THE BORE
General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Ruzbeh on October 05, 2007, 09:51:56 PM
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Xbox 360 :
-is too expensive
-features an archaic controller
But perhaps more importantly, the hardware can breakdown. I don't want that kind of shit. When in GODS NAME will they change the fucking hardware so it will be reliable? It's disgraceful. I fucking hate Microsoft but I want to play games Project Gotham Racing 4 and I want to give BioShock and Halo 3 a go.
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1-They already added that 2nd heatsink to improve reliability.
2- 65nm is on the way (probably with the arcade SKU/Forza 2+Mavel Ultimate Alliance elite or premium bundle).
3- if it ever gives you the 3 RROD, you can fix it yourself for less than 10$ (remove the fucking xclamp)
4- you can always wait for a further price drop.
5- 360 controller is great, waggle is not needed bitch.
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5- 360 controller is great, waggle is not needed bitch.
Bitches, please.
Wii control is everything.
If you had a first person shooter where you could use the Xbox 360 controller and the Wii controller, the players using the Wii controllers would be unstoppable. That's how good it is.
But i am too lazy to point at the screen.
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5- 360 controller is great, waggle is not needed bitch.
Bitches, please.
Wii control is everything.
If you had a first person shooter where you could use the Xbox 360 controller and the Wii controller, the players using the Wii controllers would be unstoppable. That's how good it is.
Someone using a mouse and keyboard would own both of them.
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this isn't a dilemma -- it's a matter of semantics. wanting to play xbox 360 games is tantamount to wanting an xbox 360. so buy one. your hysterical overpraise of the wii controller is just a piece of wishful thinking that nobody believes in -- not even you -- and i'll agree to overlook it as soon as you buy a real console
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Someone using a mouse and keyboard would own both of them.
it depends, for a third person game waggle could work better. KB/M is definitely better for FPS though. I really don't get what could make somebody say Wii should be there real only next-gen system RIGHT NOW, especially if they admit there's 360 games they want.
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-features an archaic controller
:lol :lol :lol
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-features an archaic controller
:lol :lol :lol
QFT
should be "features best controller ever"
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Xbox 360 :
-is too expensive
-features an archaic controller
But perhaps more importantly, the hardware can breakdown. I don't want that kind of shit. When in GODS NAME will they change the fucking hardware so it will be reliable? It's disgraceful. I fucking hate Microsoft but I want to play games Project Gotham Racing 4 and I want to give BioShock and Halo 3 a go.
You should buy a launch x360
mine works fine
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-features an archaic controller
:lol :lol :lol
QFT
should be "features best controller ever"
Except for shit D-pad
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I didn't realize how godawful the d-pad is until I played Pac-Man CE. Holy shit.
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I was forever selecting the wrong spell or ability in Oblivion thanks to that janky shit
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=QcXPzzj1uAQ
this should help at least a little with the dpad.
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The D-pad trick does work, it takes about 15 minutes but it's infinitely better.
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this thread makes me wanna eat some cheerio-s
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it's the color scheme?
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Where is BishopTL when you need him?
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ruzbeh, let me. I'll use my tongue lightly. flick flick
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then buy a high-end pc.
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is a 300$ purchase that mind-shattering to you?
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is a 300$ purchase that mind-shattering to you?
HOW'S $600 SOUND?! LOLOLOLOL
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is a 300$ purchase that mind-shattering to you?
Considering how much I'll use it? Yes. And it's not $300. The core pack doesn't come with any saving options, so you're forced to buy a $60 memory card. WTF?
Goddamn, Microsoft is incompetent. All they had to do was decrease the power of the Xbox 360 just by a little bit and it automatically would be cheaper, more reliable and just better overal.
the new core coming out at the end of this month will be 279 with a 256 mb memory card. no excuse now fuck face. *muah!*
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$279 is still a lot.
get a job :)
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didn't he buy a wii before it came out in europe from someone overseas? that had to be at least $300
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the only fps that uses the wii remote properly is MP3. even that requires a lock-on feature to increase accuracy. yet it still isn't better than the "archaic" dual analog shooter called halo 3. go figure. gameplay > control scheme.
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Ruzbeh, you can always wait for a better deal you know, no harm in doing that.
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$279 is still a lot.
And how much did you pay for your Gamecube Wii? :lol
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I haven't given up on the WII but accuracy is not one of the Wiimote's strengths. Also, aiming with your arm is much more tiring than aiming with your thumb.
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You have no idea what you're talking about. The RE4 port had to be adjusted because the incredible accuracy of the pointer made the game too easy.
Pointer > Dual analog, Pointer gameplay > Dual analog gameplay
Uh, no. I bought a German Wii because they were out of stock in the Netherlands.
It cost me about 280 euros which is well over $300.
so a 360 shouldn't be too much for you.
and RE4 was more accurate cause of the huge cursor on the screen. in the other version you had a narrow laser sight and had to aim carefully while you could snipe somebody with a TMP from far away when you could barely see their heads in the wii version. I liked that version more since it WAS too easy but it was not more accurate.
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It has nothing to do with the huge cursor. I can aim extremely quickly at different targets. There was this one particular, awesome moment I had when I was shooting down two of those rabid dogs in Salazar's maze at the Castle it was BOOM BOOM and I was completely stunned at how fast I aimed from one dog at the left of the screen to the other dog on the right of the screen. I've played plenty of shooting games with analog sticks and if you think you can do what you can do with the pointer, with analog sticks, you're an idiot.
I agree with the aiming faster thing, that's why I didn't like RE4 on gamecube. However what I'm saying is that since it turns red and rumbles a little when you make the cursor go over an enemy, you could shoot the people at catapults with a TMP pretty easily. It basically makes the rifle useless unless you're playing on pro difficulty and need to take out the regenerators.
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I haven't given up on the WII but accuracy is not one of the Wiimote's strengths. Also, aiming with your arm is much more tiring than aiming with your thumb.
That's a joke, right?
And besides, you aim with your wrist, not your arm.
It seems I am the only one who really plays the Wii. Or maybe I just have an incredible hand-eye coordination that makes me own with a pointer.
No. It's easier to make quick movements with the WII-mote but it's not as accurate as an analog stick. I'm pretty many others have mentioned it before. I guess it's possible for someone to get more accurate with the Wii-mote but it's not that easy.
Also, I can't seem to just move my wrist when I'm playing a Wii game. Perhaps, you really know how to play it better. I enjoyed playing Zelda on my WII but it was definitely more tiring to play than a normal joypad game. I didn't find the RE4 experience much better with the Wii-mote either although I still liked the game. While the aiming is more fun, the QTEs were even worse on the WIi.
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really? I liked the QTEs a lot more on Wii. I usually sit a little to the side so that I can rest my elbow more easily and it makes it easier to flick my wrist.
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All the guns have basically unlimited range. I got the red 9 early in the game so I had no need for a rifle's power. That was the only real "downgrade" the game got I guess.
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I guess I am particularly skilled at using the pointer. It's the reason I love it so much. It just feels good using it. As for the RE4 QTEs, I felt some parts where you had to waggle were a stepdown from pressing a button or whatever, but I never played GC or PS2 RE4 versions. It doesn't seem to register the waggle as fast as it can register button presses, which gave me frustrations in some parts of the game. :-\
But RE4 Wii edition is a crappy port if you ask me. But still awesome.
But you think that it's a software, not hardware problem, right? Since you think that the Wiimote is better than a joypad.
Resident Evil 4 had the potential to be truly something if Capcom actually cared. But they didn't.
It still got rated as a AAA+ game though. It also had great sales for a GC rehash.
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I never had a mistake making motion controls in the QTEs.
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do gamers even own wiis
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do gamers even own wiis
I'm not even acquaintances with anyone that has a Wii, unless tiesto counts.
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tvc owns a wii, but he acts embarrassed about it, like we were all at jesus camp and we found out he got an abortion
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:lol
Honestly, the only console that any of my friends own is 360. It's like a snowball rolling down hill. Since a few got a 360, more want a 360 to play with them on Live, and so on...
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yesterday I convinced a friend who was set on buying a Wii to get a 360 instead
let's all do this sort of good action every week: show the light to a potential Wii buyer by convincing him to buy a better system
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yeah, demi and I own wii's and we have higher gamerscores than you.
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I'm buying Eel's Wii, I need to pick up chicks (tm Cornelius)
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yeah, demi and I own wii's and we have higher gamerscores than you.
yea, but I'm better than you at COD4
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Ruzbeh, you're fucking high and distinguished mentally-challenged. As a big fan of Metroid Prime 3, I can easily say that although the Wii pointer is fine, it is limited by speed. You learn to adjust so it's not an issue, but the Wiimote can not track as fast as your arm can move, whereas this is simply not an issue with an analogue stick. The Wiimote loses any claimed accuracy improvement (whether there is one or not) due to the major loss of speed.
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also, if it is speed and accuracy he champions, he needs to BUY A FUCK AWESOME GAMING PC and/or LAPTOP
mouse/kb crushes all for speed and accuracy; waggle and dual analog are the ghetto
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I beat you to that, Drinky.
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hey tvc, have you installed any games on the xps yet
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I beat you to that, Drinky.
:bow :bow :bow
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Ruzbeh, you're fucking high and distinguished mentally-challenged. As a big fan of Metroid Prime 3, I can easily say that although the Wii pointer is fine, it is limited by speed. You learn to adjust so it's not an issue, but the Wiimote can not track as fast as your arm can move, whereas this is simply not an issue with an analogue stick. The Wiimote loses any claimed accuracy improvement (whether there is one or not) due to the major loss of speed.
I think you're referring to turning speed.
No, I am referring to the tracking speed. In any game, not just MP3, the Wiimote cannot track the Wiimote pointer as fast as your wrist can move. You quickly learn to adjust, and it works fine once you do, but it is a limitation, and it was why, at first purchase, I was disappointed with the Wii. Once I got passed that, it was no issue. It's definitely the one major improvement that Nintendo needs to make to the technology (aside from giving the Wiimote non-distinguished mentally-challenged button placement).
I also find it funny that the Wii gets such high praise when it has as many great games as I do dicks. Kind of difficult to accept that the controller is the best ever when there are so few worthwhile games available right now.
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yea, but I'm better than you at COD4
do you have rainbow 6 vegas? do you want to be owned? huh?! huh?!
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what is the wii's potential? all i see is a gamecube with a non-traditional controller slash substandard pointing device.
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sports games, minigames, and nintendo exclusives basically.
most normal wii fans would probably just want one cause it's bound to get some ports of japanese games.
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what is the wii's potential? all i see is a gamecube with a non-traditional controller slash substandard pointing device.
The potential of making as much money as possible with a prototype, then introducing the real Wii.
AKA a gimped 360 of some sort with Wiimote2.
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Huh? Do you have this with everything and not just Metroid Prime 3? Because I don't have that issue... it definately reacts as soon as I point.
Yup, and everyone that isn't completely brainwashed would tell you it is there, too, to an extent.
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I don't mind this new direction, as long as you give me up to date graphics.
is that really hard to ask for?
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And you gotta understand, i want my Nintendo games in better graphics.
and i am pretty sure Nintendo, one of the richest companies in Japan can make something better graphically than the Wii at the same price.
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I have a much, much better idea for you:
Don't get a PS2. Sell that Wii and get yourself a 360. You'll be so much happier and embarrassed that you made this thread in the first place. :P
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I have a much, much better idea for you:
Don't get a PS2. Sell that Wii and get yourself a 360. You'll be so much happier and embarrassed that you made this thread in the first place. :P
Truth. It doesn't really matter how well the Wiimote works when there're so few good games to play anyway.
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Not only have I predicted its success, but I have predicted that the Wii will be home to some of the best single-player and multi-player experiences ever.
What is "some" to you? 5%?
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I'm talking about 5% for this gen.
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AHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHA
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I'd say more like 50%.
:tbslol
This is the perfect moment for me to post one of those silly lol gifs for the 1st time.
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Lyte edge, apparently you are not familiar with me since I'm sort of new to this forum, but I was the one who saw the Wii's success coming all the way back in 2005. I have already predicted that it will become the best-selling console of all time. I am also a huge Nintendo fan. I love Nintendo. I love Nintendo's games. Telling me to sell my Wii to get a system that has a 25% of breaking down on me is amusing.
Not only have I predicted its success, but I have predicted that the Wii will be home to some of the best single-player and multi-player experiences ever.
Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize you were THE ONE. ::)
I'll take a system with a 25% chance of breaking down (which can then be repaired free of charge) and an awesome library of games over...that.
The Wii is truly amazing. Soon, you will all realize what I have already realized two years ago.
So, yeah.
What kind of deluded fanboy decides a year before a console launch that the system is going to be "amazing?"
Look buddy, I have a Wii too. I have every system out, that's how I roll. I play everything and don't care what company's name is on the plastic box with wires and circuits and shit inside as long as the games are good. Wii has not delivered. When the best game on the system is a port of Resident Evil 4, something is wrong.
Laugh all you want.
I'm laughing more at you not having played all the amazing games released for the Playstation, Playstation 2, Xbox, and Xbox 360 more than anything else. You missed out on way too much awesome shit and it's no wonder you're so into the Wii if you've only stuck with Nintendo all this time. It's sad. :'(
But so far... I've been correct at every turn into this generation. 8)
Don't say shit like this. It makes you sound like an arrogant nerd-prick.
Regardless of what you think of my views, you gotta agree with me when I say the gaming industry is heading into an awesome, awesome direction.
I fucking hate the movie industry-like high budget approach to games.
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lyte, you are wasting your time.
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Ruzbeh, if you really aren't a fanboy, then you've done an awful job of proving the opposite in this thread.
lyte, you are wasting your time.
Yeah.
I just don't get people who won't try everything. His loss.
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Ok, your sales predictions are coming true, but so what? Where are the games? I don't see the potential when I look at the list of future releases for the WII. I'm a Nintendo fan too but I'm not going to celebrate the WII's popularity when it's not helping me get more good games.
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Don't do that shit, McDragon. Don't protray me as some stupid fanboy. Everything I say is based purely on logic, not fanboy bullshit.
Why do you think my predictions have been so spot-on? Because they are based on logic, not silly fanboy dreams. I would have been glad if Wii sold only a little more than Gamecube. But according to me and my GENIUS MIND, that's not how it's gonna play out! SORRY!
Logic dictates that the Wii has no games. What have you played in the last month? Hmm
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Cool, you keep on waiting and playing nothing, I'll get back to some awesome gaming time.
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You bought a Wii before a PS2.
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You bought a Wii before a PS2.
TIME FOR A NEW TAG! :o
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Ruzbeh, i respect your opinion, logic or whatever you wanna call it.
but as a gamer, you should be enjoying games instead of waiting for the Wii and it's awesome new direction of unlimited potential.
i suggest you grab yourself a PS2 and enjoy all the great games you missed thanks to that logic of yours.
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PD may not own a PS2, but he doesn't own a Wii either.
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Ok, your sales predictions are coming true, but so what? Where are the games? I don't see the potential when I look at the list of future releases for the WII. I'm a Nintendo fan too but I'm not going to celebrate the WII's popularity when it's not helping me get more good games.
As for the development shift I'm talking about, there have been reports of that happening. There is a lot that is being developed for the Wii that is not currently announced. We will only see as we move through the year 2008. But I agree with your concerns. I have a Wii for almost a year now and it has been picking up far too much dust. The only Wii game I seem to be often playing is the waiting game, which is ridiculous. But even then, I understand what is headed to this system. You have to believe when I say that, Smooth.
Believe.
You're sounding just like the GAF fans of the PS3 which you keep laughing at. Wait until 2008 for the greatest lineup ever, blah, blah...
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Wow, Ruzbeh is really deluded.
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Dude, you've missed out on years of gaming on the PSX and PS2. I just feel sorry for you. I don't care about future predictions, I care about playing games in the present time, which is the time we are living in.
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PSX sucked? Yup, totally deluded.
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Oh wow
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You are one extremely odd Nintendo lovin' manchild.
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PSX did suck. At least compared to PC gaming during that era. You're not a true gamer if you don't own a PS2 though. PS2's hardware was crap but it was a software juggernaut.
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PS2's hardware was crap but it was a software juggernaut.
And it's still going strong. It's the machine that just won't die.
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And it's still going strong. It's the machine that just won't die.
It was basically the same story with PSX, it sold strongly even after PS2 was introduced.
Thanks for that insight, Captain Obvious.
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probably most nintendo fans value their corporate loyalties over ACTUAL GAMES TO PLAY, but they've usually got enough sense to lie about it
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ruzbeh, you really aren't joking, are you? i find it hard to believe you're being serious.
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The power of Autism, folks
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I think he's more trying to troll than anything.
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well this thread is pretty senseless.
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Ruzghey is just another dickwad in the long line of deluded attention whores on the internet. "I want to breathe, but I can't stand oxygen!".
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just assume that there is a possibility your 360 will break. but apparently the new x360 arcade units and halo 3 edition have the new falcon chip.
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Ruzghey... can you please just fucking end yourself already? You are a waste of bandwidth.
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:lol
that was quick.
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When do the reliable Xbox 360s go on sale? Those 'Falcon' units or some such.
Look for Xbox 360 bundles (Forza2/Marvel UA in US or COD4/VP in Euro i believe), these should be more reliable.
Also, are there any price drops on the horizon?
There should be one, if you are not in a hurry, why not wait a little more?
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yeah, I think price drops might be in the next couple months. great system, you don't even need gold if you don't want it.