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Title: Shall we cut through the bullshit? Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops is Portable Ass
Post by: TVC15 on November 05, 2007, 01:04:35 AM

And yes, and a handful of dust was tossed in my eyes in the form of its pretty visuals, but really, the magic didn't last for two full play sessions.  Anyone that still thinks this is a good game is deluding themselves.

Biggest problem?  Taking a game with notoriously fiddly controls and trying to cram the same control scheme into fewer buttons just doesn't work.  The proof in this pudding tastes like. . .the insanely low difficulty level, even for an MGS game; lowered to compensate for the game's controls that would make flat out RE-style tank controls seem like they had the finesse of an especially fancy mime.  These two critical flaws, in my opinion, cancel out the neat-ish gameplay structure.

Maybe konami focused on the multiplayer mode that nobody in existence has ever played in history.  Wise use of resources, and wise to see that's what the rehash is also focusing on.  Hot tip, Konami, if you do another one of these on the PSP, save us the headaches by shitcanning that whole third dimension thing.  Actually, you should consider doing that in the core series, too.  You clearly have no idea what the fuck you are doing.

Title: Re: Shall we cut through the bullshit? Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops is Portable
Post by: brawndolicious on November 05, 2007, 01:10:08 AM

so it was too easy and had a bad camera?  is that something hardcore fans (I'm not a fan) could get used to?

probably the worst MGS game was Ac!d.  the game was so easy that anybody could beat it as long as you didn't shoot the barrels next to you.  the big problem was that one small room with maybe 5 enemies would take half an hour.

I also agree that MGS probably can't work at all on a portable unless 2D.

Title: Re: Shall we cut through the bullshit? Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops is Portable Ass
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 05, 2007, 01:12:02 AM

BOBOBOBOOBOB MGS

Title: Re: Shall we cut through the bullshit? Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops is Portable Ass
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 05, 2007, 01:14:25 AM

ac!d 2 fucking rocked. portable ops was clumsy, unplayable crap.

Title: Re: Shall we cut through the bullshit? Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops is Portable
Post by: brawndolicious on November 05, 2007, 01:15:09 AM

what'd they change in ac!d 2?

Title: Re: Shall we cut through the bullshit? Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops is Portable Ass
Post by: TVC15 on November 05, 2007, 01:15:50 AM

I like Acid 2, and I can probably still admit that Acid 1 was a decent enough launch game, or at least interesting enough.

Title: Re: Shall we cut through the bullshit? Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops is Portable
Post by: brawndolicious on November 05, 2007, 01:16:51 AM

I played a friend's psp, I think he said the story was the strong part.

Title: Re: Shall we cut through the bullshit? Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops is Portable Ass
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 05, 2007, 01:17:23 AM

nintenho: better graphics; better interface; faster gameplay; and much MUCH better map layouts. they also added ridiculous boob bounce.

Title: Re: Shall we cut through the bullshit? Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops is Portable
Post by: brawndolicious on November 05, 2007, 01:18:19 AM

that sounds good.

Title: Re: Shall we cut through the bullshit? Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops is Portable
Post by: Smooth Groove on November 05, 2007, 01:21:38 AM

Quote from: TVC 15 on November 05, 2007, 01:04:35 AM

Biggest problem?  Taking a game with notoriously fiddly controls and trying to cram the same control scheme into fewer buttons just doesn't work.  The proof in this pudding tastes like. . .the insanely low difficulty level, even for an MGS game; lowered to compensate for the game's controls that would make flat out RE-style tank controls seem like they had the finesse of an especially fancy mime.  These two critical flaws, in my opinion, cancel out the neat-ish gameplay structure.

What do you mean by "even for an MGS game"?  MGS games are pretty challenging even on Normal and the higher difficulties are really hard. 

I think that the control problems have more to do with the PSP's poor analog nub than Konami.  I was able to handle the controls after awhile.  A bigger problem is the shitty camera that doesn't let you see far enough to play in a stealthy manner.  I can't count the number of times that I ran into an enemy that was just 5 feet away.  The weird radar doesn't help much.  Konami should have compensated for the poor camera with a much effective radar, even if it had diminished the realism. 

I love MGS but I only played MGS:PO halfway through because the annoyances were just too much. 

Title: Re: Shall we cut through the bullshit? Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops is Portable Ass
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on November 05, 2007, 04:46:29 AM

I've PSP-less, but I wanted to give props to Subsistence's online multiplayer, which was pretty awesome/short lived.  I usually got wasted pretty quick, but watching the high-level players after the fact never ceased to be entertaining.  If only Konami hadn't pulled the plug as I was starting to get slightly better then mediocre.

And should a PSP ever find its way into my hands, the first game I fire up will likely be a Konami product.  They've just put out way too much awesomeness to ignore.

Title: Re: Shall we cut through the bullshit? Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops is Portable
Post by: The Sceneman on November 05, 2007, 06:49:27 AM

This thread ironically has the exact opposite title: http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=5103.0

He also bagged Blue Dragon! See: http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=11998.msg286309#msg286309

Title: Re: Shall we cut through the bullshit? Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops is Portable
Post by: bork on November 05, 2007, 09:57:36 AM

Portable Ops is fine, and gets more challenging the further you get into it.  The game is really all about recruiting and getting shit though; it's MGS Pokemon.   :P  Playing it at 333mhz makes it a hell of a lot smoother, too. 

I do wish that they went with the cell shading style of Ac!d 2 though.  That game looks nice...I need to play it, come to think of it.  I'm not much for strategy games, but I do like Ac!d.

Title: Re: Shall we cut through the bullshit? Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops is Portable Ass
Post by: SpudBud on November 05, 2007, 10:46:56 AM

I still haven't finished MGS:PO. The controls irritated me and this is coming from a big fan on MGS.

Title: Re: Shall we cut through the bullshit? Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops is Portable Ass
Post by: Himu on November 05, 2007, 10:47:42 AM

MGA owned. Haven't played MGA2

I've wanted MGS: PO =/

Title: Re: Shall we cut through the bullshit? Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops is Portable Ass
Post by: SpudBud on November 05, 2007, 10:53:27 AM

I really enjoyed MGA, it was the first PSP game I bought. I haven't played MGA 2. I should rent that sometime.

Title: Re: Shall we cut through the bullshit? Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops is Portable
Post by: APF on November 05, 2007, 12:16:42 PM

Personally I couldn't stand the cell-shading in MGA2 (liked the game though), plus I had a very very hard time trying to get into MG:PO.

Title: Re: Shall we cut through the bullshit? Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops is Portable Ass
Post by: TVC15 on November 05, 2007, 01:09:37 PM

Quote from: Smooth Groove on November 05, 2007, 01:21:38 AM

Quote from: TVC 15 on November 05, 2007, 01:04:35 AM

Biggest problem?  Taking a game with notoriously fiddly controls and trying to cram the same control scheme into fewer buttons just doesn't work.  The proof in this pudding tastes like. . .the insanely low difficulty level, even for an MGS game; lowered to compensate for the game's controls that would make flat out RE-style tank controls seem like they had the finesse of an especially fancy mime.  These two critical flaws, in my opinion, cancel out the neat-ish gameplay structure.

What do you mean by "even for an MGS game"?  MGS games are pretty challenging even on Normal and the higher difficulties are really hard.

Dude, MGS games are easy. I played through 2 and 3 on hard or very hard, and I am generally a pussy gamer.   Three is another game where they let the gameplay mechanics get away from them so they compensated by making the game easier.

Title: Re: Shall we cut through the bullshit? Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops is Portable
Post by: bluemax on November 05, 2007, 01:46:13 PM

I enjoyed MGS:PO for about 15 hours or so but after awhile the formula got a little stagnate.

The big problem to me is that there's no real variety to the gameplay. Each mission requires pretty much the same strategy. The recruiting aspect is fun until you realize that there's not a lot to do with the guys you have.

The boss fights were a mixed bag because of the controls. While its easy enough to sneak around and knock dudes out, actually trying to fight anyone is kind of bleh. And the part where you fight the

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was annoying because IIRC there wasn't anything in the gameplay up to that point that really educated you on how to play that fight.

So yeah, fun for awhile but was maybe 2-3 hours longer than it needed to be with too many stale environments.

Title: Re: Shall we cut through the bullshit? Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops is Portable Ass
Post by: Rman on November 06, 2007, 11:37:45 AM

I've been meaning to pick Portable Ops.  I won't now.  Thanks, TVC.  I was hesitant about playing MGS on portable.  Those games should stay on console.  Also, while I loved MGS3, I could not stand the clunky controls and from your impressions it appears that it's only gotten worse with the PSP incarnation of the series.

Title: Re: Shall we cut through the bullshit? Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops is Portable Ass
Post by: Bloodwake on November 07, 2007, 11:38:44 AM

I've pretty much stayed away from all of the MGS games on the PSP for good reason.

MGS4, though, will kick all ass ever in the history of kicking or ass.