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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: dcharlie on November 12, 2007, 10:47:16 PM

Title: PS3 struggles in Japan continue despite price drop.
Post by: dcharlie on November 12, 2007, 10:47:16 PM
Despite the weekend launch, the price cut PS3 manages a feeble 36k on its first day.

I'm sure the fanboys are spinning this left right and center but this is a disaster.

with weak numbers to date on the board , a media blitz, and a price tag that is pretty damned reasonable, teams of people screaming with megaphones outside Bic etc, and with a game that the Japanese actually care about i am utterly shocked at how low this figure is and i suspect that number will drop off rapidly, maybe hitting about 75k for the week.

Sony expected there to be demand there - but there simply isn't.

Seriously - Sony fans , it really is time to start hitting the panic button because it's all going wrong.

Like a once championship horse that suddenly has gone lame, it's perhaps time to put a bullet in their neck by allowing Polyphony and TeamIco to go make some real money on other platforms.

Square Enix and Konami must be watching these results come in with horror.
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 12, 2007, 10:48:34 PM
I hope I get a lot more BOGO Blu Ray deals out of this
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Post by: MrAngryFace on November 12, 2007, 10:50:02 PM
Dear Sony,

GAMES!

Sincerely,
MAF
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Post by: MrAngryFace on November 12, 2007, 10:51:37 PM
That hasn't stopped the Wii!
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Post by: Oblivion on November 12, 2007, 10:54:35 PM
First day/week is irrelevent anyway (remember the Euro Launch?). We'll see if PS3 maintains its sales, then it would be something to start celebrating.
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Post by: Beezy on November 12, 2007, 10:56:08 PM
MGS4 on 360 please!
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Post by: Trent Dole on November 12, 2007, 11:01:07 PM
MGS4 on 360 please!
Hasn't pretty much everyone that isn't Hideo Kojima said that MGS4 on 360 is a go at this point? It'll just hit a few months later like the GTA games used to.
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Post by: tiesto on November 12, 2007, 11:07:51 PM
Someone needs to convince the morans at S-E to put FFXIII and Versus on 360, and then we're pretty much good to go. It'd be really awesome going through this gen w/o even picking up a PS3, as Sony's first-party content doesn't really interest me aside from Team ICO.
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on November 12, 2007, 11:12:25 PM
guess what, I'm still buying rockband for PS3 and you can't stop me
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 12, 2007, 11:12:48 PM
Dear Sony,

GAMES!

Sincerely,
MAF
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Post by: MrAngryFace on November 12, 2007, 11:13:58 PM
Synth: You're like some kind of druggie
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Post by: bork on November 12, 2007, 11:25:07 PM
Can we be fair here, for a minute?  The new consoles did come out on a SUNDAY.  And I don't know about the whole of Japan, but the weather here was certainly quite shitty Sunday and the shops I went to were pretty empty.

I didn't ask about PS3 systems, but my local shop had two Dual Shocks left, and had a shitload of Shin Sangoku Musou 5 PS3 copies behind the counter, all pre-ordered.

But seriously, the way things have been going, yeah...I could live without a PS3.  I love the upscaling and playing PS2 games on the system, but I could easily survive with my PS2, 360, and yes...WII. 

At least the Uncharted demo is region-free now.  That's something to try...
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Post by: MrAngryFace on November 12, 2007, 11:26:38 PM
Its too late lyte edge, gamers have gone from wishing for new unannounced PS3 titles to hoping devs of announced titles move their games to the 360.
Title: Re: PS3 struggles in Japan continue despite price drop.
Post by: bork on November 12, 2007, 11:28:15 PM
I'm wishing for a time machine, since the last generation was so much fucking better. LOLZ LOLZ
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Post by: MrAngryFace on November 12, 2007, 11:31:26 PM
360 has been plenty of fun, but really the PS2/Dreamcast/GBA Era is definately one of gaming's finer moments.
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Post by: bork on November 12, 2007, 11:37:27 PM
360 has been plenty of fun, but really the PS2/Dreamcast/GBA Era is definately one of gaming's finer moments.

On the flip side, the portables are fucking awesome...PSP and DS both rock.
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Post by: MrAngryFace on November 12, 2007, 11:42:08 PM
PSP has really come back, and DS holds steady. Cant really lose out as a portable owner.
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Post by: The Sceneman on November 12, 2007, 11:49:03 PM
what I dont get is why people talk about Team ICO like theyre fucking worth anything, that goes for Polyphony too, Gran Turismo = ass. Oh yeah but the PSP game was good! Was really worth buying a PSP at launch for!  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Post by: MCD on November 12, 2007, 11:50:25 PM
GT sells whether you like it or not.

as for Team ICO...lol games are art.

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Post by: Smooth Groove on November 13, 2007, 12:27:16 AM
sfags am cry :'(

 :kylielaff


MGS4's going mutiplatform in 2 months!
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Post by: Ichirou on November 13, 2007, 12:37:50 AM
It's all over for PS3, but it's not like we couldn't see it coming.
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Post by: Smooth Groove on November 13, 2007, 12:43:38 AM
Dcharlie, when will MGS4 be announced for the 360?  I think it'll be done by the end of this year. 
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Post by: MCD on November 13, 2007, 12:45:52 AM
Well, since the White Engine is multiplatform, might as well port FF13 to the 360.

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Post by: Kyle on November 13, 2007, 12:47:30 AM
MGS4 on 360 :bow
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Post by: ferrarimanf355 on November 13, 2007, 01:00:32 AM
I guess Sony isn't going to recover from the X360 sales in Japan last week...  :-[ :-* :'(
Title: Re: PS3 struggles in Japan continue despite price drop.
Post by: Smooth Groove on November 13, 2007, 01:54:35 AM
Despite the weekend launch, the price cut PS3 manages a feeble 36k on its first day.

I'm sure the fanboys are spinning this left right and center but this is a disaster.

with weak numbers to date on the board , a media blitz, and a price tag that is pretty damned reasonable, teams of people screaming with megaphones outside Bic etc, and with a game that the Japanese actually care about i am utterly shocked at how low this figure is and i suspect that number will drop off rapidly, maybe hitting about 75k for the week.

What is this game?  I was laughing so quickly that I missed this the 1st time. 

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Dcharlie, when will MGS4 be announced for the 360?  I think it'll be done by the end of this year. 


i think they'll scrap MGS4 and build a new game from the ground up for 360.

No need to work within the confines of the PSR.I.Pee when you have much better hardware to tap.

They might use some of the higher res assets they created, but the majority of the low res stuff they'll probably chuck away.




Damn, you're even more of a troll than me.   No wonder you've been the SDF's prime target for so long. 

:bow Dcharlie :bow

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Post by: Mr. Gundam on November 13, 2007, 01:58:58 AM
Despite the weekend launch, the price cut PS3 manages a feeble 36k on its first day.

I'm sure the fanboys are spinning this left right and center but this is a disaster.

with weak numbers to date on the board , a media blitz, and a price tag that is pretty damned reasonable, teams of people screaming with megaphones outside Bic etc, and with a game that the Japanese actually care about i am utterly shocked at how low this figure is and i suspect that number will drop off rapidly, maybe hitting about 75k for the week.

What is this game?  I was laughing so quickly that I missed this the 1st time.

Dynasty Warriors.
Title: Re: PS3 struggles in Japan continue despite price drop.
Post by: Smooth Groove on November 13, 2007, 02:02:27 AM
Despite the weekend launch, the price cut PS3 manages a feeble 36k on its first day.

I'm sure the fanboys are spinning this left right and center but this is a disaster.

with weak numbers to date on the board , a media blitz, and a price tag that is pretty damned reasonable, teams of people screaming with megaphones outside Bic etc, and with a game that the Japanese actually care about i am utterly shocked at how low this figure is and i suspect that number will drop off rapidly, maybe hitting about 75k for the week.

What is this game?  I was laughing so quickly that I missed this the 1st time.

Dynasty Warriors.

Is that enough to draw them in?  They didn't even care much for VF5 in Japan even though VF has been a staple of Japanese gaming for so long. 
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 13, 2007, 03:02:44 AM
JUST WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT DRAGON QUEST

oh wait
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Post by: Oblivion on November 13, 2007, 03:41:12 AM
Damn, dcharlie, you're relentless.  :lol
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Post by: Cormacaroni on November 13, 2007, 03:49:53 AM
guess what, I'm still buying rockband for PS3 and you can't stop me

just remember to youtube you playing all the instruments at once!
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Post by: bagofeyes on November 13, 2007, 03:59:55 AM
I was in yamada denki and looked briefly at the tiny ps3 section and it seemed like it was the same 5 games there I saw six months earlier
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Post by: Cormacaroni on November 13, 2007, 04:09:30 AM
I was in yamada denki and looked briefly at the tiny ps3 section and it seemed like it was the same 5 games there I saw six months earlier

What really rams home their utter utter fail over here is that most stores have resorted to giving prominent PS3 shelf space to stuff like Rainbow Six and Madden. You could easily be forgiven for thinking that you were looking at the Xbox or Xbox 360 shelves.

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Post by: Smooth Groove on November 13, 2007, 04:10:17 AM
Yes, it's true , we are handsome , musical, sports men, we drive fast cars and we get all the best lasses.



Dcharlie is Robertsan!   :o

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Post by: TVC15 on November 13, 2007, 04:29:50 AM
"My band is bigger than your band, we've got more songs than a song convention. SING IT!" (McLusky - X360 owners - obviously)

I love you more and more with each post!
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Post by: bork on November 13, 2007, 04:43:31 AM
All the stores around me prominently display DS and PS2 games.  Wii is second, followed by PSP, then PS3 in small sections, and 360...

...it gets like a shelf or two.   :lol

Actually there's a Joshin with a fairly large 360 section right near my place.
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Post by: Sho Nuff on November 13, 2007, 07:41:33 AM
YARITAKATTA ZO! --> YARITAKATTA kedo...

The fact that the new SKU did not sell alongside a new DW game slightly disturbs me. :/
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Post by: bork on November 13, 2007, 08:27:06 AM
What's "CC?"  That's not Chameleon Club by any chance, is it?  I thought they were only in my prefecture...

Sho Nuff, is DW6 TEH BOMBA?!  :o  Didn't it get a good Famitsu rating?
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Post by: Ichirou on November 13, 2007, 08:39:58 AM
I went to Yodobashi in Akiba yesterday and they had rearranged everything and dcharlie is right, they moved the 360 to a more prominent space while the PS3 shit got dumped in a corner.

It's all over for Sony this gen.
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Post by: Synbios459 on November 13, 2007, 08:54:50 AM
I went to Yodobashi in Akiba yesterday and they had rearranged everything and dcharlie is right, they moved the 360 to a more prominent space while the PS3 shit got dumped in a corner.

It's all over for Sony this gen.
Is the PS3 the new N64?
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Post by: MCD on November 13, 2007, 09:05:54 AM
N64 had Rare.

 :heartbeat
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Post by: tiesto on November 13, 2007, 09:10:47 AM
N64 had Sin and Punishment, Mischief Makers, Ogre Battle 64, and the Zelda games... not a lot but still a helluva lot more than PS3.
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Post by: MCD on November 13, 2007, 09:16:12 AM
Rare when they didn't suck donkey nuts too :(

well, they had started to suckle on them by the mid N64 life span, but they DID give us Conker near the end.

sigh... Rare/Ultimate - they were once so amazing. Alas....



Viva Pinata is awesome.

And i hope Banjo 3 rocks as much.
Title: Re: PS3 struggles in Japan continue despite price drop.
Post by: pollo on November 13, 2007, 10:50:37 AM
Despite the weekend launch, the price cut PS3 manages a feeble 36k on its first day.

I'm sure the fanboys are spinning this left right and center but this is a disaster.

with weak numbers to date on the board , a media blitz, and a price tag that is pretty damned reasonable, teams of people screaming with megaphones outside Bic etc, and with a game that the Japanese actually care about i am utterly shocked at how low this figure is and i suspect that number will drop off rapidly, maybe hitting about 75k for the week.

Sony expected there to be demand there - but there simply isn't.

Seriously - Sony fans , it really is time to start hitting the panic button because it's all going wrong.

Like a once championship horse that suddenly has gone lame, it's perhaps time to put a bullet in their neck by allowing Polyphony and TeamIco to go make some real money on other platforms.

Square Enix and Konami must be watching these results come in with horror.

I go wherever Team Ico goes :heartbeat :heartbeat
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Post by: Rman on November 13, 2007, 01:40:59 PM
Wait until FFXIII.
Wait until MGS4.
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Post by: bluemax on November 13, 2007, 01:49:27 PM
So wait, this thread says its a bomba, but GAF says the PS3 numbers were tripled or something.

WHO DO I BELIEVE.
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Post by: MrAngryFace on November 13, 2007, 02:22:09 PM
TRIPLE! Given the PS3's history i'd like to see what kind of crazy ass magic would back that kinda jump considering the delays and feature cuts and well, just sucking in general.
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Post by: bud on November 13, 2007, 02:46:43 PM
seems like the ps3 outsold the wii.

rip wii :violin
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on November 13, 2007, 02:52:22 PM
TRIPLE! Given the PS3's history i'd like to see what kind of crazy ass magic would back that kinda jump considering the delays and feature cuts and well, just sucking in general.

The Japanese like purdy colors and Chinese warriors. White PS3 and Musou could be that crazy ass magic, but we'll just have to wait until Media Create's numbers come out to know the truth.
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Post by: MrAngryFace on November 13, 2007, 06:49:23 PM
seems like the ps3 outsold the wii.

rip wii :violin

Nintendo faces the true challenge of convincing people that they need TWO Nintendo Wii systems.
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Post by: hyp on November 13, 2007, 07:14:25 PM
Nintendo faces the true challenge of convincing people that they need TWO Nintendo Wii systems.

it's possible!  MS made me a multi-360 owner.  :P 

'xcept one of mine is broken.  :'(
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Post by: demi on November 13, 2007, 09:32:29 PM
DCharlie, tell Robby to make his 500th post or you'll do something he will regret (please tell me you took explicit photos of him to blackmail with)
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Post by: The Sceneman on November 13, 2007, 11:44:57 PM
its good how dcharlie is EVILBORE EXCLUSIVE now

Anyway when we you think Sony will go 3rd party? 6 months time?
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Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on November 14, 2007, 01:10:12 AM
The logical side of me really wants the PS3 to succeed because I just bought the damn thing and I'm actually warming up to it.  I'm really digging all the functionality, Folklore turned out to be pretty cool, and that Uncharted demo has some of the best graphics I've seen anywhere.  So the potential is definately there for some great things.

But the emotional side of me wants to see the fucker tank just to watch the reactions over on GAF.  That alone would be worth 600 bucks.
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Post by: Oblivion on November 15, 2007, 09:30:26 PM
Seems it only sold 55k this week. But that's enough to turn the tide in Japan it seems.
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Post by: bork on November 16, 2007, 08:40:21 AM
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What's "CC?"  That's not Chameleon Club by any chance, is it?  I thought they were only in my prefecture...

it is indeed Chameleon club.

Lol - me and the missus had a choice of two locations to move to - we picked the one we are in because it DIDNT have a CC because we thought "Fuggdat, we'd spend all our wages there!"

two weeks after we moved in, a CC opened up. :( / :)

i prefered it 5-6 years ago when they had NO CLUE how much 2nd hand stuff was worth. I still lol at the Dracula X PCE that i got for , blush, 180 yen.

(i bought 14 games that day, all 180 yen a shot)


 :lol Holy shit, kind of makes me happy if I end up moving to Tokyo later on down the line, then.  I frequent the CC near me 1-2 times a week occasionally hit up the other two in town...that 1000 yen off point card gets filled up pretty quick!  They moved down the road a few months ago and had an opening sale; I snagged Castlevania LoI for 100 yen, Zelda TP for 2400 yen, and Minna No Tennis for 1900 yen. 

I also like that they give you a few hundred yen off for reserving a game through them. Which is absolutely free to do.  8)
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Post by: bork on November 16, 2007, 09:13:12 AM
Rampage?  Here?  Where?   :lol

The local CC actual has had a female employee working there (or worked there...haven't seen her in a little while) for the past year or so.  And they're nice guys, too, although there's a new clerk who's kinda nerdy, doesn't seem to know what they have in stock, and STINKS.  I try to avoid him when I can.  :/
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Post by: bud on November 16, 2007, 10:35:09 AM
rip ps3. i just hope mgs4 doesn't bomb. :(
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Post by: Mupepe on November 16, 2007, 10:42:39 AM
rip ps3. i just hope mgs4 doesn't bomb. :(
i'm sure it'll get the sales it deserves... on the 360