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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: MrAngryFace on August 15, 2007, 06:20:41 PM

Title: To Draft, or Not To Draft.
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 15, 2007, 06:20:41 PM
http://www.slate.com/id/2172225/?GT1=10346

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And yet the question is tacitly raised or evaded every time the issue of troop shortages in Iraq comes up. Adm. Michael Mullen, the new chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, testified at his confirmation hearings this month that the surge in Iraq could not be sustained beyond next April without a change in the Army's "force structure"—that is, without more troops or a change in the way they're deployed or organized.

Two weeks ago, Gen. Richard Cody, the Army's vice chief of staff, was asked, during a Q&A session at the Captains' Career Course at Fort Knox, Ky., whether the U.S. armed forces could deal with another conventional military threat, should one suddenly arise. Gen. Cody said, "No, not a big one."

Most serious military analysts, regardless of their views on the Iraq war, think the Army needs more troops. But from where? An alluring array of incentives and bonuses has kept recruitment drives afloat but hardly soaring.

The draft ended in 1973, just before the Vietnam War did. But its demise was foretold four years earlier, on March 27, 1969, when Richard Nixon—just two months into his presidency—announced the creation of a "commission on an all-volunteer armed force."

It was well understood that the purpose of the commission was to sanctify the abolition of the draft. The panel was chaired by Thomas Gates, a former secretary of defense in the Eisenhower administration. But more to the point, it was set up by Martin Anderson, Nixon's campaign chairman and a free-market economist who opposed conscription on philosophical grounds. And among the commissioners that Anderson appointed were two of the nation's most renowned libertarian economists, who shared Anderson's view on the matter: Milton Friedman and Alan Greenspan.

Title: Re: To Draft, or Not To Draft.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 15, 2007, 06:26:39 PM
If there was an Evilbore platoon who wouldn't make it out of boot camp, and who'd die first? :-\

Title: Re: To Draft, or Not To Draft.
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 15, 2007, 06:29:16 PM
I personally dont think I could handle frontline conflict. I would pray to be stuck in some information position.
Title: Re: To Draft, or Not To Draft.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 15, 2007, 06:37:59 PM
of the evilboreans eligible for the draft.

shake would definitely be private pyle, no doubt. he'd go awol in boot camp after his second pillowcase party.

private arvie would develop a psychosis and get media coverage over "abu ghraib 2" when he is caught with a collection of elaborately carved arab baby skulls.

corporal stocky would get caught having rough spartan sex with a sunni boy, although it would be covered up quickly. this will disillusion private foc, also known as "private choggle" after he successively shits his pants during three routine convoy missions.

private "michelle" will get his first confirmed kill on a legless iraqi woman and as a result will discover his inner badassedness, subsequently subjecting evilboreans to his newfound sense of hypermasculine arch-conservatism until it is revelaed that he lost both his testicles when he sat on an ied to jerk to cheeseburger porn while on patrol.

private nintenho will die in what is presumably a friendly fire accident given his heritage, although tapes of him enraging his squaddies with his unintelligible gibberish talk will suggest that the "fire" was not so "friendly" at all.





Title: Re: To Draft, or Not To Draft.
Post by: drozmight on August 15, 2007, 06:44:08 PM
I'd probably be the douche who get his head shot off before everyone else realizes they're under attack.
Title: Re: To Draft, or Not To Draft.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 15, 2007, 06:45:28 PM
Well I'm not going to argue with baby skulls couse I always wanted some, put private?  I should at least be officer-cadet under stocky...not under in that spartan way.   
Title: Re: To Draft, or Not To Draft.
Post by: Mupepe on August 15, 2007, 06:45:55 PM
i'm pretty sure i'm eligible for the draft.  how would i do?
Title: Re: To Draft, or Not To Draft.
Post by: drozmight on August 15, 2007, 06:47:39 PM
i'm pretty sure i'm eligible for the draft.  how would i do?

You'll probably get aids from an Iraqi prostitute and die years after the war is over in your wheel chair while begging for money on the side of the road.
Title: Re: To Draft, or Not To Draft.
Post by: Mupepe on August 15, 2007, 06:48:19 PM
not much different than my life outside of the armed forces, sign me up!
Title: Re: To Draft, or Not To Draft.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 15, 2007, 06:49:55 PM
i'm pretty sure i'm eligible for the draft.  how would i do?

You'll start enough families with enough different iraqi women, enough that Iraq will be described as little America in 30 years.

Also go gay during basic training after having a single night away from women. 
Title: Re: To Draft, or Not To Draft.
Post by: Mupepe on August 15, 2007, 06:50:27 PM
I'm pretty sure I'd just experiment with TVC. 

Title: Re: To Draft, or Not To Draft.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 15, 2007, 06:53:18 PM
 :lol

well thats not gay then.


Speaking of which whiteman would totally be a low level general with radical ideas on how to solve the iraqi's. 
Title: Re: To Draft, or Not To Draft.
Post by: Oblivion on August 15, 2007, 07:46:22 PM
of the evilboreans eligible for the draft.

shake would definitely be private pyle, no doubt. he'd go awol in boot camp after his second pillowcase party.

private arvie would develop a psychosis and get media coverage over "abu ghraib 2" when he is caught with a collection of elaborately carved arab baby skulls.

corporal stocky would get caught having rough spartan sex with a sunni boy, although it would be covered up quickly. this will disillusion private foc, also known as "private choggle" after he successively shits his pants during three routine convoy missions.

private "michelle" will get his first confirmed kill on a legless iraqi woman and as a result will discover his inner badassedness, subsequently subjecting evilboreans to his newfound sense of hypermasculine arch-conservatism until it is revelaed that he lost both his testicles when he sat on an ied to jerk to cheeseburger porn while on patrol.

private nintenho will die in what is presumably a friendly fire accident given his heritage, although tapes of him enraging his squaddies with his unintelligible gibberish talk will suggest that the "fire" was not so "friendly" at all.

:rofl :rofl :rofl  I love Drinky.
Title: Re: To Draft, or Not To Draft.
Post by: Ichirou on August 15, 2007, 07:49:25 PM
Father_Mike is Canadian, so he wouldn't be eligible for the draft.  Also, I think he'd pussy out.  He'd be like the chickenshit character from Saving Private Ryan who watches the Nazi kill the Jewish guy and just quakes in his boots and doesn't do anything.
Title: Re: To Draft, or Not To Draft.
Post by: bagofeyes on August 15, 2007, 08:12:54 PM
lol americans
Title: Re: To Draft, or Not To Draft.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 15, 2007, 08:24:26 PM
Father_Mike is Canadian, so he wouldn't be eligible for the draft.  Also, I think he'd pussy out.  He'd be like the chickenshit character from Saving Private Ryan who watches the Nazi kill the Jewish guy and just quakes in his boots and doesn't do anything.

Yes that maybe to true, but only if you were that Jewish guy.

After our battalion takes Iraq, Pakistan, and then movies into India, we'll use you Itchi as our elephant mount, you giant fat fuck.   
Title: Re: To Draft, or Not To Draft.
Post by: Ichirou on August 15, 2007, 08:26:19 PM
Father_Mike is Canadian, so he wouldn't be eligible for the draft.  Also, I think he'd pussy out.  He'd be like the chickenshit character from Saving Private Ryan who watches the Nazi kill the Jewish guy and just quakes in his boots and doesn't do anything.

Yes that maybe to true, but only if you were that Jewish guy.

After our battalion takes Iraq, Pakistan, and then movies into India, we'll use you Itchi as our elephant mount, you giant fat fuck.   

I'm not Jewish, Arvie, thanks for the hate, though.  I'm also not that tall! :)

Also, a big LAWWWWL at "maybe to true" and "movies into India." :rofl
Title: Re: To Draft, or Not To Draft.
Post by: Stocky on August 15, 2007, 08:38:05 PM
Why the fuck was I dragged into this? I'm barely here.

Love me that much?  :-*
Title: Re: To Draft, or Not To Draft.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 15, 2007, 08:40:39 PM
STOCKY
Title: Re: To Draft, or Not To Draft.
Post by: BlackMage on August 15, 2007, 08:41:21 PM
If there was an Evilbore platoon, we'd all die of friendly fire. Well.. one of us would live, and it would probably be me.
Title: Re: To Draft, or Not To Draft.
Post by: Ichirou on August 15, 2007, 08:42:10 PM
If there was an Evilbore platoon, we'd all die of friendly fire. Well.. one of us would live, and it would probably be me.

'Cuz you'd be the one shooting, amirite?
Title: Re: To Draft, or Not To Draft.
Post by: Smooth Groove on August 15, 2007, 09:05:26 PM
I thought you were asking about drafting behind a bigger vehicle on the freeway because I've been thinking of trying that recently. 
Title: Re: To Draft, or Not To Draft.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 15, 2007, 09:08:39 PM
Want to avoid the draft? Stay in school.
Title: Re: To Draft, or Not To Draft.
Post by: Smooth Groove on August 15, 2007, 09:14:21 PM
Want to avoid the draft? Stay in school.

Or be a relative of a pro-war GOP politician. 
Title: Re: To Draft, or Not To Draft.
Post by: APF on August 17, 2007, 05:17:43 PM
Fight for me--your rich elder--my young Patriots!
Title: Re: To Draft, or Not To Draft.
Post by: TVC15 on August 17, 2007, 05:54:19 PM
If there were a draft, Shake would probably just eat all the draftees.
Title: Re: To Draft, or Not To Draft.
Post by: Mandark on August 17, 2007, 07:16:54 PM
Abolishing the draft might have inadvertently put the National Guard into play.  I've read that LBJ and Nixon barely considered calling up the Guard to fight in Vietnam, because using it to fight a foreign war was considered a political third rail.  Hence people joining it to avoid overseas service.
Title: Re: To Draft, or Not To Draft.
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on August 18, 2007, 12:05:51 AM
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The Militia Act of 1903 organized the various state militias into the present National Guard system. The Army National Guard is part of the United States Army, comprising approximately one half of its available combat forces and approximately one third of its support organization.

It's total complete bullshit for the national guard to be fighting overseas. It's the fucking state militias. The equivalent of the minute men back in the revolutionary war. Fuck this shitty war.
Title: Re: To Draft, or Not To Draft.
Post by: APF on August 18, 2007, 03:57:40 PM
Yeah we need those guys here to shoot protesters.
Title: Re: To Draft, or Not To Draft.
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on August 18, 2007, 04:03:46 PM
Yeah we need those guys here to shoot protesters.

Seriously, those assholes practicing their first amendment rights, who do they think they are. Supprt our troops and our PREZ!!!! Let the boyZ WiN!!!1!!
Title: Re: To Draft, or Not To Draft.
Post by: Gay Boy on August 18, 2007, 04:08:02 PM
Yeah we need those guys here to shoot protesters.

Seriously, those assholes practicing their first amendment rights, who do they think they are. Supprt our troops and our PREZ!!!! Let the boyZ WiN!!!1!!
you'd like this place
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1883142/posts#comment?q=1

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Title: Re: To Draft, or Not To Draft.
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on August 18, 2007, 04:08:51 PM
Yeah we need those guys here to shoot protesters.

Seriously, those assholes practicing their first amendment rights, who do they think they are. Supprt our troops and our PREZ!!!! Let the boyZ WiN!!!1!!
you'd like this place
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1883142/posts#comment?q=1

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sarcasm lol
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Pray for President Bush - Day 2529

WTF is that shit. Why should I pray for assholes.
Title: Re: To Draft, or Not To Draft.
Post by: APF on August 18, 2007, 04:12:32 PM
So that you could take a shit, rather than being full of it?
Title: Re: To Draft, or Not To Draft.
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on August 18, 2007, 04:13:37 PM
Because I dont want to "Pray for bush?"

Title: Re: To Draft, or Not To Draft.
Post by: APF on August 18, 2007, 04:15:24 PM
Anyway, here's the reference I was making:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings
Title: Re: To Draft, or Not To Draft.
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on August 18, 2007, 04:16:21 PM
I never knew that girl waqs 14 years old in that photo. I always thought she was a college student.
Title: Re: To Draft, or Not To Draft.
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on August 18, 2007, 04:17:32 PM
I dare the president to order protesters to be shot. That would be the end of him if he did.
Title: Re: To Draft, or Not To Draft.
Post by: Gay Boy on August 18, 2007, 04:50:13 PM
I never knew that girl waqs 14 years old in that photo. I always thought she was a college student.
14?! She looks like she was 22-23 or something.