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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Phoenix Dark on August 01, 2007, 05:24:36 PM

Title: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 01, 2007, 05:24:36 PM: In this thread we sip scotch while discussing music, in particular which one-time great artists fell from grace the hardest. Perhaps your favorite artist has suffered this: after a couple great albums for some reason - money, lack of illegal drugs, religion - they start making horrible music. :'(

I'll start with some hip hop

Eminem

Em fell off hard. Before signing with Dr. Dre he was absolutely vicious; almost like Illmatic era AZ with bigger balls. His first two albums with Dre are good (especially Marshall Mathers LP) but since then he's been horrible. It's shocking when you listen: his entire flow is different now.

BEFORE: Em (unsigned in 1996)
[youtube=425,350]STt48YPdLOs[/youtube]

AFTER
[youtube=425,350]PLxc53RcHJw[/youtube]
WTF MARSHAL?

SNOOP

I don't think anyone will post videos from an artists who's fallen off harder than this fool. Holy shit, maybe he didn't write Doggystyle afterall...

BEFORE: Doggystyle album
[youtube=425,350]9PVlqQcyTXg[/youtube]

AFTER:
[youtube=425,350]okS1u85MB1g[/youtube]
:rofl :'(
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: Saint Cornelius on August 01, 2007, 05:25:22 PM: DJ Shadow. :'(
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: bud on August 01, 2007, 05:25:55 PM: drop it like it's hot has an awesome beat :maf
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: Himu on August 01, 2007, 05:26:34 PM: I have to say that Rhythm and Gangsta is actually one of Snoop's best albums, and one of my favorite albums from 2004 (or was it 05?).

Talib Kweli and Mos Def.
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: bud on August 01, 2007, 05:27:02 PM: pd, whatever happened with dre's new album?
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: Himu on August 01, 2007, 05:28:02 PM: Quote from: bud on August 01, 2007, 05:27:02 PM
pd, whatever happened with dre's new album?

:rofl

That album has been in the making for years.
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: Glescoes on August 01, 2007, 05:32:14 PM: infinite :rock

wtf happened
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: TVC15 on August 01, 2007, 05:33:58 PM: Quote from: Saint Cornelius on August 01, 2007, 05:25:22 PM
DJ Shadow. :'(

winnar
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 01, 2007, 05:46:53 PM: Quote from: bud on August 01, 2007, 05:27:02 PM
pd, whatever happened with dre's new album?

Dre is a perfectionist and won't release it until it's...perfect. But honestly...I doubt it will come out anytime soon. And the thought of it featuring 50 Cent makes me even less interested in it.

If it doesn't come out next summer than damn, who cares
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: bud on August 01, 2007, 05:48:03 PM: Quote from: Himuro on August 01, 2007, 05:28:02 PM
Quote from: bud on August 01, 2007, 05:27:02 PM
pd, whatever happened with dre's new album?

:rofl

That album has been in the making for years.

but eminem said on his last album on that last track that they were going make him do it. :(

i just wanted to hear some awesome beats.

Quote from: Billy Rygar on August 01, 2007, 05:39:02 PM
Chili Peppers went from a a trite nuisance to the most annoying band of the forever.

no they didn't! :'(

their last was good album imo.
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: hyp on August 01, 2007, 05:54:25 PM: common. :o
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 01, 2007, 05:57:36 PM: Quote from: bud on August 01, 2007, 05:48:03 PM
Quote from: Himuro on August 01, 2007, 05:28:02 PM
Quote from: bud on August 01, 2007, 05:27:02 PM
pd, whatever happened with dre's new album?

but eminem said on his last album on that last track that they were going make him do it. :(

Dre's working with this guy now:
[youtube=425,350]QFmB3szwRJQ[/youtube]

Dude says September but yea right. btw here's one of his song's with Dre's production; beat is nice although it sounds old
[youtube=425,350]-g4hr40vtkI[/youtube]
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: TVC15 on August 01, 2007, 05:58:06 PM: Chili Peppers have blown since Mother's Milk. Well, Mother's Milk ain't that bad.
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: bud on August 01, 2007, 05:58:29 PM: Quote from: Billy Rygar on August 01, 2007, 05:55:14 PM
Lair>Chili Peppers. Well maybe not, BUT STILL.

but lair lacks substance whereas the rhcp do not >:(
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: CajoleJuice on August 01, 2007, 07:37:25 PM: Pearl Jam
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: Himu on August 01, 2007, 08:15:55 PM: Quote from: CajoleJuice on August 01, 2007, 07:37:25 PM
Pearl Jam

???

Peal Jam's self titled album was pretty good
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: Mupepe on August 01, 2007, 08:16:56 PM: Common
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: hyp on August 01, 2007, 08:19:30 PM: Quote from: Mupepe on August 01, 2007, 08:16:56 PM
Common

:shh
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: Himu on August 01, 2007, 08:20:22 PM: Quote from: Mupepe on August 01, 2007, 08:16:56 PM
Common

(http://i11.tinypic.com/4vdrt7c.gif)
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: CajoleJuice on August 01, 2007, 08:27:28 PM: Quote from: Himuro on August 01, 2007, 08:15:55 PM
Quote from: CajoleJuice on August 01, 2007, 07:37:25 PM
Pearl Jam

???

Peal Jam's self titled album was pretty good

I listened to it about a dozen times due to people like you. It sucks.
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 01, 2007, 08:29:13 PM: Quote from: CajoleJuice on August 01, 2007, 08:27:28 PM
Quote from: Himuro on August 01, 2007, 08:15:55 PM
Quote from: CajoleJuice on August 01, 2007, 07:37:25 PM
Pearl Jam

???

Peal Jam's self titled album was pretty good

I listened to it about a dozen times due to people like you. It sucks.
:lol

Only reason it got any hype was the anti Bush shit. Damn Eddie what happened
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: Himu on August 01, 2007, 08:29:56 PM: Hey now. It's not bad but not great either. It's decent.
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: Ichirou on August 02, 2007, 10:30:30 AM: All of Pearl Jam's albums rock. CajoleJuice is just trying to prove his portorican street cred.
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: Tauntaun on August 02, 2007, 11:21:18 AM: Pearl Jam really fell off after Vitalogy, that was the beginning of their direction into a new sound. Ten stands as one of the greatest rock albums EVA!!! :punch :rock
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on August 02, 2007, 11:58:48 AM: Quote from: bud on August 01, 2007, 05:27:02 PM
pd, whatever happened with dre's new album?
I expect it to come out day-and-date with Chinese Democracy. :-\
Quote from: TVC 15 on August 01, 2007, 05:58:06 PM
Chili Peppers have blown since Mother's Milk. Well, Mother's Milk ain't that bad.
Cosigned. Blood Sugar Sex Magik was unimpeachably awesome, but the band seems to get more and more annoying with each subsequent release. :'(
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: Solo on August 02, 2007, 12:06:17 PM: Francis Ford Coppola
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: bud on August 02, 2007, 12:14:00 PM: john mctiernan :'(
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: Wobedraggled on August 02, 2007, 12:51:06 PM: Metallica, Black album forward.

And justice... was the last good album
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: Tauntaun on August 02, 2007, 03:54:35 PM: Quote from: Wobedraggled on August 02, 2007, 12:51:06 PM
Metallica, Black album forward.

And justice... was the last good album

you know it's sad but trueeeee....
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 02, 2007, 04:51:29 PM: Black Album is a good album. It's not metal, it's a classic hard rock album. Everything after that has sucked YES, but don't lump Black Album with LOAD
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: TVC15 on August 02, 2007, 04:58:46 PM: Black album is a total sellout record.
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 02, 2007, 05:11:20 PM: No its not omg. It's called growth. The album is merely a change of direction. You don't sell out with stuff like Wherever I May Roam, Sad But True, etc lol. Nothing Else Matters? Meh a rock band can grow. It's sad that fans expect artists to stay in the exact same lane for their entire career, as if they own stock in them or something. Metallica released 4 great metal albums, then played around with hard rock and changed the music scene. I can't knock em for that. :-\

That's not the definition of "selling out" to me
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 02, 2007, 05:35:15 PM: Black is a sellout album. Just because you have no taste in metal does not mean that Black is as credible as previous efforts; it just means that it is more accessible to schlubs. And Nothing Else Matters? What are you, a woman?
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: Robo on August 02, 2007, 05:40:00 PM: I'd call it a sellout record based on where they went after it and because of it, but I think it gets a bad wrap. Beyond the opener and One, And Justice For All is considerably worse. It goes to RUSH levels of boring, overblown complication and takes every thrash gimmick to yawn-filled excesses.

I can't imagine a different scenario moving away from AJFA that would result in an album as good as the black album without wholly retreading Ride the Lightning again. The big-picture problem with it is that they allowed it to be a sellout record by adopting that sound as their new permanent direction, creating from it Load and Reload and all that subsequent garbage.
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: Gay Boy on August 02, 2007, 05:41:17 PM: Rolling Stones comes to mind, they haven't done anything decent in like 20 years.
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 02, 2007, 05:44:22 PM: One augured the end. You weeping manpussy, HARVESTER OF SORROWS, THE FRAYED ENDS OF SANITY, TO LIVE IS TO DIE :rock :rock :rock

...DYER'S EVE :gloomy
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 02, 2007, 05:48:26 PM: Quote from: Professor Prole on August 02, 2007, 05:44:22 PM
One augured the end. You weeping manpussy, HARVESTER OF SORROWS, THE FRAYED ENDS OF SANITY, TO LIVE IS TO DIE :rock :rock :rock

...DYER'S EVE :gloomy

:bow :bow

And Justice is pretty damn BADASS. Listening to that album made the Wizard of Oz more entertaining to watch.
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: Robo on August 02, 2007, 05:54:39 PM: :zzz :zzz :zzz

Metallica can suck a dolphin dick, anyway. Slayer :bow
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 02, 2007, 05:59:26 PM: I'M SORRY, DID SOMEONE QUEEF IN HERE
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: Robo on August 02, 2007, 06:03:20 PM: You're gonna call me a manpussy and hail Metallica over SLAYER?

HAUHAUHA
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 02, 2007, 06:04:22 PM: WHO OPENED THE CAN OF TUNA IN HERE
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 02, 2007, 06:04:43 PM: :lol
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: Robo on August 02, 2007, 06:20:24 PM: It's the approaching red-rocketed dolphins that you smell. :sp0rsk1
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 02, 2007, 06:21:22 PM: I like Slayer, but they're not great song writers. Even Metallica at their worse were able to construct basic shit
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: CajoleJuice on August 02, 2007, 09:19:28 PM: ONE is in Guitar Hero III

GOTY CONFIRMED
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: Bloodwake on August 03, 2007, 02:45:26 AM: Hi.

Red Hot Chili Peppers kick ass.

Fuck you guys.
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on August 03, 2007, 11:47:46 PM: Quote from: CajoleJuice on August 02, 2007, 09:19:28 PM
ONE is in Guitar Hero III

GOTY CONFIRMED
Slow Ride needs to be the master track and Wheezer needs to be removed, then I'll agree with you.
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: Bloodwake on August 04, 2007, 03:42:54 PM: Speaking of Weezer, they sure as fuck fell off.
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: BlackMage on August 04, 2007, 08:41:00 PM: U2
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: bud on August 04, 2007, 08:56:02 PM: Quote from: BlackMage on August 04, 2007, 08:41:00 PM
U2
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/stinkyfishtaco/cutedog2.jpg)
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: BlackMage on August 05, 2007, 01:06:37 AM: what? it's true! they haven't done anything good since the mid 90's.
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: Ichirou on August 05, 2007, 11:14:52 AM: Their last two albums have been good stuff. Pop sucked, though.
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: Mike Works on August 05, 2007, 05:26:45 PM: (http://www.eazye.info/img/nwa.jpg)

(http://www.wildaboutmovies.com/images_3/AreWeDoneYetMoviePoster.jpg)
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: thekavorka on August 05, 2007, 05:39:48 PM: weezer definitely.

and rhcp still kicks ass. their sound may be a lot different, but i still like listening to them
Title: Re: Artists who fell off HARD
Post by: anthonyOA on August 05, 2007, 08:39:47 PM: this is a great thread. the fall of eminem upset me greatly. i'm still kinda in denial about it. he used to be the best without a doubt imo. now he's below average, with most of his re-up not even a good listen.