THE BORE
General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Van Cruncheon on September 11, 2007, 12:54:51 AM
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i just bought a new school psp slim and lite (PSP-2001) and i put it to the test versus my old one in load times, screen response visuals. real talk ahead; fanboys and ninthings get out.
i tested the game with: guilty gear slash; monster hunter freedom 2; dynasty warriors vol. 2; sega genesis collection.
first impressions: the new d-pad is LIGHT YEARS better. LIGHT YEARS. i quickly swapped between the two playing guilty gear slash, and while the game does a great job compensating in software for the psp-1000's shit d-pad, the raised d-pad on the 2001 felt ever so much better. i can hit dizzy's bizarre-ass supers motions 100% of the time as opposed to maybe 60%. better yet, i could do the motions much more lightly, rather than pressing down like a fiend. i played it for almost an hour in the airport with little thumb fatigue. AWESOME.
also it is so light it is freaky. the dimensions don't seem much smaller, although it FEELS thinner even as it doesn't immediately LOOK it. man, though, it feels like it weighs next to nothing. this also rocks.
screen response time: gaf lies. it IS improved, although not very much when there's large amount of blacks. dynasty warriors vol. 2 used to be a bit of a blurry mess on the 1000, but it is crystal clear on the 2001. on the other hand, sega genesis collections side scrollers with lots of black swathes like shinobi 3 didn't seem to benefit as much, although there *is* some clear improvement. basically, it seems like significantly better response times when the pixels change color, but not so much going from off->color. contrast ratio is a lot higher; it is easier to view it clearly from the sides and top/bottom. my wife will confirm this; she could even see the difference with her eyes totally rolling. also, NO DEAD PIXELS. i rock!
load times: dynasty warriors vol 2 has load times quartered, and guilty gear slash has no load hitch when going to a new stage/character. sega genesis collection, however, seems to have the same lengthy load times -- there was maybe a trivial second or two difference. booo. games that stream data seem to benefit the most; games that "chunk" whole data blocks seem to not benefit at all.
speakers are MUCH louder and clearer, and the wlan switch is wisely placed on the top. the new springless umd tray is eh. the silver glossy finish does not seem to smudge nearly as bad. lan performance/range seems roughly the same, and there are less web cache errors with the 64 MB RAM.
DOWNSIDES: no protective sleeve included! FUCK YOU SONY. also, no tv-out cables were available for sale. FUCK YOU X2, SONY.
overall, i say: WIN. it is right on the cusp of being worth an upgrade for psp fanboys. it's definitely worth choosing over the old psp if you don't have a psp. for everyone else, keep your old psp -- like i said, it's right on the cusp of being a worthy upgrade, but better pixel off->on responses need to happen.
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I have just witnessed real talk, and it was good.
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Can't wait to buy one when the homebrew gets ironed out.
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Sounds much improved, good job PSP.
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Too many games coming for my meager budget to be spent on a hardware upgrade. Next year though!
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zakly what i thought - and I still cant find the cokkin TV out cables...
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I have been playing mine and carrying it in my pocket with no case. So far no scratches.
I am gonna ruff ride mine without any kind of case and see if it can take it. If not ill just trash it and buy a piano black model and keep it in a case like my old fat PSP.
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It sounds like all PSP owners should upgrade when the slim drops to the DS's price. It's too bad that they didn't increase the screen's response rate more but even the old PSP's ghosting didn't bother me that much. I was able to get used to it 'cause the screen is so small. Your wife's pretty cool for not chewing you out for buying a 2nd PSP.
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Im pretty much sold on this new PSP, thanks for the type up prole
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now that its hacked iam very interested.
TV-OUT ftw
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very good info. this is the kind of thing i want to read.
i think i'm going to buy one; i go to japan the week it comes out and i can buy some fruity color we'll never get, which will probably be enough to push me over the edge.
it seems unlikely to my deeply naive ass that they'll do a more substantive upgrade of this thing.
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The new PSP kicks serious ass as does it's lineup this fall. Fuck Jeanne D'Arc for expecting me to level / collect gems before the last battle, though.
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can it emulate zelda
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Holy shit, finally some real IMPRESSIONS that cut right to the chase and have none of the bullshit! :o
TV out impressions plz
From a post on GAF, I gather the TV output is basically 1:1, so if you have a 720p TV, it'll basically sit in the middle of the screen taking up roughly a quarter of the display. Is this real? If so, I think I just decided against the purchase :/
I'm interested in how it looks with a TV zoom feature enabled.
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Thanks for the writeup, I'm on the fence on whether or not to upgrade... very good to hear that the new one doesn't smudge as much, but it sucks that the ghosting hasn't been completely fixed. After a price drop, I'll bite.
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From a post on GAF, I gather the TV output is basically 1:1, so if you have a 720p TV, it'll basically sit in the middle of the screen taking up roughly a quarter of the display.
not exactly -- the psp would output a 480p signal containing a 480x272 picture, taking up closer to half the display, which your tv would upscale to 720p. i'd actually be pretty interested in this feature if i had a component input to spare :(
edit: oh wait, i was thinking of 480p as 640x480 rather than 854x480 -- it'd be about a third of the screen
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Im holding off on the upgrade. My ol PSP is still in fantastic condition and silver am ugly, it reminds me of those binders girls had in grade school with the sparkle dolphins swimming in the sparkle ocean with sparkles.
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yeah, the silver finish is pretty damn ugly. i'd rather have the white or black one.
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it looks tacky, if it were smaller i'd expect it to be a PSP keychain in a 25 cent vending machine.
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i thought the silver one looked bad in pictures...and I only bought it to tide me over till the piano black unit releases.....
But really in person, the silver unit doesnt look bad at all - if it can stand up to being carried around wth no case, I will likely just keep it.
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ive seen it in person, the packaging was even tacky. It looked like it was packaged by fisher price in some unholy union with the family guy. Granted, the hardware is clearly an improvement, but argh silver.
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Yeah, silver looks bad. Makes it look like a cheap kids' toy (which I guess the PSP kinda is anyway). I have a white unit reserved, but I am thinking about changing to light blue.
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It has some weird sparkle look to it too...maybe more silver flecks...its just weird and looks cheap even if it isnt.
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Yeah, silver looks bad. Makes it look like a cheap kids' toy (which I guess the PSP kinda is anyway). I have a white unit reserved, but I am thinking about changing to light blue.
Does the new silver look the same as the silver that the old PSP had? I saw that in Japan during the summer and it looked really cheap. Silver was originally my 1st choice but I ended up getting blue.
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It has some weird sparkle look to it too...maybe more silver flecks...its just weird and looks cheap even if it isnt.
In person I cant even see the 'sparkles' - it just looks gray.
I think you could see the sparkles more in photographs because of the bright camera flash.
I went into this thinking I REALLY hated the color and just bought it so i could get some time with the new unit. I was pelased to find out the silver wasnt 1/2 as bad as i thought.
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glad to hear the good impressions. i need to sell off one of my psp phats first before i get this.
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What's the price? I could bite at sub-200, I think. Star Ocean DO OVER mmm.
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I got a new PSP
before I open it: is it only currently available in the Family Guy/Daxter/1GB stick megapak
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Yes, there will be a black one down the road, and a Star Wars pack. I think the Daxter pack is silver only.
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hum. oh well.
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PSP :lol
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DJ Max Portable 1+2 > anything on the DS
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Give me a break! A bemani ripoff with a strict j-pop playlist? Come on man, be fucking realistic. At least name like, a Need for Speed game or something.
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Someone want to give me their old PSP?
:lol :lol :lol
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I'll give you mine for some nudes of your wife.
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Would you trade them to Morphix for something else?
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Give me a break! A bemani ripoff with a strict j-pop playlist? Come on man, be fucking realistic. At least name like, a Need for Speed game or something.
k-pop, not j-pop!
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I'll give you mine for some nudes of your wife.
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Yeah, no.
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k-pop, not j-pop!
oh jesus.
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PSP :lol
DS :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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1 ROFL = 10k DSs sold? Seems so.
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1 ROFL = 1 DS CPU mHz, actually
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Keep that sales-age wankery to yourself, corny.
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Prole, post in mah RTS thread plz.
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need of new PSP confirmed.
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Keep that sales-age wankery to yourself, corny.
Dude you freaked out and went emoticon silly, pls keep that shit to OA, T234.
1 ROFL = 1 DS CPU mHz, actually
See, T234? I'm just doing what the cool kid Evilborians do in... every thread.
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Opa-ages is a forum for wankers.
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True, but they're big on the emoticon freakouts.
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I don't like people raggin on the wipeout machine is all.
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mah + plz = St. Corney on his knees(in this thread)
DSfukwat?
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this thread was a nice love-in until Corny showed up :-\
I think everyone in this thread own a PSP and a DS, so let's try to get back to actually talking about the system and its games kkkk
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yes sir.
So is yer deck charged yet? Try out that lovely dpad on a fighter...
Im about to go play it myself - cant decide what ROM.
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I don't like people raggin on the wipeout machine is all.
Great game! Shame about the battery life.
mah + plz = St. Corney on his knees(in this thread)
DSfukwat?
Come on Abrader, every time you make a comment, the EB Peanut Gallery comes in with "LOL you think Lair controls well fagit". Don't be like that.
I think everyone in this thread own a PSP and a DS, so let's try to get back to actually talking about the system and its games kkkk
I almost bought a PSP for Lumines, but that came out for XBLA. Then I was going to get one for Exit, but that's coming soon for XBLA. What are the chances that Crush will be ported to XBLA?
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I went to go buy a PSP at Target after work but they were all sold out. :(
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Wait for the White or Black, Frag. The Silver looks cheap.
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Wait for the White or Black, Frag. The Silver looks cheap.
Eh, if it is functional I really don't care about looks. Also White = Ipod = Apple, ew.
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silver is the new black. it's totally jerkin!
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(http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/8701/psp2000ep5.jpg)
which to get!
if the fruity lavendar looks good in person i might actually go that route. pink is, in fact, too gay. blue is actually my favorite color but it'll really depend on how it looks...
or if the FFCC LE is actually available for a semireasonable price i might get that. hrm!
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Go blue or black. Blue if you are worried about smudges.
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That light blue one on the far right looks pretty nice.
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They don't have the dark blue anymore? That's what I chose for my fatty PSP and I luv it. I'll probably go for the white one now. The new blue is too gay.
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I hate how the old PS2, DS, and now PSP are called fatties. :'(
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i think the best by far is piano black....
however i will accept my silver one till death does it in.
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I need to get the one where smudges are the least apparent. Is that the white one?
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i only notice smudged on the screen of my silver one.
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when does white come out dammit
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I hate how the old PS2, DS, and now PSP are called fatties. :'(
:hyper
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when does white come out dammit
stroke harder and try thinking of boys instead of girls
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:lol
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Picked up my new ceramic white PSP-2000 today. Almost went for black, but the plastic is the same as the PS3's and just ripe for smudges galore. White hides this quite well.
The system may not look very different in pictures, but once you get your hands on a unit, you can tell the difference immediately. The system is thinner and a little more ergonomic. The buttons, d-pad, and even the analog nub feel much, much better now. And the new PSP is also incredibly lightweight-- it's amazing how much lighter Sony was able to make this system than before. The difference is like night and day.
I bought D-Terminal (Component) cables to go along with the system. Everything displays in 480p, and the UMD movie I tried, Ocean's 11, looked about DVD quality on my Bravia. Games don't run in full screen, as we all have heard, but look incredibly sharp on the big screen. The sacrifice is in the games' low-quality textures, jaggies, and the like being far more noticeable. 2D games look fantastic and this isn't an issue, and most of the 3D games I've tried so far look like early PS2 titles. Tekken Dark Resurrection reminded me of a Playstation One Tekken game. If it was running at 480p with 3D backgrounds and better character models, that is. Ridge Racers 2 looked quite good; I saw details in the background popping out that I have never seen before. Metal Gear Portable Ops also looked great, as did Ultimate Ghouls N Ghosts Kai. I'm going to be spending a lot of time messing around with various games over the next few days and taking some pics if anyone wants them.
Also, the system is indeed HACKABLE. I have custom firmware running on the system, and the Neo-Geo and CPS2 emulators work perfectly well on a TV screen. The emulators run in framed windows just like the PSP games though.