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Title: Today is: Near future movie day!
Post by: TVC15 on November 04, 2007, 10:56:57 AM
Already watched:

Children of Men
2001

Currently watching:
Clockwork Orange (today kind of doubles as a mostly Kubrick day)

Suggestions for what's next?  Nobody say 2010, because I want only A+ movies in my marathon!
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Post by: bud on November 04, 2007, 11:00:54 AM
did you watch com on hd-dvd? what's the transfer like? that movie is amazing. like, there are scenes which appear to be all one-shot scenes, but they actually cut in those. i didn't even knew about this until i read about it. and it's one of those movies that actually made me say ''whoa'' when the credits started rolling. also, there's excellent use of cg in the movie.


oh, and... back to the future
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Post by: Ichirou on November 04, 2007, 11:04:03 AM
Back to the Future Part II
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Post by: TVC15 on November 04, 2007, 11:17:55 AM
I might watch COM again.  It was that awesome.
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Post by: Ichirou on November 04, 2007, 11:19:33 AM
Enjoy.
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Post by: TVC15 on November 04, 2007, 11:29:33 AM
Enjoy.

After I watched it, the awesome movie high was so crazy that I almost wanted to say it was my favorite movie ever.  I'm not usually one for that sort of ejaculation :-*, so I walked away pretty impressed.  I felt that Cuaron walked a careful balancing line between preachiness and worthwhile relevance, and in the end, he pulled it off marvelously.  The movie had tons and tons and tons of gorgeous shots.  I'm a sucker for England, and we got to see the country and the city here, and a good bit in between.  And it was a rousing adventure!  With a wonderful, ambivalent ending.  It was the sort of movie you could talk about for hours and hours afterwards. To paraphrase ebert, I loved, loved, loved, loved, loved that movie.  Like, I can't think of a single problem I have with it, and I am usually pretty good about bitching points!

The one duder later on looked like Simon Pegg, and I got over excited and thought it was him, lol.  The movie drps atmosphere, too.  I was so caught up with it.  So realistic, realistic characters, dialogue, even the chaos that erupts at the end, a full on gun fight feels totally authentic.  Cuaron's set a really fucking high bar for himself!
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 04, 2007, 11:43:54 AM
you can't be serious! while i loved the cinematography, the entire middle of the movie was a hokey snooze, and i couldn't take michael caine's dialogue seriously, especially
spoiler (click to show/hide)
when he gets offed
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. were you quaffing robitussin again?
Title: Re: Today is: Near future movie day!
Post by: TVC15 on November 04, 2007, 11:46:36 AM
Nope.  I adored the movie.  I have no idea what you be hatin'!
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Post by: captainbiotch on November 04, 2007, 11:57:55 AM
Ideas...

Minority Report
Terminator
Total Recall
Gattaca
Equilibrium
Brazil
THX1138

Did videodrome take place in the future? I can't recall.

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Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 04, 2007, 11:58:17 AM
PULL MY FINGER
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Post by: TVC15 on November 04, 2007, 12:00:21 PM
Videodrome is either present day or near future.  But even if it is present day, it's still sci fi, so I guess that counts.  I want to check out how it upscales, anyway.

And I don't get the complaints on Michael Caine's acting.  I was kinda ehhhh when I heard he was a stoner hippy, but again, he pulls it off.  There's not a single bad performance in that movie, including like, tertiary characters.
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Post by: captainbiotch on November 04, 2007, 12:12:43 PM
They all act well, but they are all so goddamn depressing.  Its like a chickflick with an awesome gunfight  :'(
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 04, 2007, 12:16:17 PM
I found the film uplifting!
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 04, 2007, 12:18:10 PM
yeah, i did too. the point of the movie is to show how even one broken man can redeem himself, and i felt pretty good after watching it. and the english countryside is beautiful when misty and rain-drenched.
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Post by: Mandark on November 04, 2007, 12:28:08 PM
and the english countryside is beautiful when misty and rain-drenched.

So, on weekdays.
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Post by: Mupepe on November 04, 2007, 12:38:48 PM
the shining for kubrick day.  plus, that could happen to any of us
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Post by: TVC15 on November 04, 2007, 12:42:54 PM
fyi, I don't think I had seen 2001 in its entirety before.  I'm not sure if I caught it on TNT and quit partway through or what, but I distinctly REMEMBER watching it, but I at least don't remember it.  I blame the drugs.  It felt all new this time, at least.  Mayber it was HD MAGIC!
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Post by: TVC15 on November 04, 2007, 12:54:09 PM
Jesus Fuck, WARNER BROTHERS produced A Clockwork Orange.  Would Warner Brothers come within a zillion miles of a movie like this today?
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 04, 2007, 12:56:12 PM
Yes - the PG-13 remake!

COME SEE McG'S BRILLIANT RE-IMAGINING FOR AN ALL NEW AUDIENCE! STARRING SHIA LeBOUF!
Title: Re: Today is: Near future movie day!
Post by: TVC15 on November 04, 2007, 12:57:54 PM
Yes - the PG-13 remake!

COME SEE McG'S BRILLIANT RE-IMAGINING FOR AN ALL NEW AUDIENCE! STARRING SHIA LeBOUF!

AND KIRSTEN DUNST, fresh off the set of PUMPKINHEAD THE REMAKE where she shocked the makeup people by only needing to have her head paled a bit.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 04, 2007, 12:59:06 PM
The Spider-Man franchise is OVER, your barbs no longer carry any weight!
Title: Re: Today is: Near future movie day!
Post by: TVC15 on November 04, 2007, 01:01:03 PM
Oh no, Willco, I may like the ocassional crappy movie, but you, you will always be the man that once masturbated to a character that Kirsten Dunst portrayed!  A pox upon your cox!
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 04, 2007, 01:02:16 PM
I never once wanked it to her!
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Post by: Solo on November 04, 2007, 01:03:28 PM
Wow. I thought for sure Whitey would join the drinky/MAF CoM hate brigade. Cheers for choosing the right side. Easily the best movie of 2006 for me.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 04, 2007, 01:04:30 PM
They are capable of independent though, y'know!
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Post by: TVC15 on November 04, 2007, 01:05:03 PM
Wow. I thought for sure Whitey would join the drinky/MAF CoM hate brigade. Cheers for choosing the right side. Easily the best movie of 2006 for me.

Prole has me second guessing myself, so I may have to rewatch it, but I am pretty confident that the movie is overall awesome. A+++++ WOULD CUARON AGAIN

EDIT:  Wait, what won best picture when this should have?
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Post by: Solo on November 04, 2007, 01:05:58 PM
You are a good man. Now go touch yourself to Alex DeLarge and his band of droogs.
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Post by: TVC15 on November 04, 2007, 01:08:16 PM
I *know* I have seen A Clockwork Orange before.  I was like 14 and I was seeing it because it was a teeheehee naughty movie, so this is basically watching it with new eyes.
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Post by: Mupepe on November 04, 2007, 01:14:09 PM
tvc, all of the kubrick movies are like for me

i got 2001, a clockwork orange and the shining.  all 3 were like completely new movies in HD.  it was like watching it for the first time again.

i'm telling you though, clockwork looks like shit compared to the shining.
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Post by: TVC15 on November 04, 2007, 01:22:09 PM
Argh, I might ditch my theme and go for that. 

EDIT:  Holy motherfucking shit, this movie is so fucking intense.  The contrast between the narration and the action on screen and the music is a total headfuck.  I forgot how effective Kubrick was at pulling everything, and I mean everything, together.  There was nobody else like him!
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Post by: Smooth Groove on November 04, 2007, 01:27:40 PM
Drinky's appraisal of COM is spot on.  Like most poorly done artsy-fartsy films, COM thinks it's much smarter than it really is.  Its story is plodding rather than thought provoking.  The preaching falls flat on its face because neither the delivery nor the content is fresh.  This movie bored me so badly that I wished it had gotten the Wilco treatment with Michael Bay as director and The Rock as an ass-kicking baby protector.  It would kinda be like an updated version of Van Damme's Cyborg. 
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Post by: MrAngryFace on November 04, 2007, 01:42:30 PM
Hrm, i think ill watch Johnny Mnemonic today. Its awesome. Good theme idea.
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 04, 2007, 01:45:21 PM
hey, i don't think com is trash -- far, far from it. i just think it is more of an experience than a total cinematic package. i enjoyed watching it, but i also had a fair few complaints with it. it's an excellent movie and still one of the best of 2006.
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 04, 2007, 01:46:12 PM
Hrm, i think ill watch Johnny Mnemonic today. Its awesome. Good theme idea.

HENRY ROLLINS vs EVIL JESUS
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 04, 2007, 01:48:29 PM
in honor of this event, i shall watch the much-maligned "strange days," a movie i loved as much as everyone else hated it
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Post by: TVC15 on November 04, 2007, 01:49:35 PM
Holy shit, if I would have watched this movie just two years ago, I would have missed so much.  The movie (and I guess the book, by extenson) makes extensive use of Brecht's alienation effect, via use of slang, in order to make you feel disconnected to the characters, all while presenting a somewhat relatable world.  So you have these characters that feel out of place and unrelatable in a world that feels just about comparatively normal.
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Post by: captainbiotch on November 04, 2007, 01:50:43 PM
How good is the ACO transfer?  BD or HD?
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Post by: TVC15 on November 04, 2007, 01:51:38 PM
BD, and it's great looking.
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 04, 2007, 01:52:32 PM
the book is thick with burgess' patois -- it is there, like you said, to point out to you that you are NOT part of the alex' subculture, and that you are a rational observer peering in at him through a microscope.
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Post by: bud on November 04, 2007, 01:53:20 PM
Drinky's appraisal of COM is spot on.  Like most poorly done artsy-fartsy films, COM thinks it's much smarter than it really is.  Its story is plodding rather than thought provoking.  The preaching falls flat on its face because neither the delivery nor the content is fresh.  This movie bored me so badly that I wished it had gotten the Wilco treatment with Michael Bay as director and The Rock as an ass-kicking baby protector.  It would kinda be like an updated version of Van Damme's Cyborg. 


your taste in movies might just be worse than pd's.
Title: Re: Today is: Near future movie day!
Post by: TVC15 on November 04, 2007, 02:01:47 PM
Jesus Christ, what actor would be able to take the part of Alex and LIVE with himself afterwards?  Why, Malcolm McDowell, the very same man to go on to star in Evilbore's favorite mastertastrophe. . ..the 90s remake of Fantasy Island!
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Post by: Smooth Groove on November 04, 2007, 02:06:43 PM
Drinky's appraisal of COM is spot on.  Like most poorly done artsy-fartsy films, COM thinks it's much smarter than it really is.  Its story is plodding rather than thought provoking.  The preaching falls flat on its face because neither the delivery nor the content is fresh.  This movie bored me so badly that I wished it had gotten the Wilco treatment with Michael Bay as director and The Rock as an ass-kicking baby protector.  It would kinda be like an updated version of Van Damme's Cyborg. 


your taste in movies might just be worse than pd's.

It's a close call.  :lol

(http://www.evilbore.com/images/unforgiven.jpg)
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 04, 2007, 02:08:51 PM
truly willco's greatest photoshop
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Post by: TVC15 on November 04, 2007, 02:09:54 PM
That poster needs to be updated. . .Ian McKellan has the market cornered on gay wizard roles.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 04, 2007, 03:45:35 PM
Children of Men: 9.5

drinky's just mad owen wasn't nude in the film
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Post by: Gay Boy on November 04, 2007, 04:35:56 PM
COM...meh. Cuaron has done better work with y tu mama tambien and potter.
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Post by: Himu on November 04, 2007, 04:38:56 PM
tvc you hadn't seen clockwork before? you acting like you never saw it buddy
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Post by: warcock on November 04, 2007, 04:48:09 PM
What is this about lust,caution and tony leung. Then i hear the words ang lee uttered and shiver. I need a healthy serving of chinese bad assery :(. Both my muses have lost their testosterone producing glands in search of fame and glory. Elaborate on this Lust,caution evilborgots. Hookers are socially insignificant.
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Post by: Himu on November 04, 2007, 04:49:27 PM
Chow Young Fat :( Jackie Chan :( Jet Li :(

they all kind of suck now
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Post by: warcock on November 04, 2007, 04:54:00 PM
Chow yun fat et. John Woo, never again should their names be tainted by distinguished mentally-challenged love stories, chinese middle age flying circuses or hollywood flubs.

"
Ang Lee's "Lust, Caution" is first languid, then passionate, as it tells the story of a young woman who joins a political murder plot and then becomes emotionally involved with her enemy. It begins at a 1942 Mah-Jongg game in Hong Kong, when erotic undertones become clearly audible to us, and then flashes back to Shanghai, 1938, during the Japanese occupation of China. One of the rich ladies at the game table is revealed to have been a college student, and not really the wife of a wealthy (but unseen) tycoon."

Why. I sincerly do not know why i still keep track of threads here they always end in dissapointment.
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Post by: CajoleJuice on November 04, 2007, 05:15:12 PM
YES TVC WOOO

I still haven't met anyone else in real-life that loved CoM. :-\

It should have at least won Best Cinematography over Pan's, which is why I was elated when it lost Best Foreign Language Film.
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Post by: TVC15 on November 04, 2007, 05:49:09 PM
lrn 2 reed Himu, I have seen Clockwork before.
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Post by: TVC15 on November 04, 2007, 06:51:44 PM
zomg, in this interview/retrospective on malcolm mcdowell, he is telling Caligula anecdotes!

This is fucking awesome!  Even the special features are in HD!!!

HD!!! HD!!!! HD!!!!!! AWESOME SPECIAL FEATURES!!!! CUMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


 :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow
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Post by: Himu on November 04, 2007, 07:04:20 PM
lrn 2 reed Himu, I have seen Clockwork before.

it's just you were acting like you hadn't seen it before sorry you don't have to be so mean  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on November 04, 2007, 07:08:07 PM
after seeing The Shining in HD last night, I have been acting like I'd never seen it before (it was the sixth or seventh time I've seen it)

wow just wow, HD makes movies worth watching again :bow :bow :bow
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Post by: TVC15 on November 04, 2007, 07:14:43 PM
I am unwrapping the Shining!  This has turned into a full on Kubrick marathon.

That awesome ***HD*** interview/retrospective with Malcolm (with clips!  CLIPS!) almost had me pulling out Time After Time, and a certain other McDowell movie and turning this into a McDowell marathon!

HD! HD! HD!
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Post by: TVC15 on November 04, 2007, 11:47:58 PM
I give up!  I just finished the shining and I am movied out. . .

Children of Men
2001
A Clockwork Orange
1.25 hour long documentary/interview with Malcolm McDowell
The Shining

Full Metal Jacket and Eyes Wide Shut will have to wait.

What could next weekend's (attempted) theme be?
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Post by: Ichirou on November 05, 2007, 12:34:42 AM
Recommendations:

Malcolm McDowell night.  If..., O Lucky Man!, Tank Girl, Star Trek Generations, Clockwork Orange, and Caligula.

Foreign crime caper night. Grand Slam, Non Touchez Pas Au Grisbi, Rififi, and Le Samourai.
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Post by: TVC15 on November 05, 2007, 12:36:48 AM
Time After Time will be included in any potential Malcolm McDowell night.  Probably at the expense of either Tank Girl or Star Trek Generations.  Or both, maybe.
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 05, 2007, 12:38:43 AM
immoral wars night! full metal jacket, platoon, hamburger hill, mash, thin red line, and apocalypse now!
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Post by: TVC15 on November 05, 2007, 12:42:02 AM
Hamburger Hill was the Transformers of Nam movies, man!  Lemme replace it with Rambo III!  Or should that have been in near future day?
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 05, 2007, 12:44:32 AM
my dad LOVED hamburger hill -- called it the only quasi-realistic depiction of fighting in 'nam filmed. i fell asleep during it.
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Post by: Ichirou on November 05, 2007, 12:45:30 AM
Time After Time will be included in any potential Malcolm McDowell night.  Probably at the expense of either Tank Girl or Star Trek Generations.  Or both, maybe.

I didn't notice you had Time After Time on DVD.  That is one awesome movie.

Oh, what about a David Warner sci-fi night?  Acclaimed Shakespearean actor selling out to do cheap sci-fi schlock.  You could start at his high point and work your way down:

Time After Time
Tron
Star Trek V: The Final Frontier (as a Federation ambassador...)
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country (...and then somehow he's become Chancellor of the Klingon Empire)
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: The Secret of the Ooze (the man behind the secret of the Ooze!)
Wing Commander
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 05, 2007, 12:48:42 AM
mmmm, tron. the dude cyberabides!
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Post by: TVC15 on November 05, 2007, 12:50:17 AM
I'd like at least most of the movies to be, you know, good Ichirou.  They don't have to be all classics, but good!

Doing these theme days is fun, even if this one did get derailed halfway through.  Giant Sex TV makes it seem like I have a movie screen in my apartment!  With better picture.
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Post by: Ichirou on November 05, 2007, 12:51:46 AM
You can still do a David Warner night and have it be good, but it'd have to be...not focused on his sci-fi works.
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Post by: TVC15 on November 05, 2007, 12:55:50 AM
You can still do a David Warner night and have it be good, but it'd have to be...not focused on his sci-fi works.

Looks like he has done an extensive amount of US TV work, from the 90s Batman cartoon (as Al Ghul!) to Twin Peaks, to Dinosaurs, to Gargoyles.
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Post by: Ichirou on November 05, 2007, 12:58:52 AM
Foreign crime caper night!

Le Samourai
The Red Circle
Rififi
Non Touchez Pas Au Grisbi
Grand Slam
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Post by: TVC15 on November 05, 2007, 01:11:15 AM
Hmmm, I could swap something from that out for Bande a Part and I would be good
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Post by: Smooth Groove on November 05, 2007, 01:32:54 AM
I give up!  I just finished the shining and I am movied out. . .

Children of Men
2001
A Clockwork Orange
1.25 hour long documentary/interview with Malcolm McDowell
The Shining

Full Metal Jacket and Eyes Wide Shut will have to wait.

What could next weekend's (attempted) theme be?


Get me some caps of Nicole Kidman's cupcakes in HD. 
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Post by: Ichirou on November 05, 2007, 01:35:07 AM
Get me some caps of Nicole Kidman's cupcakes in HD. 

I second that request.
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Post by: Solo on November 05, 2007, 07:46:26 AM
I too just watched A Clockwork Orange on HD-DVD yesterday Whitey, and its incredible how much of an improvement this transfer is over what previously existed. Also, watching it again for the first time in years, what was previously a middle of the road Kubrick for me, I now think I would place at #2, JUST below 2001. So yeah, I fully endorse the ACO love. The McDowell retrospective is great too. I loved his reaction to the dildo question, and his impersonation of the actor playing the crippled old man in ACO. These HD Kubrick sets are a godsend. And if ACO's transfer is considered to be "weak" compared to the others, then I am in for a real treat.
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Post by: Bloodwake on November 05, 2007, 09:34:38 AM
COM...meh. Cuaron has done better work with y tu mama tambien and potter.

LOL. I'm sorry, and I'm a fan of the Harry Potter movies, but there's no fucking way that you just said Prisoner of Azkaban was better than Children of Men.

Hell, Azkaban was one of my favorite Potter movies, but in terms of filmmaking and overall quality, Children of Men is a much, much, much, much, much better movie.

Damn, I want to see it in HD NOW.
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Post by: Bloodwake on November 05, 2007, 09:35:59 AM
God damn you guys by the way. Amazon still hasn't sent my Blu-Ray set for A Clockwork Orange

 :-\
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Post by: bud on November 05, 2007, 10:30:05 AM
COM...meh. Cuaron has done better work with y tu mama tambien and potter.

cheebs, are you for real.
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Post by: TVC15 on November 05, 2007, 01:03:34 PM
I too just watched A Clockwork Orange on HD-DVD yesterday Whitey, and its incredible how much of an improvement this transfer is over what previously existed. Also, watching it again for the first time in years, what was previously a middle of the road Kubrick for me, I now think I would place at #2, JUST below 2001. So yeah, I fully endorse the ACO love. The McDowell retrospective is great too. I loved his reaction to the dildo question, and his impersonation of the actor playing the crippled old man in ACO. These HD Kubrick sets are a godsend. And if ACO's transfer is considered to be "weak" compared to the others, then I am in for a real treat.

You know Solo, I have to echo Mupepe and say that the Shining transfer is even better.  Like, there are shots that didn't even stand out in that movie that are now total classics to me.  Things I never even came close to remembering before. 2001 probably has the best of the transfers so far, but that's a great looking movie to begin with, whereas with The Shining, a movie I have seen a zillion times and have also seen fairly recently, it was like watching a whole new movie.

Those tracking shots of the car in the beginning in HD :o  That's some of the best cinematography I have ever seen, and it looks even better now.  All the scare shots :o  The dog/bear guy in HD :o  Anything that happens in the gold room :o  Jack's incredible performance in HD :o

For whatever reason, I gon't remember the movie looking near this good.  It probably doesn't really stand up to the Iconic Shot Every 30 Seconds-ness of 2001 and A Clockwork Orange, but it's still better looking than 95% of the movies out there.  Before this fewing, outside a few of the classic close ups, I only remembered this movie for its famous steadicam shots.
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Post by: Solo on November 05, 2007, 01:10:01 PM
Awesome. I was gonna do 2001 next, being my fav Kubrick and all, but youve convinced me to go for The Shining first. Ill eventually get EWS and FMJ too, just because Im a Kubrick junkie and a completionist.

If ACO is any indication, Kubricks films are a match made in heaven on HD formats.
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Post by: TVC15 on November 05, 2007, 02:14:50 PM
Watching these all, and then reading up on the movies afterwards (don't want to spoil my viewings or taint my own interpretation), it's shockingly obvious that almsot none of his movies were very well received upon release, except for Full Metal Jacket and the pre-2001 stuff, and even that wasn't ranking things as classic.  Full Metal Jacket is, of course, viewed as a mixed bag today, but everything before is seen as a total, round the boards classic.  For this reason, I am very very excited for my second viewing of Eyes Wide Shut, though I am keeping my expectations as low as humanly possible.

But 2001, A Clockwork Orange, Barry Lyndon, the Shining. . .all were critical mixed bags on release.
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Post by: Solo on November 06, 2007, 08:09:12 AM
I think for sheer variety of genre alone, and for mastery of each genre, I am shockingly close to bumping Kubrick past Leone into my favorite director slot. Watching all these movies in a compressed time period really smacks you over the head with how incredible of a filmmaker Kubrick was. I like Leone's style more, but he never ventured too far off the beaten path/displayed a lot of range. Kubrick made the best sci-fi movie ever, the best comedy ever, one of the best horror movies ever, one of the greatest historical epics ever, and one of the best whatever-you-want-to-classify-ACO-as movies ever. There certainly isnt a director working today that is worthy of holding his jock strap.
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Post by: bud on November 06, 2007, 08:10:27 AM
COM...meh. Cuaron has done better work with y tu mama tambien and potter.

cheebs, are you for real.
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Post by: TVC15 on November 06, 2007, 08:12:42 AM
I know Solo.  I don't know how I never noticed, but every single one of his movies is totally different.  Not just in setting and sort of plot, but also in themes, and in the devices he uses to convey those themes.  I don't recall ACO and The Shining being so deep and thematically rich, but my mouth was basically hanging open!
Title: Re: Today is: Near future movie day!
Post by: Solo on November 06, 2007, 08:40:54 AM
Yup. ACO really hit me hard this time too. I dont know if I wasnt paying attention/was too young or whatever when I had watched ACO in years past, but it was like seeing a new movie.

I also love how despite tackling so many genres and themes, there is a definite Kubrick style. He is one of those directors who you know whose film it is without seeing their name. Most of it with Kubrick is due to cinematography. He operated his own cameras a lot, and he was also a photographer. The shot composition and framing is really what strikes me the most about his work. Its darn near flawless. The Shining is a fantastic example of this. He also loves static shots, and when his camera does move, its usually slow and methodical. There are about a billion frames from his films that I would love to have prints of just to hang on my wall.

And his musical choices are impeccable.
Title: Re: Today is: Near future movie day!
Post by: TVC15 on November 06, 2007, 08:42:27 AM
I'm really excited to check out Full Metal Jacket and Eyes Wide Shut again.  I know I have to keep my expectations in check, but I am really expecting them to feel like new movies, too!  I know they won't be as great as his early stuff, but still, maybe these movies I never thought of as great before will be great with my new, more educated viewings.
Title: Re: Today is: Near future movie day!
Post by: Solo on November 06, 2007, 08:48:33 AM
I really hope whoever owns the rights to Paths of Glory and The Killing and especially Strangelove get on the HD bandwagon soon. Also, WB needs to remedy the fact that they only put the reissue of Lyndon out on DVD, not BRD/HD DVD.
Title: Re: Today is: Near future movie day!
Post by: TVC15 on November 06, 2007, 08:49:56 AM
Yes to all of those!  Is Strangelove (or any of the older ones) in widescreen?  I forget what year widescreen got big.

Also, I really wouldn't mind Lolita and Spartacus on BD.
Title: Re: Today is: Near future movie day!
Post by: bud on November 06, 2007, 08:52:01 AM
i've only seen a handful of kubrick films. :-\
Title: Re: Today is: Near future movie day!
Post by: Solo on November 06, 2007, 08:57:28 AM
Yes to all of those!  Is Strangelove (or any of the older ones) in widescreen?  I forget what year widescreen got big.

Also, I really wouldn't mind Lolita and Spartacus on BD.

Pretty much all Kubricks were open matte. Shown in widescreen in theatres, and full screen for home video. Thankfully, these new releases are finally fixing that, giving us the theatrical ratios. Usually 1.66 for Kubrick stuff, but of course there are exceptions like 2001 and its 2.20 ratio.
Title: Re: Today is: Near future movie day!
Post by: Ichirou on November 06, 2007, 09:17:45 AM
I think everything after Spartacus was shot open matte, wasn't it?  Because Kubrick didn't like how his movies looked when they were panned and scanned for TV?
Title: Re: Today is: Near future movie day!
Post by: Solo on November 06, 2007, 02:40:27 PM
Yup. He knew how his movies would be presented in home video, and didnt want to have them butchered, so he avoided the problem from the outset. Hell, stuff like The Shining you can tell was shot for the 4:3 television ratio. The way the movie is framed is always very "box-y" and square. I was worried how it would look opened up for 16:9 displays, but apparently it looks great and doesnt destroy the film. Ill find out for myself hopefully tonight.
Title: Re: Today is: Near future movie day!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on November 06, 2007, 02:44:25 PM
I still need to watch Black Book on Blu-ray...
Title: Re: Today is: Near future movie day!
Post by: TVC15 on November 06, 2007, 03:37:40 PM
I still need to watch Black Book on Blu-ray...

Let me know how that is, in every aspect.  I am curious, but not curious enough to jump on it blind.  Verhoeven's output is mixed at best, and it appears his best years are behind him, but still, foreign film in HD!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Today is: Near future movie day!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on November 06, 2007, 03:39:15 PM
I'm going to try and watch it tonight while my wife is at class (evening MBA at Seattle U).
Title: Re: Today is: Near future movie day!
Post by: Solo on November 07, 2007, 07:48:58 AM
Call me crazy (as I contradict every review of the sets I have read), but I found that The Shining's HD DVD IQ wasn't nearly as impressive as A Clockwork Orange's. And I still think that, while awesome, The Shining is definately a lesser work from Kubrick.
Title: Re: Today is: Near future movie day!
Post by: Gay Boy on November 07, 2007, 08:46:03 AM
i've only seen a handful of kubrick films. :-\
what ones?

I am so angry at myself for buying 2001 and clockwork last week on dvd since now I got a hd-dvd player.  :-\ I can't buy 2001 twice in less than a week...
Title: Re: Today is: Near future movie day!
Post by: bud on November 07, 2007, 08:56:59 AM
off the top of my head:

fmj
shining
2001
strangelove
clockwork

i remember having seen bits and pieces of ews, but that's about it iirc.
Title: Re: Today is: Near future movie day!
Post by: Solo on November 07, 2007, 11:18:10 AM
i've only seen a handful of kubrick films. :-\
what ones?

I am so angry at myself for buying 2001 and clockwork last week on dvd since now I got a hd-dvd player.  :-\ I can't buy 2001 twice in less than a week...

Heh, the Kubrick HD DVDs were pretty much the reason that I finally bit the bullet and got the HD DVD player, and I already feel like my purchase has been validated. Home video sets of the year.
Title: Re: Today is: Near future movie day!
Post by: Bloodwake on November 07, 2007, 11:21:55 AM
after seeing The Shining in HD last night, I have been acting like I'd never seen it before (it was the sixth or seventh time I've seen it)

wow just wow, HD makes movies worth watching again :bow :bow :bow

It really does. I love HD media.
Title: Re: Today is: Near future movie day!
Post by: TVC15 on November 07, 2007, 05:22:18 PM
Call me crazy (as I contradict every review of the sets I have read), but I found that The Shining's HD DVD IQ wasn't nearly as impressive as A Clockwork Orange's. And I still think that, while awesome, The Shining is definately a lesser work from Kubrick.

Aside from 2001, I don't think any of the transfers were like, significantly better than the others.  I think a lot of this may have to do with me not remembering how many damned good shots there were in the Shining, like in the beginning.  A Clockwork Orange, I've always remembered that as every frame being a work of art.  Outside of that cinematography aspect, I think the technical prowess of the trasnfers was comparable.  I'm not sure if I could pick a winner on technical transfer merit, but The Shining was more of a shock, because I just didn't remember it being filled with that many iconic shots.

So, I dunno, I don't think you are crazy.  They all have such sufficiently great transfers that it is difficult to declare a victor.  The Shining does have some flaws you can see on the film (for example, watch closely in the classic scene of Jack menacingly making Shelley Duvall back up the stairs in the room he is writing in.  You can see artifacts and flaws in the film pretty clearly in one portion of that scene).
Title: Re: Today is: Near future movie day!
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on November 07, 2007, 05:47:45 PM
yeah, for me it's not that The Shining transfer was the "best" so much as it was the greatest revelation compared to previous viewings
Title: Re: Today is: Near future movie day!
Post by: TVC15 on November 07, 2007, 05:53:19 PM
A Clockwork Orange and 2001 really have that whole Every Frame is a Work of Art thing going on.  2001 is :o

I like how Kubrick takes you to the edge in 2001, a point where you think things can't get any more megaton awesome, and then he totally goes over the top into like, Fucking Religious territory for the ending in that weird Victorian room.  That part is like Golden Hour, magical shit on like every level imaginable.  It made me fucking shiver, with every camera angle change :o
Title: Re: Today is: Near future movie day!
Post by: Solo on November 08, 2007, 07:21:25 AM
Yeah, 2001 is fucking iconic in every frame. The dawn of man. The space waltz. The monolith on Jupiter. The infinite beyond. My infinite fap! It gives me the chills too, Whitey. Especially when they make the final cut back from the monolith to Dave, who is no longer a dying old man, but the starchild, and Also Sprach Zarathustra chimes back in. Epic.