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Title: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: TVC15 on October 27, 2007, 01:37:50 AM
And no, I don't mean they owe me a refund for selling me a set for their piece of junk system that doesn't even do HD.

While setting up my Wii's cable's the other night, I had to remove my 360 cables in order to keep things neat.  Now, my 360 cables no longer work.  I either tugged on them too hard (year's of jerking off with too hard of a grip has left me with semi-distinguished mentally-challenged fellow strength) or being in proximity to Ninteno brand shit made them shit out on me.

Fuck Nintendo. 
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: MCD on October 27, 2007, 01:52:17 AM
Try this:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/911059
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: Synbios459 on October 27, 2007, 01:56:24 AM
But....but graphics don't matter, gameplay does!
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: TVC15 on October 27, 2007, 02:00:26 AM
But....but graphics don't matter, gameplay does!

Zack and Wiki and Ratchet and Clank prove this wrong.  Zack and Wiki is a fun, inventive, and new game featuring all new gameplay but terrible visuals (all Wii's fault, Capcom did their job fine).  However, I find all my time going to Ratchet and Clank, a mediocre (well, mediocre for me since I have played all of these R&C games) game with eye jizzing graphics.  So, Wii supporters are all wrong, as usual.  Great graphics do make up for shaky gameplay, and good gameplay does not make up for abysmal visuals.
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: Synbios459 on October 27, 2007, 02:06:06 AM
But....but graphics don't matter, gameplay does!

Zack and Wiki and Ratchet and Clank prove this wrong.  Zack and Wiki is a fun, inventive, and new game featuring all new gameplay but terrible visuals (all Wii's fault, Capcom did their job fine).  However, I find all my time going to Ratchet and Clank, a mediocre (well, mediocre for me since I have played all of these R&C games) game with eye jizzing graphics.  So, Wii supporters are all wrong, as usual.  Great graphics do make up for shaky gameplay, and good gameplay does not make up for abysmal visuals.
lol I know, honestly, what I hate the most is lack of surround sound and that friend code shit.
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 27, 2007, 02:06:37 AM
argh, tvc, I hope youre trolling
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: TVC15 on October 27, 2007, 02:09:44 AM
God smiled on me and I found my original 360 component cables, so Nintendo is off the hook.  At least until Mario Galaxy releases and it looks terrible.
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: Synbios459 on October 27, 2007, 02:09:49 AM
Of course games like LOLair show no amount of good graphics can make up for shitty gameplay. I really hate how Nintendo thinks that just because devs won't focus on good visuals means they'll focus on making good gameplay, which is simply not true most of the time. Look at the NES, they had archaic 8 bit graphics put the amount of shit that went to it was almost atari 2600 level bad.
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: MCD on October 27, 2007, 02:11:54 AM
God smiled on me and I found my original 360 component cables, so Nintendo is off the hook.  At least until Mario Galaxy releases and it looks terrible.

Wrong, it looks like a 360 game!

Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 27, 2007, 02:12:40 AM
mario galaxy doesn't even remotely resemble a 360 game, although it looks good for what it is.
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: Synbios459 on October 27, 2007, 02:13:28 AM
Hey TVC are you really looking forward to SMG? I'm on the fence, it looks decent, but I keep wishing it was more like SM64, the videos seem as if they could make someone dizzy. Hiroshi Yamauchi is just a crazy old Japanese nut, and Shigeru Miyamoto is no goddamn genius fuck him in the butt!
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 27, 2007, 02:14:01 AM
god bless whoever lepered synbios
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: TVC15 on October 27, 2007, 02:14:34 AM
God smiled on me and I found my original 360 component cables, so Nintendo is off the hook.  At least until Mario Galaxy releases and it looks terrible.

Wrong, it looks like a 360 game!



Maybe it looks like a 360 game in the postage stamp-sized screenshots they release.  Let's see what it looks like on a non-ghetto TV.
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: MCD on October 27, 2007, 02:15:55 AM
I was joking you know.

Amir0x said that, not me!

Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 27, 2007, 02:16:45 AM
gaf has rendered my sarcasm detector broken
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: TVC15 on October 27, 2007, 02:18:50 AM
I was joking you know.

Amir0x said that, not me!



That is why Amirox is gonna get CALIGULA'd.
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 27, 2007, 02:18:51 AM
I find whiteman's HD elitism unsexy.  I'm losing my boner here  :-\
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: TVC15 on October 27, 2007, 02:22:41 AM
I find whiteman's HD elitism unsexy.  I'm losing my boner here  :-\

HD elitism?  Have you seen a Wii game on a big screen? 

Want a close approximation of what it is similar to?  Emulate a PS1 game on an LCD fixed-pixel display.  It will share all the terrible aspects.  It will be blurry, it will be especially jaggy, and it will have lots of shimmering.

I like HD, but it's not elitism to say that Wii games look terrible on modern displays.  It's a fact that any non-koolaided gamer will cop to.
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 27, 2007, 02:23:47 AM
i didn't particularly enjoy playing my ps2 on my hdtv, which is why i keep an sdtv handy! wii image quality is barely an increase over that of the ps2, thanks to the cheap output filter, so wii display on a hd screen is YIKES
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 27, 2007, 02:23:57 AM
I have not as I'm dirt poor and only own sdtvs, which is what you should be playing a wii on if its such a problem. 
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: TVC15 on October 27, 2007, 02:28:03 AM
Why should I have to play a modern game system on an old television?  I'll probably end up doing that in the end, but I really do want to see how awful Mario looks on the TV. 

Nintendo made a game system for 2006+, and it doesn't meet the minimum requirements.  Why not just play the PSX on an old 13 inch black and white TV!  That would make many of its visual shortcomings go away, too. 
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 27, 2007, 02:28:57 AM
the wii isn't a modern game system, period. waggle aside -- which is $6 of radio shack parts -- it is 2001-era technology on a 2005 die. fab size aside, its internals were designed to compete with the ps2 on an sdtv, not the ps3/360, and you wonder why i mock it!
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: MCD on October 27, 2007, 02:30:31 AM
I remember playing Onimusha 4 (PS2) on my HDTV with component, it was blurry as hell, really bad, but i lived with it and beat the game in the end anyway.

what's funny is that i wanted to see how good Onimusha 2 looks on this HDTV, and to my surprise, it looked so much better than 4.

Oni2 = pre-rendered, Oni4 = real time.

is this the reason?

and sorry for going kinda off topic.

Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 27, 2007, 02:31:09 AM
nintendo, on a big screen? didn't mario the movie teach you anything?
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 27, 2007, 02:32:11 AM
pre-rendered visuals naturally include whatever AA method was used during render
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: MCD on October 27, 2007, 02:39:13 AM
Oh, so that's why.

thanks Professor.

Nintendo should really use this method to hide graphical flaws thanks to their system.

Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 27, 2007, 02:40:50 AM


Nintendo should really use this method to hide graphical flaws thanks to their system.



ya.  Mario galaxies would work wonderfully with everything prerendered.  I can imagine the game play now....
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 27, 2007, 02:41:47 AM


Nintendo should really use this method to hide graphical flaws thanks to their system.



ya.  Mario galaxies would work wonderfully with everything prerendered.  I can imagine the game play now....

yes, it would hafta be 2D and it would ROCK YOUR YOKEL FACE
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 27, 2007, 02:44:30 AM


Nintendo should really use this method to hide graphical flaws thanks to their system.



ya.  Mario galaxies would work wonderfully with everything prerendered.  I can imagine the game play now....

yes, it would hafta be 2D and it would ROCK YOUR YOKEL FACE

Can't do spherical gameplay in 2D!
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: MCD on October 27, 2007, 02:45:10 AM
Not all games Mike, that's for sure.

RE remake and RE0 still look beautiful to this day, and the gameplay is fantastic.

 
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 27, 2007, 02:45:30 AM
who cares about spherical gameplay, whatever that is?
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: TVC15 on October 27, 2007, 02:46:47 AM
Really, I can not explain it.  I had a good time playing Zack and Wiki, but I can't think of any other reason I haven't gone back to it.  Visual feedback is an important part of gaming, always has been.  Maybe the most important thing.  Nintendo was off base thinking people "wanted" new control mechanisms.  We just want to see new things.  Control hasn't been lacking.
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: demi on October 27, 2007, 02:59:37 AM
I don't feel like going back to Zack and Wiki because I was swindled into thinking itwas a Monkey Island-esque game, but I got EXIT instead

I just finished the Forest Temple in Zelda, and waggle is very not welcome here. Why does the Twilight World look like Okami, wolf and all? It even has the distinguished mentally-challenged "closed-in-defeat-all-enemies" thing as well. I fucking hated Okami.
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: brawndolicious on October 27, 2007, 03:03:40 AM
ok, I just played Lost Planet for a few hours and have no idea what's going on in the story so do any of you guys want to play online?
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: MCD on October 27, 2007, 03:04:40 AM
ok, I just played Lost Planet for a few hours and have no idea what's going on in the story so do any of you guys want to play online?

There was a story?

honestly i played it for the graphics and bosses.

Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 27, 2007, 03:06:34 AM
I fucking hated Okami.

best 3d zelda, and i hate you
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: demi on October 27, 2007, 03:06:56 AM
Lick my nigglestick
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 27, 2007, 03:08:03 AM
it stinks like wop :-\
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: Synbios459 on October 27, 2007, 03:08:51 AM
I fucking hated Okami.

best 3d zelda, and i hate you
:lol no. OOT :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: demi on October 27, 2007, 03:09:01 AM
8==D lick lick
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: MCD on October 27, 2007, 03:09:42 AM
I can't wait to play okami on my wii!

Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 27, 2007, 03:10:50 AM
with inferior controls?
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: brawndolicious on October 27, 2007, 03:11:08 AM
ok, I just played Lost Planet for a few hours and have no idea what's going on in the story so do any of you guys want to play online?
There was a story?
honestly i played it for the graphics and bosses.
exactly, it's actually pretty lolworthy but I'm stuck at the part where
spoiler (click to show/hide)
you're in the volcano and there's a bunch of spider mechs and there seems to be a bridge that goes across to a door further into the facility and there's a bunch of VS' (including a spider one in tank form) and I am being owned.
[close]

so I just want to play something online.  I have like 14 friends online right now but I'd prefer being in a party, maybe co-op!?
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: MCD on October 27, 2007, 03:12:57 AM
with inferior controls?

INNOVATIVE CONTROLS.

Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: MCD on October 27, 2007, 03:16:35 AM
Sadly, there is no co-op in LP.

and remember, you don't need to beat everyone, running away is the best course of action in LP especially on hard or extreme.




Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: brawndolicious on October 27, 2007, 03:22:15 AM
no, I mean co-op in another game.  halo, gears, etc.
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 27, 2007, 03:22:43 AM
I find whiteman's HD elitism unsexy.  I'm losing my boner here  :-\

1080P or GTFO!

But....but graphics don't matter, gameplay does!

Zack and Wiki and Ratchet and Clank prove this wrong.  Zack and Wiki is a fun, inventive, and new game featuring all new gameplay but terrible visuals (all Wii's fault, Capcom did their job fine).  However, I find all my time going to Ratchet and Clank, a mediocre (well, mediocre for me since I have played all of these R&C games) game with eye jizzing graphics.  So, Wii supporters are all wrong, as usual.  Great graphics do make up for shaky gameplay, and good gameplay does not make up for abysmal visuals.


Got to agree with you completely.  I could keep playing R&C for hours even though nothing about the gameplay is particularly interesting.  I just can't tear myself away from the pretty visuals. The lack of excitement is partly due to the ridiculously low difficulty.  Synbios can probably beat it with 1 foot on the controller.  
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: MCD on October 27, 2007, 03:26:32 AM
no, I mean co-op in another game.  halo, gears, etc.

Oh, i am not free at the moment and since i am not in the US, it will probably be laggy.

Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: brawndolicious on October 27, 2007, 04:07:50 AM
god damn.
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: MCD on October 27, 2007, 04:12:01 AM
Sorry  :(

Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: brawndolicious on October 27, 2007, 04:20:14 AM
Now what am I supposed to do on Friday night!?  Go out?
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: Beezy on October 27, 2007, 08:25:12 AM
I just finished the Forest Temple in Zelda, and waggle is very not welcome here.
We told you to get the GC version.
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: MCD on October 27, 2007, 08:34:15 AM
I just finished the Forest Temple in Zelda, and waggle is very not welcome here.
We told you to get the GC version.

It's not widescreen!

Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: Beezy on October 27, 2007, 08:36:32 AM
I just finished the Forest Temple in Zelda, and waggle is very not welcome here.
We told you to get the GC version.

It's not widescreen!
camera control + no waggle > widescreen
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: MCD on October 27, 2007, 08:52:05 AM
Not when you have a big ass HDTV.

Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: DJ_Tet on October 27, 2007, 09:56:56 AM
What kind of tv do you have TVC?

Wii looks really good on my plasma, however, that term is relative.  Despite not being bothered by any shimmering, I still have rarely touched my wii since I got my 360.  The difference is striking in sharpness and detail, obviously, but the main thing is that it does make my wii image look soft.  Although the plasma enhanced my wii graphics, it didn't impress at all once I got some real HD gaming.
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: tiesto on October 27, 2007, 11:01:16 AM
I'm playing Dragon Quarter on my plasma now... early PS2 game, omg the shimmering and the jaggies make it look awful!
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 27, 2007, 12:49:56 PM
I just finished the Forest Temple in Zelda, and waggle is very not welcome here.
We told you to get the GC version.

I was crucified for saying this almost a year ago!
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: Mondain on October 27, 2007, 12:59:42 PM
Wii games on an HDTV look worse than PS2 games

I tried to play Zack & Wiki on my 1080p screen... yuck
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: DJ_Tet on October 27, 2007, 01:10:25 PM
It's been said that wiis and ps2s look terrible on lcd screens especially.  That was the main reason I avoided that technology, as I still have a lot of standard def content I watch.
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: MCD on October 27, 2007, 01:26:15 PM
Isn't that because Plasma tvs resolution are usually low compared to LCDs?

like 852x480 and 1024x768?

or is it because of the Plasma technology?

Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 27, 2007, 01:27:25 PM
I find whiteman's HD elitism unsexy.  I'm losing my boner here  :-\

1080P or GTFO!

But....but graphics don't matter, gameplay does!

Zack and Wiki and Ratchet and Clank prove this wrong.  Zack and Wiki is a fun, inventive, and new game featuring all new gameplay but terrible visuals (all Wii's fault, Capcom did their job fine).  However, I find all my time going to Ratchet and Clank, a mediocre (well, mediocre for me since I have played all of these R&C games) game with eye jizzing graphics.  So, Wii supporters are all wrong, as usual.  Great graphics do make up for shaky gameplay, and good gameplay does not make up for abysmal visuals.


Got to agree with you completely.  I could keep playing R&C for hours even though nothing about the gameplay is particularly interesting.  I just can't tear myself away from the pretty visuals. The lack of excitement is partly due to the ridiculously low difficulty.  Synbios can probably beat it with 1 foot on the controller.  

Evilbore: Home to Graphic Whores
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: MCD on October 27, 2007, 01:48:49 PM
I was joking you know.

Amir0x said that, not me!



That is why Amirox is gonna get CALIGULA'd.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp3Lua3atX4 kinda NSFW

So this is what you meant  :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: Synbios459 on October 27, 2007, 01:51:21 PM
I find whiteman's HD elitism unsexy.  I'm losing my boner here  :-\

1080P or GTFO!

But....but graphics don't matter, gameplay does!
Zack and Wiki and Ratchet and Clank prove this wrong.  Zack and Wiki is a fun, inventive, and new game featuring all new gameplay but terrible visuals (all Wii's fault, Capcom did their job fine).  However, I find all my time going to Ratchet and Clank, a mediocre (well, mediocre for me since I have played all of these R&C games) game with eye jizzing graphics.  So, Wii supporters are all wrong, as usual.  Great graphics do make up for shaky gameplay, and good gameplay does not make up for abysmal visuals.


Got to agree with you completely.  I could keep playing R&C for hours even though nothing about the gameplay is particularly interesting.  I just can't tear myself away from the pretty visuals. The lack of excitement is partly due to the ridiculously low difficulty.  Synbios can probably beat it with 1 foot on the controller.   

Evilbore: Home to Graphic Whores
So would GAF be GAF: Home to the fanboy whores??
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: DJ_Tet on October 27, 2007, 03:34:08 PM
Isn't that because Plasma tvs resolution are usually low compared to LCDs?

like 852x480 and 1024x768?

or is it because of the Plasma technology?



I think it has to do with several factors, one of which is the lower standard resolution of plasmas.  The pioneer plasma I have supposedly has one of the best scalers on the market, which makes all the difference in displaying standard def content. 
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: Oblivion on October 27, 2007, 05:25:57 PM
i didn't particularly enjoy playing my ps2 on my hdtv, which is why i keep an sdtv handy! wii image quality is barely an increase over that of the ps2, thanks to the cheap output filter, so wii display on a hd screen is YIKES

Yep. I'd like to have 2 T.V.s handy when I get my own place, for both last gen. and next gen games.


Edit: Btw, shouldn't this be in gaming?
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: MCD on October 28, 2007, 01:23:20 AM
Pioneer Plasmas  :bow
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: TVC15 on October 28, 2007, 01:43:54 AM
Honestly I was waiting for 1080p plasmas to get relatively affordable, but then the sweet Sony Wega 720p deal fell into my lap and I couldn't say no.  I'm good for a TV for a whle now.
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: MCD on October 28, 2007, 02:16:06 AM
I wanted to buy a new TV (1080p) from  :bow Samsung  :bow but i decided not to after taking a look at their site.

technology is moving fast, first we were stuck with 5000:1 contrast, then 10000:1 and now 25000:1.

really scary, if i can get a decent deal i will jump in, otherwise, no new tv for me.



 
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: drohne on October 28, 2007, 02:31:55 AM
manufacturers' specs for contrast ratio are more or less fictional. the actual static contrast of samsung's newer lcds is somewhere short of 2000:1 -- which is excellent for an lcd. tvs do get better, but they don't get better that dramatically or that quickly.
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: MCD on October 28, 2007, 02:38:04 AM
Well, i only have 1 HDMI port and nowadays, LCDs come with 3 HDMI ports.

in my eyes, that's a whole lot better (i fucking hate wires and selectors), but still, not enough money at the moment.

 
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 28, 2007, 02:55:45 AM
I find whiteman's HD elitism unsexy.  I'm losing my boner here  :-\

1080P or GTFO!

But....but graphics don't matter, gameplay does!

Zack and Wiki and Ratchet and Clank prove this wrong.  Zack and Wiki is a fun, inventive, and new game featuring all new gameplay but terrible visuals (all Wii's fault, Capcom did their job fine).  However, I find all my time going to Ratchet and Clank, a mediocre (well, mediocre for me since I have played all of these R&C games) game with eye jizzing graphics.  So, Wii supporters are all wrong, as usual.  Great graphics do make up for shaky gameplay, and good gameplay does not make up for abysmal visuals.


Got to agree with you completely.  I could keep playing R&C for hours even though nothing about the gameplay is particularly interesting.  I just can't tear myself away from the pretty visuals. The lack of excitement is partly due to the ridiculously low difficulty.  Synbios can probably beat it with 1 foot on the controller.   

Evilbore: Home to Graphic Whores

Hey, it's not like I'm endorsing Lair.  R&C's gameplay is real solid.  It might be more of the same, but what was there before is actually pretty good.  I was probably exagerrating a little about how boring it plays. 

Also, at least I don't puke like a little bitch just because a game is running a 30fps with not enough anti-aliasing. 





I wanted to buy a new TV (1080p) from  :bow Samsung  :bow but i decided not to after taking a look at their site.

technology is moving fast, first we were stuck with 5000:1 contrast, then 10000:1 and now 25000:1.

really scary, if i can get a decent deal i will jump in, otherwise, no new tv for me.


Like Drohne said, LCD contrast ratios are mostly bogus because they quote what is achievable with their contrast enhancers.   Contrast enhancers make the picture look great on the surface but most AV experts turn them off because deeper blacks are gained at the expense of shadow detail.  Plasmas still have much better contrast ratios than LCDs.  Plasmas are also the best if you want a big HDTV that will still look ok with last-gen consoles.  LCDs are terrible with non-native resolutions which is why 720p look worse on a 1080p LCD than on a 720p LCD.  If you don't care about size, then CRT HDTVs are the best option for last-gen consoles. 
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: MCD on October 28, 2007, 03:01:50 AM
I will probably wait for SED tvs (Toshiba/Canon new tvs) and see if they are better than current Plasma/LCDs.

and CRTs are huge, not an option.

if SED sucks then i will get a Pioneer Plasma  :bow



Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 28, 2007, 03:09:28 AM
I haven't heard good news about SEDs lately.  Supposedly, most manufacturers aren't interested in the technology anymore.  Have you checked out the Panasonic plasmas?  They offer almost the same picture as Pioneers at much lower prices.  The only thing that I don't like about Plasmas is the amount of glare.  Other than that, Plasmas are superior to LCDs in every way. 
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: Synbios459 on October 28, 2007, 03:11:02 AM
I haven't heard good news about SEDs lately.  Supposedly, most manufacturers aren't interested in the technology anymore.  Have you checked out the Panasonic plasmas?  They offer almost the same picture as Pioneers at much lower prices.  The only thing that I don't like about Plasmas is the amount of glare.  Other than that, Plasmas are superior to LCDs in every way. 
What do you think of DLPs?
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 28, 2007, 03:12:34 AM
I'm not too famliar with DLPs.  They look pretty good for the price but Plasmas still have the better picture, imo. 
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: MCD on October 28, 2007, 03:17:47 AM
I hear good stuff about Panasonic Plasmas, but everyone say Pioneer is better.

i am not good at tech things, so by next year, if i get a nice deal, i will go with any of these two.

Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 28, 2007, 03:20:42 AM
Pioneers are not worth the extra money, imo.  The GAF Pioneer fanboys exagerrate how much better the Pioneers look.  Go check out Cnet reviews.  They usually recommend Pannys because of the price differences.  There've also been some years when Pannys have had better picture overall, regardless of price. 
Title: Re: Nintendo owes me a set of component cables
Post by: MCD on October 28, 2007, 03:25:44 AM
Cool.

price is an important factor to me, and if the quality is even better than that's fucking worth it.

thank you Smooth, and you too drohne.