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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Van Cruncheon on August 16, 2007, 01:11:08 AM

Title: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 16, 2007, 01:11:08 AM

i answer nerdy questions correctly in class, and i become MORE POPULAR and MORE CHARMING? what the fuck? this is bullshit! answering questions correctly -- or even acknowledging the teacher's existence -- should result in massive public scorn, derision, humiliation, and WEDGIES. this is NOT RIGHT.

every teenager that is not a loser shitfuck KNOWS that education is for feggits. persona 3 is betraying a fundamental tenet of the schoolyard here.

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Beezy on August 16, 2007, 01:15:05 AM

Maybe it's a school for gifted kids?

How's the game so far? I still haven't started it.

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 16, 2007, 01:18:21 AM

it would be awesome if it didn't try to MAKE NERDS COOL.

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: demi on August 16, 2007, 01:25:25 AM

Chicks like brooding mysterious intellectuals, it's 2007 dude

btw

bioshock > persona

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Smooth Groove on August 16, 2007, 01:27:01 AM

you want to make the people playing the game happy.  It's supposed to be a fantasy.  everyone knows that playing games like Persona dramtically drops your chance to get a girl.  And if you're married, you might get dumped for this. 

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: TVC15 on August 16, 2007, 01:49:00 AM

If you think Persona 3 is backwards when it comes to being a smarty in school, you should see what REALLY happens when you fire a gun against your temple.

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Beezy on August 16, 2007, 02:05:23 AM

Quote from: TVC 15 on August 16, 2007, 01:49:00 AM

If you think Persona 3 is backwards when it comes to being a smarty in school, you should see what REALLY happens when you fire a gun against your temple.

:rofl

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: TVC15 on August 16, 2007, 02:07:26 AM

I like the game so far, but I have to say I hate most of the music.  Poppy, upbeat music in a SMT game makes me shit with displeasure.

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 16, 2007, 02:11:43 AM

C says:
funny how many people are freaked out by the "invokation"
C says:
teens will KILL themselves
C says:
!!!!
C says:
Hooray!

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 16, 2007, 02:14:57 AM

i miss ulala from persona 2 :'(

she was just so angry!

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Smooth Groove on August 16, 2007, 02:23:27 AM

Is Persona 3 worth waiting a week for Bioshock?  I didn't think I would like the premise but you guys are making it sound so awesome. 

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 16, 2007, 02:25:30 AM

are you a NERD?

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: TVC15 on August 16, 2007, 02:26:37 AM

I need a bit more time before I can pass judgement.  The intro is LONG in it.

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: demi on August 16, 2007, 02:30:23 AM

bioshooooooooooooock

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 16, 2007, 02:30:39 AM

well, at least it lets you buy guns from a crooked cop

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Smooth Groove on August 16, 2007, 02:45:18 AM

Quote from: Professor Prole on August 16, 2007, 02:25:30 AM

are you a NERD?

That's kinda a redundant question for me, no?  That's the thing I hate most about being a med student.  You can't deny that you're a nerd.   :'(

Quote from: TVC 15 on August 16, 2007, 02:26:37 AM

I need a bit more time before I can pass judgement.  The intro is LONG in it.

I won't mind if the intro is as gorgeous as FF12's.  Demi was wrong.  FF12 wasn't that bad.  If Bioware's videos look 1/2 as nice, they'll see millions more copies. 

Too bad FF12's in game graphics and more importantly, gameplay, are shit though.   lol  Still, I"m keeping it so that I can watch all the videos when I have time to download other people's game saves. 

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: demi on August 16, 2007, 02:48:58 AM

Quote from: Smooth Groove on August 16, 2007, 02:45:18 AM

I won't mind if the intro is as gorgeous as FF12's.  Demi was wrong.  FF12 wasn't that bad. 

Too bad FF12's in game graphics and more importantly, gameplay, are shit though. 

Uh...

Ok

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Smooth Groove on August 16, 2007, 02:50:28 AM

Quote from: demi on August 16, 2007, 02:48:58 AM

Quote from: Smooth Groove on August 16, 2007, 02:45:18 AM

I won't mind if the intro is as gorgeous as FF12's.  Demi was wrong.  FF12 wasn't that bad. 

Too bad FF12's in game graphics and more importantly, gameplay, are shit though. 

Uh...

Ok

What? Square's CG movies are top grade.

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: demi on August 16, 2007, 02:52:11 AM

I never said the CG was bad, dummy. You just said I was wrong, then said the gameplay - the part I said was shit - was shit. I am right.

Dummy.

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Smooth Groove on August 16, 2007, 02:53:28 AM

Shut up.  I'm just trying to justify the $50 I spent. 

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: hyp on August 16, 2007, 12:59:50 PM

Quote from: TVC 15 on August 16, 2007, 02:07:26 AM

I like the game so far, but I have to say I hate most of the music.  Poppy, upbeat music in a SMT game makes me shit with displeasure.

gah, i like the more mellow, instrumental tracks in the game (velvet room music rocks).  but all the j-pop shit is driving me nuts.  the VA is fucking horrible as well.  how come everyone sounds like an extra from the OC?  goodness, i'm really disappointed in the audio department, in fact they re-used a bunch of old nocturne/DDS sounds. 

gameplay is okay so far, i'm only 3 hours in.  i really hope it picks up.  the social element is starting to bore me. 

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: TVC15 on August 16, 2007, 01:14:43 PM

Yeah, during the day, it seems like the game uses a lot of shitty house-y pop music that relies on one brief loop, made even more annoying when there is a vocal part to the loop, which there frequently is.

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: hyp on August 16, 2007, 01:32:42 PM

they should have kept the vocals for the intro cinema exclusively.  i'm going to have to eventually turn my volume down when i play.   i totally agree with you that the "upbeatness" of it all fucks w/ the mood of a typical SMT game which is usually dark and gritty.  it feels like the devs wanted to reach out to a broader audience this time around.  seems to be working too -- the animu style is getting a lot of praise.

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 16, 2007, 01:38:16 PM

have you had unprotected sex with ghosts yet

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: hyp on August 16, 2007, 01:41:54 PM

how was it?

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Error2k4 on August 16, 2007, 02:17:23 PM

if the social elements are starting to bother you then you'll have a tough time in the game.

I like the balance the game has, got tired of the dungeon well I can enjoy interacting with the NPCs got tired of that, then I can go back to the dungeon.

I put the game way above DDS myself for now, the game is just balanced to a ridiculous degree whereas DDS was all dungeon/story/dungeon/story. not sure about putting it above Nocturne yet. one thing for sure the battle system is amazing and the boss fights are already a lot of fun, fusion like always kicks ass.

the music doesnt bother me tbh, it fits the high school setting very nicely. 

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: hyp on August 16, 2007, 02:21:21 PM

i'm hoping the social part grows on me, especially when i start getting into the whole S.LINK business.   my gripes stem from playing 4 hours and not getting much out of it.  so i'm sure there's a lot in store.

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: tiesto on August 16, 2007, 02:21:47 PM

Quote from: TVC 15 on August 16, 2007, 01:14:43 PM

Yeah, during the day, it seems like the game uses a lot of shitty house-y pop music that relies on one brief loop, made even more annoying when there is a vocal part to the loop, which there frequently is.

Didn't Persona 2 have a bit of poppy, housey stuff in it too?

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Error2k4 on August 16, 2007, 02:25:11 PM

Quote from: hyp on August 16, 2007, 02:21:21 PM

i'm hoping the social part grows on me, especially when i start getting into the whole S.LINK business.   my gripes stem from playing 4 hours and not getting much out of it.  so i'm sure there's a lot in store.

you will learn to like it, when your S.link rank is like 5 and you fuse a persona of that arcana and it gains like 4 levels because of your rank  :D you'll have a persona that's five levels above yours.

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: hyp on August 16, 2007, 02:26:12 PM

Quote from: Error2k4 on August 16, 2007, 02:25:11 PM

Quote from: hyp on August 16, 2007, 02:21:21 PM

i'm hoping the social part grows on me, especially when i start getting into the whole S.LINK business.   my gripes stem from playing 4 hours and not getting much out of it.  so i'm sure there's a lot in store.

you will learn to like it, when your S.link rank is like 5 and you fuse a persona of that arcana and it gains like 4 levels because of your rank  :D you'll have a persona that's five levels above yours.

exactly.  once i start feeling the effects of my social interactions, i will start to value it more.  i'm just barely getting my feet wet.  damn the work day!

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Mondain on August 16, 2007, 03:15:40 PM

Ummmm this game keeps getting more interesting as you play it, but it sure starts slowly. A seemingly neverending stream of so-so cutscenes and dialogue where you just press the X button once in a while. Thankfully after about an hour and a half the town opens up and you finally begin to fight regularly.

Also, the graphics just suck ass, they're of quasi-PSOne levels at time. So much that the environments and the objects contained within are dull and very poorly defined, making it somewhat of a chore to just move around and guide yourself through the levels. I'm not a graphics whore by any means, but it sure is somewhat of an hassle to go from the best-looking 3D japanese console roleplaying game ever made (Blue Dragon) to one of the poorest-looking ones.

The pop and rap tunes don't bother me, they seem to be produced in tongue-in-cheek. They're hilarious and add to the teenage atmosphere.

And the omnipresent spoken dialogue is really a bad thing; even if the voice acting is of a decent quality it still manages to completely spoil the atmosphere since you'll probably just skip through the text with haste. So, make sure to turn it off in the configuration menu.

I like the battle system, and also appreciate the randomly-generated dungeons, along with the numerous novel RPG elements that Persona 3 appears to bring forth. Persona 3 also appears to offer a charming cast of characters, and the daily school life system is another welcome innovation.

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: TVC15 on August 16, 2007, 09:29:10 PM

So, can you fuck yourself over in this game?  Do you have to get to a certain level of the dungeon by a certain date, or game over?

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Error2k4 on August 16, 2007, 10:08:09 PM

no, tartarus blocks your progress if you reached the end of a block before a full moon you wont be able to keep going. that's the best way to measure your progress in the game.

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Mondain on August 16, 2007, 10:50:42 PM

yeah I just reached the first blocked road and wasted like 3-4 days doing minor character improvements around the city... you have some deadlines to meet, but the game appears to be lenient enough so that you don't end up being royally screwed up

and I also completed the first major challenge that is catalyzed by the full moon... pretty good stuff, the crew of characters is good too

worth playing

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: TVC15 on August 17, 2007, 12:57:54 AM

I've only put a few days in, but so far the game hasn't done a good job of letting me know what my deadlines are, so I've kind of been trying to max out my days, not knowing when something needs to be done.  My character is level 5 and I am on dungeon level 14.

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 17, 2007, 01:09:18 AM

holy crap, i'm level 5 and i haven't cleared dungeon level 6 yet. i been eatin' ramen with that kenji kid as he sets a cougar trap!

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Mondain on August 17, 2007, 01:20:57 AM

Kenji is quite the playa'

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Error2k4 on August 17, 2007, 03:53:55 AM

protip: splitting up lets you cover a lot of ground in a floor quickly, so if you want to make a mad dash towards the end of the block you can just split up your team and they will search for the stairs in a floor.

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 17, 2007, 03:59:57 AM

Nich says you can get by on visiting Tartarus as little as once or twice a month. You just need to find the balance between S-Linking and dungeon hacking that works for you.

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Mondain on August 17, 2007, 04:10:52 AM

urgh, there's some MMORPG relationship that you can develop, and the other player answers to you in 1337 speak

and at one time he says "YA RLY"

wonder how long before GAFers find this out and make an annoying thread about this "fabulous" discovery

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: hyp on August 17, 2007, 01:12:25 PM

:bow persona 3

already put 8 hours in, this shit is fucking crack.  but GODDAMN the soundtrack!  finally reached the first block @ tartarus.  the level 14 boss was cake if you

spoiler (click to show/hide)

fused a pixie & angel -- resists his strike attacks.  oh and don't forget to visit the shrine EVERY DAY and receive a fortune, most of the time you get a free 1000yen or 10000yen and i've offered at least 100yen and have gotten a raise in academics every time.  should be the first thing you do after school. 

[close]

the social part has gotten a little better for me now, especially since there's a lot of free time to just do whatever.  battles are still my favorite part of the game though.

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: TVC15 on August 17, 2007, 01:36:32 PM

Quote from: hyp on August 17, 2007, 01:12:25 PM

:bow persona 3

already put 8 hours in, this shit is fucking crack.  but GODDAMN the soundtrack!  finally reached the first block @ tartarus.  the level 14 boss was cake if you

spoiler (click to show/hide)

fused a pixie & angel -- resists his strike attacks.  oh and don't forget to visit the shrine EVERY DAY and receive a fortune, most of the time you get a free 1000yen or 10000yen and i've offered at least 100yen and have gotten a raise in academics every time.  should be the first thing you do after school. 

[close]

I got passed it easily my third time.  I

spoiler (click to show/hide)

used Apsaras, which eliminated my ice weakness and gave me that ability that heals my entire party + raises evade.  Made it really easy, except when Bow Bitch would get weakened

[close]

Then I hit level 16, got my page, and turned my quest in.  I still have not encountered a beetle to get a shell.  Also, it is only April 30th for me, and I have a lil over 5 hours in.  I AM MACHINE.

I also figured out how to get a Jack Frost, via a 3 card spread fusion.  Since I am ahead of the game, I may do that, and then go back into Tartarus to reclaim the cards I used to make it (one of which is a useful, possibly even necessary card).

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: hyp on August 17, 2007, 02:11:41 PM

you can find beetles between floors 10-14, the few times i ran into those suckers they were usually isolated towards to the upper left edge of a map.  (but the game is random, so it's probably just a coincidence).   wow, 4/30 huh?  i'm assuming you've spent a lot of time in the tower and less on social activities?  i missed out an a whole 2-3 day spread because 'bow bitch' was sick.  that really messed w/ my game time.  though i got a few ranks up on my s.links during that time.  right now my s.link's aren't doing much for me.

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Error2k4 on August 17, 2007, 02:15:55 PM

haha, your party members will sometimes blow you off when you want to go to tartarus. it's amusing.

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 17, 2007, 02:18:46 PM

why am I at work

I wish to be in Persona 3

Any general gameplay advice? Nich suggested you go to the mall every evening (when it's the only thing open) and either drink coffee (Charm+) or sing karaoke (Courage+). Also, always study before going to bed (Academic+) unless you're sick or tired.

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Error2k4 on August 17, 2007, 02:24:42 PM

yeah that's why I do, the theater also gives you a nice boost if you go to watch a movie depending on the movie showing you'll get a boost on Charm or Courage. but it's only opened at After School Periods.

are you guys in the midterms?

edit: if the hero is tired or sick, go to the nurse at school you'll get a free courage boost everytime.

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: hyp on August 17, 2007, 02:36:53 PM

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on August 17, 2007, 02:18:46 PM

why am I at work

I wish to be in Persona 3

Any general gameplay advice? Nich suggested you go to the mall every evening (when it's the only thing open) and either drink coffee (Charm+) or sing karaoke (Courage+). Also, always study before going to bed (Academic+) unless you're sick or tired.

do you visit the shrine every day for an academics boost?  on certain days when there is nothing to do during the day i visit the old couple @ the bookstore for a nice S.LINK boost.  use the bathroom as well to increase your mood from "good" to "great" on some days.  if you haven't figured this out yet, after school you can go straight to the town map by talking to the guy closest to the front door of the classroom. 

every sunday (i think), during the daytime, turn on the TV inside your door room to buy special items from the home shopping network that aren't available anywhere else.

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: hyp on August 17, 2007, 02:38:52 PM

Quote from: Error2k4 on August 17, 2007, 02:24:42 PM

edit: if the hero is tired or sick, go to the nurse at school you'll get a free courage boost everytime.

ahh, didn't know about that one, thanks!

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: TVC15 on August 17, 2007, 05:14:39 PM

Money is in short supply in the game.  Also, I might be wrong, but if you study before bed, you seem to lose energy, like studying and sleeping takes away from your status, whereas just going to bed adds to it.

I want to be at home playing, too :(

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 17, 2007, 05:39:46 PM

Persona 3 is so cracklike that I can almost...ALMOST...forget about Bioshock.

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on August 17, 2007, 06:00:35 PM

I just did my mid-terms,I hope I did well.

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: hyp on August 17, 2007, 06:14:15 PM

Quote from: Junpei the Tracer! on August 17, 2007, 06:00:35 PM

I just did my mid-terms,I hope I did well.

(http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb165/mrangryface_bucket/1185767992689.png)

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on August 17, 2007, 06:45:50 PM

 :lol

I suppose I could treat this as the official thread so...

;_;

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 17, 2007, 06:51:13 PM

what the Jesus H. Tracing Christ
why did you just paste 32 pages of an art book we all already own into this thread
get that shit out of here you vellum-snorting whore

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Debaser on August 17, 2007, 06:51:59 PM

Delurking to request that scans of almost the entire art book please be removed!   >:(

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 17, 2007, 06:53:01 PM

JUNPEI HAS BROUGHT THE WRATH OF ATLUS UPON US!!!

I guess reposting scans is the cyber-equivalent of tracing. Forgive him, it's all he knows how to do. :'(

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: demi on August 17, 2007, 06:55:38 PM

Hahahahaha, JUNPEI GONNA GET SUED

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on August 17, 2007, 06:56:34 PM

I'm sorry.

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 17, 2007, 06:57:21 PM

reposting art books isn't cool :wag

Junpei's Charm decreased!

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: The Sceneman on August 17, 2007, 06:58:53 PM

(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m269/QuickSilver_06/CamHokko.jpg)

im curious about this green haired bitch, whats the story here?

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 17, 2007, 07:01:15 PM

actual Persona 3 gameplay discussion -> art book piracy -> pedophile trap

this thread is going places

spoiler (click to show/hide)

jail

[close]

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: y2kev on August 17, 2007, 07:18:30 PM

FUCK JUNPEI

i was like

OMG I WANT TO SHOW THIS TO MY FRIEND

and i give him a link

WTFFf

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Error2k4 on August 17, 2007, 10:58:39 PM

this game is amazing, I cannot stop playing  :-\

TVC: you can gain a bunch of money doing quests for Elizabeth.

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Mondain on August 18, 2007, 12:07:17 AM

urgh, the second major event sucks, I beat the boss but then decided to reset the PS2 since I clumsily pissed off my date the next day, but then the damn boss beats my characters every time I retry and you can't save before the fight

it's been like 3 times that I had to bear the same boring 20 minutes of text cutscenes where you just press X

it's still a good mission though

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Error2k4 on August 18, 2007, 12:41:58 AM

dude, you can apologize later if a S.Link goes into reverse status. I dont know why you restarted  ???

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 18, 2007, 01:11:55 AM

Kenji :o

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: hyp on August 18, 2007, 04:06:26 PM

man, the climb from floor 25 to 36 is a bitch.  i screwed myself over and died after getting a bunch of money and leveling a few personas =[

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on August 18, 2007, 10:44:21 PM

Kenji is my idol.
Yuko totally wants me.
Fuuka!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: persona 3 LIES TO TEENS
Post by: Himu on August 19, 2007, 05:31:01 PM

Quote from: TVC 15 on August 16, 2007, 02:07:26 AM

I like the game so far, but I have to say I hate most of the music.  Poppy, upbeat music in a SMT game makes me shit with displeasure.

Poppy, upbeat music has always appeared in SMT.