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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: etiolate on October 19, 2007, 05:45:19 AM

Title: My problem with the graphical appearance of next gen
Post by: etiolate on October 19, 2007, 05:45:19 AM
Everything looks like it has been made from the same material.  You have dirt, brick, tile, plastic, metal and glass... and it all looks like it was made from the same materials, a semi glossy clay.  This is evident in not just Halo 3, but other games as well.

Here is Haze:
(http://images.gamersyde.com/gallery/public/6761/1081_0001.jpg)
(http://images.gamersyde.com/gallery/public/6761/1081_0004.jpg)

Here is uncharted:
(http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/815/815969/uncharted-drakes-fortune-20070827034550061.jpg)
His shirt and the arches could both be rock.  It's just one is lighter and shaped like a shirt.

Halo 3
(http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/821/821912/halo-3-20070923025042400.jpg)
The rock in the background and the helmets might as well be color palette switches.

I could put more Halo 3 images as well, but most are pretty familiar with what that looks like. The most offending is one halo 3 water image where a player is stepping in it and it doesn't look like he's stepping in actual water but some soft metallic liquid. Everything seems to be from the same material, and I am really noticing this within this gen of gaming. Recolor grass and its ground, recolor metal and its grass. Dirt doesn't seem to be a different material from metal.  It's just colored differently. In 5 years everything will look like glossy clay to us. They need to figure out, or hire someone who can figure out how to make the individual elements seem different.

Title: Re: My problem with the graphical appearance of next gen
Post by: TVC15 on October 19, 2007, 05:54:44 AM
To be fair, Halo 3 isn't really an envelope pushing game (must. . .not. . .say. . .mean things. . .about. . .Halo), Haze looks like the ultrageneric bastard child of Halo and FarCry, and I'mnot quite sure that is a very good screenshot of Uncharted.  It looks great in motion.

My biggest problem with next gen visuals is that people always seem to go for realistic looks instead of creative ones.
Title: Re: My problem with the graphical appearance of next gen
Post by: etiolate on October 19, 2007, 05:58:59 AM
Well I am not sure this an issue of how hard they are pushing the hardware, but more the choices they are making. As things get more detailed, it will be more obvious what you are doing and are NOT doing.  They just are not doing anything in terms of thought to what materials are like besides shallow shape and color.

Though realism is why this hurts them.  The new Doublefine game looks like clay, but thats the artistic style. These examples are of realism that has no realistic differences in material.
Title: Re: My problem with the graphical appearance of next gen
Post by: brawndolicious on October 19, 2007, 06:08:57 AM
it depends on the game.  Assassin's Creed has AWESOME looking skin, clothes, stone, etc.  also helps that it has some of the best animation ever.

look at Mass Effect's faces, even the aliens are completely convincing.
Title: Re: My problem with the graphical appearance of next gen
Post by: bud on October 19, 2007, 07:01:32 AM

look at Mass Effect's faces, even the aliens are completely convincing.


 :lol

all the faces in that game lack any expression. also, the va in that is a turd.
Title: Re: My problem with the graphical appearance of next gen
Post by: Beezy on October 19, 2007, 07:47:28 AM
Yeah, everything looks like it's plastic. Too many next gen games are like this.
Title: Re: My problem with the graphical appearance of next gen
Post by: MCD on October 19, 2007, 07:54:26 AM
Filters are the best way to go, to hide this mess.

look at assassin's creed or MGS4 or LP, sure some folk don't like filters but they really help in my own opinion.



Title: Re: My problem with the graphical appearance of next gen
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 19, 2007, 11:36:17 AM
lol nerds. play some fuckin games and quit whining
Title: Re: My problem with the graphical appearance of next gen
Post by: drohne on October 19, 2007, 11:43:59 AM
those grapes are probably sour anyway
Title: Re: My problem with the graphical appearance of next gen
Post by: CajoleJuice on October 19, 2007, 11:49:35 AM
lol nerds. play some fuckin games and quit whining

etiolate only has a wii
Title: Re: My problem with the graphical appearance of next gen
Post by: brawndolicious on October 19, 2007, 12:13:30 PM
:lol
all the faces in that game lack any expression. also, the va in that is a turd.
what's wrong with that game? the lighting and animations look really good and it's amazing how much dialog there is.
Title: Re: My problem with the graphical appearance of next gen
Post by: y2kev on October 19, 2007, 12:20:45 PM
lol nerds. play some fuckin games and quit whining

etiolate only has a wii
well then cast some votes