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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: MrAngryFace on October 02, 2007, 07:40:54 PM

Title: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 02, 2007, 07:40:54 PM
You scum. I also liked Mario Sunshine.

I saw you jerks trashin this shit in the other thread. Back off. #1
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: Mupepe on October 02, 2007, 07:41:18 PM
Who says it's not?
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 02, 2007, 07:42:04 PM
Drinky, but I agree with him to an extent.  It has definitely aged.  Sunshine is like five times better.

But Galaxy is like the best of Mario evar omg omg
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 02, 2007, 07:43:40 PM
YOU HAVENT EVEN PLAYED GALAXY AHRHHGHGHGHGHGH
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 02, 2007, 07:44:28 PM

But Galaxy is like the best of Mario evar omg omg

ITS NOT EVE OUT YET!


Mario 64 still holds up just fine.  Hell I loved the DS version even, having no problem with controls.

Sunshine has its problems but is still a damn fine game. 
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 02, 2007, 07:45:41 PM
Now New Super Mario Brothers. Thats worth some ire
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 02, 2007, 07:46:49 PM
Now New Super Mario Brothers. Thats worth some ire

its an 8.  Its not bad but its not mario greatness of old. 
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 02, 2007, 08:00:52 PM
Now New Super Mario Brothers. Thats worth some ire

its an 8.  Its not bad but its not mario greatness of old. 

Yup!  Good fun for a handheld game, and that's all it needs to be.

And obviously my Galaxy love is too early, but c'mon.  Is anyone doubting that it'll be the best Wii game so far?
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: Vizzys on October 02, 2007, 08:03:02 PM
NSMB sucked
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 02, 2007, 08:10:37 PM
NSMB sucked


nah
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: Oblivion on October 02, 2007, 08:10:46 PM
This new guy gots some good taste.  8)
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: brawndolicious on October 02, 2007, 08:11:32 PM
that's maf.
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: drohne on October 02, 2007, 08:12:41 PM
mario 64 is a lastingly brilliant game that also killed platformers with its terrible ideas

mario sunshine is trash

new smb is pretty good
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: Oblivion on October 02, 2007, 08:14:52 PM
that's maf.

MAF likes Mario 64?
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: brawndolicious on October 02, 2007, 08:18:30 PM
that's maf.
MAF likes Mario 64?
and sunshine.
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 02, 2007, 08:34:36 PM
mario 64 is a lastingly brilliant game that also killed platformers with its terrible ideas

mario sunshine is trash

new smb is pretty good

what made sunshine trash other than the poopy lolz find the shine sprites?  there's a 120 fucking of them, and some are nigh impossible to find!

I mean, you know, other than that.
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 02, 2007, 08:38:06 PM
mario 64 is a lastingly brilliant game that also killed platformers with its terrible ideas

mario sunshine is trash

new smb is pretty good

what made sunshine trash other than the poopy lolz find the shine sprites?  there's a 120 fucking of them, and some are nigh impossible to find!

I mean, you know, other than that.

level design was to large which made platforming barren.  collect the coins.  lack of different locations. 
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: tiesto on October 02, 2007, 09:03:52 PM
The series topped at Yoshi's Island, the 3D games were bullshit excercises in imprecision, and New Super Mario Bros. was a good attempt to bring the series back to what it should be.

Totally agree with you. I could just never get into the 3D Mario games, although I thought the FLUDD-less platforming stages in Sunshine were fantastic. Galaxy looks like it furthers the "get from point A to point B" aspect of the classic Mario games while removing all the bullshit like fetching coins, rolling watermelons down hills, spraypainting electric blobs, etc.
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: drohne on October 02, 2007, 09:11:05 PM
what made sunshine trash other than the poopy lolz find the shine sprites?  there's a 120 fucking of them, and some are nigh impossible to find!

most of the levels are badly designed. there are half as many as there were in mario 64. and yet, as you mention, there are just as many 'stars' or 'shines.' bad design and extreme repetition are a nasty combination -- ask people what they think of halo's library.

those platforming mini-stages were awesome though

i don't know, maybe i'm hard on it because

a. i quite literally bought a gamecube to play it

b. it was the first indication that ead was no longer in the first flight of game developers

Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: The Sceneman on October 02, 2007, 09:20:02 PM
NSMB is an insult to platformers. Yoshi's Island DS is much better

bubub old skool Mario ure just a nOOb if you cant handle his roots STFU SMB1 is 10 x more playable and was made 22 years ago
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Post by: The Sceneman on October 02, 2007, 09:24:51 PM
Hey at least Shenmue is loaded with humor and weird dialogue. NSMB is like having some weird dude shit on your face
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: Ichirou on October 02, 2007, 09:28:22 PM
Now New Super Mario Brothers. Thats worth some ire

its an 8.  Its not bad but its not mario greatness of old. 

I'd rate it a 7 but it's still an OK game.
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 02, 2007, 09:38:11 PM
Hey at least Shenmue is loaded with humor and weird dialogue. NSMB is like having some weird dude shit on your face

that's not even remotely funny
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: CajoleJuice on October 02, 2007, 09:44:52 PM
NSMB and SMB2 are the only Mario games that I feel are subpar. I pretty much love every single other one (other than those Game Boy ones, but I don't really consider them part of the main Mario series). For whatever reason, I couldn't put down Sunshine when I got it, and the secret levels were fuck awesome.
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 02, 2007, 09:45:27 PM
YOU DO NOT SPEAK ILL OF SMB2
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: CajoleJuice on October 02, 2007, 09:46:41 PM
It's still better than NSMB.
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: Ichirou on October 02, 2007, 09:47:53 PM
I remember when Next Generation magazine named Mario 64 the greatest game of all time...like two months before it came out.  :lol
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 02, 2007, 09:49:10 PM
YOU DO NOT SPEAK ILL OF SMB2

2 sucks balls.  should never been made.  We should have got lost levels instead. 
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 02, 2007, 09:51:41 PM
Mario 64 blew my freaking mind when it came out. Classic game.

Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: CajoleJuice on October 02, 2007, 09:55:28 PM
Mario 64 blew my freaking mind when it came out. Classic game.

Pretty much.

HOLY SHIT IM DOING TRIPLE JUMPS AND BACKFLIPS AND TIP-TOEING AROUND THIS IS AWESOME

HOLY SHIT IM FLYING
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: CajoleJuice on October 02, 2007, 09:57:59 PM
HOLY SHIT I WAS 10

 :elephant

(and never had an SNES  :()
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: Ichirou on October 02, 2007, 09:58:36 PM
The camera in Mario 64 did suck, and flying was awful.
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 02, 2007, 10:17:17 PM
It was like one of the first controllable 3D cameras!!!! 
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: y2kev on October 02, 2007, 10:28:34 PM
HOLY SHIT THE JOYSTICK IS ANALOG

I love that game. Mario 64 is a true classic.
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: The Sceneman on October 02, 2007, 10:32:58 PM
SHENMUE IS FUNNY AND OCARINA OF TIME SUCKS ASS
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 02, 2007, 10:34:05 PM
Mario 64 blew my freaking mind when it came out. Classic game.

Pretty much.

HOLY SHIT IM DOING TRIPLE JUMPS AND BACKFLIPS AND TIP-TOEING AROUND THIS IS AWESOME

HOLY SHIT IM FLYING

HOLY SHIT I CAN'T AFFORD A PC AND WOULD HAVE SEEN BETTER-REALIZED 3D ENVIRONMENTS 2 YEARS EARLIER
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: Ichirou on October 02, 2007, 10:35:52 PM
Uhhh...wtf are you talking about, Drinky?  Mario 64 had Toy Story-quality graphics.
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: The Sceneman on October 02, 2007, 10:37:33 PM
Uhhh...wtf are you talking about, Drinky?  Mario 64 had Toy Story-quality graphics.

OMGWTF joke post Im guessing
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: CajoleJuice on October 02, 2007, 10:43:22 PM
Mario 64 blew my freaking mind when it came out. Classic game.

Pretty much.

HOLY SHIT IM DOING TRIPLE JUMPS AND BACKFLIPS AND TIP-TOEING AROUND THIS IS AWESOME

HOLY SHIT IM FLYING

HOLY SHIT I CAN'T AFFORD A PC AND WOULD HAVE SEEN BETTER-REALIZED 3D ENVIRONMENTS 2 YEARS EARLIER

:lol I refer you to my previous post!
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: y2kev on October 02, 2007, 10:44:57 PM
pc gamerz are so mean
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: Ichirou on October 02, 2007, 10:45:58 PM
pc gamerz are so mean

They look down on us because we're nubs.  :(
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: CajoleJuice on October 02, 2007, 10:46:40 PM
I was actually playing PC games back then, just not 3D ones. Sim City 2000 and C&C Red Alert, bitches!
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: y2kev on October 02, 2007, 10:50:45 PM
I was actually playing PC games back then, just not 3D ones. Sim City 2000 and C&C Red Alert, bitches!

red alert omg
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: CajoleJuice on October 02, 2007, 10:51:32 PM
HELL MARCH

:rock :rock :rock
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 02, 2007, 10:59:02 PM
SMB2 is one of the best
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: Oblivion on October 02, 2007, 11:05:48 PM
I like SMB2, though it's not nearly as good as pretty much all the other 2D Marios.

mario 64 is a lastingly brilliant game that also killed platformers with its terrible ideas

Which terrible ideas? The collecting thing, I suppose might be one. But it's been in previous Mario games too.
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: CajoleJuice on October 02, 2007, 11:10:27 PM
I like SMB2, though it's not nearly as good as pretty much all the other 2D Marios.

Yea, I don't know how it can be "one of the best" when every other console 2D Mario is better.
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 02, 2007, 11:23:47 PM
SMB2 > SMB3
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: Oblivion on October 02, 2007, 11:29:28 PM
SMB2 > SMB3

 :o :o :o
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: drohne on October 02, 2007, 11:32:12 PM
Which terrible ideas? The collecting thing, I suppose might be one. But it's been in previous Mario games too.

generally the shift from linear obstacle courses to multipurpose stages with a variety of tasks to complete. mario 64 was strong enough to keep this flawed structure together, but its success doesn't seem to be repeatable. crash bandicoot obviously wasn't in mario 64's ballpark, but i prefer its descendents to mario 64's -- super magnetic neo, the first sly cooper game
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: The Sceneman on October 02, 2007, 11:37:03 PM
Crash 3 > Mario 64
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: CajoleJuice on October 02, 2007, 11:37:54 PM
Man, now I know why I've never particularly agreed with Drinky's gaming tastes.
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 03, 2007, 12:26:06 AM
smb3 had tiny, gimpy levels
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: Oblivion on October 03, 2007, 12:29:44 AM
smb3 had tiny, gimpy levels

Aw come on, dude. Don't be hate-in. :punch
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 03, 2007, 12:30:11 AM
super mario world is the REAL smb3
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: Oblivion on October 03, 2007, 12:30:48 AM
super mario world is the REAL smb3

:bow :bow
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: Mandark on October 03, 2007, 01:07:12 AM
mario 64 is a lastingly brilliant game that also killed platformers with its terrible ideas

Saves me writing two paragraphs to say the same thing.

Jet Grind Radio is the only other jungle-gym platformer I can think of that I really liked, but that was still built around the urgency rather than exploration or collection.
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 03, 2007, 01:08:20 AM
SMB2 is king f u
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on October 03, 2007, 01:22:22 AM
Quote
super mario world is the REAL smb3

I was with you on Unlimited Saga but now you've lost your mind :maf
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 03, 2007, 01:36:43 AM
Lost levels NES has some bad collision detection problems.  I just slid though a totally erect pianta plant :o
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: tiesto on October 03, 2007, 08:57:50 AM
super mario world is the REAL smb3

:bow :bow :bow
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: Himu on October 03, 2007, 10:15:35 AM
mario 64 isn't trash but it's not nearly as good as people make it out to be.

sunshine is 10 x better
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: cubicle47b on October 03, 2007, 01:23:51 PM
I loved Mario 64 and hated Sunshine.  I lost interest in platformers between those two games, though.  And Sunshine didn't have the benefit of being a new and exciting.
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 03, 2007, 01:31:08 PM
I seriously dont get the fucking hate for SMB2
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: Rman on October 03, 2007, 02:05:11 PM
SMB 3 is my absolute favorite till this day.  Yoshi's Island on SNES is a close second.  I really loved SMB2 and NSMB and I also don't get all the hate those two games get. 

Now....Yoshi's Story was an absolute turd. 
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: MCD on October 03, 2007, 02:17:10 PM
Super Mario World rocked hard, probably the best Mario game ever, along with SM64.

as for Sunshine, it sucked shit.

Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: tiesto on October 03, 2007, 02:45:30 PM
Mine goes like this:

World
3
Yoshi's Island
1
New
2
2j
64
Sunshine
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: Himu on October 03, 2007, 02:53:10 PM
1. yoshi's island
2. mario sunshine
3. world
4. smb2
5. smb1
6. smb3
7. smb2j
8. mario 64
9. New SMB
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 03, 2007, 03:01:25 PM
World
SMB2
Sunshine
SMB3
Yoshi's Island
Mario 64
NSMB
SMB
Lost Levels
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: Oblivion on October 03, 2007, 04:30:17 PM
I seriously dont get the fucking hate for SMB2

Again, I don't hate it, but I didn't like it as much as the other Mario platformers due to the lack of power ups, and didn't particularly care for that frog guy at the end.

Also,

World
3
64
NSMB
YI (if you wanna count it)
Sunshine
2
SMB (maybe)

Edit: And as long as there are more people posting here than in the other Mario thread, watch these videos!

http://www.gamersyde.com/news_5241_en.html
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 03, 2007, 05:37:00 PM
Your all crazy

SMW (first one I owned)
3
64
YI
lost levels
1
shunshine
YI:DS
nsmb
2

Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 03, 2007, 06:23:46 PM
hating SMB2 is criminal
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 03, 2007, 06:49:56 PM
Isn't SMB2 not even a real Mario?  I think SMB3 is much better even if SMB2 can be considered a true Mario game. 
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 03, 2007, 06:51:27 PM
SMB2 is a charming fucking game
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: TVC15 on October 03, 2007, 06:57:20 PM
Mario 64 was great, but it seems kind of quaint by todays standards.

Mario Sunshine was good.  Disappointing in comparison to Mario 64 in that it didn't really bring anything new to the table, but as of today, 2007, it's probably the better game of the two since it's aged well graphically and its stages aren't tiny, which is way too evident when one plays 64 these days.

New Super Mario Brothers was good, but it's a difficult game to objectively judge.  It's a great throwback to the classic games, but it's feeding just about totally off of nostalgia.  If it had any title but New Super Mario Brothers, it would have been ignored, or raped by reviewers, due to its simplicity.
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 03, 2007, 07:19:14 PM
hating SMB2 is criminal

Don't get me wrong, I had fun playing it, its a good 7 to the other mario games being 9s and 10s, its just the worst mario game. 
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 03, 2007, 07:47:36 PM
Its a good 10!
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 03, 2007, 07:48:37 PM
Its a good 10 - 3!

correct! 
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: TVC15 on October 03, 2007, 07:50:16 PM
Father Mike shut your dumb mouth unless you are gonna send me naked pics.
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 03, 2007, 07:52:20 PM
Father Mike shut your dumb mouth unless you are gonna send me naked pics.

 >:(
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: Ichirou on October 03, 2007, 09:36:02 PM
Pretty, but vacant.
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: Polari on October 03, 2007, 10:23:40 PM
64 is OK, but it's probably aged the worst out of all the classic Mario games.

Sunshine is still unbelievably awesome.
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: Oblivion on October 03, 2007, 11:27:55 PM
Pretty, but vacant.

You talking about Galaxy?
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: Ichirou on October 04, 2007, 12:37:53 AM
Pretty, but vacant.

You talking about Galaxy?

Yup.
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 04, 2007, 07:16:23 AM
Pretty, but vacant.

You talking about Galaxy?

Yup.

NO SHUP

Watch that prologue video, it's omg
Title: Re: Mario 64 WAS great.
Post by: DJ_Tet on October 04, 2007, 09:13:05 AM
 :lol

SMB2 is fucking awesome

SMB3 is overrated and colorless, but imaginative, very unfocused

SMW is the best "Mario" game

Yoshi's Island is the best game in the series and the definitive 2-d platformer ever created



NSMB must suck cause I was looking forward to it so long and I've played like 4 levels.


edit:  I'm looking forward to playing Sunshine on my new tv, it looked a meshy mess on my old tv and I had to stop playing
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Post by: bud on October 04, 2007, 09:59:10 AM
super mario land for the gb was awesome, too. i could finish that game in ±15 minutes and the ending theme was so good.