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Title: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 16, 2007, 01:04:16 PM
I'll start:

1.) After spending a block walking through Acre with a stupid beggar lady following me around I finally grew tired of her, grabbed her by the shirt and flung her into a pottery stand.

2.) Pushing my horse on the way to Acre to full speed and ramming into a crowd of the King's men. The horse of course collapsed and rolled, and after rolling off the horse I dispatched the small army. The ones that weren't dead on the ground I walked over to and stabbed in the neck with my hidden blade.

3.) The rooftops of Acre are patrolled. After silencing a street preacher, who I was just kinda tired of, I ran to the rooftops to avoid getting the crime pinned on me. As I crouched on the edge of the roof to watch below I hear "Hay, you aren't permitted here!" I stand up and there's two archers, one aimed at me barking warnings, both a rooftop away. I test my hidden knife to make sure its ready, then I hit a full sprint. Instead of jumping across the roof I ran across 2x4 beam connecting the buildings and the moment I was in range lept with my hidden blade extended and stuck it in the first archer's neck.

The second archer fired a shot that went wide. I knew this was my chance. If I got there before he switched to his sword I could leap on him and kill him with the hidden blade. I locked on to him and sprinted at him, and I leapt, but he caught me as I fell, his hand on my wrist keeping him from getting stabbed in the neck and then rolled/tossed me to the side and off the roof.

Landing in a burnt out building the quarters were close, so I switched to my short blade before he dropped down from above. He struck out with his slower and longer blade but I countered his attack, and my short blade went into his foot, and then out and up against his chest and face.

Ahhhhh. GOTY
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Solo on November 16, 2007, 01:06:57 PM
I think we need more AC threads, more WUT DID U BUY threads, and more WUT SHOULD I WATCH threads. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 16, 2007, 01:08:02 PM
I think we need more crappy movie opinions from members.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Solo on November 16, 2007, 01:08:30 PM
Thats why we have you, Mr. Children of Men hating Godzilla!
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 16, 2007, 01:09:38 PM
Oh no no, I don't think I could ever emulate the small-town newspaper movie review quotes like you do.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Solo on November 16, 2007, 01:12:00 PM
Im an engineering student. Telling me my writing is good enough for a local rag is a compliment. Thanks MAF/Mr Shorts.

My favorite AC moment was when I bought it a few hours ago.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 16, 2007, 01:12:28 PM
If compliments from people on the internet are what keep you going, more power to you.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Solo on November 16, 2007, 01:15:20 PM
lol

So how 'bout that Assassin's Creed?
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 16, 2007, 01:20:34 PM
Pretty awesome. Im thinking about making a thread!
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: T234 on November 16, 2007, 01:27:28 PM
Thats why we have you, Mr. Children of Men hating Godzilla!
SAY IT AIN'T SO MAF :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 16, 2007, 01:28:58 PM
The book was better, even if the movie was well shot.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: captainbiotch on November 16, 2007, 01:34:13 PM
more stories less faggery!  This is tiding me over till I get my hands on it.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: T234 on November 16, 2007, 01:35:27 PM
Oh.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Mupepe on November 16, 2007, 01:37:53 PM
screw it.  i love that everyone here plays games at a different time than other people and make their own threads instead of one "official" thread.  It gives you more insight and opinions into the game and it keeps it from turning into fanboy BS.

MAF: are the towns densely populated everywhere?  from what i've seen there's TONS of people on screen but i didn't know if it was like that in most places in the town or just in like the center or something.  

can you go batshit insane and start slaughtering people?  Do they simply respawn or is it like oblivion where they're gone forever?
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 16, 2007, 01:42:12 PM
You can go batshit insane and kill people, but the population of the game is a quarter of a million. Not sure how respawning works.

The towns are pretty populated, there are a few dark places with 1 or two people skulking about. The fighting system in the game is really good so while you may be good enough to take on 11 people at once, its still slightly dangerous, and when town alerts happen and the whole town is against you the citizens throw rocks n shit. There are also vigilante groups that help you by holding back guards if theyre nearby when shit goes down. Their favor with you goes up when you help poor people getting hassled by guards.

You can gentle shove people around but I live on the rooftops most of the time anyway.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 16, 2007, 01:46:49 PM
I remember in this small town outside of acre a fight started and the towns people kept running away screaming that I murdered someone and I kept leapin to each one and killing them (which hurts my sync ratio) but they kept getting in range of another citizen that would witness me kill them then I would have to kill that one. I ended up giving up and stealing a horse.

The horse stuff is awesome btw.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Mupepe on November 16, 2007, 01:55:47 PM
holy shit that does sound awesome.

how is the AI?  is it decent enough to challenge you?

and there's really 250,000 people in the world?  wow.  that's pretty awesome.  i want it just to try to kill everyone now.  that should be an achievement.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 16, 2007, 02:02:42 PM
In combat the AI is pretty decent, especially the special troops like templars cause they love to throw in punches and kicks or just send an arm in and throw you to the ground. Its even harder when the guards have mixed weapons. Like one will be shooting arrows at you, another will be a heavy swordsman and the other will be a longswordsman. The longswordsman you can take out with a short blade doing counters easily but the heavyswordsman will overpower you if you have your shortblade out so you can counter with your longblade instead. You can also work in the hidden blade depending on opportunities. I've found battering away with a longblade works best, even in groups since the game makes it easy to engage multiple people at once during a fight and youre surrounded.

I still favor the long blade, but ive found a use for the short blade when im in smaller rooms. Still dont have my throwing knives yet which will be useful against archers. Archers have bleh aim tho so if you can catch them before their draw their longsword its all ok.

Oh haha earlier today I jumped off a building on to my horse. Granted I didnt land sitting, I just sort landed then sat down. Also horses you have picked up generally follow you around, so if a fight drags you far away the horse will keep close to you so you dont have to search all over creation for it.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Mupepe on November 16, 2007, 02:07:51 PM
you're going to make me trade shit in for this!
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Smooth Groove on November 16, 2007, 02:11:15 PM
you're going to make me trade shit in for this!

Do you really want to trust a guy that played BulletWitch more than Halo 3? 

http://live.xbox.com/en-US/profile/Achievements/ViewAchievementDetails.aspx?tid=%09%5d%3a%14%18%5c%1e%40rr&compareTo=MrMAF
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 16, 2007, 02:14:09 PM
Oh Smooth Groove, you've been such a vagina this past week.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Smooth Groove on November 16, 2007, 02:16:08 PM
I can't help it!  It's hard to come back down after going into full battle mode to troll Uncharted and Sony's NPD numbers. 
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: demi on November 16, 2007, 02:19:49 PM
you're going to make me trade shit in for this!

Do you really want to trust a guy that played BulletWitch more than Halo 3? 

http://live.xbox.com/en-US/profile/Achievements/ViewAchievementDetails.aspx?tid=%09%5d%3a%14%18%5c%1e%40rr&compareTo=MrMAF

He should trust me instead

Mupepe - go buy Assassin's Creed
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Mupepe on November 16, 2007, 02:20:39 PM
you're going to make me trade shit in for this!

Do you really want to trust a guy that played BulletWitch more than Halo 3? 

http://live.xbox.com/en-US/profile/Achievements/ViewAchievementDetails.aspx?tid=%09%5d%3a%14%18%5c%1e%40rr&compareTo=MrMAF
:lol :lol :lol  I've played more Condemned than I have any other 360 game I think.  =\

you're going to make me trade shit in for this!

Do you really want to trust a guy that played BulletWitch more than Halo 3? 

http://live.xbox.com/en-US/profile/Achievements/ViewAchievementDetails.aspx?tid=%09%5d%3a%14%18%5c%1e%40rr&compareTo=MrMAF

He should trust me instead

Mupepe - go buy Assassin's Creed
yes, sir.  i'll have it tonight one way or another.

Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: hyp on November 16, 2007, 02:20:48 PM
you been playing it demi? or you still on galaxy
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Smooth Groove on November 16, 2007, 02:24:15 PM
Condemned is awesome.  No shame in spending lots of time with it.  I played it on the PC though, so no achievements.   :(
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: demi on November 16, 2007, 02:27:08 PM
you been playing it demi? or you still on galaxy

I haven't played it or Galaxy
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: demi on November 16, 2007, 03:27:30 PM
http://assassinscreed.us.ubi.com/soundtrack/

password: Target (case-sensitive, just how it's shown)
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Bloodwake on November 16, 2007, 03:49:02 PM
Did someone say Children of Men sucked?

Because they are wrong. That may be the most wrong statement I've heard today.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Himu on November 16, 2007, 03:49:31 PM
i'm getting this tonight even though i don't have the money for it
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: y2kev on November 16, 2007, 03:51:37 PM
ass creed :bow
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Mupepe on November 16, 2007, 04:30:10 PM
ass creed :bow
yum
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Himu on November 16, 2007, 04:31:50 PM
ASS CRUD
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 16, 2007, 04:32:37 PM
BUYYY!!!! Im gonna play more tonight, gotta OWN Acre, gonna kick its ass.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: BlueTsunami on November 16, 2007, 10:35:23 PM
Why is there such extreme Love/Hate for this game? I'm thinking of picking it up myself to find out what all the hubabaloo is about.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Mr. Gundam on November 16, 2007, 10:50:31 PM
[shurg] It's probably because of the massive hype the game has seen over the last year or two...

I never really paid much attention to all of that, though. And as such, I'm really enjoying it.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: drew on November 16, 2007, 10:56:36 PM
Why is there such extreme Love/Hate for this game? I'm thinking of picking it up myself to find out what all the hubabaloo is about.

Ditto, the last time something like this happened was with space giraffe, which personally I loved.

I'll rent it eventually, if I spend another $60 on games this year I'd have to kick my own ass.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Himu on November 16, 2007, 11:09:06 PM
My favorite AC moment? Throwing the game in the trash because it lacks subtitles.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 16, 2007, 11:15:17 PM
i'm gonna go bathroom on you james spader-style, himumu
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: BlueTsunami on November 16, 2007, 11:15:58 PM
And thus begins the "Himu Subtitles Jihad War" Saga
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Himu on November 16, 2007, 11:32:43 PM
Jumping from high places is always fun
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 16, 2007, 11:33:12 PM
Haha, poor homeless lady. She harassed me and I threw her too hard into a closed door and she died. :(

I think the lack of a real death penalty really makes this game even more fun. Plus the Templars are a bitch to kill sometimes. There's like 33 of them or something and you have to find and kill them all to get the achievement. I love finding them cause they sit there gloating at first as I approach them.

Fun Fact: Dont bother with a short blade against templars. Short blade counters can sometimes not land a killing blow. I think longblade counters always land a killing blow. Plus templars hit hard so a short blade is REALLY hard to deflect with. They also like to throw you the fuck around, but i've become pretty good at recovering from a tumble.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Himu on November 17, 2007, 01:00:02 AM
Assassin's Creed:

+ Amazing graphics
+ Extremely well done controls that feel natural. Jumping from roof to roof is a wonderful feeling, especially when you have the area in high alert. 3d Zelda's could learn a thing or two from AC's use of auto jump.
+ You aren't penalized when you die, you simply respawn to the nearest checkpoint. While this makes the game seem extremely easy, it's far from it. I tried to take on 5 or 6 guys myself and got raped. I'm not sure if that's because it was near the beginning and I hadn't fully adjusted to fighting yet.
+ Good battle system, at least compared to the first PoP (I haven't played the others yet).
+ Stealth kills are badass, and you basically rack up kills one after another. It's cool because you've got options
+ Climbing stuff is just as fun as it is in Crackdown, and jumping is just as exhilarating. While I haven't really found anything from exploring high roof tops yet, you do get to scope out possible escape routes if you get caught. Also, since the game is so damn beautiful, climbing whatever you can get your hands on is a joy.
+ *I* think the "plot twist" is cool, although even if it wasn't there, it wouldn't take a thing away from the game. It's nice to have.
+ There are THOUSANDS of people in each area, and you can do lots of things to them: kill them, pickpocket them... It's like Shenmue with a next gen face lift.
+ The horse segments are handeled very well, and give me Shadow of the Colossus, and especially Ocarina of Time/Twilight Princess flashbacks.

- No subtitles is a big thing for me. For a story based game like this, I expect subtitles. I have been doing things and sometimes I don't understand why I'm doing them, and you should never feel that way in a game like this. Hopefully, a damn subtitles patch is released.
- The AI, at least so far, is pretty incompetent. I'll give an example with stealth kills; Usually, you will have 3-5 guards in one area. Let's say you assassinate one with your stealth knife. All you really have to do after you kill him is blend in, and the guards won't notice you. They will go and examine the body, during which, the alert status will be high alert, and if you touch anything you will be discovered. After that, which takes a mere 5-10 seconds, they go back to their positions and everything's back to normal, when you can continue assassinating the guards in the area. It's a little too simple for my tastes to be honest, but then again, this is pretty early. It's pretty hilarious; I'll kill some guy and then his comrade, who was 5 feet away comes over to his corpse and is like WHO DID THIS and I'm right behind him.

Basically, this game is Grand Theft Auto in the crusades instead of modern day, and it's a pretty damn good sandbox game, especially when compared to other games in the genre released on next gen consoles (the average Crackdown and fun Saints Row). Many reviews belittle the so called "repetitive" nature, but it's no less repetitive than a GTA game. If this genre is your thing and you'd like a different take on the sandbox genre without the guns and cars, you should check this out.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on November 17, 2007, 01:07:58 AM
*sigh*

You guys basically sold me on the game earlier today and when I went into the store to trade in my unopened copy of CoD4 for AC, I saw Uncharted behind the counter and picked that up instead.  I should've just bought both.  Now after reading this thread again I gotta go back tomorrow and pick up AC as well.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 17, 2007, 01:14:49 AM
NO SUBTITLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also the templars are a pain, also its fun to crash your horse into a small army andd take them out
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Mupepe on November 17, 2007, 01:19:09 AM
himuro: crackdown as average?  are you serious?
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 17, 2007, 01:20:00 AM
crackdown was incredibly fun, moreso than stupid GTA crap
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Mupepe on November 17, 2007, 01:28:50 AM
crackdown was incredibly fun, moreso than stupid GTA crap
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Himu on November 17, 2007, 01:31:21 AM
himuro: crackdown as average?  are you serious?

It was fun, but that doesn't mean it isn't average.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 17, 2007, 01:34:01 AM
Oh GTA whores, worse than Sony Fans right now lol
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Himu on November 17, 2007, 01:39:26 AM
SHUT UP GTA ROX
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Smooth Groove on November 17, 2007, 01:43:31 AM


- No subtitles is a big thing for me. For a story based game like this, I expect subtitles. I have been doing things and sometimes I don't understand why I'm doing them, and you should never feel that way in a game like this. Hopefully, a damn subtitles patch is released.


Stop talking to Mundane so much.  It's not good for your brain. 
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Himu on November 17, 2007, 01:44:35 AM
I haven't been listening to him
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Himu on November 17, 2007, 02:46:22 AM
I've taken out 5 Templars so far. Those guys are tough! Best way to kill them: lure them to a building so they have to climb up to catch you, and hit him right when he gets on the roof. Do this repeatedly and you've killed a Templar. It's pretty tough any other way. :o

Upon suggestion of someone, I pushed a guard off a roof just to see the crowd go batshit. That was awesome. :lol
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 17, 2007, 02:56:14 AM
Yeah templars one on one are hard. I kinda LIKE taking them out that way. Once you do a lot of the side quests like hitting all the vantage points, saving a lot of people being hassled by the man, your sync gauge grows larger and larger, so you can take out templars one on one. However Templars + Others is tricky business. I ran into a templar and 3 normal soldiers and barely escaped with my life, but that was a few hours ago, I could probably take em now. Still, I had just crashed a horse into them ;)
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Himu on November 17, 2007, 03:04:11 AM
Right now I have to speak to the Bureau Leader of Damascus and it says Damascus isn't in my
spoiler (click to show/hide)
memory
[close]
yet. Ummm...
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 17, 2007, 03:07:12 AM
You should be able to go there after the first city. Im dicking around in Acre right now collectin flags and stalking templars and throwing beggars into pottery stands
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Mr. Gundam on November 17, 2007, 04:17:21 AM
Himu, are you deaf or something?
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: TVC15 on November 17, 2007, 04:35:26 AM
I just took out my second target.

Digging it so far, but the damnedest thing is happening:  the controls aren't "clicking" like they were the other day.  Before, it was like swimming in a calm pool; today, it's like swimming upstream for me.  I guess I'm having an off day with the controls or something.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 17, 2007, 04:39:41 AM
Im still doing ok, better actually with combat. Hunt down some templars to keep sharp, those bastards are annoying. I also collect the flags for fun, so im jumping in and climbing all the time.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Smooth Groove on November 17, 2007, 04:40:34 AM
TVC, please rank these games for me.  I need to prioritize my gaming time.

MR Gay, R&C (70% complete), Uncharted, Assassin's Creed, Call of Duty 4 (PC)

I haven't bought AC or Uncharted yet but I'll probably get either one soon.   
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: TVC15 on November 17, 2007, 05:10:05 AM
I think Mr Gay is the best of those games, but it's also the easiest to get into and play at any time. 

Assassin's Creed, I think will be best enjoyed if played through in a pretty short period of time.  Since the controls are unorthodox, there's a learning curve (the controls are good mind you, it's just that if I took a month off, I would have to relearn them).

Uncharted seems pretty easy to play.  The gunplay is a mix of Gears and RE4, and we're all good at that by now.  Depending on how much you loved Gears and RE4, you might want to prioritize this.

COD4. . .I dunno.  I am kind of FPSed out, so I'm not the person to ask.

In AC, I LOVE rescuing a citizen, only to assassinate her directly afterwards.  So.  Awesome.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Shuri on November 17, 2007, 07:39:08 AM
I really like the controls, they feel so natural.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Himu on November 17, 2007, 07:43:49 AM
Himu, are you deaf or something?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auditory_processing_disorder
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: TVC15 on November 17, 2007, 07:45:43 AM
I really like the controls, they feel so natural.

Yeah, I am fine now.  I think it just takes me like 20 minutes to get into the controls.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: TVC15 on November 17, 2007, 09:14:48 AM
I'm liking this more the further I get into it.  I am guessing that the game is getting split reviews because it is the type of game that requires a bit of patience.  Moving slowly, creeping. . .for some gamers, it seems even hinting at moving at less than a breakneck pace will mean that a game has a short shelf life for them.  Me?  I played thief games, I like this sort of thing.

Speaking of Thief, this game reminds me a lot of Thief's failed attempt to do the GTA-style world in Thief 3.  That tried to do things with scripting, rather than good AI, and of course there weren't as many people on the streets to begin with.  I'm sure a lot of the complaints put against AC for being repetitive would go away if the assassination mission areas were as meaty as the actual levels in Thief (hint, hint for the sequel, Ubi), but having the areas incorporated into the wide open world is admirable, even if it means they have been skimpy so far.

I really hope Ubi isn't listening to the reviews.  They really did get this game mostly all right.  Fuck asshole console gamers that want spazzy action shit.  They can't appreciate a well-paced game in a realistic setting that's so ripe, yet so untouched in our hobby?  Let the meatheads have their Gears of War, and for what it's worth, I am going on assassination 5, and I still don't think the game is repetitive.  On the contrary, I'm kinda bummed that it's going to have to end.  And that Ubisoft is probably going to make the next game flashier to appease the dumbasses at 1UP.

Favorite moment so far?  Assassination number three (it might be the second for you folks, depending on which order you do the missions), the Knights Hospitaler duder.  Details within for those that wish to relive it:

spoiler (click to show/hide)
You get into the hospital, where you see the target, a sick fuck knight trying to treat the sick and wounded, and wounding some in the process to keep them on the inside where he can experiment on them, break the fucking legs of a patient that tried to escape.  I saw my older brother's leg get broken, and seeing knees bend backwards, even virtual knees, makes me squirm, and these virtual legs looked GREAT.  You sneak through the hospital by hiding in a group of scholars, and as you pass the mad medic doctor, you can stealth kill him, and then use the ensuing panic amongst scholars, doctors, guards, crazy people, and sick people to escape, right out into the city (no loading screen! Big open world) and escape onto the rooftops.  It's a fucking awesome game.  Makes me feel like a hitman.  The first time I tried to take out the doctor, he caught me trying to do the stealth kill, and he called the guards.  I still almost managed to take him out.  I love that there are multiple ways to do the assassinations.
[close]

Maybe this will be a GOTY contender.

I really hope Ubi does a sequel.  And that they don't dumb it down.  Gamers can't have anything good.  It's either the mags or the fanboys ruining shit for all of us :(
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Solo on November 17, 2007, 09:19:49 AM
So far I think its a big pile of average.

Pros: Animation and artistic design are very nice, free-running is fun, control is pretty good, decent VA
Cons: It already feels incredibly shallow and repetitive (free-run, attack, investigate, lather, rinse, repeat), framerate drops/screen tearing abounds, graphics arent wowing me nearly as much as I thought they were supposed to

After my limited playtime, I think the 7/10's most places were handing out were right on the money. For a so-called medievel Splinter Cell, Id actually rather play Splinter Cell at this point. Hopefully it picks up.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: TVC15 on November 17, 2007, 09:48:45 AM
We differ on that point.  Splinter Cell is what I find boring.  I can't deal with the trial and error, instant game over stuff.  I know I can always salvage a mission in this.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Solo on November 17, 2007, 09:59:33 AM
I find Splinter Cell boring too, but it still for me does a better job of building tension, and although in reality its gameplay is just as limited as AC's, somehow it doesnt feel as limited.

Im still EXTREMELY early in the game (like, Im only about to kill my first target), so theres a ton of time for the game to grow on me, which I hope it does.

Also, shame on Ubi for making Kristen Bell look ugly and scary looking.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: TVC15 on November 17, 2007, 10:05:54 AM
Also, shame on Ubi for making Kristen Bell look ugly and scary looking.

HOLY SHIT!  That is her!  It does kind of look like her.

That's kinda cool!
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 17, 2007, 11:41:03 AM
Assassin's creed controls took like 30 minutes, come on! learning curve?!
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: TVC15 on November 17, 2007, 11:54:14 AM
How many assassinations have you done so far, MAF?
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Solo on November 17, 2007, 12:30:51 PM
Also, shame on Ubi for making Kristen Bell look ugly and scary looking.

HOLY SHIT!  That is her!  It does kind of look like her.

That's kinda cool!

Yup, its her! I assume its her doing the VA too, but strangely enough, I cant really tell one way or the other.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Smooth Groove on November 17, 2007, 12:41:11 PM
I think Mr Gay is the best of those games, but it's also the easiest to get into and play at any time. 

Assassin's Creed, I think will be best enjoyed if played through in a pretty short period of time.  Since the controls are unorthodox, there's a learning curve (the controls are good mind you, it's just that if I took a month off, I would have to relearn them).

Uncharted seems pretty easy to play.  The gunplay is a mix of Gears and RE4, and we're all good at that by now.  Depending on how much you loved Gears and RE4, you might want to prioritize this.

COD4. . .I dunno.  I am kind of FPSed out, so I'm not the person to ask.

In AC, I LOVE rescuing a citizen, only to assassinate her directly afterwards.  So.  Awesome.

I think I'm FPSed out too so COD4 probably goes to the bottom of the list.  I've beaten Bioshock, Halo 3 and Orange Box in the last 2 months, which is more than enough FPS action for awhile.  Also, people only seem to like COD4 for its MP and I don't play MP that much. 

I liked both GOW and RE4 very much.  I hated RE4 at first but enjoyed it after I got adjusted to the controls.  It was kinda the same way with GOW although the controls were less frustrating.  Still, a 3rd person shooter is not that much different from a 1st person shooter.  I think I'll pass on Uncharted for now since it's basically GOW in a jungle as I predicted. 

So I guess most of my time will be spend on Mr Gay and then AC.  I'm sure Mr Gay's game play is fun but damn, the game is fugly. 
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: TVC15 on November 17, 2007, 12:55:44 PM
Uncharted, the first hour or so is really good.  The whole setup, and the stuff that happens before the demo is all interesting.  I hated the characters in the demo, but playing the actual beginning of the game got me into it.  THe really nailed the Indiana Jones vibe they were going for.

If you pick up Uncharted, I at least recommend doing the cool intro.  From the sound of it, that's like most of the platforming in the game right there :p
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Smooth Groove on November 17, 2007, 01:03:19 PM
From your description, it sounds like the best option is to rent or borrow Uncharted and just play through the beginning.  I wonder if they decided to go the Gears route after making the 1st level because of pressure from Sony to make a GOW-like game.  It's a shame because I think both reviews and sales would have been better if Uncharted weren't just another shooting game. 
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: TVC15 on November 17, 2007, 01:43:35 PM
Hey, for all I know, Uncharted gets super awesome after where I left off!  I'm not writing it off yet, there are just more compelling things to be playing.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 17, 2007, 01:57:35 PM
Assassin's creed controls took like 30 minutes, come on! learning curve?!

i dunno, i find them a bit cumbersome. i always forget to hold down the right trigger to go into "high profile" mode or the left trigger to target, especially in the heat of the moment. it's gonna take me a bit to get a hang of them.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 17, 2007, 02:05:18 PM
I guess, didnt seem that hard tho.

If you want hard its those spinning basket head ninjas in Sam Warriors 2 Empires
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: TVC15 on November 17, 2007, 02:14:28 PM
Luckily, Prole, the game is pretty forgiving with save points, and combat isn't that hard.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 17, 2007, 02:31:31 PM
Only the templars are hard really. I spend a lot of time running the rooftops tho, the controls in reflex for mee now.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: BlueTsunami on November 17, 2007, 02:41:53 PM
Fuck, I'm going to get this game today and I stopped by the Gamestop site and then saw MASS EFFECT 7/20/07 GET ME, BUY ME, FUCK MY FACE on the site. I KNOW that I'm going to buy both these games...RIDICULOUS!
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: TVC15 on November 17, 2007, 02:47:16 PM
Holy shit. . .that last assassination, the second one in Acre was FUCK CUNT WHORE PIRATE MOUTH SLUTS COOL!!!!
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Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: BlueTsunami on November 17, 2007, 02:53:08 PM
^omfg

:rofl

Ok, I'm out to buy this FUCK YOU GUYS AND YOUR HYPE
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: TVC15 on November 17, 2007, 02:54:33 PM
I'VE BEEN PLAYIN FOR LIKE 11 HOURS
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Valcrist on November 17, 2007, 03:21:59 PM
arghh I had finally decided in my mind to write this off so i could spend my limited time on Mass effect but now that you fuckers hyped it.... 
-60$
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: TVC15 on November 17, 2007, 03:53:47 PM
I need a break.  I am down to the last 2 guys :(

Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 17, 2007, 05:16:07 PM
Aww man, I almost had a perfect stealth kill on the second guy but some distinguished mentally-challenged fellow patient grabbed me and shoved me with distinguished mentally-challenged fellow strength into a guard :(

I'm not that far in cause I skip the free ride back to the boss and collect flags and hit up all the viewpoints. Finally got off my ass today to finish the first main acre quest.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Smooth Groove on November 17, 2007, 05:17:23 PM
Are there RPG elements like Crackdown? 
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 17, 2007, 05:43:55 PM
penny arcade seems to love asassin's creed lotsa: http://www.penny-arcade.com/2007/11/14/#1195073220

qt3 is pretty pumped on it, too. even the dubious mister chick has high praise for it, although he hated the ending because (not really a spoiler, but just bein' safe):
 
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"he didn't know he signed on for a trilogy." dur, star wars fans didn't know they signed on for a trilogy with "a new hope" either, senor.
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he's apparently giving it a high score in variety, and he thinks the major sites dinging it let their expectations get in the way of a proper evaluation.

Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: BlueTsunami on November 17, 2007, 06:02:27 PM
I really diggin this game too. When I got my horse, I totally got fucken SotC vibes but with better graphics, game world filled with things other than lizards and giant rocks and god better animations. God this game is visually fantastic and everything blends nicely.

Speaking of animations...wow this game is like the holy fucking grail of good animation. Every game made henceforth better not have herky jerky at the disco doing the robot movement.

I'm ok with the controls, I feel that holding RT to pull off aggresive moves is pretty cool (instead of button combos for everything else). Fighting feels kind of clunky though. This game was obviously made for climbing shit and thats where it shines, I spent a good while climbing various buildings in the first area.

From what I've experienced already, I can't believe reviewers shat on this game. Sounds like the gaming community is going to give it right back to them, hope Assasin's Creed sells good.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: demi on November 17, 2007, 06:02:37 PM
It is UbiSoft, I can't think of many games that are singular

BG&E  :'(
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Smooth Groove on November 17, 2007, 06:06:04 PM
More than 1 game sounds like a good thing in this case.  Even a short attention spanned dude like TVC wants more AC. 
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: y2kev on November 17, 2007, 07:17:34 PM
Scaling the wall after stealthing Monteferrat. You hear the bells ring and then it's on. I broke just out of sight and thought I was safe until I made a poor jump and fell onto the city street where they found me....and then you get that intense crescendo and the awesome music kicks in again. Then I ran as fast as I could for the city wall.


Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: GilloD on November 17, 2007, 08:23:37 PM
I'm really excited to play this game.I wish it'd shown up today, now I have to wait until, hopefully, Monday. Lousy Gamefly.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Solo on November 18, 2007, 08:03:26 AM
Ok, so I got a solid 4 hours of playing in last night, and the game really clicked with me all of a sudden, like big time. I dont know if its just that the opening section of the game sucks, or that I was anticipating something completely different than I got, or if all the bad reviews and word of mouth had twisted me against the game, but I really didnt enjoy my first session with the game, as I have already said.

Sinking my teeth into in for a longer amount of time last night, enjoying what the game is and not what I thought it should be, and completing the Damascus and Acre assassinations (my first two), has made me do a 180 on my initial impressions. This game is really something special. I do believe still that it is repetitive, but then so is every game, so I cant harp on that point too much. The bits that get repeated again and again are more than enough fun to make them enjoyable every time. Once you actually are taking on assassination contracts, the game gets twice as fun. Planning how to take out your targets is much more exciting that I thought it would be, and there are so many way to go about things.

The combat gets better and better as you get more used to the control, and have abilities and weapons returned to you. Counter attacks are great(especially when you get the gratuitous camera shots), the throwing knives are incredible (finally a weapon that looks cool as hell and makes you feel like a bad ass killer). Taking on legions of enemies is just fun (especially when you can get 20 or so after you, and you climb a tower, and proceed to throw them one by one off the tower to their death). The graphics are finally starting to win me over. The animation already had, but Im starting to notice the real subtleties and artistry the game has on display, and its might impressive. The cities look more and more incredible. I just reached Jerusalem, and wow. The game also feels appropriately massive and varied, and really feels like a somewhat authentic portrayel of the time period. Kudos to Ubisoft Montreal for their awesome work.

So yeah, my first impressions am cry. I was wrong about Assassin's Creed. Its a wonderful game.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 18, 2007, 11:36:07 AM
I had made the comment to Drinky the other day that a person could EASILY nitpick the game, there ARE a lot of small issues that could be brought up in critical review, but I think anyone who spends most of their time picking at those little things is really missing something special.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 18, 2007, 01:33:58 PM
the lead dev addresses any nitpicks on qt3 -- just search for all posts by the poster "Charles" over there -- and gives a good savaging to several reviewers as well
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Himu on November 18, 2007, 01:34:44 PM
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Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: TVC15 on November 18, 2007, 02:10:09 PM
I had made the comment to Drinky the other day that a person could EASILY nitpick the game, there ARE a lot of small issues that could be brought up in critical review, but I think anyone who spends most of their time picking at those little things is really missing something special.

Oh yeah, if I didn't want to like this game, I could find a hundred reasons, but fuck, why?  It's unique, it's awesome, and for a first try at this sort of thing, it's actually remarkably polished.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 18, 2007, 02:20:19 PM
Exactly, why nitpick something that is well intentioned and manages to pull the big picture off really well.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Himu on November 18, 2007, 02:21:22 PM
The only thing I'm truly disappointed with when it comes to Assassin's Creed are the lack of subtitles, and the fact Ubisoft apparently tip toed around the whole Crusades despite being taken placed there.

Tom Chick's impressions fit my own, regarding the plot. I still like like the story, but it could have been so much more.

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The disclaimer before the game even begins is promising. I don’t recall the specific wording, but the subtext is "Hey, Muslims, don't be mad at us! Some of our best friends are Muslims! Signed, Ubisoft." Apparently, the impending subject matter will be provocative. Ooh, exciting! Granted, this is from a company in a nation brimming with active and vocal Muslims. Plus, France is only a short road trip from those people in Denmark who got angry about political cartoons. Piss them off, and they might pile into buses, right? But still, it's an intriguing pre-game disclaimer in a space is normally reserved for epileptics. So this is going to be meaty, right?

Unfortunately, no. There's some progressive anti-book burning hoo-ha near the end, but for the most part, Assassin's Creed carefully tiptoes around the religious issues of the Crusades in specific, and the Middle East in general. Jesus, Mohammed, and Jews are scarcely mentioned, with inoffensive historical factions like Templar and Saracen standing in for the real players, the one who might have had some contemporary relevance. It's worth noting that your assassin's disguise is clearly that of a monk, but you're called a "scholar". How very secular.

In fact, it's a bit odd that the main character espouses some strange progressive thinking early on in the game. Under the Temple of Solomon, an Ark is sighted. "The Ark of the Covenant?" one character asks. Our progressive assassin points out that there is no such thing, and that it's just a story.

And in the end, the big reveal is slightly less silly than The Da Vinci Code's "Jesus had kids! Oh noes!" reveal. From the cauldron of the Crusades and the Middle East, all Ubisoft can produce is a world-weary existentialism as bland and inoffensive as vanilla ice cream, with a quote from Ecclesiastes like a cherry on top.

Where are your balls, Ubisoft? Talk more about the Prophet, peace be upon Him. Put a Jewish character in the game and let him be reviled. Show the Crusaders as something other than the dudes playing the role of the cops from GTA. Because you know everyone's thinking about it when they see your game. It's a potentially powerful subject, and it's on all our minds, and your pussyfooting around the weak safe choices is a disappointment, particularly when you insist on wrapping your game in a modern-day shell. Assassin's Creed is as aware of today as it is of the 12th Century. Act like it, for God's sake. Because if your love of the setting were expressed in the writing with one tenth of the passion you show for your love of the architecture, Assassin's Creed could have been an experience as memorable as BioShock or Portal.

Well put Mr. Chick.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 18, 2007, 02:25:11 PM
Powerful subjects may not ACTUALLY need to be in an entertaining videogame. I've said this before and i'll say it again, the devs made the game as realistic as it needed to be before making it too serious or too realistic. This is a stupid sci fi romp with a twist, pretending it is supposed to enlighten 12 year old xbox gamers that scream the 'n'word over xbox live is ludicrous
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 18, 2007, 02:26:51 PM
oddly, tom chick, in the thread, LOVES the game and states that his article is tongue-in-cheek, himu.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Himu on November 18, 2007, 02:27:06 PM
It's not needed, but it's somethign I would have liked

It's a nitpick though. It doesn't ruin the game at all and I still like the story, but I think they could have more crusade stuff in there. After the warning at the beginning of the game I had certain expectation is all. :P
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 18, 2007, 02:32:27 PM
If you want more crusade stuff in an artistic medium that can actually accomodate serious consideration of the era of the crusades watch or re-watch Kingdom of Heaven Dir Cut and GTFO
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: TVC15 on November 18, 2007, 02:35:49 PM
It's not needed, but it's somethign I would have liked

It's a nitpick though. It doesn't ruin the game at all and I still like the story, but I think they could have more crusade stuff in there. After the warning at the beginning of the game I had certain expectation is all. :P

It's a videogame, dude.  The reason they don't teach much about this shit in public (or even private) schools is because the shit that went down then is still rather tender and relevant today.  Out of sight, out of mind, and I'm sure we don't want humanity's impending apocalypse kicked off by a pretty decent videogame.
Title: Re: Favorite Assassin's Creed Moments
Post by: Mupepe on November 18, 2007, 07:28:34 PM
pretty much.  i'm glad the game stayed light.  it really helps get you into the atmosphere.  Such an immersive game.  this is the first open ended game where i felt compelled to do missions instead of kill civilians and cause havoc.

:bow :bow :bow

i really think it's my GOTY