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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: drohne on October 29, 2007, 09:29:08 PM

Title: wii ownership, day 5: it still sucks
Post by: drohne on October 29, 2007, 09:29:08 PM: so my component cables just came in. wii's output is really soft in 480p. i'm using one of those monoprice 3-in-1 component cables, so my ps2 can share the input -- its signal is faintly noisy when it's plugged into the wii, and i thought it was the cables at first, but they work perfectly with my ps2. i don't know if i should bother trying different cables...the wii's audio output is notoriously shoddy, so maybe its video output is too.

which brings me to another thing -- this console is a money-sink. i downloaded sin and punishment, which still fucking rocks: but i had to buy $20 of wii points to buy the $12 game, and the absence of configuration options make it awkward to play on a gamecube pad. so now i want a $20 classic controller. and the sensor bar is an eyesore and a constant impediment, so i need to pick up an aftermarket wireless version. that's about $320 down the toilet, and i haven't got any games yet.

and boy: last year it was all 'have you got a wii? have you got a wii?' now nobody gives a shit. wii's release schedule isn't even enough to keep nongamers interested.

i'm gonna go rent zack and wiki, if they've got it -- only capcom can save us now
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Post by: Mondain on October 29, 2007, 09:35:56 PM: the Wii's picture quality sucks shit and is an enormous embarassment, it's the biggest hidden vice of this generation; don't do any more efforts to make it better because it's rotten to the core, and the GameCube looked 5x better and richer in comparison... even PS2 games look much better

usually, I have more fun by triggering random options in the 360 dashboard or the XMB than playing actual Wii titles

and yes, it's absolutely scandalous when you ponder how much money Nintendo will make by selling so many different controllers, it's not for no reason that it's been marketed almost exclusively as a local multiplayer system, it's because that's where most of Nintendo's profits are going to come from

don't buy the Classic Controller btw, it's one of the worst, one of the most anti-ergonomic pads ever

also it's true that the sensor pad is awful, you always lose your Wii remote signal

fuck, is there any positive aspect about the Wii other than the opportunities that it offers for scorn and gloating?
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Post by: drohne on October 29, 2007, 09:37:12 PM: i'd forgotten about trauma center -- i wanted to try that on ds and never got around to it. that's a good fallback if they haven't got z+w
Title: Re: wii ownership, day 5: it still sucks
Post by: y2kev on October 29, 2007, 09:37:32 PM: they should port google image labeler to wii
Title: Re: wii ownership, day 5: it still sucks
Post by: Mondain on October 29, 2007, 09:40:04 PM: because many elite forum users who also happen to be videophiles bought the Wii because they thought its games, while SD, would look as good as GameCube ones when used with component cables, which couldn't be farther from the truth

if that piece of white ivory plastic didn't play Fire Emblem I'd go on a bridge and throw it in the St-Lawrence river
Title: Re: wii ownership, day 5: it still sucks
Post by: Shuri on October 29, 2007, 09:41:22 PM: The wii is the shittiest console I've ever owned, and this is my honest opinion. I've had more freaking fun with my second hand 3do.
Title: Re: wii ownership, day 5: it still sucks
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on October 29, 2007, 09:43:16 PM: Sin and Punishment is no easier to play on the Classic Controller (worse, even).

When they were recoding it just for the Wii it would have been nice if they put a "not terrible" control scheme in but oh well.
Title: Re: wii ownership, day 5: it still sucks
Post by: Mondain on October 29, 2007, 09:51:20 PM: so Sin & Punishment is unplayable compared to the N64 version because the purposed Wii control schemes ruin the whole experience? thanks for the heads-up boys, this title interested me greatly but in light of this I won't ever purchase it
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Post by: Himu on October 29, 2007, 09:51:43 PM: haha Drohne I never imagined you'd get a wii, or even have a Mario avatar at gaf
Title: Re: wii ownership, day 5: it still sucks
Post by: demi on October 29, 2007, 09:52:52 PM: I doubt you were ever gonna buy it in the first place, Jotaro

I'm picking up Fire Emblem, totally forgot that was coming out soon
Title: Re: wii ownership, day 5: it still sucks
Post by: Polari on October 29, 2007, 10:03:01 PM: Quote from: Mondain on October 29, 2007, 09:51:20 PM
so Sin & Punishment is unplayable compared to the N64 version because the purposed Wii control schemes ruin the whole experience? thanks for the heads-up boys, this title interested me greatly but in light of this I won't ever purchase it

Subtle.
Title: Re: wii ownership, day 5: it still sucks
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 29, 2007, 10:37:45 PM: Drohne, maybe you should check out the official component cables. I get very little noise with the official cables but of course the graphics still suck.

I'm one of those Wii owners that don't usually turn it on unless non-gaming friends/relatives come over. Titles that I would recommend you try are: Zelda:TP, MP3, Trauma Center, and Tony Hawk:Downhill. Zelda's widescreen support and add on waggling actually made the game more enjoyable for me but some people prefer traditional controls. Tony Hawk got mediocre reviews but it's a pretty fun arcade game. I haven't checked out MLB Power Pros and the new Mecury Meltdown yet but they've gotten pretty good reviews.

I saw a lot more WII titles when I was in Japan this summer but I bet they're mostly crap too.
Title: Re: wii ownership, day 5: it still sucks
Post by: demi on October 29, 2007, 10:44:51 PM: Zelda's waggle is unnecessary period, although the fact that I have 3 items available at the touch of a button is a good trade-off
Title: Re: wii ownership, day 5: it still sucks
Post by: The Sceneman on October 29, 2007, 10:45:52 PM: I dont get the classic control hate, its a sweet pad.

Theres actually only 2 Wii games Im looking forward to, No More Heroes and Battalion Wars 2. Everything else looks bah. Smash will be ok when Im on drugs, and I cant get excited about Mario.
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Post by: Smooth Groove on October 29, 2007, 10:48:36 PM: I like the easy spin attack with the waggle controls althought it's kinda cheesy.
Title: Re: wii ownership, day 5: it still sucks
Post by: Beezy on October 29, 2007, 10:56:28 PM: Quote from: Scenester on October 29, 2007, 10:45:52 PM
I dont get the classic control hate, its a sweet pad.

Theres actually only 2 Wii games Im looking forward to, No More Heroes and Battalion Wars 2. Everything else looks bah. Smash will be ok when Im on drugs, and I cant get excited about Mario.
Why not Fire Emblem?
Title: Re: wii ownership, day 5: it still sucks
Post by: The Sceneman on October 29, 2007, 11:01:04 PM: Ive never played a Fire Emblem game. Tell me which one to play first
Title: Re: wii ownership, day 5: it still sucks
Post by: drohne on October 29, 2007, 11:09:20 PM: the problems with s+p on the gamecube pad are:

1. movement is on the d-pad and fire is on the left trigger -- when you're double-tapping the d-pad to roll or tapping the trigger to swing your sword, things get really messy

2. you have to aim with the stupid nipplestick

if nintendo had implemented a basic system-level configuration screen, i could switch things around and probably improve on the original n64 scheme...but this is nintendo. so the classic controller sucks? i might try to mod a gc pad...switch the right and left sticks, certainly. and while it's been ages since i've soldered anything, it might not be hard to switch the functions of the right and left triggers. then i'd have a CUSTOM SIN AND PUNISHMENT PAD. and odds are that sin and punishment will remain the best use for a wii.

and i'm probably being a little anal about the video noise -- i can only see it clearly if i freeze the image or sit way off angle. but i don't have this problem with any of my other consoles. i'm not keen on buying $35 official cables...in my experience they're no better than the ones from respected internet sources like monoprice...and the official ps2 cables are actually worse.
Title: Re: wii ownership, day 5: it still sucks
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 29, 2007, 11:14:06 PM: Drohne, you can try using a PS2/GC controller adapter. I'll check to see if mine works on the WII when I have time.
Title: Re: wii ownership, day 5: it still sucks
Post by: Polari on October 29, 2007, 11:14:30 PM: It will most likely be the cables. Those multi ones are terrible in terms of noise in my experience.
Title: Re: wii ownership, day 5: it still sucks
Post by: Beezy on October 29, 2007, 11:27:28 PM: Quote from: Scenester on October 29, 2007, 11:01:04 PM
Ive never played a Fire Emblem game. Tell me which one to play first
:o

Play them in the order that they came out in over here or just play the GC one since it's the best.

Fire Emblem (GBA)
Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones (GBA)
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance (GC)
Title: Re: wii ownership, day 5: it still sucks
Post by: demi on October 29, 2007, 11:30:00 PM: Path of Radiance is a turd, avoid that one, just play the GBA ones
Title: Re: wii ownership, day 5: it still sucks
Post by: Beezy on October 29, 2007, 11:33:57 PM: Wrong again demi.
Title: Re: wii ownership, day 5: it still sucks
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on October 29, 2007, 11:35:02 PM: I can't believe you actually bought one. I would've figured you'd to be one of the last holdouts.
Title: Re: wii ownership, day 5: it still sucks
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 29, 2007, 11:44:11 PM: hah! drohne beat me to wii ownership! NOW MY SHAME WILL BE LESSENED IF/WHEN I AM FORCED TO BUY ONE.

good god i hope super mario galaxy sucks. note: amir0x' batshit paroxysms and gaf commentary do not count as positives.
Title: Re: wii ownership, day 5: it still sucks
Post by: Mondain on October 29, 2007, 11:52:03 PM: yeah, I've not faith in SMG, and even it if garners good reviews I probably won't play it for a few years

Ratchet & Clank, that Naruto 360 game and Assassin's Creed will be sufficient to fullfill my platform gaming needs

plus the whole gang of Nintendo characters is pretty tired, who cares about their adventures anymore?
Title: Re: wii ownership, day 5: it still sucks
Post by: ToxicAdam on October 29, 2007, 11:52:42 PM: I'll pretend I didn't see someone disrespect Path of Radiance.
Title: Re: wii ownership, day 5: it still sucks
Post by: TVC15 on October 29, 2007, 11:59:03 PM: Quote from: ToxicAdam on October 29, 2007, 11:52:42 PM
I'll pretend I didn't see someone disrespect Path of Radiance.

It's the weakest of the FE games that has made it to NA. I still liked it, but the strategy is simple enough that it feels better as a handheld game than a console game, too.
Title: Re: wii ownership, day 5: it still sucks
Post by: Beezy on October 30, 2007, 12:02:07 AM: As much as I love R&C, I don't really consider it a platformer.
Title: Re: wii ownership, day 5: it still sucks
Post by: demi on October 30, 2007, 12:08:45 AM: Quote from: ToxicAdam on October 29, 2007, 11:52:42 PM
I'll pretend I didn't see someone disrespect Path of Radiance.

I'm buying Waggle Emblem - tho it doesnt use an ounce of waggle, it uses sideways control ala Super Paper Mario
Title: Re: wii ownership, day 5: it still sucks
Post by: drohne on October 30, 2007, 12:22:28 AM: if the multi-cable is the problem, shouldn't it also produce noise with my ps2? i might try one of monoprice's standard wii component cables -- they're really cheap -- but the multi-cable is so convenient for my setup that i'd almost rather live with the noise. and before anyone suggests it, i know i shouldn't plug the cable into multiple systems at once

i didn't think i'd buy a wii either -- beyond galaxy there's nothing i'd pay full price for -- but i'm bad at the whole impulse control thing. probably best to get the wii experiment out of my system now, when i can play galaxy at launch and then maybe ebay the thing during the christmas rush. i've never sold a console before...but i can't see much reason to keep it. my expectations for galaxy aren't even that high -- i doubt i could believe the desperate overhype if i wanted to

anybody have a spare gamecube controller to unload, btw? doesn't matter if it's broken -- i just need to scavenge a left analog stick
Title: Re: wii ownership, day 5: it still sucks
Post by: demi on October 30, 2007, 12:26:32 AM: I'll dump a controller on you

PM if you are interested
Title: Re: wii ownership, day 5: it still sucks
Post by: Mondain on October 30, 2007, 12:26:45 AM: yeah, experiment with it

one always needs utter mediocrity to snap out of jadedness, and learn how to recognize and appreciate excellence again
Title: Re: wii ownership, day 5: it still sucks
Post by: Polari on October 30, 2007, 12:27:52 AM: Quote from: drohne on October 30, 2007, 12:22:28 AM
if the multi-cable is the problem, shouldn't it also produce noise with my ps2? i might try one of monoprice's standard wii component cables -- they're really cheap -- but the multi-cable is so convenient for my setup that i'd almost rather live with the noise. and before anyone suggests it, i know i shouldn't plug the cable into multiple systems at once

I guess it could depend on how it was wired. With the one I had the picture quality when they were all plugged in went ps2>dreamcast>gamecube.
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Post by: Polari on October 30, 2007, 12:29:22 AM: Picture quality in terms of the amount of noise, that is.
Title: Re: wii ownership, day 5: it still sucks
Post by: drohne on October 30, 2007, 12:34:40 AM: Quote from: demi on October 30, 2007, 12:26:32 AM
I'll dump a controller on you

PM if you are interested

pee emmed
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 30, 2007, 12:59:43 AM: I tried out Super Mario Galaxy today. It was fun, but pretty damn jaggy on the HDTV that the Gamestop was running it on.
Title: Re: wii ownership, day 5: it still sucks
Post by: bork on October 30, 2007, 01:04:38 AM: I got my reserve for Mario Galaxy this thursday, but I'm not hyped at all. I never liked Mario 64 and found Sunshine okay. I HOPE Galaxy turns out to be awesome, but I no longer have faith in Nintendo's console games to turn out this way. The GAF hype thread is out of control, but I haven't really bothered reading it. I haven't even watched a single video for the game yet. I kept reading "Man, Nintendo is going ALL OUT in Japan! ADS EVERYWHERE!!!" and I have seen a grand total of ONE commercial for it on TV so far. This commercial featured a little boy and his father playing together: The father is moving a "2P" cursor around the screen blowing up all the enemies with the press of a button, and the kid moves Mario over to collect the shit they drop. YAY EXCITING. :-\ Great way to sell the game, Nintendo!

But I'm not hating. I'm not enough of a fanboy that I don't realize that this console isn't geared towards me.

Quote from: Smooth Groove on October 29, 2007, 10:37:45 PM

I saw a lot more WII titles when I was in Japan this summer but I bet they're mostly crap too.

Nothing Japanese-only comes to mind that's worth it other than Gundam. There is this one mini-game collection with Taito stuff in it I want to check out one day though. It's also on the DS.

Quote from: Scenester on October 29, 2007, 10:45:52 PM
I dont get the classic control hate, its a sweet pad.

Yeah, I agree. It's a good pad; it's been fine for SNES games and Guilty Gear, but then I don't mess with the analog part so for all I know that sucks.

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Theres actually only 2 Wii games Im looking forward to, No More Heroes and Battalion Wars 2. Everything else looks bah. Smash will be ok when Im on drugs, and I cant get excited about Mario.

When the Wii has actual REAL games, and not "casual" or "non-gamer" crap, it's okay. I fucking loved playing Biohazard 4 with the Wiimote, and now I'm enjoying Ghost Squad. The problem is that this machine clearly isn't made for the hardcore gamer, and Nintendo is making fucking boatloads of money off the non-gamer stuff to care. The system is full of ports or generic Nintendo mascot sequel #2320003203203. That's the problem, but there still are some good titles available. I think the Wii has an overall better line-up than the PS3 does right now, as sad as that is.

Just take the Wii for what it is: The party machine. It's what you break out when people are over who aren't really into video games. If you don't care about that and/or don't care about owning every current system, then don't fucking buy a Wii.

Quote from: demi on October 29, 2007, 11:30:00 PM
Path of Radiance is a turd, avoid that one, just play the GBA ones

I thought this was the Wii version, cuz GC = Wii. I LOL'd.
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Post by: drohne on October 30, 2007, 01:10:15 AM: i actually think galaxy's 'two player' mode is pretty clever -- i won't have much use for it now, but when i was a kid i remember my friend would sit there with a zapper while i played final fantasy, shooting enemies for good luck. maybe most kids aren't quite that stupid, but they do sit around while their friends play single-player games, and galaxy provides an active variation on that. i'd imagine it's nice for parents as well, though i condone neither mirrors nor copulation, which increase the numbers of men
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Post by: bork on October 30, 2007, 01:14:21 AM: Quote from: drohne on October 30, 2007, 01:10:15 AM
i actually think galaxy's 'two player' mode is pretty clever -- i won't have much use for it now, but when i was a kid i remember my friend would sit there with a zapper while i played final fantasy, shooting enemies for good luck. maybe most kids aren't quite that stupid, but they do sit around while their friends play single-player games, and galaxy provides an active variation on that. i'd imagine it's nice for parents as well, though i condone neither mirrors nor copulation, which increase the numbers of men

Yeah, it was pretty clever when it was called "Zelda The Wind Waker" on the Game Cube-- you threw bombs and shit down as Tingle using a Gameboy Advance. This isn't anything new.

My point was how fucking boring they made it look in the commercial though.
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Post by: Oblivion on October 30, 2007, 01:21:01 AM: Quote from: Professor Prole on October 29, 2007, 11:44:11 PM
good god i hope super mario galaxy sucks.

What? Why? If it does then that means there wouldn't be anything good to play on Wii at all.
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Post by: Beezy on October 30, 2007, 01:27:30 AM: Quote from: Oblivion on October 30, 2007, 01:21:01 AM
Quote from: Professor Prole on October 29, 2007, 11:44:11 PM
good god i hope super mario galaxy sucks.

What? Why? If it does then that means there wouldn't be anything good to play on Wii at all.
Exactly. Then he wouldn't have to buy one.
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Post by: Oblivion on October 30, 2007, 01:27:59 AM: Quote from: Beezy on October 30, 2007, 01:27:30 AM
Quote from: Oblivion on October 30, 2007, 01:21:01 AM
Quote from: Professor Prole on October 29, 2007, 11:44:11 PM
good god i hope super mario galaxy sucks.

What? Why? If it does then that means there wouldn't be anything good to play on Wii at all.
Exactly. Then he wouldn't have to buy one.

:duh
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Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on October 30, 2007, 01:57:59 AM: Quote from: lyte edge on October 30, 2007, 01:04:38 AM
Nothing Japanese-only comes to mind that's worth it other than Gundam. There is this one mini-game collection with Taito stuff in it I want to check out one day though. It's also on the DS.
That's coming to America from Majesco (with the original title "Furu Furu Park" intact), It'll be out here eventually, even though it don't look so hot.

I've got the offical Ninty component cables and the picture quality is still rather assey. I would advise Drohne to live with it or segregate the Wii to as good a standard definition television as he can get, because that's as good a picture that the Wii will ever put out.

My HDTV has a VGA output, I was entertaining the notion of getting the Wii VGA Cable (http://"http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=181204")to use on my TV, but I'll probably just get the same jagtastic blur that I've got now, just on a different channel.
the thing of it is, the Wii still has the light gun shooters, quirky puzzle games (Mercury Meltdown, Trauma Center, and Zack and Wiki really are all that), and other oddball genres that I consider essental. If the visual output didn't suck SOOOOOOOO much ass, I'd be a full-on Wii booster boy.

I don't even mind the greatly reduced horsepower, if only I could get a better then shit image quality out of my system, I'd have no complaints.
well, fewer complaints.
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Post by: brawndolicious on October 30, 2007, 02:27:20 AM: yeah, galaxy seems closer to mario 64 though. more exploration, less collecting, no abnormal camera movements. I really hated how they rationed how much water you have. game was pretty shit actually. I liked spraying the villagers.
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Post by: bork on October 30, 2007, 02:32:51 AM: Quote from: dcharlie on October 30, 2007, 02:22:35 AM

Mario 64 gave my pant elastic a big work out and then Sunshine made my rock hard member flacid.

Well, I pretty much universally hated just about everything Nintendo made on the Nintendo 64 and found the Game Cube to be a step up. At the time, I was playing Jumping Flash! 2, which I thought was (and still think is) better than Mario 64. That game was 3D platforming done RIGHT. Anyway, the best thing about Sunshine were those bonus stages with PLATFORM JUMPING and the classic music playing in the background. That alone was fucking better than anything in Mario 64.

I generally loathe collecting, so I'm glad to hear it seems that there's less of a focus on it.
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Post by: Himu on October 30, 2007, 03:12:22 AM: Quote from: Mondain on October 29, 2007, 11:52:03 PM
yeah, I've not faith in SMG, and even it if garners good reviews I probably won't play it for a few years

Ratchet & Clank, that Naruto 360 game and Assassin's Creed will be sufficient to fullfill my platform gaming needs

plus the whole gang of Nintendo characters is pretty tired, who cares about their adventures anymore?

You have to be kidding me.

Ratchet and Clank isn't that great of a platformer, in fact, it's not one. And Assassin's Creed apparently has auto jump. Fail. And a Naruto game over Mario? Jesus Christ.
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Post by: Smooth Groove on October 30, 2007, 03:17:18 AM: Yeah, I'll like R&C a lot more if there were more jumping and less shooting. Even if you like having shooting elements in a platformer, the R&C camera sucks too much to make them fun.
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Post by: Himu on October 30, 2007, 03:21:12 AM: Haha Ratchet and Clank

Someone kill that series. Imsomniac needs something fresh again.
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Post by: Mondain on October 30, 2007, 03:23:36 AM: Quote from: Himuro on October 30, 2007, 03:12:22 AM
Quote from: Mondain on October 29, 2007, 11:52:03 PM
yeah, I've not faith in SMG, and even it if garners good reviews I probably won't play it for a few years

Ratchet & Clank, that Naruto 360 game and Assassin's Creed will be sufficient to fullfill my platform gaming needs

plus the whole gang of Nintendo characters is pretty tired, who cares about their adventures anymore?

You have to be kidding me.

Ratchet and Clank isn't that great of a platformer, in fact, it's not one. And Assassin's Creed apparently has auto jump. Fail. And a Naruto game over Mario? Jesus Christ.

These are mostly games with lighter platforming elements, that's plenty enough

I mostly liked this genre when I was young, SM64 pretty much topped what a platformer could accomplish in 3D

one day perhaps that you'll grow up too, you don't want to end up like GAFers in their mid-thirdies who get all aroused over cameo appearances of Nintendo characters in certain of their games
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Post by: Himu on October 30, 2007, 03:27:42 AM: Quote from: Mondain on October 30, 2007, 03:23:36 AM
Quote from: Himuro on October 30, 2007, 03:12:22 AM
Quote from: Mondain on October 29, 2007, 11:52:03 PM
yeah, I've not faith in SMG, and even it if garners good reviews I probably won't play it for a few years

Ratchet & Clank, that Naruto 360 game and Assassin's Creed will be sufficient to fullfill my platform gaming needs

plus the whole gang of Nintendo characters is pretty tired, who cares about their adventures anymore?

You have to be kidding me.

Ratchet and Clank isn't that great of a platformer, in fact, it's not one. And Assassin's Creed apparently has auto jump. Fail. And a Naruto game over Mario? Jesus Christ.

These are mostly games with lighter platforming elements, that's plenty enough

I mostly liked this genre when I was young, SM64 pretty much topped what a platformer could accomplish in 3D

one day perhaps that you'll grow up too, you don't want to end up like GAFers in their mid-thirdies who get all aroused over cameo appearances of Nintendo characters in certain of their games

Huh? Mario games really don't have cameo appearances, and I shit on Smash Bros. daily. The fact you would put a fucking NARUTO game over a Mario, platformers that have some of the best controls and platforming in 3d platformers, is distinguished mentally-challenged.

The fact you're putting ANY anime game over Mario says lots about your game taste, dude. I mean, I'm not Wii apologist, but fuck man. Naruto? Ratchet and Clank? Over fucking Mario? And you're telling me to grow up because I'm not letting the Nintendo name get in my way of possibly enjoying what could be one of the best 3d platformers in years? lmao
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Post by: Mondain on October 30, 2007, 03:33:09 AM: OK, now that you've suggested me to play it, I have no choice but to try it on day one (http://pici.se/pictures/vQsmBkSHv.gif)
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Post by: Himu on October 30, 2007, 03:34:04 AM: what

mondain you're crazy :lol
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Post by: etiolate on October 30, 2007, 03:35:31 AM: the Wii is pretty awesome for adventure fans

Zelda
Metroid
SPM
Z&W

In the first year.
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Post by: Smooth Groove on October 30, 2007, 03:36:56 AM: Quote from: Billy Rygar on October 30, 2007, 03:20:22 AM
You have to jump like 6 times in a Ratchet & Clank game. In fact if you die during a jumping puzzle in one of these games you're a fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow, or six years old.

:lol

I thought the same thing when I saw some youtube vid that was trying to prove that R&C had great platforming elements.
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Post by: Himu on October 30, 2007, 03:37:12 AM: Quote from: etiolate on October 30, 2007, 03:35:31 AM
the Wii is pretty awesome for adventure fans

Zelda
Metroid
SPM
Z&W

In the first year.

the only thing i'd consider in this batch adventure would be metroid prime 3. =/
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Post by: hyp on October 30, 2007, 04:26:58 AM: another solution to get FUCK AWESOME visuals out of the wii:

plug that shit into a CRT/tube TV. let the hotness burn your retinas.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
it's your only hope
[close]
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Post by: demi on October 30, 2007, 04:34:28 AM: Quote from: etiolate on October 30, 2007, 03:35:31 AM
the Wii is pretty awesome for adventure fans

Zelda
Metroid
SPM
Z&W

In the first year.

Wowzers, four games in one year, that's quite the lineup
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Post by: drohne on October 30, 2007, 05:08:37 AM: couldn't find z+w. but i rented trauma center, which is actually kinda neat. i'm pretty bad at it, but it's somehow fun to remember all these procedures and then try to execute them efficiently. don't know if i'll stick with it, but i'm glad i tried it
Title: Re: wii ownership, day 5: it still sucks
Post by: tiesto on October 30, 2007, 10:05:08 AM: The classic controller is really damn good, only problem I have is the cord coming from the bottom (didn't people learn their lesson with the DC's controllers?) and having to plug it into the Wiimote. A full wireless solution would've been amazing.
Title: Re: wii ownership, day 5: it still sucks
Post by: y2kev on October 30, 2007, 10:33:01 AM: himumu, you ignorant slut, stay away from my ratchet and clank

btw it's more of a platformer than, like, donkey kong 64 was or some garbage. i'm very surprised they even pretended they were "going back to their roots" though, it's still heavily shooting. there are some definite platforming stuff though, and the gelinator makes for some fun jumps.

i love ratchet, but you have to imagine that this is probably not the first game after their new IP insomniac wanted to work on...maybe sony forced them.