurs in jungles is stupid. Transformers just sucked.

I bet you were one of those GI Joe fegs as a kid.
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: The Fake Shemp on July 10, 2007, 01:53:14 AM: The cartoon never had giant robots blowing shit up - it was a lame animated adventure with laser guns.

If you cannot spot the difference between realistic computer generated and practical effects and a lame Sunday morning cartoon show, I feel sorry for you!
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: TVC15 on July 10, 2007, 01:54:01 AM: GI Joe was fine as a kid, but even my 6-7 year old self could see that the concept behind transformers was fundamentally distinguished mentally-challenged.
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 10, 2007, 01:54:34 AM: i can spot the difference; it's just an academic difference. it's like choosing between a turd with peanuts and a turd with corn, as i am wont to say and o am i wont indeed
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: The Fake Shemp on July 10, 2007, 01:55:00 AM: G.I. Joe was infinitely cooler, but I liked He-Man more because of all the gay subtext am i rite, TVC?
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: TVC15 on July 10, 2007, 01:56:01 AM: He-man was waaaaaay too gay for me, much like pro football.
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: The Fake Shemp on July 10, 2007, 01:56:33 AM: Quote from: Professor Prole on July 10, 2007, 01:54:34 AM
i can spot the difference; it's just an academic difference. it's like choosing between a turd with peanuts and a turd with corn, as i am wont to say and o am i wont indeed

Seeing large metallic robots tear through cities and knock the crap out of each other tickles my fancy. Not because it's Transformers, but because it looks real. They could make another robot or - hell! - even a monster movie employing the same effects crew and I'd dig that. I'm a fan of robots and monsters destroying stuff.
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on July 10, 2007, 01:56:47 AM: yeah even as a child I could not stomach He-Man.
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on July 10, 2007, 01:57:32 AM: Willco I have it on good authority that Cloverfield is a movie about Cthulu...

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vs. the GO-BOTS!! :o :o :o
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Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: The Fake Shemp on July 10, 2007, 01:57:33 AM: I always wanted Skeletor to win because He-Man flaunted his homosexuality in every episode.
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 10, 2007, 01:57:41 AM: maybe if they had Lady-Boy, eh?
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: BobbyRobby on July 10, 2007, 01:57:51 AM: It's not a popular opinion, but I always thought GI JOE was far better than Transformers and even moreso that the GI JOE animated movie was way better than the Transformers one despite the silliness of Cobra La.

Interesting fact. Optimus was not originally planned to die. The GI JOE movie started production first and they had planned to kill off Duke and have Falcon shape up and take the leadership position. The GI JOE movie got delayed though, and the Transformers writers liked the idea and lifted it. Parents complained, and they had to change GI JOE when it was released.

It was pretty dumb. Instead of saying Duke died, Scarlett says he slipped into a coma. They didn't change the video at all. The writer said that if you watch it with the audio off, it's pretty obvious that he's supposed to die. At the end of the movie, you hear Doc say over the radio "Great news, Duke's come out of his coma."

Of course, GI JOE never made it to theatres after TF bombed, but if it had on time, Optimus might not have died due to the backlash from it.
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: Ichirou on July 10, 2007, 01:58:00 AM: Aren't most of the people here (Willco, TVC 15, Himu) in their very early twenties? They sort of missed out on the whole original Transformers phenomenon in the eighties, I think.
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: The Fake Shemp on July 10, 2007, 01:58:20 AM: CTHULHU VS GO-BOTS OMG MOVIE OF THE YEAR
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 10, 2007, 01:58:31 AM: willco, would you pay to see a michael bay helmed GO-BOTS movie?
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on July 10, 2007, 01:59:32 AM: Fuck JLA + Transformers, I want to see NextWave + Go-Bots.
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 10, 2007, 01:59:59 AM: willco's probably more GEN 13 than NextWave.
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: The Fake Shemp on July 10, 2007, 02:00:36 AM: I'd pay to see any movie involving robots if they looked cool and destroyed shit - like in Bay's movie. Now, if the Transformers looked like the cartoon counterparts, it would probably be lame and I probably wouldn't see it.
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: TVC15 on July 10, 2007, 02:00:45 AM: The sexuality projected by He-man was just so antiquated and crude, like the gay "body building beefcake" mags of the 60s. If He-man wished to really tap into the sexuality of the children of the era, he should have been wearing popular contemporary bondage gear, like this:

(http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/images/h2/h2_2004.15a,b.jpg)

Loincloths and muscles are so camp. He-man was dated before it ever aired, from the POV of contemporary children's homosexuality.
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: Ichirou on July 10, 2007, 02:01:02 AM: JLA Vs. Dragon Ball Z coming 2009. Believe. :shh
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: BobbyRobby on July 10, 2007, 02:01:25 AM: Quote from: Ichirou on July 10, 2007, 01:58:00 AM
Aren't most of the people here (Willco, TVC 15, Himu) in their very early twenties? They sort of missed out on the whole original Transformers phenomenon in the eighties, I think.

I missed out too, but I was a weird kid. My older brothers had all the toys, and I was obsessed with them. I would even buy all the old VHS of the cartoon from video stores.
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on July 10, 2007, 02:02:21 AM: Quote from: Professor Prole on July 10, 2007, 01:59:59 AM
willco's probably more GEN 13 than NextWave.

Oh? Is Willco a confirmed Top Cow apologist? Are there any recent Top Cow properties he's championed against all odds and common sense?
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: Himu on July 10, 2007, 02:02:27 AM: They played transformers in the 90's on some channels if i remember

I don't remember where and how I saw the original Transformers but I was into it when I was 5 or so, in 1990
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: TVC15 on July 10, 2007, 02:02:32 AM: I am 26, Ichirou, you stuipd cigarillo.
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 10, 2007, 02:02:37 AM: Quote from: TVC15
contemporary children's homosexuality

:lol :lol :lol

you need to trademark that line, dude.
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: The Fake Shemp on July 10, 2007, 02:03:05 AM: I believe He-Man was only created because Hasbro was supposed to make toys for Conan the Barbarian, but after they realized how mature it was, they altered their toy line slightly and created He-Man.

I was never a Gen 13 guy. I have a few issues of Wildcats, though... I hope that doesn't count.
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: Ichirou on July 10, 2007, 02:03:37 AM: Quote from: TVC 15 on July 10, 2007, 02:02:32 AM
I am 26, Ichirou, you stuipd cigarillo.

I thought you were 23 for some reason. No offense intended, man.
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: drozmight on July 10, 2007, 02:40:55 AM: How about we knock you up the ass, Himu!
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: Himu on July 10, 2007, 02:48:43 AM: I'd like that actually
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: FatalT on July 10, 2007, 02:55:15 AM: I obtained some of the Transformers comics recently but there's so many different generations/subplots/side stories that I didn't know which ones to read. I just went with the 80 issue US version. The UK version is based off the same story as the US version but its like 300+ issues so blegh to that one. Am I going to be reading the right version?
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: Ichirou on July 10, 2007, 02:57:24 AM: Quote from: FatalT on July 10, 2007, 02:55:15 AM
I obtained some of the Transformers comics recently but there's so many different generations/subplots/side stories that I didn't know which ones to read. I just went with the 80 issue US version. The UK version is based off the same story as the US version but its like 300+ issues so blegh to that one. Am I going to be reading the right version?

It's comic books about transforming robots. Who cares about continuity that much?
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: Himu on July 10, 2007, 02:59:10 AM: I care about continuity. Especially in things like X-men.
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: FatalT on July 10, 2007, 03:00:59 AM: Quote from: Himuro on July 10, 2007, 02:59:10 AM
I care about continuity. Especially in things like X-men.

Thank you Himuro. I wish the Transformers comics were as simple as Spiderman's or something. I also have all the Spiderman, X-Men, and Batman comics (just the actual Batman, not the Detective Comics).

One of these days I'm gonna sit here and read em all and its going to be awesome.
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: bork on July 10, 2007, 03:16:15 AM: Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on July 10, 2007, 02:02:21 AM

Oh? Is Willco a confirmed Top Cow apologist? Are there any recent Top Cow properties he's championed against all odds and common sense?

There are Top Cow apologists?? Most of their stuff made no fucking sense to me other than the Darkness, which was fun to read at times. Witchblade went all over the place and sucked royally. It was like nothing ever fucking happened in that comic. The Witchblade stories featuring past wielders were always better and far more interesting. Witchblade Takeru (the Japanese version) is okay too, although the artist draws everything in a painfully perverse fashion. It's only two volumes and is over quick. I still haven't watched most of the anime, which seems pretty interesting and surprisingly decent.

Gen 13 was fuck awesome whenever Adam Warren was writing it. And then when they brought the series back, only to reveal that the original Gen 13 kids weren't dead at the end, that shit fell apart too. WildCATs was poo for most of its lifespan, although when they totally changed everything and made it pretty much non-superhero and non-X-Men rip off, it was kinda fun. I see that Jim Lee came back to restart everything from scratch; did that series start yet? Anything decent? I pretty much stopped reading comics when I came to Japan two-plus years ago...occasionally download scans of some stuff here and there. I liked Marvel Zombies.
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: The Fake Shemp on July 10, 2007, 03:18:24 AM: I dug The Darkness and that was it. And that was just up to a point, because it got crazy convoluted. I vaguely remember the Batman/The Darkness crossover.
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: bork on July 10, 2007, 03:21:55 AM: The Darkness had the WORST fucking costume ever. I kept wondering why he even needed one...it's like these artists and writers just can't let go of costumes no matter what kind of comic they make. Was glad to hear that the recent game got rid of all that. The comic fell apart when they had Jackie "die" so he could go bring back that dead bartender chick, or whoeever it was that got killed.

Witchblade should have been a more violent series, with the blade changing hosts all the time. That's kind of why I like the Japanese versions, because the witchblade makes the wielders all hot and violent.
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And they DON'T have the happiest of endings...the glove fucks them up!
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Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: Ichirou on July 10, 2007, 03:24:25 AM: Dude, I haven't seen the Witchblade anime - is it any good? All I know is that the Witchblade girl is like 90% naked and has huge jugs.
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: The Fake Shemp on July 10, 2007, 03:24:32 AM: Yeah, the costume blew. I was glad the game got rid of it.

And The Darkness officially jumped the shark when Batman told Jackie to reform, resulting in the bartender's death and that whole thing. The crossover pretty much killed the series for me.
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: Himu on July 10, 2007, 03:39:58 AM: I want all of the X-men comics but all the series and shit confuses me
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: FatalT on July 10, 2007, 04:04:15 AM: Quote from: Himuro on July 10, 2007, 03:39:58 AM
I want all of the X-men comics but all the series and shit confuses me

Just get all of the Uncanny X-Men comics. I have about 470 of them. I'm not sure what number they're up to now but I think my collection is pretty recent.
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: bork on July 10, 2007, 09:45:30 AM: Quote from: Ichirou on July 10, 2007, 03:24:25 AM
Dude, I haven't seen the Witchblade anime - is it any good? All I know is that the Witchblade girl is like 90% naked and has huge jugs.

Yeah the made the character a MILF with humongoid breasteseses etc etc but as I was downloading and just briefly checking through each ep (to see the quality), I noticed something. Here's a show that got all kinds of shit for self-censorship (she's only half-naked in the DVD version), and the majority of the episodes don't have her transforming anyway, so it shouldn't have been that big a deal.

I have seen some of the toys they released here....those things are a different story. I think one statue made me blush...the character has a blade sticking out of her special spot! :lol

But despite all that, it's not about the animu titties (really!) and is heavy on story. Seems pretty good to me.
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: Eduardo24 on July 10, 2007, 09:51:37 AM: I don ´t understand the Marvel comics. They started like 50 years ago, but in "Marvel" time only 8 years have passed or something like that.
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: bork on July 10, 2007, 01:13:02 PM: Quote from: Eduardo24 on July 10, 2007, 09:51:37 AM
I don ´t understand the Marvel comics. They started like 50 years ago, but in "Marvel" time only 8 years have passed or something like that.

It's not just Marvel, that's pretty much everyone making comics. You have to do that, or all the characters would be too old/dead now. The thing I like about Marvel is that they stick with their one main universe (616) for everything, and don't have big-ass crossover events like DC does with 99344429494392493923943 versions of Superboy from 1955 showing up and wrecking shit. They pretty much keep the other universes they create self-contained, or just use one book to have different universes together, like Exiles. That's the way to go.
Title: Re: Transformers was great fun
Post by: Bloodwake on July 10, 2007, 01:36:15 PM: Transformers was a great excuse to take several Tylenol Extra Strengths.