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Title: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 13, 2006, 01:53:47 PM
I'm going to rent Evil Dead tonight, as well as two other movies. What should I get bitches?

I want something that's either action or horror oriented. NO DRAMAS UNLESS IT'S TOM HANKS

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Post by: The Fake Shemp on October 13, 2006, 01:55:33 PM
Evil Dead II
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Post by: TVC15 on October 13, 2006, 02:19:39 PM
Audition
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on October 13, 2006, 02:20:23 PM
Fuck Audition.
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: TVC15 on October 13, 2006, 02:21:07 PM
Fuck Audition.

It's better than both Spider-man movies, and shorter!

Also get Jacob's Ladder.
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on October 13, 2006, 02:22:37 PM
It feels longer than both Spider-Man movies combined and it sucks.  Takashi Miike's most overrated film ever.

Jacob's Ladder is at least a good recommendation.
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Post by: Solo on October 13, 2006, 02:23:37 PM
Jacob's Ladder thirded. Its what the Silent Hill games wanted to be.
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 13, 2006, 02:25:59 PM
Audition
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Post by: TVC15 on October 13, 2006, 02:26:08 PM
It feels longer than both Spider-Man movies combined and it sucks.  Takashi Miike's most overrated film ever.

Jacob's Ladder is at least a good recommendation.

Fine, get either Ichi the Killer or Audition.  Those are the only two Miike's your store is likely to have.  They're both good, WIllco just fell into the hype when Audition was getting a lot of it.  You have the luxury of coming in after the hype, so no unrealistic expectations for you.  You'd like it.
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 13, 2006, 02:28:54 PM
Audition

I don't watch movies to read! No subtitles.

Evil Dead
*Heat?
_______?


*I saw the bank scene on Youtube, and it rocked. Best shooting I've ever seen in a movie.
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: TVC15 on October 13, 2006, 02:29:43 PM
ANd PD, we TOLD you to watch ED2 before the first one.  I will guarantee you won't like ED, you will come in here and be like WHY DID YOU GUYS HYPE THIS?  Watch ED2 first -- in this day and age, I doubt there are many people that can truly appreciate ED without watching (and getting) its sequel first.  It's dated, fakey, and serious, but those traits become endearing when viewed from the light of the sequel.

Don't get fucking Heat.  That movie makes Spider-man 2 feel short.  And it's shitty and boring.
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 13, 2006, 02:37:38 PM
ANd PD, we TOLD you to watch ED2 before the first one.  I will guarantee you won't like ED, you will come in here and be like WHY DID YOU GUYS HYPE THIS?  Watch ED2 first -- in this day and age, I doubt there are many people that can truly appreciate ED without watching (and getting) its sequel first.  It's dated, fakey, and serious, but those traits become endearing when viewed from the light of the sequel.

Don't get fucking Heat.  That movie makes Spider-man 2 feel short.  And it's shitty and boring.

FINE I'll get Evil Dead 2. You guys just want me to get confused and not know what's going on. How will I know how Ash lost his hand?  :(

No Heat. Hmmm...what about Million Dollar Baby? I never saw it
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on October 13, 2006, 02:39:19 PM
a) Evil Dead II does not need the original whatsoever.  It pretty much pretends the original does not exist (long story).  There is almost zero continuitiy.

b) Ash doesn't lose his hand in the original.
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: TVC15 on October 13, 2006, 02:46:12 PM
Evil Dead 2 is pretty much a remake of the original movie, dude.  A far superior remake.
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 13, 2006, 02:48:02 PM
Sounds like a stupid movie making decision to me!
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Post by: TVC15 on October 13, 2006, 02:51:16 PM
Sounds like a stupid movie making decision to me!

Consider that they were made by the director of the Spider-man movies.
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on October 13, 2006, 02:52:36 PM
Wasn't Raimi's fault.  He wanted to do a brief montage recapping The Evil Dead using footage from the original, but was unable to due to legal rights bullcrap.  So he kind of re-shot the original in a very condensed form, and consolidated the original players to just two characters.

But yeah, it's a lot better than the original.  I always said play 'em backwards.
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 13, 2006, 02:53:22 PM
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/search/movie.php?search=Evil+Dead&searchby=movies

wtf, 100%? I expected much less. Oh well I'll get it
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: TVC15 on October 13, 2006, 02:55:23 PM
Wasn't Raimi's fault.  He wanted to do a brief montage recapping The Evil Dead using footage from the original, but was unable to due to legal rights bullcrap.  So he kind of re-shot the original in a very condensed form, and consolidated the original players to just two characters.

But yeah, it's a lot better than the original.  I always said play 'em backwards.

Ah, I had never heard that before.  Makes sense.  Didn't the montake at the beginning of AoD use reshot footage of ED2, also?

I guess Raimi figured that rather than shooting a montage, it would just be better to redo the elements that appear in the first one, and once he decided to do that, he probably pretty much rewrote the entire movie.  Interesting.
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 13, 2006, 02:57:47 PM
also Angel Heart for hot hot hot Lisa Bonet voodoo sex action.
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on October 13, 2006, 03:19:42 PM
Didn't the montake at the beginning of AoD use reshot footage of ED2, also?

Yeah, he was able to incorporate footage from Evil Dead II into Army of Darkness, although there is a continuity error because the end of Evil Dead II doesn't jive with the beginning of Army of Darkness (but it's overlooked).

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I guess Raimi figured that rather than shooting a montage, it would just be better to redo the elements that appear in the first one, and once he decided to do that, he probably pretty much rewrote the entire movie.  Interesting.

Yeah, that's pretty much what went down.  There's a lack of real continuity to the series that Raimi finds annoying, and is the big reason why he is in favor of a remake.
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: Ecrofirt on October 13, 2006, 03:21:53 PM
Audition sucks shrivelled donkey balls while giving the reach around to Dick Cheney. Yea, it's that bad. I said it.
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: TVC15 on October 13, 2006, 03:28:43 PM
Audition sucks shrivelled donkey balls while giving the reach around to Dick Cheney. Yea, it's that bad. I said it.

You only say that cuz you can't read.
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 13, 2006, 03:29:10 PM
 :violin
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on October 13, 2006, 03:32:15 PM
No, Audition was pretty mediocre.  My idea for an American romantic comedy remake (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71452) is a much better film.  We can still make it happen!

MARK RUFFALO. JASON LEE. KATE HUDSON.

AUDITION
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: CajoleJuice on October 13, 2006, 03:37:09 PM
Littering and...

Littering and...

Littering and...
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 13, 2006, 03:37:48 PM
Is there really nudity in the movie?

And I heard someone gets their cock cut off with some floss
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on October 13, 2006, 03:40:14 PM
I really don't remember nudity.  I know there is sex. It was very violent and some parts are grotesque.  I chalk this up to another movie White Man likes simply because it's morbid.  If you put enough fucked up shit in a movie, he'll buy it.
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 13, 2006, 03:42:05 PM
White Man seems like he'd be the ultamite emo kid.
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on October 13, 2006, 03:44:21 PM
Not really, I just think the pushing the boundaries of what is accepted in society, whether it be sex or violence (or both, because he also likes Crash), piques his cinematic interest.

And gives him a rock hard erection.
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: TVC15 on October 13, 2006, 03:44:26 PM
I really don't remember nudity.  I know there is sex. It was very violent and some parts are grotesque.  I chalk this up to another movie White Man likes simply because it's morbid.  If you put enough fucked up shit in a movie, he'll buy it.

What movie are you talking about that I like simply because it's morbid?  I like crazy sex stuff and violence.  Even better if they're combined.

http://indarktrees.com/Library/

There's not that much uber-edgy, boundary pushing for the sake of boundary pushing, shit in there.  I only like things if they have substance.  A movie can have all the depraved sex in the world in it, and I'll pass it up if there's no substance.
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on October 13, 2006, 03:46:07 PM
Haha, five seconds later you post the same exact thing I posted.
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: CajoleJuice on October 13, 2006, 03:46:30 PM
...smoking the reefer.
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: brawndolicious on October 13, 2006, 03:51:37 PM
Green Mile is good and is mandatory if you like Tom Hanks.  Watch the real versions of Kill Bill if you haven't.
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: TVC15 on October 13, 2006, 03:57:10 PM
Green Mile is good and is mandatory if you like Tom Hanks.  Watch the real versions of Kill Bill if you haven't.

Green Mile isn't anything noteworthy.  It's another Tom Hanks being Tom Hanks movie.
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on October 13, 2006, 03:57:47 PM
The Green Mile was just okay.
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: TVC15 on October 13, 2006, 03:59:14 PM
It's not bad, it's just not worth watching when there are a million great movies to watch.
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on October 13, 2006, 04:01:24 PM
I think it's ultimate failure was that it said LOOK WE'RE A PRISON MOVIE BASED ON A STEPHEN KING JUST LIKE SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION...

... but it wasn't anywhere near as good.
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: brawndolicious on October 13, 2006, 04:04:36 PM
I liked the fact that it was a long movie that needed that much time to finish.  It was more about the romance of the prison and having to watch killers and kill them eventually.  Or he could get Deliverance, that was a very good and revolutionary movie if he's going to come off watching Evil Dead.
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: Vizzys on October 13, 2006, 04:09:48 PM
Evil Dead II
This seemed like the obvious answer.
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 13, 2006, 04:52:01 PM
What's another good horror movie to rent?

The remake of Texas Chainsaw Massacre?
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: Vizzys on October 13, 2006, 05:19:38 PM
Army of Darkness
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 13, 2006, 05:37:25 PM
The Green Mile is so fucking pussified down from the book.  In the book, even though Delacroix is a bit sympathetic, you know what he did, and why he deserves to die.  The movie tried so hard to make all these death row inmates seem fucking noble (except for Wild Bill, who should've been wearing a big sign reading HEY Y'ALL I'M THE VILLAIN) that it made me sick to my stomach.  Same with Shawshank Redemption and toning down Red's crimes (in the book, he killed his wife for no real reason at all, and admits it), all these hardened criminal lifers are really just big ole good-hearted sweeties deep down inside.  You know, so the viewer isn't confused by any troublesome conflicting emotions or anything.  Fuck Frank Darabont.
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 13, 2006, 05:37:52 PM
Rent John Carpenter's The Thing.  Best ending ever.
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 13, 2006, 08:05:42 PM
Shawshank Redemption is a classic movie that was ROBBED of the glory it deserves :punch
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Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on October 13, 2006, 11:25:53 PM
Audition

OH GAWD YES
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 13, 2006, 11:48:39 PM
Alright, just got back from Hollywood Video and Blockbuster; I was looking for Heat and Conan the Barbarian, but they didn't have them. I really wanted Conan :(

But this is what I got:

-Evil Dead 2
-Sin City
-The Devil and Daniel Johnston
-Howl's Moving Castle

I almost got Die Hard, but it was only on VHS meh. I've never seen Sin City, but I read a lot of the graphic novel. I'll watch Evil Dead 2 first though.

IT BETTER BE GOOD :punch
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: TVC15 on October 14, 2006, 01:11:59 AM
Alright, just got back from Hollywood Video and Blockbuster; I was looking for Heat and Conan the Barbarian, but they didn't have them. I really wanted Conan :(

But this is what I got:

-Evil Dead 2
-Sin City
-The Devil and Daniel Johnston
-Howl's Moving Castle

I almost got Die Hard, but it was only on VHS meh. I've never seen Sin City, but I read a lot of the graphic novel. I'll watch Evil Dead 2 first though.

IT BETTER BE GOOD :punch

What made you get the Devil and Daniel Johnston?  it's really good, but I think that's a pretty left field pick for you.  Also, Howl's blows.
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 14, 2006, 01:25:27 AM
Alright, just got back from Hollywood Video and Blockbuster; I was looking for Heat and Conan the Barbarian, but they didn't have them. I really wanted Conan :(

But this is what I got:

-Evil Dead 2
-Sin City
-The Devil and Daniel Johnston
-Howl's Moving Castle

I almost got Die Hard, but it was only on VHS meh. I've never seen Sin City, but I read a lot of the graphic novel. I'll watch Evil Dead 2 first though.

IT BETTER BE GOOD :punch

What made you get the Devil and Daniel Johnston?  it's really good, but I think that's a pretty left field pick for you.  Also, Howl's blows.

I saw the trailer a long time ago, and it really impressed me; I watched it like 10 times that day, and even looked up the guy's music.
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 14, 2006, 01:38:26 AM
Howl's really does blow. Rent Robocop again.
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Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on October 14, 2006, 02:03:22 PM
Sin City was a wise choice.
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Post by: TVC15 on October 14, 2006, 03:36:33 PM
Well, PD, what have you watched?
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Post by: Vizzys on October 14, 2006, 04:03:49 PM
YOU SHOULD HAVE GOT AKIRA RATHER THEN HOWLS GAY FUCKING CASTLE.

Unless you have already seen it.
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Post by: Mupepe on October 14, 2006, 04:51:06 PM
YOU SHOULD HAVE GOT AKIRA RATHER THEN HOWLS GAY FUCKING CASTLE.

Unless you have already seen it.
QFT

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Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 14, 2006, 05:33:36 PM
Well, PD, what have you watched?

...


...








:(

I watched some of Evil Dead 2, but it was so stupid I fell asleep. I'm going to give it another chance today; I started watching it at 1 in the morning, so maybe that's why I fell asleep. I liked the way it came on, but then it just got stupid. BUT before I make any more statements on the movie, I'm going to watch the entire thing.

REVIEW: PENDING
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Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on October 14, 2006, 07:06:25 PM
Evil Dead 2? Stupid?



NO TASTE CONFIRMED. ::)
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 14, 2006, 07:51:40 PM
Alright I just got done watching the entire movie. I must have been REAL sleepy last night lol. The movie was not bad.

I really liked how it came on, as I said earlier. The intro was cool, as was the first few scenes in the house; the tape recorder part really got my attention and reminded me of Indiana Jones for some reason.

Once his girlfriend gets kidnapped the movie goes crazy. I liked much of the camera work, but some of it seemed forced. It was almost like those college project videos you see where the student's main goal seems to be to show how awesome his camera work is, thus leading to lots of un-needed flash. There's a part in the movie where Ash is thrown into the sky and starts spinning around and around before slowly falling into a mudpuddle; stuff like that was just annoying. On the positive side, I really liked the first person camera work when some monster/evil spirit was gliding around; that was actually scary.

From a technical standpoint there was a lot of stuff going on. It was obvious that some scenes were shot in reverse (for instance the scenes that used smoke machines), and as I mentioned earlier the camera work was very active. Impressive.

The movie picked up the pace once everyone was in the house. Ash's scenes before then were sort of hit and miss. I liked the part where he cut off his own hand and when he cut his dead girlfriend's head off lol; sadly, he barely uttered any cool lines. Much of the slapstick humor was hit and miss as well. I love seeing people get kicked in the face, and the part where Ash gets kicked into the celler by that hillbilly is hilarious; only time I LOL'd during the movie. Also the part where his girlfrien's head was connected to his hand was funny. But many slapstick scenes seemed to go on for far too long; many of the chase scenes featuring undead Ash were just stupid, and the parts where that other dude turned undead was stupid as well.

Overall I thought it was a good movie. Not amazing, not classic, not mindblowing. Maybe a 7 or 8 out of 10. But the ending really was awesome...so I'll go with 8/10.

When I saw parts of Army of Darkness, I remember seeing Ash fall out the sky and into the desert area; so should I watch Army of Darkness next?
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Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on October 14, 2006, 08:08:13 PM
Yes.

And glad to see you actually enjoyed the movie. Now go rewatch Robocop.
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Post by: Vizzys on October 14, 2006, 09:48:38 PM
When I saw parts of Army of Darkness, I remember seeing Ash fall out the sky and into the desert area; so should I watch Army of Darkness next?

Army of Darkness

YES.

its also known as Evil Dead III: Army of Darkness
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on October 14, 2006, 11:54:39 PM
PhoenixDark probably missed all the fun and clever gags, like Ash putting the book "A Farewell to Arms" on top of a bucket to secure his recently amputated hand.
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 15, 2006, 12:04:32 AM
PhoenixDark probably missed all the fun and clever gags, like Ash putting the book "A Farewell to Arms" on top of a bucket to secure his recently amputated hand.

Yeah that got a slight chuckle. Overall I didn't think the movie was that funny. It's easy to see that people who found it funny would enjoy it much more than those who didn't.
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Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on October 15, 2006, 12:47:05 AM
No shit, Mr. Holmes.
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Post by: Vizzys on October 15, 2006, 01:23:39 AM
So PD have you seen Akira?

Its what got me into anime at a young age.
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Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on October 15, 2006, 01:24:37 AM
So PD have you seen Akira?

Its what got me into anime at a young age.

ITS A TRAP!!!!
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 15, 2006, 01:50:40 AM
So PD have you seen Akira?

Its what got me into anime at a young age.

No. I actually saw that Blockbuster had it, but I got Howl instead. I heard it was like Castle in the Sky, which is one of my favorite animated films.

I heard Akira was extremely violent and obscene.
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Post by: Vizzys on October 15, 2006, 01:54:47 AM
It is. :lol
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 15, 2006, 09:11:32 PM
I watched The Devil and Daniel Johnston today

Overall it was a good documentary. Not as great as I thought it would be, but still good; seemed a bit too long, and it dragged towards the end.

I found Johnston's story to be very interesting. He truly is a mad genius; even as a kid his talent was evident, as the various 8MM films he shot portray.

His music is interesting. Let's face it, he can't sing, but neither can Bob Dylan. I got the impression that he's a good songwriter and melody creator, but he's not great at brining his songs to life. Very similar to Robert Johnson, who wrote a lot of the blues staples that were later mined by British bands in the 60's and 70's; Johnson's version of Crossroads is very raw, but when you hear Cream's version it sounds amazing. It's no wonder artists like Beck and Pearl Jam have found success covering Johnston's music.

8/10

I'm going to watch Sin City later tonight after I eat and head off to my dad's practice (to clean up)
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Post by: Vizzys on October 15, 2006, 09:16:23 PM
Sin City rocks duders, enjoy.
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on October 15, 2006, 09:16:39 PM
Sin City rocks duders, enjoy.

Truth.
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 16, 2006, 01:37:40 AM
BATHROOM BREAK:

I'm in the middle of watching Sin City right now, and I must say...this is the most badass movie of all time :lol

HOOKERS
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Post by: CajoleJuice on October 16, 2006, 01:47:56 AM
There might be hope for you yet, PD.
Title: Re: Evil Dead and ________?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 16, 2006, 03:05:32 AM
There might be hope for you yet, PD.

http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=1451.new#new

OMG