THE BORE
General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Gay Boy on August 20, 2007, 02:43:11 PM
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This format war has taken another turn to self implosion. Paramount has gone from neutral to HD-DVD only. :lol
This format war is a fucking mess and this step has sealed it's likely fall. lololol no Indiana Jones, Transformers, Star Trek..etc on Blu-Ray. Universal & Paramount on one side. Fox, Disney, & Sony on another. Such a mess.
DVD WINS
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are you fucking kidding me
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ha ha to early adopters
Mondain am suiciding
Make sure Mondain is Ok guys.
:punch >:(
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Hopefully, it'll force Blu-ray prices to come down. Hd-dvds are much cheaper in general.
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Hopefully, it'll force Blu-ray prices to come down. Hd-dvds are much cheaper in general.
Hybrids (which Universal are so big on) are more expensive than either.
God, what a fucking cluster.
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Just bought a 360 add-on to go with my Hot Fuzz and Shaun of the Dead
Wow, HD-DVD is where it's at!
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Mondain will think of some excuse for this probably.
Honestly I can't see a way for either format to fully take off when Studio's are fucking around like this. I wonder if Paramount did this to try to kill off the entire hd format blu-ray and hd-dvd. :lol
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This is why I still jerk off manually.
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Also someone at gaf during this announcement said that WB is rumored to also go hd-dvd only from neutral as well, I dunno if the buy it...but after this hell it wouldn't be shocking.
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Shit. To think I was just about to start exclusively buying Blu-Rays (when available). Back to DVD-only for me. I guess this means Criterion probably isn't close to picking a side, either.
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And mondain lectures me about sticking with DVDs
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Hot Fuzz on HD-DVD has great quality, and all the extras lacking from the DVD! HD-DVD rules! Woo!
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Shit. To think I was just about to start exclusively buying Blu-Rays (when available). Back to DVD-only for me.
Same; I had intended to make the leap to HD but now I'm not buying anything more than the two Blu-ray movies I own (300, The Fountain).
REAL next-gen gaming = PlayStation 2
REAL next-gen cinema = upscaled DVD
The future is now!
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Hot Fuzz on HD-DVD has great quality, and all the extras lacking from the DVD! HD-DVD rules! Woo!
True that.
Also, Hd-dvd owners, stay the fuck away from the Children of Men HD-DVD. $30 for that movie was rape.
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A high quality DVD looks almost as nice upscaled imo if you dont spend 1500-2000 dollars an a QUALITY 1080p set. 720p for life yo muhahah
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A high quality DVD looks almost as nice upscaled imo if you dont spend 1500-2000 dollars an a QUALITY 1080p set. 720p for life yo muhahah
It's mostly the blacks that make the difference. Black looks really fuzzy in DVDs, even upscaled, in comparison to HD.
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Sorry to be an idiot but what does all this "upscale" stuff mean?
It's mostly the blacks that make the difference. Black looks really fuzzy in DVDs, even upscaled, in comparison to HD.
Is this OA?
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The public is not ready for a new format. HD/Blue ray is trash.
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Sorry to be an idiot but what does all this "upscale" stuff mean?
It's mostly the blacks that make the difference. Black looks really fuzzy in DVDs, even upscaled, in comparison to HD.
Is this OA?
Black is a color , you nimrod. :P
Upscale means to convert from 480p to 720p using magical algorithms.
I kind of want to sell off my blu-Ray discs now, DVD for life.
The worst thing is, I've been buying fewer movies on DVD cause I've been waiting for the HD wars to finish. On the other hand, this is such bullshit at this point I'm about to write the entire next-gen off and just enjoy regular ol' DVDs again.
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What do you think of the theory that MS is trying to kill off BOTH formats so that their direct download service can swoop in for the kill in another year or two?
That makes as much sense as Paramount going HD-DVD exclusive.
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Sorry to be an idiot but what does all this "upscale" stuff mean?
It's mostly the blacks that make the difference. Black looks really fuzzy in DVDs, even upscaled, in comparison to HD.
Is this OA?
Blacks are definitely the first area that gets shitty when you stretch video too much.
Anyway, I think this is the death knell of the HD wars more than anything else. This is just going to make more people following the shenanigans throw up their hands and say WTF? The better format, the more popular format, and more importantly, the format with the better selling media is losing support? That doesn't make any sense at all. I can see things slowly petering out over the next year or two. HD-DVD and Blu-Ray media sales are abysmal--no one is really buying into either format. There will be a few more head scratching moves like this, and the HD formats will be shot in the foot. Then who the fuck knows what happens.
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Black is a color , you nimrod. :P
BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL
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To make this whole debacle worse, there're lots of really ignorant consumers who think that their PS3s or Hd-dvd players can play both formats. All they know is that their player plays HD movies and it says HD on both boxes.
Anyway, I think this is the death knell of the HD wars more than anything else. This is just going to make more people following the shenanigans throw up their hands and say WTF? The better format, the more popular format, and more importantly, the format with the better selling media is losing support? That doesn't make any sense at all. I can see things slowly petering out over the next year or two. HD-DVD and Blu-Ray media sales are abysmal--no one is really buying into either format. There will be a few more head scratching moves like this, and the HD formats will be shot in the foot. Then who the fuck knows what happens.
Hd-dvd has been better though so far, despite BD's big advantage in storage capacity. Hd-dvd use superior video codecs from the start and even now they have better extra features because Java hasn't been implemented properly in BD players. I luv BD's special coating that makes it harder to scratch though, much prettier than hd-dvd.
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Anyway, I think this is the death knell of the HD wars more than anything else. This is just going to make more people following the shenanigans throw up their hands and say WTF? The better format, the more popular format, and more importantly, the format with the better selling media is losing support? That doesn't make any sense at all. I can see things slowly petering out over the next year or two. HD-DVD and Blu-Ray media sales are abysmal--no one is really buying into either format. There will be a few more head scratching moves like this, and the HD formats will be shot in the foot. Then who the fuck knows what happens.
I'm a die-hard technophile with all the next-gen systems (and a Wii lol), a 7.1 sound setup and an HD wall projector. And I can't be bothered to put up with this shit. And if the unfilthy rich are not willing to try and figure it out, what's in it for the consumer? It's just nonsense balls.
Really, though, blu-Ray was outselling HD-DVD 2:1. And now Paramount sides with HD-DVD? Ludicrous.
I give up! OPPO UBER ALLES
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Fuck sony and their proprietary bullshit. The last thing consumers need is a Blue-Ray by Sony
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Fuck sony and their proprietary bullshit. The last thing consumers need is a Blue-Ray by Sony
:rofl
Thats PhoenixDark levels of "Don't know what I'm talking about but I'll post anyways". Theres a BD consortium that developed the BD spec, its not a Sony proprietary format.
Also, I've got 300 on BD and thats the ONLY High Def movie I'm buying. I'm not buying into anymore disks until all this is sorted out. I'll just use my PS3 upconverting function for DVDs.
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Then who the fuck knows what happens.
Hopefully we just download shit. The problem with that is that it takes such a huge last mile pipe to really make that feasible. :(
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Then who the fuck knows what happens.
Hopefully we just download shit. The problem with that is that it takes such a huge last mile pipe to really make that feasible. :(
It will be good amount of years before we reach itunes like penetration in the market place of downloads with the speed of them for HD quality, it will happen but it's still quite a while off.
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What do you think of the theory that MS is trying to kill off BOTH formats so that their direct download service can swoop in for the kill in another year or two?
That makes as much sense as Paramount going HD-DVD exclusive.
This sounds like the case. There is absolutely no logic in Paramount moving over to HDDVD
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The thing is, I did some comparisons, and on 80% of movies an upscaled DVD looks comparable to HD (at 720p). It's really only super-new, hyper-digital transfers that you see the difference. Anything with grain, DVD ftw.
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/me smacks forehead
Forgot about renting movies (which I haven't in a while)
Netflix and Blockbuster ftw. I'll be renting from now on
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BBV only carries blu-ray
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Fuck sony and their proprietary bullshit. The last thing consumers need is a Blue-Ray by Sony
:rofl
Thats PhoenixDark levels of "Don't know what I'm talking about but I'll post anyways". Theres a BD consortium that developed the BD spec, its not a Sony proprietary format.
Also, I've got 300 on BD and thats the ONLY High Def movie I'm buying. I'm not buying into anymore disks until all this is sorted out. I'll just use my PS3 upconverting function for DVDs.
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I agree with Cheebs. Both formats aren't going anywhere, and DVD will remain king until an actual format evolution occurs. Prettier pictures and more space isn't enticing people; this jump isn't nearly as big as VHS to DVD
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BBV only carries blu-ray
There were HD-DVD and Blu-Ray movies for rent at my local Blockbuster when I visited last weekend.
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THAT'S JUST WHAT I HEARD, TOUGH GUY
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YES VALIDATE MY PURCHASE DO IT LET'S DO IT NOW YES HD DVD AM NOT DEAD FUCK MORANS YES YES YES GOODYGOODNESS PARAMOUNT ON MUH HD DVD'S I AM NO LONGER SAD FUCK YOU BLU GAY
for real real, pretty sweet for hd dvd owners
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Based on today's news, I've come up with a new slogan:
DVD: The Look and Sound of Good EnoughTM
Also, how is this "sweet news" for HD DVD owners? Paramount was neutral before; now they're exclusive. You're not going to get anything you wouldn't have gotten before.
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Based on today's news, I've come up with a new slogan:
DVD: The Look and Sound of Good EnoughTM
Also, how is this "sweet news" for HD DVD owners? Paramount was neutral before; now they're exclusive. You're not going to get anything you wouldn't have gotten before.
Not a hd-dvd owner but when these companies tend to be exclusive they put more effort into their releases for some reason.
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Based on today's news, I've come up with a new slogan:
DVD: The Look and Sound of Good EnoughTM
Also, how is this "sweet news" for HD DVD owners? Paramount was neutral before; now they're exclusive. You're not going to get anything you wouldn't have gotten before.
Not a hd-dvd owner but when these companies tend to be exclusive they put more effort into their releases for some reason.
not even that, i'm a dirty fanboy. validate my purchase!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HD DVD NOT DEAD FUCKERS lalalalalalala
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why can't there be just one fucking universal hd medium? After both of these fail, all the hotshits in video media need to get together and decide on ONE DIRECTION.
When DVD was first released, was there any competion with it (other than VHS lol)? I seriously don't know, someone inform me.
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fuck who wins. just jump in boys. HD!!!!!!!!!
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There was DiVX, Circuit City's abortive physical media/rental hybrid. (The successful codec later stole its name as an in-joke.)
Some studios were DiVX exclusive for 18-24 months, which led to all sorts of awful false starts.
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Isn't HD-DVD "losing" to Blu Ray right now? :-\
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L-O-fucking-L
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Then who the fuck knows what happens.
Hopefully we just download shit. The problem with that is that it takes such a huge last mile pipe to really make that feasible. :(
I wish this would happen, but I have to be honest: I have terabytes of storage at home, and my movie collection, in DVD quality, would not fit on all my hard drive space, let alone HD versions of that same content. Knowing that I have loads more HDD space than most people out there, we're a ways away from a great DVD-quality download solution, let alone an HD-quality one, and it has as much to do with storage requirements as it does bandwidth and networking capabilities.
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Isn't HD-DVD "losing" to Blu Ray right now? :-\
yep
i really think this could all change when standalone players are 199 and less
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I don't, I think next-gen is a wash right now and am firmly in the "HD-DVD and blu-Ray are both failures" camp.
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Isn't HD-DVD "losing" to Blu Ray right now? :-\
yep
i really think this could all change when standalone players are 199 and less
Standalone players at 200 bucks is one thing but when the movies themselves are approaching $40, it really kind of defeats the purpose. The disc prices need to come down as well if they really want these HD formats to take off.
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Isn't HD-DVD "losing" to Blu Ray right now? :-\
yep
i really think this could all change when standalone players are 199 and less
Standalone players at 200 bucks is one thing but when the movies themselves are approaching $40, it really kind of defeats the purpose. The disc prices need to come down as well if they really want these HD formats to take off.
This is true, too. As of right now, the only BD movies I buy are lookers, especially pretty movies or flicks where shit blows up really nice. And I only buy them on release week, on sale. Them prices are no good. . .and I'm a Criterion whore. Will my Crits in HD be costing 50-60 bucks? Fuck that!
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I dont mind paying extra for criterion, becuase you know the movie is quality.
I'm not going to pay $40 for shit like Big momma's house 2 on Blue ray.
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I've never paid more than 29 bucks (still a lil high) for an HD DVD, people that pay 40 dollars for movies like "The Break Up" are fucking stupid and deserve to get ripped off.
I wait til most of my movies are at 20-25 bucks.
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apparently it's paramount and dreamworks:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/20/paramount-dreamworks-dropping-blu-ray-in-favor-of-hd-dvd-exclus/
they say the reason they went exclusive was probably the cheaper HD-DVD players this holiday (~$200) which they probably felt was more worth it then slightly higher sales right now.
that makes sense when you consider something like the bluray version of 300 (missing some extras but sold more then HD-DVD) only made Warner like $4 million. I wouldn't be surprised if Warner went exclusive next.
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But really, does porn look better on Blu-Ray or HD-DVD?
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But really, does porn look better on Blu-Ray or HD-DVD?
Neither, shave burns for the ewwww
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:o
When hi def is TOO high
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no kidding, porn is best enjoyed in 480i or ideally low-bitrate RealVideo streams
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Way to go Paramount, you've just guaranteed that HD-DVD and Blu Ray will become the next SACD and DVD-Audio.
I don't want digital downloads (I'm looking at you, Microsoft), I want one of these damn formats to win, and stuff like this does not help. If HD-DVD were ahead, and Paramount made a move like this, it would be fine, as it would lead to a victor. This will just lead to continued bickering between the two camps, and more consumers avoiding both like the plague.
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might have to pick up an HD-DVD strap on after all.
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I won't get into HD-DVD until Blu Ray goes the way of the Betamax, if it happens. I don't want to encourage multi-format support for movies.
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i'll support both because i'm a masochist and I don't think about long term situations.
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If I were single and didn't think about the future as much, I'd probably own stand alone HD-DVD AND Blu Ray players and buy even more movies than I do now.
But I'm not. I have to limit my purchases somehow, and going out and getting another player to play a whole other set of movies is just too much for me. Hell, if the PS3 didn't have a built in Blu Ray player, I'd have zero interest in the format war.
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Way to go Paramount, you've just guaranteed that HD-DVD and Blu Ray will become the next SACD and DVD-Audio.
I don't want digital downloads (I'm looking at you, Microsoft), I want one of these damn formats to win, and stuff like this does not help. If HD-DVD were ahead, and Paramount made a move like this, it would be fine, as it would lead to a victor. This will just lead to continued bickering between the two camps, and more consumers avoiding both like the plague.
Which is likely why MS did this.
Many suspect MS of trying to sabotage this to bring a end to both for DD. I wouldn't be surprised if they threw moneyhats at WB as well soon, seeing as how WB already has some sort of favoritism with HD-DVD as it is.
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Way to go Paramount, you've just guaranteed that HD-DVD and Blu Ray will become the next SACD and DVD-Audio.
I don't want digital downloads (I'm looking at you, Microsoft), I want one of these damn formats to win, and stuff like this does not help. If HD-DVD were ahead, and Paramount made a move like this, it would be fine, as it would lead to a victor. This will just lead to continued bickering between the two camps, and more consumers avoiding both like the plague.
Which is likely why MS did this.
Many suspect MS of trying to sabotage this to bring a end to both for DD. I wouldn't be surprised if they threw moneyhats at WB as well soon, seeing as how WB already has some sort of favoritism with HD-DVD as it is.
Microsoft has said just as much about digital downloads, actually.
It will be interesting to see what Warner does when BD Java is finalized this Fall. That's been their reasoning for certain titles being delayed (Batman Begins, V for Vendetta, Matrix, Polar Express).
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why are movies being delayed over fucking features, anyway
who gives a shit about picture-in-picture
I want to watch my movies with NICE LOOKING PICTURE and GOOD SOUNDING SOUND
nobody gives a shit about the rest
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Most of the time I don't even watch the special features, unless it's something absolutely brilliant like the feature-length documentary on the Hedwig and the Angry Inch DVD.
I know that the majority of EB thinks I'm an idiot for enjoying Transformers, but I was looking forward to getting it on Blu Ray. Oh well, I guess it's good that I bought my wife Dreamgirls on Blu Ray when I did....
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why are movies being delayed over fucking features, anyway
who gives a shit about picture-in-picture
I want to watch my movies with NICE LOOKING PICTURE and GOOD SOUNDING SOUND
nobody gives a shit about the rest
On GAF, PiP of the director talking about how he took a shit during a particular scene and let a stage hand direct it is all the rage.
I also just want best Sound and Picture quality. Everything else is fluff
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This is true, too. As of right now, the only BD movies I buy are lookers, especially pretty movies or flicks where shit blows up really nice. And I only buy them on release week, on sale. Them prices are no good. . .and I'm a Criterion whore. Will my Crits in HD be costing 50-60 bucks? Fuck that!
Let me mention again. Paying 34.99 for Children of Men am distinguished mentally-challenged. The price difference between a regular DVD and HD movie is ridiculous. Compare the HD price hike (200%) to the price differences (20%) between Xbox/PS2 and PS3/360 games. It's especially hard to justify paying $30 or more for a HD movie when you consider that you can rent a dvd for just 2 to 3 bucks. You have to watch it many times before the cost is justified.
If I were single and didn't think about the future as much, I'd probably own stand alone HD-DVD AND Blu Ray players and buy even more movies than I do now.
But I'm not. I have to limit my purchases somehow, and going out and getting another player to play a whole other set of movies is just too much for me. Hell, if the PS3 didn't have a built in Blu Ray player, I'd have zero interest in the format war.
You can get the HD-DVD add on now at Best Buy for 179.99 along w/7 movies. Includes the new 300 disc. $180 for 7 movies with the look and sound of perfect is a great deal.
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You can get the HD-DVD add on now at Best Buy for 179.99 along w/7 movies. Includes the new 300 disc. $180 for 7 movies with the look and sound of perfect is a great deal.
$180 plus the cost of a 360. I already have 300 on Blu Ray and I'd rather have a stand alone HD-DVD player with HDMI video and audio.
And, like I said, I will only buy a HD-DVD if it ends up winning. At this rate, neither will. :'(
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You can get the HD-DVD add on now at Best Buy for 179.99 along w/7 movies. Includes the new 300 disc. $180 for 7 movies with the look and sound of perfect is a great deal.
$180 plus the cost of a 360. I already have 300 on Blu Ray and I'd rather have a stand alone HD-DVD player with HDMI video and audio.
And, like I said, I will only buy a HD-DVD if it ends up winning. At this rate, neither will. :'(
You don't need a 360, the add-on works on a PC.
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Neither Format is that great, lets wait for the next one. I called this a way off guys. lololol. I lub my dvds :D
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Neither Format is that great, lets wait for the next one. I called this a way off guys. lololol. I lub my dvds :D
you're not jumping in until 2160P?
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Sony couldn't make UMD popular, this am strike 2 total lol
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Sony couldn't make UMD popular, this am strike 2 total lol
Beta was strike 1!
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oh shits! they're OUTTA HERE!
I personally just wish there was some separate group that developed storage mediums so we wouldnt get stuck in these spots. Proprietary is no ones friend.
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oh shits! they're OUTTA HERE!
I personally just wish there was some separate group that developed storage mediums so we wouldnt get stuck in these spots. Proprietary is no ones friend.
You're such a bad umpire, MAF. You gotta keep track of your strike count. And I thought you've been playing MLB 07 religiously. Seriously though, our discussion here is actually really great compared to other forums . It's mostly due to the fact that very few of us are distinguished mentally-challenged fanboys that just blindly back the propaganda of the company that makes our system of choice. Actually, I'm pretty sure that most of us here don't even have systems of choice, which is fortunate for legit gaming discussions.
edit: I thought you were talking about group as in discussion group. :duh Afternoon naps am bad for reading skillz. Anyways, I get your pt, but what I say is true too.
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What about alcohol? Would you consider that to be everyone's friend?
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Im just sayin ive got a huge ass collection of DVDs and people are trying to sell me on one medium or another, neither of which have anything I really want to watch in their format yet cause MOST NEW MOVIES BLOW ASS.
Stocky: Mine, and mine ALONE. lololol
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You can get the HD-DVD add on now at Best Buy for 179.99 along w/7 movies. Includes the new 300 disc. $180 for 7 movies with the look and sound of perfect is a great deal.
$180 plus the cost of a 360. I already have 300 on Blu Ray and I'd rather have a stand alone HD-DVD player with HDMI video and audio.
And, like I said, I will only buy a HD-DVD if it ends up winning. At this rate, neither will. :'(
You don't need a 360, the add-on works on a PC.
Yeah, cause I'd rather watch movies on a PC monitor instead of my awesome 40" 1080p HDTV...
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Media PC, bro! It's why TVC has a fancy $200 keyboard. I still watch movies sometimes on my 1080 24" monitor even though my tv is a 46" 1080p.
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Upscaled PS3 DVD playback FTW.
I only have a 23 inch Samsung HDTV where I game and watch DVDs. Since Sony updated their PS3 firmware DVDs look great on my set, but I'm no videophile either.
I'm no format fanboy, but I boy do I want this "war" to end. It's not good for the consumer and studios. It also hinders adoption of either format. I'll continue to rent Blu-ray via Netfilx but I'm not buying anything in that format until a clear victor is decided. Hopefully, that would be Blu-ray. Not because I'm a fanboy, but because I already have PS3.
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I swear to god, every day I feel better about sticking with standard DVD. More releases, better releases, better prices, and no clusterfuck of a format war.
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this is pretty lame and weird. it'd weird, too, if hd-dvd was outselling brd and all of a sudden paramount would decide to go brd exclusive.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7498486&postcount=10671
manabyte :rofl
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iv tried HDDVD, I have tried blu-ray - really I dont think either one of them are worth it...
its cool if you have this tech as a console add on, but if i spent $$ on one of those standalone players id be kiling someone....its the snake oil of home theatre....and yes I use HDMI and a display that supports 1080P and is 40" +
Letdown total.
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Paramount: oh, how you disappoint me.
Just one more studio that I have to buy DVDs from until they rejoin the better seller of the two, Blu-Ray.
The PS3 upscaling is fucking amazing though (as it's been said before) so it isn't that big of a loss thank god.
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paramount & dreamworks got $150m for the deal.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/21/technology/21disney.html?ei=5088&en=d4e1f285e2f41437&ex=1345348800&adxnnl=1&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&adxnnlx=1187698143-B5wO3L/F+4r1NyAsum87vQ
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Paramount: oh, how you disappoint me.
Just one more studio that I have to buy DVDs from until they rejoin the better seller of the two, Blu-Ray.
The PS3 upscaling is fucking amazing though (as it's been said before) so it isn't that big of a loss thank god.
Except the most likely scenario is both crashing and burning.
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7498486&postcount=10671
manabyte :rofl
That's my ManaByte!
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I just use a stand-alone upscaling dvd player. Ps3 was too little too late lol.
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I just use a stand-alone upscaling dvd player. Ps3 was too little too late lol.
you down with OPPO yeah you know me-oh
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DVDS ALL THE WAY, BRUH
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Do you ever find yourself drinking and watching DVDs alone?
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Okay, going into every thread MAF posts in to give him shit about his drinking is fucking annoying now, Stalky.
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yeah, the stalky-on-maf meme was cute at first, but given that this has become the sum of stalky's interaction around here, it's officially SAD AS FUCK.
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I would stick with upscaled DVD's, but I've already enjoyed my Blu-Ray and HD-DVD's way too much. I'll be getting another PS3 soon, so I'll jump back into Blu-Ray as well. I really don't care which wins and how soon they win either.
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I would stick with upscaled DVD's, but I've already enjoyed my Blu-Ray and HD-DVD's way too much. I'll be getting another PS3 soon, so I'll jump back into Blu-Ray as well. I really don't care which wins and how soon they win either.
You made a profit from selling a used PS3? I bet that guy must have felt like a dumbass after 2 weeks. How many Blu-rays did you get before selling the PS3?
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I didn't make a profit. Sold it for straight 600 and 60 for the games to a friend. I was just really busy and didn't foresee me playing many games for a while. I bought 12 Blu Ray movies and I still own them. So whenever I get my PS3, I can jump right back in.
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Mupes, you still shop at Wal-mart for HD-DVD? I checked it out after you told me about it but it seems that they no longer sell them for much cheaper than Best-buy. Maybe it's different in Texas. Where I live, we don't even have those gigantic Walmarts that also have supermarkets in them.
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Yeah, i get all my new releases at Wal Mart. Usually the HD DVD it's on sale for the first day. Older HD DVD's are expensive as fuck though still. I get it at a Super Wal-Mart though. So I dunno, buddy.
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Ok, not getting it on the 1st day might be the problem. Are their sales always for the 1st day only?
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Ok, not getting it on the 1st day might be the problem. Are their sales always for the 1st day only?
I think most of them are. I usually go there every Tuesday night for new movies so that's just the day I happen to get them on.
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I'll check it out next time there's a HD release I want. I learned my lesson with Children of Men. Never gamble $35 for a HD version of a movie that you might not like that much. CoM wasn't that bad, it's just not worth 35 bucks to be watched in HD.
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I know my limits when I saw The Break Up for 37.99 at Best Buy and 24.99 at Wal Mart lololol Fuck that.
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The two studios may have left themselves wiggle room, however. Paramount’s agreement to use only HD DVD is limited to only 18 months.
Huh.... $150 million for 18 months of exclusivity... I hope it's worth it.
Picked up The Lives of Others on Blu Ray at Fry's today for $25.
:punch :punch :punch :punch :punch Foreign films in HD!! Yeah!! :punch :punch :punch :punch :punch
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I think 18 months is all that'll be necessary to declare a winner. If Blu-Ray continues to outsell HD DVD even with Paramount, then I think it's enough to show that there's no chance for HD DVD.
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I think 18 months is all that'll be necessary to declare a winner. If Blu-Ray continues to outsell HD DVD even with Paramount, then I think it's enough to show that there's no chance for HD DVD.
It sounds like Disney and Fox are going to ramp things up on Blu Ray even more than they had planned to try and beat Paramount's HD-DVD deal.
I really hate all this stuff, and I hate the people supporting format neutrality. Format neutrality just makes HD media even less attractive to the average consumer. I either want Blu Ray to defeat HD-DVD or HD-DVD to defeat Blu Ray. You won't hear me whining if Blu Ray loses, I just want a one format future, please.
In other news, Mana continues to get owned by the mods over at GAF...
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Mana is a queer. I don't care because I own an HD DVD player and I'll be getting a PS3 that can play Blu-Rays. I'm set no matter who wins, so they can duke it out for all I care.
Have Blu-Rays special features been fixed yet? that shit used to piss me off.
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Mana is a queer. I don't care because I own an HD DVD player and I'll be getting a PS3 that can play Blu-Rays. I'm set no matter who wins, so they can duke it out for all I care.
Have Blu-Rays special features been fixed yet? that shit used to piss me off.
BDJ is set to be finished in October just in time for Fox and Disney's big releases.
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Mana is a queer. I don't care because I own an HD DVD player and I'll be getting a PS3 that can play Blu-Rays. I'm set no matter who wins, so they can duke it out for all I care.
Have Blu-Rays special features been fixed yet? that shit used to piss me off.
BDJ is set to be finished in October just in time for Fox and Disney's big releases.
Fucking sweet.
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Mana is a queer. I don't care because I own an HD DVD player and I'll be getting a PS3 that can play Blu-Rays. I'm set no matter who wins, so they can duke it out for all I care.
Have Blu-Rays special features been fixed yet? that shit used to piss me off.
Yeah. I don't care either especially since picture and audio are virtually the same. Blu-ray discs seem to be more durable though with that special coating. Hd-dvds seem to be just as flimsy as Dvds. I think it's good that Hd-dvd is pushing Blu-ray hard though, otherwise the Blu-ray guys will still be too cheap to use the better video codecs.
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Hmmm....
Josh from AVSForum
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OK, here it is. As far as the Spielberg situation goes, it is true that any of his movies on Paramount:
Indiana Jones Trilogy
Saving Private Ryan
War of the Worlds
If released in the next 12 months will be on Blu-ray exclusively or dual-format. She has worked directly with the Spielberg camp for some time now and she has the understanding that Spielberg has the same agreement with his titles on Universal. So this means that when the following films are released in HDM, they will be on both formats if this agreement holds:
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Jurassic Park
Jaws
Now on to the suprising part of the phone call. She mentioned that several Directors, including Michael Bay, Francis Ford Coppola and even James Cameron have voiced their frustration to Paramount with this decision. She said she would not be surprised to see similar agreements reached with Coppola and Cameron as what has been reached with Spielberg.
Does this mean if The Godfather Trilogy and Titanic are released on HDM they will be on both formats? I do not know, but it seems like these Directors are going to put-up a fight.
She also mentioned that today they are getting more complaint calls from talent, producers and executives then yesterday. She said it is a madhouse right now. She also mentioned they recieved thousands of emails from Paramount customers over the past 24 hours voicing their displeasure for this decision.
That is all I have for now. I am going to leave her be for a few days as I can tell she is VERY busy. I may contact her again on Friday.
It will be very intersting to see how all of this falls out. I am starting to have my doubts that Paramount will be HD-DVD exclusive for a year IMO.
~Josh
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james cameron, the king, has spoken. :bow
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Would be hilarious if Paramount somehow backed out. The move was so obviously made to tailor a stalemate, S S S S S S UICIDE K K K K K KAMIKAZE
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lol
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God, I just wish this bullshit could be over so I could buy one format.
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I actually wrote Viacom complaining. I never do that!
http://origin.www.viacom.com/CONTACT/default.aspx
Apparently, feedback from within the industry and consumers has been overwhelmingly and strongly negative (much to their surprise).
Probably too late for them to back out completely, but maybe if enough people bitch they'll look harder for loopholes.
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Would be hilarious if Paramount somehow backed out. The move was so obviously made to tailor a stalemate, S S S S S S UICIDE K K K K K KAMIKAZE
legally they cant back out. The deal is signed and done.
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I actually wrote Viacom complaining. I never do that!
http://origin.www.viacom.com/CONTACT/default.aspx
Apparently, feedback from within the industry and consumers has been overwhelmingly and strongly negative (much to their surprise).
Probably too late for them to back out completely, but maybe if enough people bitch they'll look harder for loopholes.
Don't go down that road, Patel. Pretty soon, you'll be getting people to sign petitions that don't mean anything.