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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Glescoes on July 29, 2007, 12:03:46 AM

Title: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: Glescoes on July 29, 2007, 12:03:46 AM
Lair: 6.0, 5.5, 5.0
mario strikers charged: 7.5, 7.5, 7.5
all pro football: 6.5, 6.5, 7.0
ncaa football 2008: 8.5, 9.0, 8.5
stuntman ignition: 7.5, 7.5, 7.0
dynasty warriors gundam: 6.5, 5.5, 5.0
nascar 08: 6.5, 6.5, 6.5
blue dragon: 6.5, 7.5, 6.5
persona 3: 8.5, 9.5, 9.5 game of the month
guitar hero rocks the 80s: 7.5, 6.0, 6.0
jeanne d'arc: 8.0, 7.0, 8.0
picross ds: 8.5, 8.0, 8.0
brain age 2: 8.0, 7.0, 6.0
heroes of mana: 7.5, 5.5, 6.0
luminous arc: 5.5, 6.0, 6.0
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: demi on July 29, 2007, 12:11:54 AM
Ouch on Blue Dragon

Good score for Jeanne D'Arc
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: Glescoes on July 29, 2007, 12:13:01 AM
persona 3 must get
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: demi on July 29, 2007, 12:15:59 AM
Pass, japcrap
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 29, 2007, 12:18:22 AM
LAIR BURN
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on July 29, 2007, 12:23:26 AM
Yay for ncaa football.  Gotsta play as my buckeyes
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: TVC15 on July 29, 2007, 12:25:56 AM
Wow, Dynasty Warriors Gundam is better than Lair.

Really, jotaro, anyone that has played Lair and not been bound by NDA has said the game is shit.  What did you expect?
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: Glescoes on July 29, 2007, 12:29:14 AM
You are just deluding yourselves.

Futami says Lair in the greatest game of all time.

And only the Sony Playstation 3®  can deliver such groundbreaking visuals to the masses.

I believe Futami, has he ever lied to us before? I trust a legend.
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: tiesto on July 29, 2007, 12:29:36 AM
Ouch for Blue Dragon... then again we all know EGM hates super traditional RPGs.
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: MrAngryFace on July 29, 2007, 12:31:07 AM
Jeanne D'Arc and Persona 3 are my big ones for the next month. Blue Dragon demo wasnt BAD per se, but if the story isnt any good im not sure how engaging the game will end up being. I mean there's some neat ideas in the mechanics but its just re-shuffling of older ideas.
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 29, 2007, 12:40:57 AM
The Blue Dragon demo didn't make me think it was AAA but the mediocre scores are kinda surprising.  Blue Dragon seems to be very similar to Dragon Quest 8 except that DQ8 was uglier and more boring.  I guess standards are higher for this gen.  Lair would probably have gotten at least 8s last gen.  Seriously, as overhyped as Lair is, it's probably not a worse game than the Factor 5 games for the Cube. 
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: y2kev on July 29, 2007, 12:42:09 AM
How could LAIR be even worse than RS?

oh yeah ground combat and waggle

DEVELOPERS, WAGGLE KILLS
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: MrAngryFace on July 29, 2007, 12:45:11 AM
Blue Dragon seems like a weak attempt to be a Shin Megami game
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: demi on July 29, 2007, 12:46:52 AM
Blue Dragon seems like a weak attempt to be a Shin Megami game

How do you come up with that?
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: Glescoes on July 29, 2007, 12:49:05 AM
Yeah i dont see the similarity.
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: MrAngryFace on July 29, 2007, 12:51:27 AM
I think you'd need half the bottle of scotch ive just had to see it
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: demi on July 29, 2007, 12:52:45 AM
Gay.
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: MrAngryFace on July 29, 2007, 12:53:56 AM
not drinking is gay
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Post by: Beezy on July 29, 2007, 12:54:06 AM
lol Lair
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: demi on July 29, 2007, 12:55:46 AM
not drinking is gay

suckle on my nozzle and drink my glorious liquid
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: TVC15 on July 29, 2007, 01:17:46 AM
I'm not surprised by Blue Dragon.  The game is an ultra-traditional RPG with nice graphics that have technical issues. 
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: Error2k4 on July 29, 2007, 01:18:07 AM
omfg at p3 scores.
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: BlueTsunami on July 29, 2007, 01:23:18 AM
Jeanne d'arc, yay

Aside from that game, all the games reviewed seem totally average. God, publishers should really spread out their games beyond fucken fall releases
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: Himu on July 29, 2007, 01:54:25 AM
Persona 3 GOTM.

Mwahahahaha
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: The Sceneman on July 29, 2007, 02:22:19 AM
lol Lair
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: Mr. Gundam on July 29, 2007, 02:22:40 AM
Not that surprised about Lair and Gundam Musou, but I'm really shocked by Blue Dragon's scores.
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: TVC15 on July 29, 2007, 02:43:34 AM
Not that surprised about Lair and Gundam Musou, but I'm really shocked by Blue Dragon's scores.

I'm sure the text is along the lines of "this is nothing that we haven't played before."  The game was underambitious.
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: Mr. Gundam on July 29, 2007, 02:47:13 AM
Not that surprised about Lair and Gundam Musou, but I'm really shocked by Blue Dragon's scores.

I'm sure the text is along the lines of "this is nothing that we haven't played before."  The game was underambitious.

Probably. I'm still buying it, though!
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: hyp on July 29, 2007, 05:03:36 AM
the blue dragon demo wasn't that great... i can see why it got those scores.  all that matters in rpg land is P3.  oh yes.

not surprised w/ lair.  i never had faith it was going to be AAA.
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: TVC15 on July 29, 2007, 05:46:20 AM
I'll give BD the half year test:  if people are still talking about it in 6 months, I know it's worthwhile.  Otherwise, snore.
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: tiesto on July 29, 2007, 09:59:53 AM
Yeah, the Japanese impressions for BD seemed extremely positive. Its just that EGM doesn't like super traditional RPGs, which means jack to me as those are the best kind. Innovation is overrated sometimes :P
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: abrader on July 29, 2007, 10:42:24 AM
I'm ignoring the lair scores.

Drakengard scored low too and it was one of my fav games last gen.
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: bud on July 29, 2007, 11:41:34 AM
awesome rental.
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 29, 2007, 12:49:05 PM
Drakengard scored low too and it was one of my fav games last gen.

bad taste confirmed
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: Himu on July 29, 2007, 02:46:09 PM
drakengard sucks
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 29, 2007, 02:55:29 PM
Abrader likes Genji on the PS3 too.  But like he said, let's keep in mind that people like different stuff than you do.  You might not understand it but some people derive pleasure from playing crap games. 
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: MrAngryFace on July 30, 2007, 02:00:10 AM
(http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb165/mrangryface_bucket/1185767992689.png)
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: The Sceneman on July 30, 2007, 02:17:33 AM
hahaha
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on July 30, 2007, 02:49:12 AM
I lol'd
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: ferricide on July 30, 2007, 03:26:47 AM
Blue Dragon seems to be very similar to Dragon Quest 8 except that DQ8 was uglier and more boring.
they're not very similar at all. at all.

DQ8 is like dragon quest (duh) but with excellent graphics (for the PS2). BD is a lot like final fantasy V. it really feels like nothing so much as a 16-bit RPG put into the modern day.

I'm not surprised by Blue Dragon.  The game is an ultra-traditional RPG with nice graphics that have technical issues. 
ultra-traditional isn't bad. and having beaten it, i don't think the technical issues are major.

I'll give BD the half year test:  if people are still talking about it in 6 months, I know it's worthwhile.  Otherwise, snore.
i'm still talking about it 6 months after i beat it. on the other hand, that's because it's just coming out here now and it's become a topic of conversation once again.

having said that, i think it's quite a solid and enjoyable game. i gave it an 8.5 (import) in OXM. i could see lower, but 6.5 seems low to me, personally. i don't shit on games for not being next-gen from a gameplay perspective. BD has the most flexible job system i've seen in an RPG as well, which has to count for something. the game more or less turns pathetically easy at the end thanks to that, but that's not (again) a major criticism in my mind. i enjoyed the ride, and certainly nothing else on 360 is reminiscent of it.

i also thought the story was charming, but one's mileage may vary there, no doubt. it was hardly original. but the execution was great (from a cinematic perspective) and the characters sold me the story. it's simply well-told.

what little i played of the US version had really mediocre text, though. that was like, the first town, though. i didn't have time to check out more.
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: demi on July 30, 2007, 03:45:48 AM
Do all boss battles have cheesy hair metal music? I only fought the robot boss in the demo.
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: Glescoes on July 30, 2007, 04:02:54 AM
nope
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: ferricide on July 30, 2007, 04:06:08 AM
Do all boss battles have cheesy hair metal music? I only fought the robot boss in the demo.
no, as mentioned, just the boss battles, and not even all of those.

that demo was really odd -- it's from quite far into the game. i don't think it makes a particularly comprehensible demo, but i guess they wanted stronger characters with more abilities. shrug.
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: Cormacaroni on July 30, 2007, 05:05:59 AM
I'd agree with ferricide. It's a very charming little game, but you won't get much of a sense of that from the demo. You have to invest in the characters from the start. You can't just slice out a chapter of a good book and expect readers to be enthralled.

Also worth considering: The English version offers the added plus of harder modes I believe, which should make it less of a grind.  (actually the J version has the harder modes now too I believe, but i'm not going to replay...60hrs or so was enough)



Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 30, 2007, 10:14:02 AM
(http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb165/mrangryface_bucket/1185767992689.png)

That's awesome.   :lol

But did you spend a lot of time making that?  Because I still haven't got my wallpapers, bro.   :(
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on July 30, 2007, 10:31:29 AM
(http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb165/mrangryface_bucket/1185767992689.png)
The play Magazine curse strikes again. They gave Lair a 9, and I think they gave BD a 8.5 or something like that.
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: MrAngryFace on July 30, 2007, 10:42:16 AM
Play likes EVERYTHING. They even gave Bullet Witch too high a score iirc, and I LIKE the game.
Title: Re: EGM Scores (LAIR BOMBS) EGM > PLAY MAGAZINE
Post by: MrAngryFace on July 30, 2007, 10:42:38 AM
(http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb165/mrangryface_bucket/1185767992689.png)

That's awesome.   :lol

But did you spend a lot of time making that?  Because I still haven't got my wallpapers, bro.   :(

Nope. Yet another product of 4chan's Videogame forum.